Terror Plot Foiled In London

[QuirkyCarla]

Give peace a chance.

The shittest song ever written.

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

I love that song.

[Leto729]

I wonder why people are against Israel defending itself but the Muslims are using terrorism?

Good question, Kevv.
I could say more about this, but I think what most people in the West (although definitely not myself) find most objectionable about Israel is that it is an ethnically defined nation state.

People would be ok with this if they still considered the Jews an oppressed people. But now they are considered to be powerful.

Europeans now view nationalism as the greatest evil, and they are busy trying to dissolve their own nation states.

What's more, Israel sticks out like a sore thumb as a remnant of European (British) colonialism. People complain that it's an "artificial" state, but it is not much more artificial than Pakistan.
But, unlike Pakistan, it sticks out as an island of Western-style democracy amidst a sea of backwardness.

I agree with all You have said here.

I think the Europeans here and there have had enough of Israel. But Israel is not the problem that needs to be solved. At least there is one Democracy amidst the sea of backwardness. You are very correct on this point. It is to bad Europe can not see that either.

European Nationalism is dying rightly or wrongly.

The World is never that cut and dried that We live in and never will be either in the end.

[Leto729]

Now is I posted that I say this what is needed is Wisdom.

So Let Wisdom Rule.

[McGiver]

give wisdom a chance.

all together now, all we need is wisdom.

[QuirkyCarla]

Whisper words of wisdom. Let it be.

[McGiver]

i always thought it was wistful...

[QuirkyCarla]

http://www.lyrics007.com/The%20Beatles%20Lyrics/Let%20it%20Be%20Lyrics.html

[McGiver]

i always hear song lyrics wrong.

like for the family guy theme song i always thought stewies solo was effin cryyyy!

turns out that its actually, laugh and cryyyy.

[QuirkyCarla]

I hear them wrong a lot too.

[McGiver]

i fixed my previous post.  i guess i put image tags instead of the .

[QuirkyCarla]

I thought something was missing. 

[Leto729]

Again joking a side let Wisdom Rule.

[odeon]

16 percent is still one in evry six people polled agreed with the terrorist act of 7/7 (btw-i am not familiar with it, i am just giving numbers.
also, 1 in 6 is, like beowulf said, those who admitted it.  it could be a far worse number.

still, 1 in 6 is a scary number.  that would be 3 people for every family living in a container.

Yes, it would seem so, but note that these 16% did not approve with the actions of the bombers.

[McGiver]

so 84 percent did?

[odeon]

so 84 percent did?

They did not approve of either the cause or the methods used. But you knew that.