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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1275 on: November 22, 2012, 11:27:22 PM »
Why were you there for that long?

To buy a 32 inch LCD Hi-def TV for $148.  Black Friday sale.
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1276 on: November 22, 2012, 11:29:24 PM »
That is a cheap tv.

Your Black Friday sale is similar to our Boxing Day sale.
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1277 on: November 22, 2012, 11:31:34 PM »
That is a cheap tv.

Your Black Friday sale is similar to our Boxing Day sale.

I agree that it's cheap.  If it wasn't a brand with a good name (Emerson) I would have passed on it, regardless of the price. 
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1278 on: November 22, 2012, 11:35:33 PM »
I have never heard of that brand name, heh.

I didn't find it but my mum did - a huge redback spider amongst her craft books.
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1279 on: November 23, 2012, 12:41:24 AM »
I have never heard of that brand name, heh.

I didn't find it but my mum did - a huge redback spider amongst her craft books.

  How big is  "huge" ?  I know everything poisonous is bigger in Australia!   :hide:
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1280 on: November 23, 2012, 02:34:25 AM »
Redback spiders aren't really that big, not like huntsman spiders for instance. The one my mum found was big for a redback though.
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1281 on: November 23, 2012, 09:40:17 AM »
Spiders.  :zombiefuck: :zombiefuck:

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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1282 on: November 23, 2012, 09:45:10 AM »
Araneae fortes sunt  :viking:

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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1283 on: November 23, 2012, 05:16:01 PM »
Hey ren...you know, actually I've been looking for people who might be willing to send me spiders, I've kept them as pets before. Last one I had, was a female false widow (Steatoda spp.), who had just laid two egg sacks. One had hatched to produce many, many many baby 'slings.

Then the pigs stormed my house, (no charges were brought, investigation had to be dropped,it was, as one filthy swine actually admitted, out of earshot, that it was a fishing expedition 'to see it they could find me doing anything they didn't like'

When I got back from the pig shop, they were all dead. Every last one of my little ones had been murdered.

Latrodectus spp. (widows) and mouse spiders (Missulena) spp.are the main ozzy ones I'd like, if you might be willing to go spider hunting for me ren. I'll pay a fair price for any of either you might catch for me for the spiders themselves, and also of course,pay for shipping.
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1284 on: November 25, 2012, 11:59:53 PM »
Those two you mention may only be found in eastern Australia, not here in Western Australia. We get (in the house) redbacks and white-tailed spiders which can cause your flesh to rot if you get bitten and are allergic.
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1285 on: November 26, 2012, 12:06:14 PM »
Lampona spp. do NOT cause necrotizing arachnidism!

Its a myth to the best of my knowledge of arachnid venom compositions, which is fairly decent and  up to date. Their bites do not appear to cause the same sort of slow-healing, fleshrotting necrotic ulcerations that Loxosceles spp (violin spiders, recluses) or their deadly  brethren, Sicarius  spp. (which apparently possess a bite that is at least equal to that of a puff adder, if not more so. Shocking, coming from a spider, given the quantity of venom they can deliver; and especially so given that the genus Sicarius, are araneomorph spiders, which lack the massive, well-developed chelicerae and whopping great venom glands possessed by mygalomorph spiders such as the funnelwebs. The venom potency must be extreme. And may well be, in the case of a couple of species within the genus, the worlds deadliest of all spiders. Bites are extremely rare though, given their isolated habitat, but there is no antivenom available. Of the two cases I have read of, involving bites by a Sicarius spp. spider, one victim lost his arm, the other died of massive disseminated intravascular coagulation within hours.

Similar venom to the recluses, containing sphingomyelinase-D, the necrotic toxin found in recluses (recleese? reclusii? recleeses? :autism:), which is only found otherwise in a few of those strains of pathogenic bacteria that rot flesh, such as those responsible for causing necrotizing fasciitis, the aptly-named 'flesh eating disease', for which certain strains of type-A streptococci are responsible, and is so damned virulent, that it can spread inches within hours, and kill in a day. The only treatment for that is highly aggressive antibiotic therapy, combined with similarly very aggressive cutting out of both the diseased area, and a fair margin of healthy tissue around the infection.

Antibiotics aren't going to help with a bite from one of thees spiders though, and they are much larger than a recluse, and can inject far, far, FAR more massive quantities of venom. More to the point, the venom itself can contain, IIRC, several orders of magnitude more sphingomyelinase-D than can even the most venomous of the recluse family (Loxosceles laeta, the chilean recluse, if I remember my arachnid toxicology correctly)


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12914510

This study examined over a hundred confirmed bites by Lampona spp. (the genus to which the white-tailed spiders belong) and found NO evidence of necrotizing effects like recluse bites produce. The venom is however, known to contain proteases, but as far as I am aware, does not contain sphingomyelinase-D. IIRC the main protease components are hyaluronidases. If white-tailed spiders do pack sphingomyelinase-D, then they must not produce and/or deliver very much of it.

Apparently they can produce slow-healing wounds, but they do not become necrotic like recluse spider or viper bites do.
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1286 on: November 26, 2012, 04:53:26 PM »
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1287 on: November 26, 2012, 05:33:35 PM »
Lots of nails in the driveway where I was working :zombiefuck:
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1288 on: November 27, 2012, 12:32:39 AM »
Did you check your tyres?  :zombiefuck:
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Re: What did you find today?
« Reply #1289 on: November 27, 2012, 01:01:48 AM »
No nails in them this time.  A couple months ago I had to have two replaced due to nails, I'm glad I bought the road hazard warranty as the tires were over $200 each and were replaced free
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