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FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« on: March 20, 2009, 07:50:44 PM »
Can someone catch a (female)funnel spider, put it in a jar and seal the lid, so that the spider suffocates. And THEN ship it to me here in the US?  :eyelash:
If I EVER make it to Australia Im gonna catch one for myself with my buckknife and do just that.
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 11:41:34 PM »
I don't live near Sydney, but couldn't you buy one for scientific research purposes or something? Not sure how customs would like a regular person sending one in the post. The government is is a little sensitive about people sending wildlife and plants etc overseas.
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2009, 11:59:46 PM »
Quote from: Lord Phlexor on March 20, 2009, 11:41:34 PM
I don't live near Sydney, but couldn't you buy one for scientific research purposes or something? Not sure how customs would like a regular person sending one in the post. The government is is a little sensitive about people sending wildlife and plants etc overseas.

I dont want a live one, I want a DEAD one.  :evillaugh:

Mercifully there are NO funnel spiders whatsoever in the Americas[in fact, there are species of funnelweb spiders all across Eurasia, the australian variety just happens to be the Deadliest :skull:]
But the spider that really freaks me the fuck out is the Godforsaken "Banana Spider"(Phoneutria Nigriventer) which just showed up in an box of bananas from Brazil in an Oklahoma supermarket!!  :jawdrop:
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 12:47:27 AM »
Quote from: Depressed Mode on March 20, 2009, 11:59:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Phlexor on March 20, 2009, 11:41:34 PM
I don't live near Sydney, but couldn't you buy one for scientific research purposes or something? Not sure how customs would like a regular person sending one in the post. The government is is a little sensitive about people sending wildlife and plants etc overseas.

I dont want a live one, I want a DEAD one.  :evillaugh:

Mercifully there are NO funnel spiders whatsoever in the Americas[in fact, there are species of funnelweb spiders all across Eurasia, the australian variety just happens to be the Deadliest :skull:]
But the spider that really freaks me the fuck out is the Godforsaken "Banana Spider"(Phoneutria Nigriventer) which just showed up in an box of bananas from Brazil in an Oklahoma supermarket!!  :jawdrop:

Yeah, I meant a dead one for study purposes. Or perhaps those people who collect insects and shit and pin them to boards or whatnot. Maybe they trade and sell that shit.

But yeah, that banana spider is a deadly motherfucker or what.  :zombiefuck:
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2009, 02:09:20 AM »
You don't catch spiders with a knife, silly — you use a jar with a lid, and a stiff piece of card. If you're game enough, that is. I don't mind huntsman spiders, but funnel webs give me the horrors.

These days if you want to send a parcel overseas, Australia Post requires you to show photo ID and fill out a card with your contact details. I don't know about outgoing post, but incoming post is screened fairly thoroughly. Half the packages sent by my North American relatives get sliced open, then sticky-taped shut by some vigilant AQIS employee, with a brochure helpfully included to explain why I should not be upset about this.

Oh, and I learned the hard way that it is against the law for an ordinary individual to post a bottle of wine privately to a recipient in Canada. I forked over I-forget-how-much for one of Australia Post's fancy wine mailing boxes (perfect for all 750-mL to one-litre bottles!) and paid more than the wine was worth in postage, only to find out that the wine had to be either returned or destroyed. Everybody lost out in that little episode — except for Australia Post. >:(
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2009, 05:08:42 AM »
Quote from: Lord Phlexor on March 21, 2009, 12:47:27 AM
Quote from: Depressed Mode on March 20, 2009, 11:59:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Phlexor on March 20, 2009, 11:41:34 PM
I don't live near Sydney, but couldn't you buy one for scientific research purposes or something? Not sure how customs would like a regular person sending one in the post. The government is is a little sensitive about people sending wildlife and plants etc overseas.

I dont want a live one, I want a DEAD one.  :evillaugh:

Mercifully there are NO funnel spiders whatsoever in the Americas[in fact, there are species of funnelweb spiders all across Eurasia, the australian variety just happens to be the Deadliest :skull:]
But the spider that really freaks me the fuck out is the Godforsaken "Banana Spider"(Phoneutria Nigriventer) which just showed up in an box of bananas from Brazil in an Oklahoma supermarket!!  :jawdrop:

Yeah, I meant a dead one for study purposes. Or perhaps those people who collect insects and shit and pin them to boards or whatnot. Maybe they trade and sell that shit.

But yeah, that banana spider is a deadly motherfucker or what.  :zombiefuck:



Well actually, the banana spider is deadly but not NEARLY as lethal as the Sydney Funnel Spider!  :eyebrows:
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2009, 05:14:17 AM »
We don't have any really deadly spiders in Sweden, but we have this one, and it looks a bit scary:

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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2009, 05:16:17 AM »
Quote from: Depressed Mode on March 21, 2009, 05:08:42 AM
Quote from: Lord Phlexor on March 21, 2009, 12:47:27 AM
Quote from: Depressed Mode on March 20, 2009, 11:59:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Phlexor on March 20, 2009, 11:41:34 PM
I don't live near Sydney, but couldn't you buy one for scientific research purposes or something? Not sure how customs would like a regular person sending one in the post. The government is is a little sensitive about people sending wildlife and plants etc overseas.

I dont want a live one, I want a DEAD one.  :evillaugh:

Mercifully there are NO funnel spiders whatsoever in the Americas[in fact, there are species of funnelweb spiders all across Eurasia, the australian variety just happens to be the Deadliest :skull:]
But the spider that really freaks me the fuck out is the Godforsaken "Banana Spider"(Phoneutria Nigriventer) which just showed up in an box of bananas from Brazil in an Oklahoma supermarket!!  :jawdrop:

Yeah, I meant a dead one for study purposes. Or perhaps those people who collect insects and shit and pin them to boards or whatnot. Maybe they trade and sell that shit.

But yeah, that banana spider is a deadly motherfucker or what.  :zombiefuck:



Well actually, the banana spider is deadly but not NEARLY as lethal as the Sydney Funnel Spider!  :eyebrows:


Wikipedia says it particularly dangerous because of its willingness to attack people I think.
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2009, 07:31:31 AM »
You might be able to get one encased in resin or in formalin but not lose and dry.  And you would have a better chance if you did it through a university. We used to have samples from all over the world when I took entomology.
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2009, 07:34:02 AM »
Quote from: parts on March 21, 2009, 07:31:31 AM
You might be able to get one encased in resin or in formalin but not lose and dry.  And you would have a better chance if you did it through a university. We used to have samples from all over the world when I took entomology.

This is so ridiculous. It's a fucking dead spider. You could get dead scorpions through the customs in Sweden before. Maybe you still can. I know people who have done it.
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2009, 03:37:46 PM »
Quote from: Lord Phlexor on March 21, 2009, 05:16:17 AM
Quote from: Depressed Mode on March 21, 2009, 05:08:42 AM
Quote from: Lord Phlexor on March 21, 2009, 12:47:27 AM
Quote from: Depressed Mode on March 20, 2009, 11:59:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Phlexor on March 20, 2009, 11:41:34 PM
I don't live near Sydney, but couldn't you buy one for scientific research purposes or something? Not sure how customs would like a regular person sending one in the post. The government is is a little sensitive about people sending wildlife and plants etc overseas.

I dont want a live one, I want a DEAD one.  :evillaugh:

Mercifully there are NO funnel spiders whatsoever in the Americas[in fact, there are species of funnelweb spiders all across Eurasia, the australian variety just happens to be the Deadliest :skull:]
But the spider that really freaks me the fuck out is the Godforsaken "Banana Spider"(Phoneutria Nigriventer) which just showed up in an box of bananas from Brazil in an Oklahoma supermarket!!  :jawdrop:

Yeah, I meant a dead one for study purposes. Or perhaps those people who collect insects and shit and pin them to boards or whatnot. Maybe they trade and sell that shit.

But yeah, that banana spider is a deadly motherfucker or what.  :zombiefuck:



Well actually, the banana spider is deadly but not NEARLY as lethal as the Sydney Funnel Spider!  :eyebrows:


Wikipedia says it particularly dangerous because of its willingness to attack people I think.


I hear the same is true of funnel spiders. ESPECIALLY males during the rainy season. A bite from Phoneutria Nigriventer Can kill but apparently it isnt fatal 100% of the time. On the other hand, a bite from a Male syndey funnel spider is guaranteed to kill if untreated with antivenin.

Here are the worlds top 3 most dangerous spiders:

1.Atrax Robustus(sidney funnel spider)

2.Phoneutria Nigriventer(banana spider)

3.Latrodectus Hasselti(redback spider)
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2009, 03:51:33 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on March 21, 2009, 07:34:02 AM
Quote from: parts on March 21, 2009, 07:31:31 AM
You might be able to get one encased in resin or in formalin but not lose and dry.  And you would have a better chance if you did it through a university. We used to have samples from all over the world when I took entomology.

This is so ridiculous. It's a fucking dead spider. You could get dead scorpions through the customs in Sweden before. Maybe you still can. I know people who have done it.

They are sensitive about possible invasive species coming to the US.  There could be places here where they would be able to live.  As to them being dead they would say "how do we know it was dead when you sent it"  Best bet it through a University they know how to do these things
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2009, 06:04:58 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on March 21, 2009, 05:14:17 AM
We don't have any really deadly spiders in Sweden, but we have this one, and it looks a bit scary:



I think the funnel web spider looker much scarier...


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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2009, 06:27:32 PM »
Note the stance.

Of course, that specific pic was chosen to show ferocity. (I'm not even sure if that's a FWS, but that is a good example of why they are dangerous)
They are aggressive!! We have a deadly spider hear as well, but it prefers to hide - in fact the Indians who live with them in the woods call it "The Spider That Hides"  in their native language.

We also have a very aggressive species of spider here, known to capture and kill birds, mice, etc, called a trapdoor spider. Extremely aggressive, but their poison is not even slightly dangerous to humans. Hurts like fuck to be bitten (seen it, but never been bitten - biting insects and arachnids do not seem to have any interest in biting me, stinging insects and scorpions have no such qualms, however.) and makes a mess of the local skin for a couple of weeks, but only leaves a small scar and no one is known to ever have the kind of complications from this spider bite that can cause death.

It is the effectiveness of their poison against so many species, along with their inherent aggression that makes the FWS so dangerous.
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Re: FUNNEL SPIDERS(For Aussies only-'specially that live near Sidney)
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2009, 06:41:17 PM »
Quote from: DirtDawg on March 21, 2009, 06:27:32 PM

Note the stance.

Of course, that specific pic was chosen to show ferocity. (I'm not even sure if that's a FWS, but that is a good example of why they are dangerous)
They are aggressive!! We have a deadly spider hear as well, but it prefers to hide - in fact the Indians who live with them in the woods call it "The Spider That Hides"  in their native language.

We also have a very aggressive species of spider here, known to capture and kill birds, mice, etc, called a trapdoor spider. Extremely aggressive, but their poison is not even slightly dangerous to humans. Hurts like fuck to be bitten (seen it, but never been bitten - biting insects and arachnids do not seem to have any interest in biting me, stinging insects and scorpions have no such qualms, however.) and makes a mess of the local skin for a couple of weeks, but only leaves a small scar and no one is known to ever have the kind of complications from this spider bite that can cause death.

We have trapdoor spiders in Australia too.

http://www.austmus.gov.au/factsheets/trapdoor_spiders.htm
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