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New (medicinal) Drugs
« on: November 18, 2008, 07:05:32 PM »
Mirtazapine - anyone had any experience?

I went to the doctor today because I wanted to make sure I was clear of chlamydia which I had treatment for in September. I also wanted to get my hepatitis B injections, as the STI screen showed I was suprisingly free of antibodies.  While I was at the doctors I thought I should try to get some more drugs, as you do. :green:

I've quit smoking a few days ago and was wondering if there was some kind of anti-anxiety medication I could take to help deal with social situations. I'm a social chain-smoker. I mentioned that I felt much more at ease and felt like smoking less whilst on zoloft last year, but didn't want to deal with the mania again. I requested small doses of valium (rather naiively). Doc wasn't keen on giving me a drug of dependence.
So, we came back to anti-depressants. Reading a little about mirtazapine (wiki) it looks like it has some similar properties to the SSRI I was on (notably the anti-OCD and anti-anxiety properties) but it will actually help me sleep! AWESOME!!! :asthing:

I'm not sure I really need it though. I'm not depressed like I was last year, and not a big fan of popping pills. Well actually that's a lie, I love taking recreational drugs, but that's much more controlable and situation-specific. On that point, it doesn't seem as though mirtazapine has any contra-indications, nor does it affect the serotonin system in the same way as SSRIs as to reduce the effectiveness of serotonin-like drugs (MDxx, LSD etc.)
I probably seem fucked in the head because I'd prefer to have occasional psychedelic experiences rather than long-term stability, but that's what my passion is, it's the culture I'm a part of. I don't need it but I want to keep experimenting with my brain for a little while yet. God I really am fucked up :evillaugh:
« Last Edit: November 18, 2008, 07:53:36 PM by vodzy »
This brain could do with some more dimethyltryptamine.

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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 09:02:48 PM »
Going by some of these side-effects,
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Side effects occurring commonly

    * Mild visual hallucinations (when taken during the day or when awake)
    * Increased appetite
    * Vivid dreams / Nightmares as a result of regular intake
    * Depersonalization / Derealization (i.e. feeling unreal, in a dream-like state)
    * Weight gain
    * Increase in cholesterol, independent of weight gain
    * Drowsiness, especially at lower doses and during the first few weeks of treatment
    * Dizziness, coupled often with the effects of sickness
    * Headache
- Wikipedia

... you won't need to take recreational drugs.  ;)

Have only had Prozac, Edronax, Effexor(which suxxors) and Lexapro (which everyone should try and stay away from). About to try Cymbalta just to try and come off Lexapro. Seems that any doctor I go to wants to put me on anti-psychotics as well but I don't want them.

You could try the Mirtazepine but just a small dose at first. :plus: for quitting the smokes.
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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2008, 09:15:25 PM »
Yeah I've been reading some more info (from a recreational drug pro-information/harm-reduction site) and it sounds like it will be fun for a while, but the hallucinations will gradually diminish.

I could do with some weight-gain, but I think it might be more to do with increased appetite. I eat a lot as it is, I'm just skinny.

Oh and I've been given a 15mg dose to start with, a pretty light one.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2008, 09:20:32 PM by vodzy »
This brain could do with some more dimethyltryptamine.

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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2008, 09:24:11 PM »
Remeron, my ex is on this.

Just be careful with it, he takes it at night, puts him out cold.

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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2008, 09:25:27 PM »
Sometimes the weight gain is due to digestion slowing down. I remember a doctor telling me that about anti-psychotics.
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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2008, 05:58:28 AM »
I've been on mirtazapine.  It didn't completely fuck me up like other ADs did, but it was still less than pleasant, giving me dry, itchy eyes, dry mouth, constipation, and a tired, hung-over feeling in the mornings.
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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2008, 06:21:45 AM »
Have only had Prozac, Edronax, Effexor(which suxxors) and Lexapro (which everyone should try and stay away from). About to try Cymbalta just to try and come off Lexapro. Seems that any doctor I go to wants to put me on anti-psychotics as well but I don't want them.

You could try the Mirtazepine but just a small dose at first. :plus: for quitting the smokes.


Oh, how much fun (not) did you have on Effexor? That shit fucked me up big time if I missed my dose by a few hours. Endded up going cold turkey on it which was also not fun. I ended up getting mini blackouts every now and again, they'd last about a second. Dunno how else to describe it.

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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2008, 07:08:15 AM »
Oh, how much fun (not) did you have on Effexor? That shit fucked me up big time if I missed my dose by a few hours. Endded up going cold turkey on it which was also not fun. I ended up getting mini blackouts every now and again, they'd last about a second. Dunno how else to describe it.
I was on that for awhile some years back... as I remember it like tripled my bitchiness level.
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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2008, 07:50:19 AM »
i gave smoking because it was making me cough and wheeze and generally feel like an old geezer.
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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2008, 02:54:07 PM »
I have no experience with it, but  :plus:  for quitting smoking.

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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2008, 03:57:05 PM »
I took it as an off label sleep aid worked real good at first then pooped out
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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2008, 04:17:18 PM »
gaaaaah who mentioned effexor :headexplode:

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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2008, 04:32:47 PM »
Oh, how much fun (not) did you have on Effexor? That shit fucked me up big time if I missed my dose by a few hours. Endded up going cold turkey on it which was also not fun. I ended up getting mini blackouts every now and again, they'd last about a second. Dunno how else to describe it.
I was on that for awhile some years back... as I remember it like tripled my bitchiness level.

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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2008, 04:33:08 PM »
gaaaaah who mentioned effexor :headexplode:

Yeah that's it, that exactly what it did to my head.

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Re: New (medicinal) Drugs
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2008, 05:33:35 PM »
Wellbutrin could help You quit smoking.

I am on Cymbalta for depression.

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