Impure autistic communities

[Alex179]

I think autistic people feel more at ease when posting online and so they may appear more "NT" to you. It is in real life that the difficulties with socialising are more obvious.

 

I can pass for NT online I think, and can be jokey and talk to lots of people etc
But offline if I met you guys I'd probably just stand there like a complete retard and wish I'd stayed at home  :lol:

Yeah, the same would probably be the case for me.   I would eventually say something, and it would probably piss someone off.

[Dexter Morgan]

[The_Chosen_One]

Ride 'em cowboy.

[Phlexor]

Since when did you get to decide what is aspie and what isn't?

Why does someone accepting your retarded behaviour make them a real aspie?

Why is it you don't know fuck all about anything?

[The_Chosen_One]

All autistic communities seem to get defiled by hangarounds, fangirls, self diagnosed and people suffering from retardation who were given the diagnosis "AS" by a non specialized psychiatrist.

As far as I know only Gus and TCO have identified themselves as not AS here. One other that I know of described himself as self diagnosed.

This forum is a prime example. I hardly see any autistic people here, WP had a lot more.

Where did you get your Degree in Psychology from and where did you do your specialized training/internship in Autisn Diagnosis?

I want erase you.

Shit in one hand and wish in the other you impotent genetically defective recluse. See which hand fills up first.

I feel intuitively what's real AS.

The brain of a pure AS aristocracy is much more streamlined in how the "brain damage" looks. This I'm sure of and it would show if science had the means to check it out and compare. The brain of a mule however is a cluster of random brain damage. Mules are the irregular AS types, or rather "retarded NT's" while real aspies are not retarded NT's but in fact a different type of brain.

The most typical mule I found in here must be Benjimanbreeg. He shows signs of random, very clustered brain damage more similar to that of drug addicts. His "AS" is probably because of his mother drinking or abusing during pregnancy, or because of some trauma pre-birth or right after. He has a mule type personality and brain which is highly irregular.

Pure AS is strictly inherited and always combined with high intelligence.

The brain of an aspie looks like a car with the steering wheel in the backseat while the brain of a mule looks more like a swiss cheese. However, both have "autistic" traits and symptomes showing.

Just re-reading this piece of drivel makes me want an answer to PPK's question even more - where did you get your psych degree?

If you were to quote that crap to someone of Hans Asperger's or Tony Attwood's ilk, they'd have the fucking strait jackets and orderlies out for you in no time. Comparing people to mules and cars with steering wheels in the back.... what next?

I think your bike has definitely slipped it's chain.

[Untermensch]

All autistic communities seem to get defiled by hangarounds, fangirls, self diagnosed and people suffering from retardation who were given the diagnosis "AS" by a non specialized psychiatrist.

This forum is a prime example. I hardly see any autistic people here, WP had a lot more.

I want to erase you.

Fuck You  

The psychiatrist (who specialized in Autistic spectrum disorders) diagnosed me as having Autistic Disorder as opposed to Aspergers Syndrome. When I spent a short time hospitalized in a teen mental ward, when I was 14. I was fortunate in those terms, that the mental ward was in the same complex as an Autism center.

As you see I am hardly a NT suffering from retardation, although I do wish sometimes I was mentally 'retarded' (but that is another story). Also that remark 'people suffering from retardation' to describe some of the members of Wrongplanet is an insult to people who actually have intellectually disabilities, who are 1,000,000 % better people than you are .

[GalileoAce]

Soleiyu, you have some very interesting opinions... I was wondering if you had any evidence to support them? Or if you have any qualifications in the psychology field? I ask because you seem so knowledgeable about what does not and not qualify as being Autistic, or Aspie. You must have done studies and research in this field.


Of course, I suppose, I should grudgingly concede to the possibility that you're somehow mentally deficient and have built a bizarre world view centred on the supposition that you are somehow the purest form of what passes as perfection in this delusion...


But I prefer to lean toward the former, I'd like to think the best of someone first, lest I fall into the trap of making any...baseless judgements.

[Phlexor]

Well like he says, he likes to live in a fantasy world, so it seems his ideas about us come from there too.

[Soleiyu]

I think autistic people feel more at ease when posting online and so they may appear more "NT" to you. It is in real life that the difficulties with socialising are more obvious.

 

I can pass for NT online I think, and can be jokey and talk to lots of people etc
But offline if I met you guys I'd probably just stand there like a complete retard and wish I'd stayed at home  :lol:

I don't know why I'm the other way around. I was like a mysterious, humorless robot when I played online games and people commented on that, but my old classmates IRL know me as a complete super spazz of epic proportions, they know something is "wrong" with me but most think it's ADHD or something similar. I've stood next to people discussing othes with AS while assuming I don't have it because I'm so "social".

However, my personality drastically changed some years ago and I've always been introverted and in search of solitude even though I never realized my entire life was based on this need to be alone.

[Soleiyu]

Soleiyu, you have some very interesting opinions... I was wondering if you had any evidence to support them? Or if you have any qualifications in the psychology field? I ask because you seem so knowledgeable about what does not and not qualify as being Autistic, or Aspie. You must have done studies and research in this field.


Of course, I suppose, I should grudgingly concede to the possibility that you're somehow mentally deficient and have built a bizarre world view centred on the supposition that you are somehow the purest form of what passes as perfection in this delusion...


But I prefer to lean toward the former, I'd like to think the best of someone first, lest I fall into the trap of making any...baseless judgements.

Like Leonardo Da Vinci I have an intuitive mind and can sense these things. My studies are my own observations, just like those of any scientist would be based on assumptions and his own observations. None of what I say is proven though, however if they researched it it would show.

I know what a pure autist is, and a mule is something different. A mule is your average spazzy retard with some slight social retardation, an aspie is more like an alien. Like Michael Jackson.

[GalileoAce]

Soleiyu, you have some very interesting opinions... I was wondering if you had any evidence to support them? Or if you have any qualifications in the psychology field? I ask because you seem so knowledgeable about what does not and not qualify as being Autistic, or Aspie. You must have done studies and research in this field.


Of course, I suppose, I should grudgingly concede to the possibility that you're somehow mentally deficient and have built a bizarre world view centred on the supposition that you are somehow the purest form of what passes as perfection in this delusion...


But I prefer to lean toward the former, I'd like to think the best of someone first, lest I fall into the trap of making any...baseless judgements.

Like Leonardo Da Vinci I have an intuitive mind and can sense these things. My studies are my own observations, just like those of any scientist would be based on assumptions and his own observations. None of what I say is proven though, however if they researched it it would show.

So...in other words you have no evidence to support your claims beyond your own suppositions? Such a pity.

Most people here seem to disagree with you, at least in part... When one observation is contradicted by many others, that one observation is deemed an aberration.


I asked for concrete evidence and facts to support your claims, but you give me supposition and...intuition? I'm intuitive myself, but I'd never claim that because I sense things that means that it's true. People's perception of reality is often distorted by their own biases and prejudices. This is why evidence is so important. And you lack it.

I know what a pure autist is, and a mule is something different. A mule is your average spazzy retard with some slight social retardation, an aspie is more like an alien. Like Michael Jackson.

I remember learning about someone who know what the "pure masterace" was too...Kindred spirit?

All too often people raise on high the necessities of pure blood and pure race and pure shit.

Pure bloodedness is dangerous. It narrows the gene pool and prevents beneficial mutation whilst promoting negative and harmful mutation due to the inbreeding. There was a recent study and documentary done on this very thing in pure bred dogs.

I'd rather see a beneficial merging of Autism and NT than to have some sort of Magneto-like vendetta by "The Brotherhood of Pure Autistics" against the NTs.


But I digress...I have to ask... In your opinion, what is a "pure autist"?


And finally... are you comparing yourself to Michael Jackson?

[Soleiyu]

Soleiyu, you have some very interesting opinions... I was wondering if you had any evidence to support them? Or if you have any qualifications in the psychology field? I ask because you seem so knowledgeable about what does not and not qualify as being Autistic, or Aspie. You must have done studies and research in this field.


Of course, I suppose, I should grudgingly concede to the possibility that you're somehow mentally deficient and have built a bizarre world view centred on the supposition that you are somehow the purest form of what passes as perfection in this delusion...


But I prefer to lean toward the former, I'd like to think the best of someone first, lest I fall into the trap of making any...baseless judgements.

Like Leonardo Da Vinci I have an intuitive mind and can sense these things. My studies are my own observations, just like those of any scientist would be based on assumptions and his own observations. None of what I say is proven though, however if they researched it it would show.

So...in other words you have no evidence to support your claims beyond your own suppositions? Such a pity.

Most people here seem to disagree with you, at least in part... When one observation is contradicted by many others, that one observation is deemed an aberration.


I asked for concrete evidence and facts to support your claims, but you give me supposition and...intuition? I'm intuitive myself, but I'd never claim that because I sense things that means that it's true. People's perception of reality is often distorted by their own biases and prejudices. This is why evidence is so important. And you lack it.

I know what a pure autist is, and a mule is something different. A mule is your average spazzy retard with some slight social retardation, an aspie is more like an alien. Like Michael Jackson.

I remember learning about someone who know what the "pure masterace" was too...Kindred spirit?

All too often people raise on high the necessities of pure blood and pure race and pure shit.

Pure bloodedness is dangerous. It narrows the gene pool and prevents beneficial mutation whilst promoting negative and harmful mutation due to the inbreeding. There was a recent study and documentary done on this very thing in pure bred dogs.

I'd rather see a beneficial merging of Autism and NT than to have some sort of Magneto-like vendetta by "The Brotherhood of Pure Autistics" against the NTs.


But I digress...I have to ask... In your opinion, what is a "pure autist"?


And finally... are you comparing yourself to Michael Jackson?

If you're as knowledgeable as you claim, you would understand why I can relate to Michael Jackson. Study him some more if you don't understand. If you're just a liberal whore who only value people through wordly accomplishments, then fuck off because you're too shallow to understand why I'm bringing up Michael Jackson.

I don't see cooperation between NT society and autists as possible if the ones in charge aren't autists.

A pure aspie is someone with a different type of brain, not a damaged brain, just different. A mule has a damaged brain which resembles autism but in fact isn't autism. Most diagnosed autists are in fact mules. Many aspies are. I would estimate around 10-15% of all diagnosed aspies are true aspies, while the rest are mules.

A mule lives his entire life wishing he was, or trying to become, NT because he is in fact just a retarded NT with autistic traits caused by some sort of trauma or deformity. A real autist inherits an autistic brain which will reach it's full potential when it can exist independantly of the NT society. True autists who never get this chance and aren't insightful and spiritual enough to chose the life of a recluse can end up school killers and such. They are ruined, perverted and destroyed because they know they can never be like the NT's or mules but society won't give them any other option. Most of these people with severe depression and personality disorders are peaceful deep down, but from an early age their pure autistic brains make them fall victim to expectations wich they can't meet without making themselves extremely unhappy in the process.

NT/Mules "It's cool to have friends"

Autist "but I don't want friends"

NT/Mules "lol, you're only saying that because you're a failed retard, everyone is the same and deep down everyone wants friends"

Autist (damn no one believes me, I can't take this humiliation anymore) *suicide* or *massacre*

The difference between real aspies and mules can also be described in the analogy of true vampires VS the masses made into vampires by other factors. The real vampire is created with a dark blessing, maybe granted his abilities through a talisman, relic or born from a Dark God. The underlings are created by having their blood sucked from them, thus they are impure/not real and their minds are still those of a zombified human somewhere.

[GalileoAce]

If you're as knowledgeable as you claim, you would understand why I can relate to Michael Jackson. Study him some more if you don't understand. If you're just a liberal whore who only value people through wordly accomplishments, then fuck off because you're too shallow to understand why I'm bringing up Michael Jackson.

I think you misunderstand what "liberal" means...

# broad: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant ...
# having political or social views favoring reform and progress
# tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition
# a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties
# big: given or giving freely; "was a big tipper"; "the bounteous goodness of God"; "bountiful compliments"; "a freehanded host"; "a handsome allowance"; "Saturday's child is loving and giving"; "a liberal backer of the arts"; "a munificent gift"; "her fond and openhanded grandfather"
# a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets
# free: not literal; "a loose interpretation of what she had been told"; "a free translation of the poem"

I don't see cooperation between NT society and autists as possible if the ones in charge aren't autists.

Why does there have to be one in charge? What's wrong with cooperating? Working toward a common goal? There doesn't need to be one in charge. I'm disappointed you would think that way. And it's opinions such as this that do nothing to further a beneficial relationship between Autistics and NTs.

A pure aspie is someone with a different type of brain, not a damaged brain, just different. A mule has a damaged brain which resembles autism but in fact isn't autism. Most diagnosed autists are in fact mules. Many aspies are. I would estimate around 10-15% of all diagnosed aspies are true aspies, while the rest are mules.

A mule is the offspring of a male donkey and a female horse. Please use accurate terms.

On the subject of mules; donkeys and horses are similar, but have chromosomal differences. I hate to burst your bubble, but your chromosomes are the same as any other human. Same goes for all other autistics and NTs (chromosomal disorders excluded of course). Thus you "mule" analogy is erroneous. And probably fallacious.

Most diagnosed aspies have been diagnosed by psychological professionals that spent years in training in a field that you, unless I am mistaken, have not. You base this opinion on, in your own words, "intuition". That is simply not good enough. You can not declare scores of Aspies as "mules" simply because you deem them to be so. The world does not work that way.

The only aspies that should be questioned as those that self-diagnose, and even in that case it should not be done in such a bigoted negative fashion as you have demonstrated.


Your definition: "A pure aspie is someone with a different type of brain" is rather broad and covers many people who are not autistic. Not to mention the fact it's an incorrect definition. Autistic don't have a different type of a brain. They have a different brain structure, and a different brain chemistry (similar to ADHD in the latter respect). But there are other conditions in which someone might have a different brain structure.

So again... What is a "pure autist"?

[Soleiyu]

If you're as knowledgeable as you claim, you would understand why I can relate to Michael Jackson. Study him some more if you don't understand. If you're just a liberal whore who only value people through wordly accomplishments, then fuck off because you're too shallow to understand why I'm bringing up Michael Jackson.

I think you misunderstand what "liberal" means...

# broad: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant ...
# having political or social views favoring reform and progress
# tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition
# a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties
# big: given or giving freely; "was a big tipper"; "the bounteous goodness of God"; "bountiful compliments"; "a freehanded host"; "a handsome allowance"; "Saturday's child is loving and giving"; "a liberal backer of the arts"; "a munificent gift"; "her fond and openhanded grandfather"
# a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets
# free: not literal; "a loose interpretation of what she had been told"; "a free translation of the poem"

I don't see cooperation between NT society and autists as possible if the ones in charge aren't autists.

Why does there have to be one in charge? What's wrong with cooperating? Working toward a common goal? There doesn't need to be one in charge. I'm disappointed you would think that way. And it's opinions such as this that do nothing to further a beneficial relationship between Autistics and NTs.

A pure aspie is someone with a different type of brain, not a damaged brain, just different. A mule has a damaged brain which resembles autism but in fact isn't autism. Most diagnosed autists are in fact mules. Many aspies are. I would estimate around 10-15% of all diagnosed aspies are true aspies, while the rest are mules.

A mule is the offspring of a male donkey and a female horse. Please use accurate terms.

On the subject of mules; donkeys and horses are similar, but have chromosomal differences. I hate to burst your bubble, but your chromosomes are the same as any other human. Same goes for all other autistics and NTs (chromosomal disorders excluded of course). Thus you "mule" analogy is erroneous. And probably fallacious.

Most diagnosed aspies have been diagnosed by psychological professionals that spent years in training in a field that you, unless I am mistaken, have not. You base this opinion on, in your own words, "intuition". That is simply not good enough. You can not declare scores of Aspies as "mules" simply because you deem them to be so. The world does not work that way.

The only aspies that should be questioned as those that self-diagnose, and even in that case it should not be done in such a bigoted negative fashion as you have demonstrated.


Your definition: "A pure aspie is someone with a different type of brain" is rather broad and covers many people who are not autistic. Not to mention the fact it's an incorrect definition. Autistic don't have a different type of a brain. They have a different brain structure, and a different brain chemistry (similar to ADHD in the latter respect). But there are other conditions in which someone might have a different brain structure.

So again... What is a "pure autist"?

A pure autist is someone born with his variations, someone who inherited them from eccentric family members. I borrowed the term mule from the spanish racial laws of Mexico in the 17th century where certain racial breeds were called mules. It's just a term I use in lack of better, you're not in any position to say it's wrong or right, so again fuck off american pseudo-intellectual.

You don't decide how the world works for me. I am me, you are you and you have no right to decide anything so again, fuck you. You do have the right to your oppinions, just like I am entitled to mine.

[Soleiyu]

I'll give you a choice, either you stop being pseudo-intellectual logical wannabe perfectionist or you go on my ignore list. Your self righteous rational garbage only serves one purpose, to make yourself feel balanced and mindful at the expense of someone more emotional. You are a forum vampire hidden behind a civilized phasade. You are the passive hater who projects everything bad, cleanses himself through an almost meditative state of perfect rational thinking and manages to feel in harmony with the world by targeting emotional and passionate "crazy" people with your rational lectures.

Please stop leeching on me emotionally, stop projecting and show your true self or you will be ignored.