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Re: Creationism in UK schools
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2007, 03:22:51 PM »
since when has "god's" existence been part of natural science?

wtf are you on about, you numpty?

That happens when you use the Bible as you science textbook :P
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Re: Creationism in UK schools
« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2007, 09:02:39 PM »
since when has "god's" existence been part of natural science?

It WOULD be, if there were a means of
showing the opposite. What I was saying,
which has NOTHING to do with your question,
was that your supposition about a lack of evidence
against being a sign of some sort of 'proof'. There
are NO proofs in science. Well established THEORY
is as good as it gets.

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Re: Creationism in UK schools
« Reply #62 on: October 09, 2007, 11:59:22 PM »
since when has "god's" existence been part of natural science?

It WOULD be, if there were a means of
showing the opposite. What I was saying,
which has NOTHING to do with your question,
was that your supposition about a lack of evidence
against being a sign of some sort of 'proof'. There
are NO proofs in science. Well established THEORY
is as good as it gets.


flo?  is that you?

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Re: Creationism in UK schools
« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2007, 12:15:47 AM »
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since when has "god's" existence been part of natural science?

THIS question. No wonder you can't make sense of me.
You're always looking for the cheap humor point.

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Re: Creationism in UK schools
« Reply #64 on: October 10, 2007, 06:19:03 AM »

What about the bombing of abortion clinics. Or their push to get their morality into law to be able to for example banning some books ,art of course everyones favourite porn.  All fundamentalists are bad in my book muslin and Christian 

The bombing of abortion clinics is commended by a lot of Christian fundamentalists, even if they do believe in banning abortion outright. Christian Fundamentalists at worst are self righteous pacifists.

To me banning of certain books, arts and porn is pretty mild, compared to say putting women under the chador or hijab.

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Re: Creationism in UK schools
« Reply #65 on: October 10, 2007, 08:59:55 AM »

What about the bombing of abortion clinics. Or their push to get their morality into law to be able to for example banning some books ,art of course everyones favourite porn.  All fundamentalists are bad in my book muslin and Christian 

The bombing of abortion clinics is commended by a lot of Christian fundamentalists, even if they do believe in banning abortion outright. Christian Fundamentalists at worst are self righteous pacifists.

To me banning of certain books, arts and porn is pretty mild, compared to say putting women under the chador or hijab.
Condemned in public yes but for many thats as far as it goes. You may look at them as self righteous pacifists but their law taken as far as many of them would want it goes beyond just banning books into controlling lives the banning of the books is just the beginning.  I know of several churches in my area that treat women as second class citizens with dress codes and the men making all the decisions and I am in a very liberal part of the country. If you look at what many of them want it is similar maybe not as harsh but bad still.
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Re: Creationism in UK schools
« Reply #66 on: October 10, 2007, 09:01:52 AM »
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since when has "god's" existence been part of natural science?

THIS question. No wonder you can't make sense of me.
You're always looking for the cheap humor point.

what utter bollocks.  you were talking crap, and now you're trying to wriggle out of it by pointing at me.

didn't work.  try again.

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Re: Creationism in UK schools
« Reply #67 on: October 10, 2007, 05:04:41 PM »
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since when has "god's" existence been part of natural science?

THIS question. No wonder you can't make sense of me.
You're always looking for the cheap humor point.

what utter bollocks.  you were talking crap, and now you're trying to wriggle out of it by pointing at me.

didn't work.  try again.

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No. But you seem incapable of making sense of me.
I'll leave it be, I suppose. That sentence is EXACTLY
what I meant, and I don't want to continue this with
someone accusing me of lying, which is what you are
effectively doing with your statement.

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Re: Creationism in UK schools
« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2007, 09:19:07 PM »
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since when has "god's" existence been part of natural science?

THIS question. No wonder you can't make sense of me.
You're always looking for the cheap humor point.

QFT  :agreed:  :minusevil:

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Re: Creationism in UK schools
« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2007, 12:56:31 AM »
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since when has "god's" existence been part of natural science?

THIS question. No wonder you can't make sense of me.
You're always looking for the cheap humor point.

what utter bollocks.  you were talking crap, and now you're trying to wriggle out of it by pointing at me.

didn't work.  try again.

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No. But you seem incapable of making sense of me.

you say this a lot, to a wide range of people on here.  doesn't this tell you something?  if so many people haven't a clue what you're on about, perhaps it's not that they're "incapable of understanding you", but that you're incapable of making sense.


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I'll leave it be, I suppose.

cop out.

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That sentence is EXACTLY
what I meant, and I don't want to continue this with
someone accusing me of lying, which is what you are
effectively doing with your statement.

no, i don't think you're lying - i think you're doing a poor (and unsubtle) job of trying to wriggle out of it.

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Re: Creationism in UK schools
« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2007, 01:03:43 AM »


you say this a lot, to a wide range of people on here.  doesn't this tell you something?  if so many people haven't a clue what you're on about, perhaps it's not that they're "incapable of understanding you", but that you're incapable of making sense.

It's pretty much always the same people. Now, I have NO doubt
whatsoever that this is a matter of my own communication skills,
at least as much as your ability to decipher them. But, given that
there are those who have no difficulty getting my meaning, I somehow
doubt that it's a matter of just me. Call it incompatibilities. My own
way of putting it didn't assume that you were the whole cause of
the problem in our communication. You, of course, turn to blaming
me entirely. Clearly NOT the case, as my points DO make sense to
some.

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I'll leave it be, I suppose.

cop out.

Why? We really don't seem to be able to
communicate. I know that you actually
believe the point that I'm trying to make.

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That sentence is EXACTLY
what I meant, and I don't want to continue this with
someone accusing me of lying, which is what you are
effectively doing with your statement.

no, i don't think you're lying - i think you're doing a poor (and unsubtle) job of trying to wriggle out of it.

This is bs. There was not one bit of wriggling.
By saying that, you ARE accusing me of lying,
as I've stated that is not what I was doing.
If you trust me to not lie, then let me assure
you that I'm NOT doing that.