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One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« on: November 16, 2010, 09:24:26 AM »
One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible

The road to Mars is a one-way street, says an ASU professor.

In a paper published in the latest edition of the Journal of Cosmology, professor Paul Davies along with Washington State University professor Dirk Schulze-Makuch advocated for a manned, one-way mission to colonize the red planet.

Davies is the director of ASU’s Beyond Center for Fundamental Concepts in Science. For the paper, he collaborated with Schulze-Makuch primarily through e-mail over the past six months.

It is the first scientific paper published on the topic, although Davies wrote an article about it for The New York Times in 2005.

“It has long been a dream of humanity to go to Mars,” Davies said.

While a manned mission to Mars is technologically feasible, it would be astronomically expensive, Davies said.

However, Schulze-Makuch said most of the expense associated with a trip to Mars comes from the effort to bring the astronauts safely home, which means a one-way trip would be significantly less costly.

“It would reduce the cost by 80 percent,” Schulze-Makuch said. He added that the cost would still be approximately $50 billion.

While that would still be very expensive, Davies said, the money could be gathered over a number of years from various sources, possibly including private donors.

The proposed trip would send two to four astronauts to the red planet where they would establish a small colony, Davies said. He added that supplies, such as a nuclear reactor, food, solar panels and instruments, would be sent to Mars prior to their arrival.

After landing, the astronauts would become largely self sufficient without many additional supplies being sent because of cost concerns, Davies said.

The astronauts would be supplied with the means to gather water from deposits beneath Mars’ surface and purify it for drinking, Schulze-Makuch said. He added that the colonists would also be able to gather oxygen from the water, since water is composed of hydrogen and oxygen gas.

Astronauts would volunteer for the mission with the knowledge that they might never return to Earth, and that their life expectancy on Mars might only be 10 years, due to the effects of space radiation and the general rigors of life on another planet, Davies said.

“They would not be abandoned,” Schulze-Makuch said. He added that the colonizers would be in constant contact with Earth through radio transmissions.

Mars was chosen for colonization over the moon because it has more Earth-like qualities than the moon — temperatures on Mars reach as high as 68 degrees Fahrenheit. Mars also has more abundant natural resources, Schulze-Makuch said.

The project would look for astronauts advanced in age, possibly near 60, since their change in life expectancy would not be as drastic, Davies said. They would still be required to be in excellent shape to participate.

Even with the knowledge that they might never return, Davies believes there would be no shortage of volunteers.

“There are lots of people who take crazy risks on Earth,” Davies said. He added that he believes the same spirit that drives people to go river rafting, sky diving and rock climbing would also drive them to explore the red planet.

“They would be the founders of a new planet,” he said. “Think of the adventure.”

Davies said he’s received much interest in the project from people of all ages.

Kelsey Young, a second-year doctorate student studying planetary field geology, is wary of the psychological effects of the proposed journey. She spent one week living confined in a space rover with just one other person through NASA’s Desert Research and Technology Studies program.

Teams of two participate in the simulation program and drive around the Arizona desert, living in space exploration vehicles for a week to two weeks at a time, Young said.

“Will the astronauts be effective commanders and pilots?” she said. “No one knows for sure.”

Despite her concerns, Young said she would consider making the trek herself, citing humankind’s natural spirit of exploration.

“If they offered me the chance, I would probably take it,” she said.

Sending additional astronauts to Mars after a colony has been established is also a possibility, Davies said.

At this stage, the proposal is just that: a plan for a possible trip to Mars.

“At the end of the day, it’s about where the money is,” Davies said. “But a two-way trip will never happen.”

Earth is vulnerable, Schulze-Makuch said, and if there were a catastrophic event, having a Mars colony could be useful far in the future.

“If we want to survive long- term, we have to expand to other places, and Mars is a logical stepping stone,” Schulze-Makuch said. “We’re getting one step closer to Star Trek.”

Reach the reporter at alex.ferri@asu.edu

http://www.statepress.com/2010/10/28/one...professor/


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Re: One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 09:25:06 AM »
Should they send Aspies?  I would go.



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Re: One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 09:31:09 AM »
I'M READY. ADVENTURE? YOU BET YOUR GODDAMN ASS I'D GO. :jedi: :vader: :hotrodder: :party:
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Re: One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 09:51:57 AM »
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Re: One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 09:55:38 AM »
I even used to be a soldier and am in good shape. Only think is, I got about 30 years to go to make the age they're aiming for.

Screw it. They should just send me anyway. I hate -this- planet.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 10:14:09 AM »
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Re: One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 10:16:36 AM »
To hell with the internet if I get to be one of the first on mars! Are you nuts?
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Re: One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 10:23:12 AM »
To hell with the internet if I get to be one of the first on mars! Are you nuts?

You can go, you'll love it. I'm happy here.  :laugh:
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Re: One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 01:12:18 PM »
I even used to be a soldier and am in good shape. Only think is, I got about 30 years to go to make the age they're aiming for.

Screw it. They should just send me anyway. I hate -this- planet.

I think you'd be great. You have my full support. I totally think you should be given a one way ticket to Mars :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

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Re: One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 01:23:14 PM »
I don't think they would do it.  Sure it sounds good and the people would go knowing there was no way back but things change, people change and as much as they agree to it at the start I am sure they would have some misgivings along the way then what? They made the comparison in the article i read to the settling of the New World well it was first explored by people who did go back and people were already here so it was possible to live off the land and that was  a given.  On Mars there are no givens and everything must work correctly or they die.  I can just see it now people campaigning to rescue them and spending three times as much to do it than it would have cost to make a return vehicle because one of them was sick and would die without a hospital.  It's just a bad move to strand people somewhere no matter what they agree tp
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Re: One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2010, 03:16:06 PM »
I can think of several people I'd like to leave stranded on Mars.
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Re: One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2010, 04:47:51 PM »
Being an official martian sounds good.

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Your point is most compelling.

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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2010, 04:52:07 PM »
Being an official martian sounds good.

I'm not going anywhere without internet!  :M
Your point is most compelling.

Thank you! Priorities, I always say!  :green:
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2010, 08:26:03 PM »
I would go! I partially applied to the astronaut program back when I was finishing up graduate school. Wanted to go to Mars and talked about it with a former shuttle astronaut who had become a professor at UVa when I was there. My research was on the atmospheric sputtering of the Marian atmosphere and why it lost all of of its oxygen and Earth did not. Resulted in a paper that got published that I have posted a link to on here in the past. My Advisor was involved in missions to Mars and the Cassini mission. We were funded by NASA, which is where I have always wanted to work.
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Re: One-way ticket makes Mars mission possible
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2010, 09:08:09 AM »
I don't think most of you guys understand how awesome this is. You would become a legend, AND you'd get to go on the adventure of a lifetime. Hell more than a lifetime. Theres only one chance to go on this mission, and its the first of its kind.  :o
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