Young Children

[odeon]

I'm pretty sure Amerikasend (or whatever his name these days is) is crossing the line re our TOS. I don't want this site targeted by either our host or a third party because a fuckwit attempts to be offensive, so this stops here, right now.

I've sent him a PM. The second time I need to do that I'll ban his sorry arse.

[RageBeoulve]

I'm pretty sure Amerikasend (or whatever his name these days is) is crossing the line re our TOS. I don't want this site targeted by either our host or a third party because a fuckwit attempts to be offensive, so this stops here, right now.

I've sent him a PM. The second time I need to do that I'll ban his sorry arse.

Thanks man. That guy is a piece of shit anyway.

[odeon]

I don't know what he's trying to achieve, really.

[Small Penis]

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[The_Chosen_One]

I'm pretty sure Amerikasend (or whatever his name these days is) is crossing the line re our TOS. I don't want this site targeted by either our host or a third party because a fuckwit attempts to be offensive, so this stops here, right now.

I've sent him a PM. The second time I need to do that I'll ban his sorry arse.

Thanks man. That guy is a piece of shit anyway.

From what I've heard, all he was talking about was a cartoon (anime) of some deviant stuff. If he posted the thing, then remove it and tell him why. If it was a question about the aspect of it, what the fuck does it matter? Banning people for being fuckwits makes it seem like Quaterfag or MrMark has taken over. To me, the only legitimate banning recently was peaguy, and SP doesn't even come close to that. No one gives a shit at zOMG, let alone Soph, and he doesn't post porn or any shit to take down the site so why the drama here? Boredom does some fucking weird things to people, but whinging about them makes you wonder who is actually causing more trouble. Last year taught me that.

[odeon]

It's not up to you, TCO. If he violates the TOS of this site again, he is out of here. End of story.

[The_Chosen_One]

Seems a bit heavy handed to kick someone if they hadn't violated the TOS, and I'm taking parts' word on this. Also, I'm going on what was said over at zOMG, and if what he said is true, heavy handed would be an under-statement. Still, it's your site, and we are just the membership who keep it going......

Oh, and just one word of advice - just because you don't like the ethics or the membership of Soph's site doesn't give you the right to bag them without first checking them out.

[Eclair]

Seems a bit heavy handed to kick someone if they hadn't violated the TOS, and I'm taking parts' word on this. Also, I'm going on what was said over at zOMG, and if what he said is true, heavy handed would be an under-statement. Still, it's your site, and we are just the membership who keep it going......Oh, and just one word of advice - just because you don't like the ethics or the membership of Soph's site doesn't give you the right to bag them without first checking them out.

Well, my friend, I am a member and I complained about the content of the thread.

And I'm sorry, if you find the topic interesting, too bad. That definitely is not what this site is for. And definitely happy to debate the issue, but I am appalled that the discussion about that sort of thing is something you feel is worth fighting for.

As for Odeon's slant on the TOS, not only are his points valid, specifically, they also state;

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. Any material that, in our judgment, is obscene, threatening, illegal, or violates our terms of service in any manner may be removed from our servers (or otherwise disabled), with or without notice.

Failure to respond to email from our abuse department within 48 hours may result in the suspension or termination of your services. All abuse issues must be dealt with via troubleticket/email and will have a response within 48 hours.

If in doubt regarding the acceptability of your site or service, please contact us at abuse@hostgator.com and we will be happy to assist you.

Potential harm to minors is strictly forbidden, including but not limited to child pornography or content perceived to be child pornography (Lolita):

Any site found to host child pornography or linking to child pornography will be suspended immediately without notice.


Therefore, TALKING about harm to minors, or content perceived to be child pornography, exposes the site to being shut down. Apart from being hideously offensive.

And yes, the laws the site are bound to are US laws....not the freehanded laws you and others wish to debate.

And debate away, but the TOS are clear.

[Blasted]

Did he actually post child porn?  Images or videos?  I didn't see the original post.

[Eclair]

Did he actually post child porn?  Images or videos?  I didn't see the original post.

He wanted people to recount stories, basically.

[odeon]

Seems a bit heavy handed to kick someone if they hadn't violated the TOS, and I'm taking parts' word on this. Also, I'm going on what was said over at zOMG, and if what he said is true, heavy handed would be an under-statement. Still, it's your site, and we are just the membership who keep it going......

Oh, and just one word of advice - just because you don't like the ethics or the membership of Soph's site doesn't give you the right to bag them without first checking them out.

I have no problems with the ethics or the membership of Soph's site. Whatever gave you that idea? What I do have problems with are idiots that risk the entire site for weak-assed trolling. What Amerikasend posted was very clearly against our TOS, and since I'm the one paying the bills, it's up to me what to do.

Don't like that? Tough.

[odeon]

Did he actually post child porn?  Images or videos?  I didn't see the original post.

He wanted people to recount stories, basically.

Which is bad enough since it encourages illegal activities.

[Blasted]

I guess.  I highly doubt it was serious though and even more improbable is that anyone else on here would post memorable tit-bits about their paedophilic activities.

Still, TOS is TOS.

[The_Chosen_One]

Seems a bit heavy handed to kick someone if they hadn't violated the TOS, and I'm taking parts' word on this. Also, I'm going on what was said over at zOMG, and if what he said is true, heavy handed would be an under-statement. Still, it's your site, and we are just the membership who keep it going......Oh, and just one word of advice - just because you don't like the ethics or the membership of Soph's site doesn't give you the right to bag them without first checking them out.

Well, my friend, I am a member and I complained about the content of the thread.

And I'm sorry, if you find the topic interesting, too bad. That definitely is not what this site is for. And definitely happy to debate the issue, but I am appalled that the discussion about that sort of thing is something you feel is worth fighting for.

As for Odeon's slant on the TOS, not only are his points valid, specifically, they also state;

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. Any material that, in our judgment, is obscene, threatening, illegal, or violates our terms of service in any manner may be removed from our servers (or otherwise disabled), with or without notice.

Failure to respond to email from our abuse department within 48 hours may result in the suspension or termination of your services. All abuse issues must be dealt with via troubleticket/email and will have a response within 48 hours.

If in doubt regarding the acceptability of your site or service, please contact us at abuse@hostgator.com and we will be happy to assist you.

Potential harm to minors is strictly forbidden, including but not limited to child pornography or content perceived to be child pornography (Lolita):

Any site found to host child pornography or linking to child pornography will be suspended immediately without notice.


Therefore, TALKING about harm to minors, or content perceived to be child pornography, exposes the site to being shut down. Apart from being hideously offensive.

And yes, the laws the site are bound to are US laws....not the freehanded laws you and others wish to debate.

And debate away, but the TOS are clear.

Personally I don't give a shit about the subject. It's the criticsm of the guy for merely discussing it that's abhorrent. If he posted pics of porn related material, then fair enough. Buty if it was just a rant or some shit about fucking kids (which was the subject of the anime - a robot fucking an 11 year old), then where is the problem? How much porn have others like TheoK and his ilk have put up on this site, only to have nothing done? Are they threatened with the ban stick because of it? buttcoffee may be a fucktard, and he may post a lot of crap, but as long as it doesn't directly fuck things up, then who gives a shit. I personally think porn is a wank, and don't bother with it, but aq discussion or question on an act can't be considered too fucking harmful.

It's a pity there aren't universal laws for things like the net, considering the US fucks everything it touches.

Fucking lighten up, for Christ's sake. no-one was advocating child porn at all anyway, and all your overreactions prove is that you can't see the forest for the trees.

[odeon]

It doesn't matter if it's serious or not. What matters is what our host (and the groups that would push for the shutdown of I2, if they found out) think.

I'm not willing to risk the site for a troll.