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Re: thats it guys, julian assange is arrested
« Reply #60 on: December 13, 2010, 03:22:43 PM »
I guess no-one understands the importance of the principle at sake here. Regardless if Wikileaks' motives are questionable, the fact remains that if no-one stood up for wikileaks at all, who's next on the chopping block? Because believe me, Wikileaks won't be the only site targeted and deemed as some sort of "threat". A dangerous precedent will be granted if wikileaks is taken offline, as it would mean the U.S Government (or more specifically, the Department of Homeland Security) can pressure, persuade, intimidate and/or eliminate all connections that entities have to any website they deem as a threat to national security, or even economic security. With vague wording of legislation if passed to allow this practice on a full scale, such new policy could be literally used against ANY website for almost ANY reason. This point needs to be realised and spread.

So even if all this is a set-up for net censorship, well don't bicker about it, spread the word that if Wikileaks can be silenced, anyone is a potential target eventually.

As you can tell, I'm getting really pissed off at the Alternative Media, because they exclaim "OMG he's a CIA plant out to help impose net censorship", instead of point the key fact out that anyone could eventually become a target if their comments are considered a threat under new legislation. They should focus on stopping that from happening instead of bitching about wikileaks' motives. It's the principle that truly counts, not just the content.

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Re: thats it guys, julian assange is arrested
« Reply #61 on: December 14, 2010, 09:31:20 AM »
Where the fuck is rage? He'd be interested in all this shit going down.

Also do your part in the coming war of the internets, don't let wikileaks die!

I'm fighting with the force only I can muster, but I don't think we can win dude. I'd say violence is called for, but its important to maintain that we are not the bad guys. If we start throwing punches, the mass media will fill our asses with blood and cum.
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I will never stop...
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Re: thats it guys, julian assange is arrested
« Reply #62 on: December 14, 2010, 09:36:16 AM »
Where the fuck is rage? He'd be interested in all this shit going down.

Also do your part in the coming war of the internets, don't let wikileaks die!

I'm fighting with the force only I can muster, but I don't think we can win dude. I'd say violence is called for, but its important to maintain that we are not the bad guys. If we start throwing punches, the mass media will fill our asses with blood and cum.

ouch

but yes, i get constant "flashbacks" to ww2, to fascism and gvt-absolute-power, fuck the weak, fuck brown people, fuck poor countries, hail the strong, hail military prowess, hail greed and hail satan
like i told kaileen yesterday, i find a slight comfort in the fact that im not muslim...
when "the second holocaust" begins, ill be safe at home watching the poor bastards get gassed on tv. maybe i wont. norway doesnt have a pay-per-view culture :/

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Re: thats it guys, julian assange is arrested
« Reply #63 on: December 14, 2010, 09:41:32 AM »
I just can't seem to make the old crew understand that this REALLY IS the final boss we're fucking with here. If we can beat this thing, we'll be on the road to living the dream. For REAL. People have become such pussies, and apathetic bastards. They just roll over and turn the other asscheek while our slave masters rape our asses again and again, then make us feel guilty for it by blaming the economy and all the worlds problems on us.

I mean maybe it is true that its the common man's fault for letting these assholes get such a foothold, but FUCK man theres only one solution to that right? We start fighting back for a change!
"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

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Re: thats it guys, julian assange is arrested
« Reply #64 on: December 14, 2010, 09:52:16 AM »
I just can't seem to make the old crew understand that this REALLY IS the final boss we're fucking with here. If we can beat this thing, we'll be on the road to living the dream. For REAL. People have become such pussies, and apathetic bastards. They just roll over and turn the other asscheek while our slave masters rape our asses again and again, then make us feel guilty for it by blaming the economy and all the worlds problems on us.

I mean maybe it is true that its the common man's fault for letting these assholes get such a foothold, but FUCK man theres only one solution to that right? We start fighting back for a change!

its not just about internet freedom

its about what our gvt's are doing to other people, behind our backs
its also about the desensitation of the dumb masses - about what we're doing to other people

again, it brings me right back to nazi germany
the majority of germans were totally desensitized to COPS shooting jews between the eyes for LULZ, even where there wasnt blatant murder, they'd push people over, kick them around, and all this prior to the holocaust (which normal germans were unaware of, just like we're unaware of a lot of stuff)

people smirk it off, when they hear about atrocities in war, just like germans smirked it off when some jew or gypsi got bullied by cops

who could the jew call, when COPS tormented them?


who could the georgians in abkhazia call, when russian peacekeepers lined them up, and executed them in sport stadiums?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_in_Abkhazia <---not even secret information, but simply ignored by mass media.

we're allowing such enormous hopelessness, and such enormous horror and pain. and we're talking about terrorism.
we're allowing political opponents in kazakhstan to be boiled by dictators we've imposed, while talking about democracy.

this isnt new either, remember latinamerica, and the whole LIST of CIA imposed dictators, while back home we were all busy giggling at the latest blockbuster disney cartoon.

we've all been trained at not caring.
back in ww2, there wasnt ONLY apathy, there was also people who famously hid jews in their homes
there were volunteers, who travelled to finland, or spain, or poland, to fight for the unfortunate
there was a much greater interest in preserving the dignity of _others_

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Re: thats it guys, julian assange is arrested
« Reply #65 on: December 14, 2010, 09:58:03 AM »
I just can't seem to make the old crew understand that this REALLY IS the final boss we're fucking with here. If we can beat this thing, we'll be on the road to living the dream. For REAL. People have become such pussies, and apathetic bastards. They just roll over and turn the other asscheek while our slave masters rape our asses again and again, then make us feel guilty for it by blaming the economy and all the worlds problems on us.

I mean maybe it is true that its the common man's fault for letting these assholes get such a foothold, but FUCK man theres only one solution to that right? We start fighting back for a change!

its not just about internet freedom

its about what our gvt's are doing to other people, behind our backs
its also about the desensitation of the dumb masses - about what we're doing to other people

again, it brings me right back to nazi germany
the majority of germans were totally desensitized to COPS shooting jews between the eyes for LULZ, even where there wasnt blatant murder, they'd push people over, kick them around, and all this prior to the holocaust (which normal germans were unaware of, just like we're unaware of a lot of stuff)

people smirk it off, when they hear about atrocities in war, just like germans smirked it off when some jew or gypsi got bullied by cops

who could the jew call, when COPS tormented them?


who could the georgians in abkhazia call, when russian peacekeepers lined them up, and executed them in sport stadiums?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_in_Abkhazia <---not even secret information, but simply ignored by mass media.

we're allowing such enormous hopelessness, and such enormous horror and pain. and we're talking about terrorism.
we're allowing political opponents in kazakhstan to be boiled by dictators we've imposed, while talking about democracy.

this isnt new either, remember latinamerica, and the whole LIST of CIA imposed dictators, while back home we were all busy giggling at the latest blockbuster disney cartoon.

we've all been trained at not caring.
back in ww2, there wasnt ONLY apathy, there was also people who famously hid jews in their homes
there were volunteers, who travelled to finland, or spain, or poland, to fight for the unfortunate
there was a much greater interest in preserving the dignity of _others_


Trust me man. I am fully aware how great an opening this is. I'll say it again. This is for every tomorrow.
"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: thats it guys, julian assange is arrested
« Reply #66 on: December 14, 2010, 10:00:39 AM »
I just can't seem to make the old crew understand that this REALLY IS the final boss we're fucking with here. If we can beat this thing, we'll be on the road to living the dream. For REAL. People have become such pussies, and apathetic bastards. They just roll over and turn the other asscheek while our slave masters rape our asses again and again, then make us feel guilty for it by blaming the economy and all the worlds problems on us.

I mean maybe it is true that its the common man's fault for letting these assholes get such a foothold, but FUCK man theres only one solution to that right? We start fighting back for a change!

its not just about internet freedom

its about what our gvt's are doing to other people, behind our backs
its also about the desensitation of the dumb masses - about what we're doing to other people

again, it brings me right back to nazi germany
the majority of germans were totally desensitized to COPS shooting jews between the eyes for LULZ, even where there wasnt blatant murder, they'd push people over, kick them around, and all this prior to the holocaust (which normal germans were unaware of, just like we're unaware of a lot of stuff)

people smirk it off, when they hear about atrocities in war, just like germans smirked it off when some jew or gypsi got bullied by cops

who could the jew call, when COPS tormented them?


who could the georgians in abkhazia call, when russian peacekeepers lined them up, and executed them in sport stadiums?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Georgians_in_Abkhazia <---not even secret information, but simply ignored by mass media.

we're allowing such enormous hopelessness, and such enormous horror and pain. and we're talking about terrorism.
we're allowing political opponents in kazakhstan to be boiled by dictators we've imposed, while talking about democracy.

this isnt new either, remember latinamerica, and the whole LIST of CIA imposed dictators, while back home we were all busy giggling at the latest blockbuster disney cartoon.

we've all been trained at not caring.
back in ww2, there wasnt ONLY apathy, there was also people who famously hid jews in their homes
there were volunteers, who travelled to finland, or spain, or poland, to fight for the unfortunate
there was a much greater interest in preserving the dignity of _others_


Trust me man. I am fully aware how great an opening this is. I'll say it again. This is for every tomorrow.

also compare the notion of _racism_ of today, and 15 years ago.

i am appalled by the accepted racism around me today, that has spurred on the past few years only.
just years ago any norwegian would emphasize that you cant judge a whole culture, you gotta get to know an individual, all humans have the same basic principles

today its all "fuck the muslims" all of them? "yes all of them. nuke the bastards." NUKE!? "yes nuke"
its amazing...

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Re: thats it guys, julian assange is arrested
« Reply #67 on: December 14, 2010, 10:03:29 AM »
These attitudes are spurred on by the people that can profit from it. They have the means and the motive to steer culture and the way people think so that they can live cushy, comfortable lives. War for profit, witch hunts, blah blah. Its all been done again and again.

In the past few days, I have seen just how many people also know this, and it has encouraged me slightly. If only we can spread these truths, it should be enough. Nobody likes being used.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2010, 10:24:43 AM by RageBeoulve »
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They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

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Re: thats it guys, julian assange is arrested
« Reply #68 on: December 14, 2010, 08:17:42 PM »
I am a silly girly wolf.


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You're good with words, you should join in with this reading, summarizing, and republishing deal.
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.