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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2010, 06:29:32 PM »
Uhm, let's see now: who attacked Israel in 1948 and 1973 and was just about to attack them in 1967, hadn't it been for the Israelis striking first?
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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2010, 06:30:02 PM »
Paganism is hilarious though.   I guess it is fucking stupid if they are really serious about it.   Doing the pagan thing as a way to fuck with Christians on occasion is pretty funny to me.   Especially when you point out how Christianity was influenced by pagan beliefs, and how much it strays from Judaism.

The world is holding Israel back actually.   As Israel has gotten its weapons from the rest of the world's powers (French nuclear technology, US and other nations as far as military gear goes).  The Israeli army has a lot more at their disposal and they could easily be doing a lot more damage than they are currently.   If nobody really cared, the Israelis could obliterate most of the Arab nations pretty quickly with the armaments that they have at their disposal.
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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2010, 07:30:30 PM »
Paganism is hilarious though.   I guess it is fucking stupid if they are really serious about it.   Doing the pagan thing as a way to fuck with Christians on occasion is pretty funny to me.   Especially when you point out how Christianity was influenced by pagan beliefs, and how much it strays from Judaism.

The world is holding Israel back actually.   As Israel has gotten its weapons from the rest of the world's powers (French nuclear technology, US and other nations as far as military gear goes).  The Israeli army has a lot more at their disposal and they could easily be doing a lot more damage than they are currently.   If nobody really cared, the Israelis could obliterate most of the Arab nations pretty quickly with the armaments that they have at their disposal.

i dont think so. they would do a lot of damage allright, but on their own they wouldnt last long enough to win it. sure they could even launch nukes, but so what? theyll get swarmed with a hundred million radiated suicide bombers ::)
its too easy to brag up technology, like when discovery channel masturbates on and on about how infinitely indestructible the abrams tank is, while at the same time abrams tanks were being destroyed by iraqi ragtag warriors. not many of course.. but no army is invincible on technology allone. afghanistan is another testiment to that.

during the recent gaza war it was pretty obvious that israel was testing its allies, and was getting the (lack of) reaction they obviously hoped for, blatantly using banned tactics, and being openly nonchalant about civilian casualties. and thats back to what pisses me off so much... at least bush tried to play dumb w the whole iraq afghanistan thing, but israel acts like some evil villain, and seem proud of it

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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2010, 08:08:16 PM »
God damn it, every time I see this thread. I keep thinking it says "here's the thing about Isabel."  :wanker:


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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2010, 08:16:06 PM »
Paganism is hilarious though.   I guess it is fucking stupid if they are really serious about it.   Doing the pagan thing as a way to fuck with Christians on occasion is pretty funny to me.   Especially when you point out how Christianity was influenced by pagan beliefs, and how much it strays from Judaism.

The world is holding Israel back actually.   As Israel has gotten its weapons from the rest of the world's powers (French nuclear technology, US and other nations as far as military gear goes).  The Israeli army has a lot more at their disposal and they could easily be doing a lot more damage than they are currently.   If nobody really cared, the Israelis could obliterate most of the Arab nations pretty quickly with the armaments that they have at their disposal.

i dont think so. they would do a lot of damage allright, but on their own they wouldnt last long enough to win it. sure they could even launch nukes, but so what? theyll get swarmed with a hundred million radiated suicide bombers ::)
its too easy to brag up technology, like when discovery channel masturbates on and on about how infinitely indestructible the abrams tank is, while at the same time abrams tanks were being destroyed by iraqi ragtag warriors. not many of course.. but no army is invincible on technology allone. afghanistan is another testiment to that.

during the recent gaza war it was pretty obvious that israel was testing its allies, and was getting the (lack of) reaction they obviously hoped for, blatantly using banned tactics, and being openly nonchalant about civilian casualties. and thats back to what pisses me off so much... at least bush tried to play dumb w the whole iraq afghanistan thing, but israel acts like some evil villain, and seem proud of it
The only reason why the abrams is being blown up is that it is being used in the wrong manner to begin with.  Patrolling police style warfare is stupid.   The US could butcher the entire Middle East by just using the Navy.   Kill every living thing in that area, without even using nukes.

Israel using nukes would ruin the world's ecosystem, but they would definitely kill all of the Arabs if they did.

Again, the reason why the US is losing and Russia ultimately lost in Afghanistan is because of the military strategy used.    The Geneva convention and its rules over warfare are an aid to anyone that wants to take part in guerrilla style warfare, and it is even more beneficial to those defending Afghanistan.    The countries that even try to wage war and follow some sort of rules, have already lost.
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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2010, 02:27:58 AM »
Paganism is hilarious though.   I guess it is fucking stupid if they are really serious about it.   Doing the pagan thing as a way to fuck with Christians on occasion is pretty funny to me.   Especially when you point out how Christianity was influenced by pagan beliefs, and how much it strays from Judaism.

The world is holding Israel back actually.   As Israel has gotten its weapons from the rest of the world's powers (French nuclear technology, US and other nations as far as military gear goes).  The Israeli army has a lot more at their disposal and they could easily be doing a lot more damage than they are currently.   If nobody really cared, the Israelis could obliterate most of the Arab nations pretty quickly with the armaments that they have at their disposal.

i dont think so. they would do a lot of damage allright, but on their own they wouldnt last long enough to win it. sure they could even launch nukes, but so what? theyll get swarmed with a hundred million radiated suicide bombers ::)
its too easy to brag up technology, like when discovery channel masturbates on and on about how infinitely indestructible the abrams tank is, while at the same time abrams tanks were being destroyed by iraqi ragtag warriors. not many of course.. but no army is invincible on technology allone. afghanistan is another testiment to that.

during the recent gaza war it was pretty obvious that israel was testing its allies, and was getting the (lack of) reaction they obviously hoped for, blatantly using banned tactics, and being openly nonchalant about civilian casualties. and thats back to what pisses me off so much... at least bush tried to play dumb w the whole iraq afghanistan thing, but israel acts like some evil villain, and seem proud of it
The only reason why the abrams is being blown up is that it is being used in the wrong manner to begin with.  Patrolling police style warfare is stupid.   The US could butcher the entire Middle East by just using the Navy.   Kill every living thing in that area, without even using nukes.

Israel using nukes would ruin the world's ecosystem, but they would definitely kill all of the Arabs if they did.

Again, the reason why the US is losing and Russia ultimately lost in Afghanistan is because of the military strategy used.    The Geneva convention and its rules over warfare are an aid to anyone that wants to take part in guerrilla style warfare, and it is even more beneficial to those defending Afghanistan.    The countries that even try to wage war and follow some sort of rules, have already lost.

i still think you give technology too much credit, and too little to human surviveability. look at the german effort against ussr, or russian against finnish.
attempting to completely erradicate another culture or country isnt as easy as you make it seem. sure you can destroy another country, down to "almost nothing", hell even bombing someone "back to the stone age" will be devastating, but humans lived through the stone age fine :]

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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2010, 03:34:57 AM »
I'm moving to Israel in two months.
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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2010, 03:37:14 AM »
You travel a lot.  Weren't you in Spain recently?  I'm jealous :P

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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2010, 05:47:17 AM »
I'm moving to Israel in two months.

stay no closer than 10 kilometres from the gaza border ;]

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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2010, 09:50:22 AM »
I'm moving to Israel in two months.

What will you be doing there?

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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2010, 10:05:00 AM »
Paganism is hilarious though.   I guess it is fucking stupid if they are really serious about it.   Doing the pagan thing as a way to fuck with Christians on occasion is pretty funny to me.   Especially when you point out how Christianity was influenced by pagan beliefs, and how much it strays from Judaism.

The world is holding Israel back actually.   As Israel has gotten its weapons from the rest of the world's powers (French nuclear technology, US and other nations as far as military gear goes).  The Israeli army has a lot more at their disposal and they could easily be doing a lot more damage than they are currently.   If nobody really cared, the Israelis could obliterate most of the Arab nations pretty quickly with the armaments that they have at their disposal.

i dont think so. they would do a lot of damage allright, but on their own they wouldnt last long enough to win it. sure they could even launch nukes, but so what? theyll get swarmed with a hundred million radiated suicide bombers ::)
its too easy to brag up technology, like when discovery channel masturbates on and on about how infinitely indestructible the abrams tank is, while at the same time abrams tanks were being destroyed by iraqi ragtag warriors. not many of course.. but no army is invincible on technology allone. afghanistan is another testiment to that.

during the recent gaza war it was pretty obvious that israel was testing its allies, and was getting the (lack of) reaction they obviously hoped for, blatantly using banned tactics, and being openly nonchalant about civilian casualties. and thats back to what pisses me off so much... at least bush tried to play dumb w the whole iraq afghanistan thing, but israel acts like some evil villain, and seem proud of it
The only reason why the abrams is being blown up is that it is being used in the wrong manner to begin with.  Patrolling police style warfare is stupid.   The US could butcher the entire Middle East by just using the Navy.   Kill every living thing in that area, without even using nukes.

Israel using nukes would ruin the world's ecosystem, but they would definitely kill all of the Arabs if they did.

Again, the reason why the US is losing and Russia ultimately lost in Afghanistan is because of the military strategy used.    The Geneva convention and its rules over warfare are an aid to anyone that wants to take part in guerrilla style warfare, and it is even more beneficial to those defending Afghanistan.    The countries that even try to wage war and follow some sort of rules, have already lost.

i still think you give technology too much credit, and too little to human surviveability. look at the german effort against ussr, or russian against finnish.
attempting to completely erradicate another culture or country isnt as easy as you make it seem. sure you can destroy another country, down to "almost nothing", hell even bombing someone "back to the stone age" will be devastating, but humans lived through the stone age fine :]
Same reasons why the Brits lost to the Americans in the Revolutionary war as well.   Using the wrong tactics against guerrilla warfare is fail.   Eradicating large numbers of people is a lot easier than you think, just nobody really has the balls to actually do it.
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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2010, 01:14:04 PM »
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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2010, 04:22:29 PM »
I'm immigrating there; joining the army, going to school, hopefully not leaving.
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Re: Heres the thing about Israel
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2010, 05:09:10 PM »
I'm immigrating there; joining the army, going to school, hopefully not leaving.
Would you kick off a Palestinian to go there?