blast from the past - new info on a bad teacher I hate, decades later

[Phlexor]

The thing is, your ideas are very simplistic, idealistic and amateurish to the point where is would be a lot of pointless work to explain why. If it isn't already obvious to you how those things just don't work in the real world, no amount of explaining is going to change your mind, and why wants to waste time doing something like that for no gain. People like you go out of their way to find their own wacky hair brained ideas and are never willing to listen to reason when it is given to you, no matter how much you claim that you want to hear. It's almost like a form of self delusion where you are trying to convince yourself that you are good guy by pretending to be open minded.

You are just another childless person who thinks they have all the ideas for those with children. You'll never understand and its a waste of time trying to convince you otherwise.

[TheoK]

I do not understand why you feel you need odeon to express his opinion, if he has any, on the solution to bullying in schools. Do you require it in order to believe his assertion that you idea is broken? I mean I doubt that would be anywhere near enough for you to sway you beliefs. So all that I am left with is that you wish to publicly ridicule his ideas. I fail to see how that us useful and I also believe that odeon isn't that stupid to play into your juvenile game here.

Please feel free to point out how I'm wrong, I don't want to be left out here 

odeon is ridiculing other people in this topic as well as others, but he doesn't come up with a solution of his own. You don't have to give a solution of your own just for critizing others, but it makes you lee trustworthy.

[TheoK]

I do not understand why you feel you need odeon to express his opinion, if he has any, on the solution to bullying in schools. Do you require it in order to believe his assertion that you idea is broken? I mean I doubt that would be anywhere near enough for you to sway you beliefs. So all that I am left with is that you wish to publicly ridicule his ideas. I fail to see how that us useful and I also believe that odeon isn't that stupid to play into your juvenile game here.

Please feel free to point out how I'm wrong, I don't want to be left out here 

Because he has dismissed myself and Lit's solutions out of hand on a society says so argument - without presenting any solutions at all, let alone any better ones. If he does actually have some good ideas here then I would like to hear them - especially if they are actually viable.

But the point here our assertion is the best one - he just lacks any opposition. I (and I am sure Lit agrees with me here) that cowering behind none existant ideas is not a way to debate properly - if anything here Odeon is the one being juvenile here.

  The coward cowers - what else? 

[Phlexor]

I do not understand why you feel you need odeon to express his opinion, if he has any, on the solution to bullying in schools. Do you require it in order to believe his assertion that you idea is broken? I mean I doubt that would be anywhere near enough for you to sway you beliefs. So all that I am left with is that you wish to publicly ridicule his ideas. I fail to see how that us useful and I also believe that odeon isn't that stupid to play into your juvenile game here.

Please feel free to point out how I'm wrong, I don't want to be left out here 

odeon is ridiculing other people in this topic as well as others, but he doesn't come up with a solution of his own. You don't have to give a solution of your own just for critizing others, but it makes you lee trustworthy.

So it's just a dumb rule you have made up to bully someone (which doesn't seem to be working) into giving forth their opinion in order for you to pick it apart because you are insecure in exposing the failings of your own idea?

Sounds like NT bullshit trickery to me.

[odeon]

Equal distribution of wealth is not possible, either.

"Liberalism" in a nutshell: to those who have shall be given.

Nothing to do with liberalism, Lit, merely my considered opinion. I suppose it's easier for you to imply that than try explaining why you think my opinion is wrong, though.

Tell the audience how you would do it.

You first - its not like you have not been asked.

OK--assuming that you actually asked me to tell you why I don't think equal distribution of wealth is possible.

Ha - though I never advocated it if you had read my post.

It's basic human nature, really. Most people don't want to part with their earthly possessions. In fact, quite a few are prepared to fight for them. It's all over the news, with stories of break-ins, shooting intruders and the like, as well as apparent here, in quite a few recent posts about gun control.

As westerners, I'd say that the average member on this board has more than the average person on Earth but I have yet to hear of anyone here planning on sending a fair share of those possessions to the less fortunate in, say, Somalia.

Feel free to prove me wrong and send your computer to someone there.

Your turn. Tell me why equal distribution of wealth is a practical possibility. Furthermore, tell me how to do it and live to see the next day.

"So you don't have an alternative solution for dealing with bullies in schools then?"
That question - you never said what you would do here.

We were talking about equal distribution of wealth. I said it isn't possible and told you why. What seems to be your problem? Your turn now.

As for schools and bullying, I told you a couple of days ago that what I do for my kids is not something I will talk about here. What part of that pst did you not understand?

[odeon]

I do not understand why you feel you need odeon to express his opinion, if he has any, on the solution to bullying in schools. Do you require it in order to believe his assertion that you idea is broken? I mean I doubt that would be anywhere near enough for you to sway you beliefs. So all that I am left with is that you wish to publicly ridicule his ideas. I fail to see how that us useful and I also believe that odeon isn't that stupid to play into your juvenile game here.

Please feel free to point out how I'm wrong, I don't want to be left out here 

Because he has dismissed myself and Lit's solutions out of hand on a society says so argument - without presenting any solutions at all, let alone any better ones. If he does actually have some good ideas here then I would like to hear them - especially if they are actually viable.

But the point here our assertion is the best one - he just lacks any opposition. I (and I am sure Lit agrees with me here) that cowering behind none existant ideas is not a way to debate properly - if anything here Odeon is the one being juvenile here.

So let's hear it. How do you propose to implement a meritocracy? Or failing that, tell us how you think a few people can bring down society? And I want details, not sweeping statements or blaming the bottle.

[odeon]

I do not understand why you feel you need odeon to express his opinion, if he has any, on the solution to bullying in schools. Do you require it in order to believe his assertion that you idea is broken? I mean I doubt that would be anywhere near enough for you to sway you beliefs. So all that I am left with is that you wish to publicly ridicule his ideas. I fail to see how that us useful and I also believe that odeon isn't that stupid to play into your juvenile game here.

Please feel free to point out how I'm wrong, I don't want to be left out here 

odeon is ridiculing other people in this topic as well as others, but he doesn't come up with a solution of his own. You don't have to give a solution of your own just for critizing others, but it makes you lee trustworthy.

Which is why you replied with

"Liberalism" in a nutshell: to those who have shall be given.

instead of telling us why you seem to consider equal distribution of wealth a practical possibility?

See, the reason why I'm taking the piss is because you two are so fucking naive it hurts. You're replacing Flo as Intensity's village idiots and I'm not above kicking you in the arse for the lulz. You're just electrons, yes, but a bunch of very stupid electrons.

[TheoK]

Anarchism is one way to get equal distribution. Another, more boring and conventional way, is the way that the Social Democrats have used in Sweden, which was pretty well functioning for a couple of decades.

[odeon]

None of those methods works. There was never equality under social democrat rule. That's why the socialist states fail, one after another--the ideology does not work. And anarchy--please; show me a working example of anarchy, anywhere.

[TheoK]

That's because the average man prefers to be a sheep instead of a free man. He could be free if he wanted to.

[odeon]

You're the sheep, Lit.  Go blow up a road sign and show the world how *free* you are.

[Christopher McCandless]

I do not understand why you feel you need odeon to express his opinion, if he has any, on the solution to bullying in schools. Do you require it in order to believe his assertion that you idea is broken? I mean I doubt that would be anywhere near enough for you to sway you beliefs. So all that I am left with is that you wish to publicly ridicule his ideas. I fail to see how that us useful and I also believe that odeon isn't that stupid to play into your juvenile game here.

Please feel free to point out how I'm wrong, I don't want to be left out here 

odeon is ridiculing other people in this topic as well as others, but he doesn't come up with a solution of his own. You don't have to give a solution of your own just for critizing others, but it makes you lee trustworthy.

So it's just a dumb rule you have made up to bully someone (which doesn't seem to be working) into giving forth their opinion in order for you to pick it apart because you are insecure in exposing the failings of your own idea?

Sounds like NT bullshit trickery to me.

If anyone one here could be construed to be bullying, it would be Odeon with his Ad Hom nonsense.

[TheoK]

You're the sheep, Lit.  Go blow up a road sign and show the world how *free* you are.

What will you vote for 2010? The "liberals"? The "conservatives"? The Center Party? The Green? 

[odeon]

If anyone one here could be construed to be bullying, it would be Odeon with his Ad Hom nonsense.

Poor you. Really.

[odeon]

You're the sheep, Lit.  Go blow up a road sign and show the world how *free* you are.

What will you vote for 2010? The "liberals"? The "conservatives"? The Center Party? The Green? 

Avoiding the subject much?