All-New Which I2 Member Do You Want To Meet IRL thread

[Phoenix]

Nope. You forgot cats.

Cat's use eye contact differently though and communicate more with the rest of the of their body language vs their eyes.

[odeon]

Um, dislike?

Her name is Josie, which I think is a cool name. Nice looking mix of a dog, too.

I'm betting it's more about her being insecure and suspicious towards anyone outside her family.

[Phoenix]

Um, dislike?

Her name is Josie, which I think is a cool name. Nice looking mix of a dog, too.

I'm betting it's more about her being insecure and suspicious towards anyone outside her family.

This. It's her insecurity and not you as a person. My dogs are very secure and open in a multitude of environments and there's only two people they've met so far that don't like, and they turned out being right about both of them

[renaeden]

Um, dislike?

Her name is Josie, which I think is a cool name. Nice looking mix of a dog, too.

I'm betting it's more about her being insecure and suspicious towards anyone outside her family.

This. It's her insecurity and not you as a person. My dogs are very secure and open in a multitude of environments and there's only two people they've met so far that don't like, and they turned out being right about both of them

Hmm, I think she was abused as well, before coming to my friend's family. I'm not part of the pack and so treated with suspicion. I'm harmless though, and I'll never hurt or provoke her so she'll just have to deal.

[odeon]

Um, dislike?

Her name is Josie, which I think is a cool name. Nice looking mix of a dog, too.

I'm betting it's more about her being insecure and suspicious towards anyone outside her family.

This. It's her insecurity and not you as a person. My dogs are very secure and open in a multitude of environments and there's only two people they've met so far that don't like, and they turned out being right about both of them

Hmm, I think she was abused as well, before coming to my friend's family. I'm not part of the pack and so treated with suspicion. I'm harmless though, and I'll never hurt or provoke her so she'll just have to deal.

Abuse would enhance the insecurity, of course.

My dog is very suspicious of outsiders by her very nature. It's a well-known characteristic of the breed. I'm not exactly sure why this is, but it means we constantly have to train her to cope.

And this particular individual feels more than a little autistic. She came to the right place.

["couldbecousin"]

Um, dislike?

Her name is Josie, which I think is a cool name. Nice looking mix of a dog, too.

I'm betting it's more about her being insecure and suspicious towards anyone outside her family.

This. It's her insecurity and not you as a person. My dogs are very secure and open in a multitude of environments and there's only two people they've met so far that don't like, and they turned out being right about both of them

Hmm, I think she was abused as well, before coming to my friend's family. I'm not part of the pack and so treated with suspicion. I'm harmless though, and I'll never hurt or provoke her so she'll just have to deal.

Abuse would enhance the insecurity, of course.

My dog is very suspicious of outsiders by her very nature. It's a well-known characteristic of the breed. I'm not exactly sure why this is, but it means we constantly have to train her to cope.

And this particular individual feels more than a little autistic. She came to the right place.

  That is so darn cute.  She's a lucky girl to have people who understand her.

[DirtDawg]

I am very saddened that you feel this way.
I think if you get a puppy, you will grow some and you will have a best friend for life. Since you are a little bit more intelligent than a dog, it falls to you to make sure that both your needs are met.
Once you get to know a dog well, you will begin to know how deeply ingrained a dog's pack instinct is and witnessing pack behavior first hand you may come to know that you are not really a master, but a leader of their pack. They do worship the leaders of their packs, even lick their leaders' junk and assholes, but only so long as that leader continues to do everything the other members of the pack need.

Dogs ARE faithful. You have to kind of fuck up to lose a dog's faith.  The same goes for any leader of a dog pack.

Stop trying to make them humans and projecting your human horrors upon them. They are dogs. They are fine living as a part of a pack.

Don't you see that it doesn't matter? It's not the effect on the dog, but rather the improper
relationship for the human?

After thinking a bit more about your previous post, I do get your point a little better. I can not find a way to agree fully, except in some extreme cases, like possibly "coming under the spell" of a loving dog could contribute to complicating day by day management of some of the difficulties inherent to narcissism. 
I feel that what you fear might be true in only some of the more troubled individuals, though.

I still wonder if a great dog might offer a small trickle stream to harmlessly dump some of those narcissistic tendencies with very little recourse to consistent management and no harm to the dog.

I feel that most people can handle being within the "love dome"  of a dog without any ill effects.
Narcissism would be the exception.

Sorry, pal. I may not have looked at your post carefully enough to respond to your meaning, as I already have demonstrated a tendency to do many times on this board.
I tend to want to help and sometimes, even without knowing the whole story.

[Calandale]

After thinking a bit more about your previous post, I do get your point a little better. I can not find a way to agree fully, except in some extreme cases, like possibly "coming under the spell" of a loving dog could contribute to complicating day by day management of some of the difficulties inherent to narcissism. 
I feel that what you fear might be true in only some of the more troubled individuals, though.

I'm not worried about the edge cases here; the psychos. I'm worried about the normal folk. But, obviously,
we've long had dogs as pets (not just working dogs), and it's baked into what we are. More a symptom
of something very disturbing in humanity to me. And one which, when faced with that love, is so easy
to ignore.

I feel that most people can handle being within the "love dome"  of a dog without any ill effects.
Narcissism would be the exception.

I've been there too. And I don't think it wrought any terrible changes on me.
But...it seems wrong. I can't even really put my finger on it. Like, a need that
just shouldn't be there. Not parenthood; not a meeting of equals; not a tool;
almost a toy, whose emotions are dependent on you.

[Phoenix]

After thinking a bit more about your previous post, I do get your point a little better. I can not find a way to agree fully, except in some extreme cases, like possibly "coming under the spell" of a loving dog could contribute to complicating day by day management of some of the difficulties inherent to narcissism. 
I feel that what you fear might be true in only some of the more troubled individuals, though.

I'm not worried about the edge cases here; the psychos. I'm worried about the normal folk. But, obviously,
we've long had dogs as pets (not just working dogs), and it's baked into what we are. More a symptom
of something very disturbing in humanity to me. And one which, when faced with that love, is so easy
to ignore.

I feel that most people can handle being within the "love dome"  of a dog without any ill effects.
Narcissism would be the exception.

I've been there too. And I don't think it wrought any terrible changes on me.
But...it seems wrong. I can't even really put my finger on it. Like, a need that
just shouldn't be there. Not parenthood; not a meeting of equals; not a tool;
almost a toy, whose emotions are dependent on you.

God the psych side of me is finding this super interesting and makes me want to sit down and have a drink with Cal and discuss further. Go figure.

[Al Swearegen]

I don't do the pet thing. No issue with those that do.

[Queen Victoria]

Although I enjoy the photos members post, I don't really have a strong desire to meet anyone in real life.  I'll just continue to think of the gentlemen as looking like Chris Hemsworth and the ladies as Gael Gaudot.

[odeon]

Chris Hemsworth? OMG, we might have been twins!

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

I was in Byron Bay a few months ago. Nobody asked if they could get their photo taken with me. So it's a fairly safe bet that I don't look like Chris Hemsworth.

The only celeb I've been told I look like is John Cleese.

["couldbecousin"]

  I don't look like anyone famous.  I look like a benevolent weirdo.  On bad days, I look like a creep.

[Calandale]

God the psych side of me is finding this super interesting and makes me want to sit down and have a drink with Cal and discuss further. Go figure.

I've largely given up speaking about such things in person. The thinking doesn't work so well.