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 "'---The stabilization of the internal political situation has now allowed a reconsideration of the existing firearms legislation in the direction towards a liberalization, which will benefit the German arms industry without danger to the upholding of public safety. The condition for every relaxation of the applicable weapons law must be that the police authorities might still be in a position to mercilessly prevent elements unreliable and especially enemies of the state from acquiring and keeping weapons. (..)
If the possession of firearms by such persons will be prevented, it is reasonable and appropriate that the citizens faithful to the state should benefit a liberalization of the restrictions that have hitherto existed, as this will not only serve the general public but also the arms industry and its workers and will put them in a better economical situation.'"
'The Reich Weapon Law above all made it easier to purchase guns. A license for purchase was only mandatory for handguns, while long guns could in principle be purchased free.'

http://www.polizei-nrw.de/moenchengladbach/Waffenrecht/article/Historie_des_Waffenrechts.html

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Heh but jews can have them now :zoinks:
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Yes, but the thing is that the Nazis trusted the majority of the citizens more than the ones in charge trust the majority today. Says something of how "democratic" Europe is...

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Yes, but the thing is that the Nazis trusted the majority of the citizens more than the ones in charge trust the majority today. Says something of how "democratic" Europe is...

Er, no. The basic *philosophy* of the Nazi party was just the opposite--the very idea was to have one leader beyond reproach, beyond question from anyone and certainly the common man, and so the Reich's administrative function was left to the layer below the leader, which usually meant the whims most likely to result in a maximum short-term gain for the decision-maker. The Nazis didn't trust the population at all. Freedom is not measured in guns, never was.
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Guns wouldn't be banned or restricted if the powers-that-be didn't fear them. 100 times more Swedes die from tobacco than from guns, yet anyone who is 18 can buy tobacco without restrictions. Why? Because tobacco is no threat to the powers-that-be.

If our health and security would be their no. 1 objective, they would of course ban things in proportion to what harm they cause, but they don't. They ban or restrict them in proportion to how much tools of power they are.

Freedom isn't measured in guns only, of course.


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Yes, but the thing is that the Nazis trusted the majority of the citizens more than the ones in charge trust the majority today. Says something of how "democratic" Europe is...

Er, no. The basic *philosophy* of the Nazi party was just the opposite--the very idea was to have one leader beyond reproach, beyond question from anyone and certainly the common man, and so the Reich's administrative function was left to the layer below the leader, which usually meant the whims most likely to result in a maximum short-term gain for the decision-maker. The Nazis didn't trust the population at all. Freedom is not measured in guns, never was.
The majority of Germans were very happy with the system. Little different to Putin's Russia really...

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Yes, but the thing is that the Nazis trusted the majority of the citizens more than the ones in charge trust the majority today. Says something of how "democratic" Europe is...

Er, no. The basic *philosophy* of the Nazi party was just the opposite--the very idea was to have one leader beyond reproach, beyond question from anyone and certainly the common man, and so the Reich's administrative function was left to the layer below the leader, which usually meant the whims most likely to result in a maximum short-term gain for the decision-maker. The Nazis didn't trust the population at all. Freedom is not measured in guns, never was.
The majority of Germans were very happy with the system. Little different to Putin's Russia really...

Yup. The Nazis didn't fear the "average German".  :agreed:

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Yes, but the thing is that the Nazis trusted the majority of the citizens more than the ones in charge trust the majority today. Says something of how "democratic" Europe is...

Er, no. The basic *philosophy* of the Nazi party was just the opposite--the very idea was to have one leader beyond reproach, beyond question from anyone and certainly the common man, and so the Reich's administrative function was left to the layer below the leader, which usually meant the whims most likely to result in a maximum short-term gain for the decision-maker. The Nazis didn't trust the population at all. Freedom is not measured in guns, never was.
The majority of Germans were very happy with the system. Little different to Putin's Russia really...

Not with the system. They were happy with their leader. Hitler was clever because he was able to remain above petty national politics and the inevitable blame game. Also, you'd have to remember where they came from. The Weimar Republic was blamed for pretty much everything but the fact is that the (relative) economic upturn that occurred around the time the Nazis came to power would have happened anyway. Hitler never had much to do with it.

Yes, but the thing is that the Nazis trusted the majority of the citizens more than the ones in charge trust the majority today. Says something of how "democratic" Europe is...

Er, no. The basic *philosophy* of the Nazi party was just the opposite--the very idea was to have one leader beyond reproach, beyond question from anyone and certainly the common man, and so the Reich's administrative function was left to the layer below the leader, which usually meant the whims most likely to result in a maximum short-term gain for the decision-maker. The Nazis didn't trust the population at all. Freedom is not measured in guns, never was.
The majority of Germans were very happy with the system. Little different to Putin's Russia really...

Yup. The Nazis didn't fear the "average German".  :agreed:

They made sure they didn't have to. But the average German worried about their thugs.
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Yes, but the thing is that the Nazis trusted the majority of the citizens more than the ones in charge trust the majority today. Says something of how "democratic" Europe is...

Er, no. The basic *philosophy* of the Nazi party was just the opposite--the very idea was to have one leader beyond reproach, beyond question from anyone and certainly the common man, and so the Reich's administrative function was left to the layer below the leader, which usually meant the whims most likely to result in a maximum short-term gain for the decision-maker. The Nazis didn't trust the population at all. Freedom is not measured in guns, never was.
The majority of Germans were very happy with the system. Little different to Putin's Russia really...

Not with the system. They were happy with their leader. Hitler was clever because he was able to remain above petty national politics and the inevitable blame game. Also, you'd have to remember where they came from. The Weimar Republic was blamed for pretty much everything but the fact is that the (relative) economic upturn that occurred around the time the Nazis came to power would have happened anyway. Hitler never had much to do with it.
Hitler basically built that system though. Asides, I think you don't give him as much credit as he deserves economically, he did manage to employ pretty much everyone.

Putin is more effective though...

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In Russia economic system runs YOU! :bint:

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Yes, but the thing is that the Nazis trusted the majority of the citizens more than the ones in charge trust the majority today. Says something of how "democratic" Europe is...

Er, no. The basic *philosophy* of the Nazi party was just the opposite--the very idea was to have one leader beyond reproach, beyond question from anyone and certainly the common man, and so the Reich's administrative function was left to the layer below the leader, which usually meant the whims most likely to result in a maximum short-term gain for the decision-maker. The Nazis didn't trust the population at all. Freedom is not measured in guns, never was.
The majority of Germans were very happy with the system. Little different to Putin's Russia really...

Not with the system. They were happy with their leader. Hitler was clever because he was able to remain above petty national politics and the inevitable blame game. Also, you'd have to remember where they came from. The Weimar Republic was blamed for pretty much everything but the fact is that the (relative) economic upturn that occurred around the time the Nazis came to power would have happened anyway. Hitler never had much to do with it.
Hitler basically built that system though. Asides, I think you don't give him as much credit as he deserves economically, he did manage to employ pretty much everyone.

Putin is more effective though...

That wasn't so much fun when the bombs started raining down on the factories 
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Yes, but the thing is that the Nazis trusted the majority of the citizens more than the ones in charge trust the majority today. Says something of how "democratic" Europe is...

Er, no. The basic *philosophy* of the Nazi party was just the opposite--the very idea was to have one leader beyond reproach, beyond question from anyone and certainly the common man, and so the Reich's administrative function was left to the layer below the leader, which usually meant the whims most likely to result in a maximum short-term gain for the decision-maker. The Nazis didn't trust the population at all. Freedom is not measured in guns, never was.
The majority of Germans were very happy with the system. Little different to Putin's Russia really...

Not with the system. They were happy with their leader. Hitler was clever because he was able to remain above petty national politics and the inevitable blame game. Also, you'd have to remember where they came from. The Weimar Republic was blamed for pretty much everything but the fact is that the (relative) economic upturn that occurred around the time the Nazis came to power would have happened anyway. Hitler never had much to do with it.
Hitler basically built that system though. Asides, I think you don't give him as much credit as he deserves economically, he did manage to employ pretty much everyone.

Putin is more effective though...

That wasn't so much fun when the bombs started raining down on the factories 
Thats kind of why I think Putin is better. He gets Poles to rain down on the airport instead...

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Yes, but the thing is that the Nazis trusted the majority of the citizens more than the ones in charge trust the majority today. Says something of how "democratic" Europe is...

Er, no. The basic *philosophy* of the Nazi party was just the opposite--the very idea was to have one leader beyond reproach, beyond question from anyone and certainly the common man, and so the Reich's administrative function was left to the layer below the leader, which usually meant the whims most likely to result in a maximum short-term gain for the decision-maker. The Nazis didn't trust the population at all. Freedom is not measured in guns, never was.
The majority of Germans were very happy with the system. Little different to Putin's Russia really...

Not with the system. They were happy with their leader. Hitler was clever because he was able to remain above petty national politics and the inevitable blame game. Also, you'd have to remember where they came from. The Weimar Republic was blamed for pretty much everything but the fact is that the (relative) economic upturn that occurred around the time the Nazis came to power would have happened anyway. Hitler never had much to do with it.
Hitler basically built that system though. Asides, I think you don't give him as much credit as he deserves economically, he did manage to employ pretty much everyone.

Putin is more effective though...

That wasn't so much fun when the bombs started raining down on the factories 
Thats kind of why I think Putin is better. He gets Poles to rain down on the airport instead...

I think when it all comes down to it he will be behind that proof of no proof he was KGB and the polish prez was proamerican
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Not sure about that. It looks incredibly suspicious, though.

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It was the first thing I thought about
"Eat it up.  Wear it out.  Make it do or do without." 

'People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.'
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