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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2007, 11:07:37 AM »
He probably is in prison because he is guilty of something. He might be innocent, but even non-Muslims are innocently convicted, even in Sweden and all other western countries. It's kind of a bitter irony on behalf of most Iraqi males, though, that those guys in abu-Ghraib were treated like pets by a woman. It's hardly a prejudice that most Arab males treat their wifes worse than most Swedish or American males do.

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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2007, 03:39:56 PM »
He probably is in prison because he is guilty of something. He might be innocent, but even non-Muslims are innocently convicted, even in Sweden and all other western countries. It's kind of a bitter irony on behalf of most Iraqi males, though, that those guys in abu-Ghraib were treated like pets by a woman. It's hardly a prejudice that most Arab males treat their wifes worse than most Swedish or American males do.

The foundation of a just society: you're only in prison if you're guilty of something. ::)
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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2007, 03:42:06 PM »
He probably is in prison because he is guilty of something. He might be innocent, but even non-Muslims are innocently convicted, even in Sweden and all other western countries. It's kind of a bitter irony on behalf of most Iraqi males, though, that those guys in abu-Ghraib were treated like pets by a woman. It's hardly a prejudice that most Arab males treat their wifes worse than most Swedish or American males do.

The foundation of a just society: you're only in prison if you're guilty of something. ::)

Absolutely not. But probably.

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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2007, 03:45:44 PM »
Oh pleeeeze. In Iraq, after the invasion? You only had to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2007, 03:52:05 PM »
I actually don't think that American troops randomly take POWs. We can ask Scrapheap, he's actually been with the US Marine Corps in Bosnia. He should know.
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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2007, 03:55:52 PM »
He probably is in prison because he is guilty of something. He might be innocent, but even non-Muslims are innocently convicted, even in Sweden and all other western countries. It's kind of a bitter irony on behalf of most Iraqi males, though, that those guys in abu-Ghraib were treated like pets by a woman. It's hardly a prejudice that most Arab males treat their wifes worse than most Swedish or American males do.

The foundation of a just society: you're only in prison if you're guilty of something. ::)

Absolutely not. But probably.

No. DEFINITELY. Every person is guilty of something. Torture for ALL!!

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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2007, 04:44:25 PM »
I'm guilty of keeping this thread alive. ;D
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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2007, 04:57:34 PM »
I actually don't think that American troops randomly take POWs. We can ask Scrapheap, he's actually been with the US Marine Corps in Bosnia. He should know.

Our operating orders wer'nt much different from a policeman's.  You had to have Probable Cause or Reasonable Articulable Suspicion.  :police:

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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2007, 05:55:24 PM »
It's so great when you use stereotypes to avoid argumentation, instead of actually considering the point I was making. McJ, how do you know that Ms England's pet in the picture a) treats his wife badly and b) is a Muslim? Do you think that since he's already in prison, he should somehow be punished because there are people whose morals and way of life you don't agree with?

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i don't know.

but i do know that he was fighting for a country that held these beliefs.


now i would give you a negative karma, but i am nort so petty.  i still believe that you may make a point yet.
so i will reserve judgement.
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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2007, 05:58:02 PM »
Oh pleeeeze. In Iraq, after the invasion? You only had to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
i believe that scrap answered your statement.

btw-your statement reeks of generalizations without fact to support it.
exactly what you have been accusing others of.


personally, i believe that you have succumed to the propaganda machine more than the other POV.
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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2007, 04:16:32 AM »
It's so great when you use stereotypes to avoid argumentation, instead of actually considering the point I was making. McJ, how do you know that Ms England's pet in the picture a) treats his wife badly and b) is a Muslim? Do you think that since he's already in prison, he should somehow be punished because there are people whose morals and way of life you don't agree with?

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i don't know.

but i do know that he was fighting for a country that held these beliefs.

How do you know that? A large number of prisoners had done nothing, according to several human rights organizations.

And you didn't answer my question. What justifies him being treated like this? The Geneva convention is quite specific here.

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now i would give you a negative karma, but i am nort so petty.  i still believe that you may make a point yet.
so i will reserve judgement.

Why, thank you. Do you think I'm petty since I gheyed you?
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Re: I am so tired of this
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2007, 04:30:02 AM »
her pet was a soldier.


no, not petty, just pretty ghry.
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