NOT a McCainiac

[Johnny]

Do you Remember 1987



Thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information........


It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; 'Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?'

Ollie replied, 'Yes, I did, Sir.'

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, 'Isn't that just a little excessive?'

'No, sir,' continued Ollie.

'No? And why not?' the senator asked.

'Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir.'

'Threatened? By whom?' the senator questioned.

'By a terrorist, sir' Ollie answered.

'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?'

'His name is Osama bin Laden, sir' Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?' the senator asked.

'Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of', Ollie answered.

'And what do you recommend we do about him?' asked the senator.

'Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.'

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.


By the way, that senator was Al Gore!

Also:

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in  Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called 'political prisoners.'

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, 'insisted' that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked us by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center .. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.

vote for the pro terrorism party of the dumocraps, the american traitor jimmy carter let the nut jobs gain control of Iran which was the key to a stable middle east and sinse than the world has suffered thousands of terrorist attacks

[DirtDawg]

OH, btw, I have come close to hating the Bush administration. I am NOT a McCainiac, but I'll be damned before I vote in the tax increases of an Obama administration.

many of his ideas are valid, but most of what Obama wants to do will fuck over all of us.

I don't know yet which is thethe worst of evils!

Only if you make more than $200,000! At least that is what his plan says.

and you probably believed clintoon only raised taxes on the richest 1%

That would be called selective memory, right?

Look what happened at the local level in per capita taxes, FFS, during the Clinton administration. Yes, the federal taxes went up a little bit, even less than the controlled inflation bill which is coming due now, but check your pocket. How much did electricity go up?

(investor in electrical utilities, here. *smiles*)

[odeon]

Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country

Nope. Your beloved W did most of it by himself. Problem is, not only did he bankrupt YOUR country, he had a fair go with the rest of the globe.

Kiss him goodbye.

and in reality most of the socail welfare spending was already built into the system and if Jimmy Carter hadn't let Iran fall we wouldn't have had problems in the middle east for the last 30 years and there would have been no need for home  land security and probably half the military spending the last 30 years.

go lap up some more CNN, reality is too complicated for you

/shrugs

Go on believing that if you like. In reality, your view of foreign politics is like a child's. Wide-eyed and trusting, and so naive it hurts. I guess you never had to face the consequences of any of the things your heroes did.

[Christopher McCandless]

i can't take this election seriously any more: a system which allows for a fuckwad like palin even being nominated for VP is beyond ridiculous.

Democracy is a scary thing. Palin is trying to get nominated for 2012 now anyway.

Oh btw, if you have not already seen it, you have got to watch Tina Fey do Palin.

[Johnny]

Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country

Nope. Your beloved W did most of it by himself. Problem is, not only did he bankrupt YOUR country, he had a fair go with the rest of the globe.

Kiss him goodbye.

and in reality most of the socail welfare spending was already built into the system and if Jimmy Carter hadn't let Iran fall we wouldn't have had problems in the middle east for the last 30 years and there would have been no need for home  land security and probably half the military spending the last 30 years.

go lap up some more CNN, reality is too complicated for you

/shrugs

Go on believing that if you like. In reality, your view of foreign politics is like a child's. Wide-eyed and trusting, and so naive it hurts. I guess you never had to face the consequences of any of the things your heroes did.

The PC reply is " you aren't seeing the bigger picture " that is what management uses when employee's try and tell them they are clueless.

seeing as how you can't dispute the social welfare cost where the dumocrpas making and the middle east problem was the dumocrpas making, it's evident you can only stomp your feet like a child it's Bush's fault because that is what the media brainwashed you to believe.

[Johnny]

Do you Remember 1987



Thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information........


It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; 'Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?'

Ollie replied, 'Yes, I did, Sir.'

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, 'Isn't that just a little excessive?'

'No, sir,' continued Ollie.

'No? And why not?' the senator asked.

'Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir.'

'Threatened? By whom?' the senator questioned.

'By a terrorist, sir' Ollie answered.

'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?'

'His name is Osama bin Laden, sir' Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?' the senator asked.

'Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of', Ollie answered.

'And what do you recommend we do about him?' asked the senator.

'Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.'

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.


By the way, that senator was Al Gore!

Also:

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in  Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called 'political prisoners.'

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, 'insisted' that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked us by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center .. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.

both stories are pure bullshit

[DirtDawg]

I really and truly wish your election would only affect your country. That way we could shrug and complain about the morons *we* have instead of the morons you elect but that will affect our lives even though we are not allowed a word edgewise.

If I could give you and only intelligent, well informed people a vote, I would. Unfortunately, sixty to seventy percent of the public (my estimation and I am pretending to be quite gracious, here) are not deserving of the privilege to cast a vote that weighs so heavily on the future history of the entire world.

[DirtDawg]

Still think it's a shame he missed.

I don't get this.
The old lawdog Cheney "accidentally" hit with a stray shot died about three or four days later and he had been hit by Cheney's shotgun.

... or do you mean that he would have been a faster gun than Cheney and Cheney should have been hit?

(actually, it was too late by this time - he had already balanced the strings of the GWB puppet into a dance that is still going)

[Tesla]

I think this picture sums it up.

[El]

I think the guy I'm dating will vote for McCain if he votes- not as a way of supporting McCain but as a way of not taking the election seriously (and because it won't make a difference).  I missed my chance to register to vote; I didn't make the time (though I could have gone out of my way if I was really motivated) because I'm also preeeeetty sure it won't make a difference.  My state votes for me; if Massachusetts votes for McCain I'll eat my hat.

When I'm in Boston in a couple of weeks, you wanna hook up?

I'll take your silence as a "No way in hell you sick bastard!" Rejection is my muse!

PS I was just kidding. I'm not really a creep.

  I know you were kidding; I didn't even get back to this thread till just now.  So, delivering my crushing blow to your facetious man-wants a little bit too late:  "Naaaaaah.  Thanks for the offer though."

Then, what if I wasn't kidding?

Then, if my relationship with my Current has gone totally south by then and you have a recent clean and complete STD workup you can show me, gimme a call.   

i can't take this election seriously any more: a system which allows for a fuckwad like palin even being nominated for VP is beyond ridiculous.

Democracy is a scary thing. Palin is trying to get nominated for 2012 now anyway.

Oh btw, if you have not already seen it, you have got to watch Tina Fey do Palin.

Why do you want Lucifer to watch unappealing lesbian porn???

[Lucifer]

oh, is that what it is?

i have a feeling i'd rather stick pins in my eyes...

[Christopher McCandless]

oh, is that what it is?

i have a feeling i'd rather stick pins in my eyes...

No, its hilarious comedy:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/

[odeon]

Bush has done more damage than Al Qaeda ever could. And god knows both have been trying their best.

and in reality it was the dumocraps who nearly bankrupted the country

Nope. Your beloved W did most of it by himself. Problem is, not only did he bankrupt YOUR country, he had a fair go with the rest of the globe.

Kiss him goodbye.

and in reality most of the socail welfare spending was already built into the system and if Jimmy Carter hadn't let Iran fall we wouldn't have had problems in the middle east for the last 30 years and there would have been no need for home  land security and probably half the military spending the last 30 years.

go lap up some more CNN, reality is too complicated for you

/shrugs

Go on believing that if you like. In reality, your view of foreign politics is like a child's. Wide-eyed and trusting, and so naive it hurts. I guess you never had to face the consequences of any of the things your heroes did.

The PC reply is " you aren't seeing the bigger picture " that is what management uses when employee's try and tell them they are clueless.

seeing as how you can't dispute the social welfare cost where the dumocrpas making and the middle east problem was the dumocrpas making, it's evident you can only stomp your feet like a child it's Bush's fault because that is what the media brainwashed you to believe.

My first reaction was to laugh. My second to cry.

Your opinions aren't worth either.

[odeon]

I really and truly wish your election would only affect your country. That way we could shrug and complain about the morons *we* have instead of the morons you elect but that will affect our lives even though we are not allowed a word edgewise.

If I could give you and only intelligent, well informed people a vote, I would. Unfortunately, sixty to seventy percent of the public (my estimation and I am pretending to be quite gracious, here) are not deserving of the privilege to cast a vote that weighs so heavily on the future history of the entire world.

I'd say our figures seem to be pretty much the same.

[El]

oh, is that what it is?

i have a feeling i'd rather stick pins in my eyes...

No, its hilarious comedy:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/

XD- sorry, I thought everyone knew that already; I was being ridiculous.