Another murder by america

[Scrapheap]

The only issue I have with the death penalty is a philosophical one. By allowing the State to execute criminals, we have given them power to decide if citizens live or die. That is not a power I'm comfortable giving to the state.

Technically, the State isn't deciding, the people are, with a jury.

No, the jury are just doing what they're told. They're just a proxy so the state can distance itself from killing and claim that it's following the will of the people. It's the State that has the power of life or death over it's citizens, which I find troubling.

[P7PSP]

The only issue I have with the death penalty is a philosophical one. By allowing the State to execute criminals, we have given them power to decide if citizens live or die. That is not a power I'm comfortable giving to the state.

Technically, the State isn't deciding, the people are, with a jury.

No, the jury are just doing what they're told. They're just a proxy so the state can distance itself from killing and claim that it's following the will of the people. It's the State that has the power of life or death over it's citizens, which I find troubling.

Told by who? How many juries have you served on? I have been on two, in one case we had convictions on all but one felony count and the guy received a sentence of 22 years 4 months. In the other case it was an across the board acquittal. In neither case were we told how to vote! You would know that if you had actually been there.

[renaeden]

Can't understand why in that article why they are focusing so much on the colour of the guy's skin? They should be focusing on whether or not he actually committed the crime. Who cares what colour he is?

[P7PSP]

Can't understand why in that article why they are focusing so much on the colour of the guy's skin? They should be focusing on whether or not he actually committed the crime. Who cares what colour he is?

It's the same shit that was done with scumbag Tookie Williams. Saying "Look he wrote a children's book" to try and distance him from the 4 murders he committed. He wasn't executed for writing a children's book and neither was Dr Seuss. Tookie was executed for committing 4 murders in two separate robberies.

[Callaway]

I realize that Troy Davis was convicted, but in this case, the eyewitness testimony does look shaky to me.  Apparently the police sort of coerced some of the eyewitnesses' ID.

The Troy Davis case was staged—pure theater. I do not mean "staged" because the case has attracted worldwide attention and high-profile supporters. Nor do I refer here to the drama surrounding the Georgia Board of Pardons, which at the 11th hour denied clemency again this morning, so that Davis faces execution tomorrow—despite powerful evidence of his innocence. By "staged" I mean that the eyewitness evidence at the core of his original criminal trial was, quite literally, staged by the police.

The federal court that finally reviewed evidence of Davis' innocence agreed "this case centers on eyewitness testimony." Yet that court put to one side the fact that seven of the nine witnesses at the trial have now recanted, and new witnesses have implicated another man. The court did so while failing to carefully examine how eyewitnesses ultimately came to identify Davis as the man who shot a police officer intervening in a fight at a Burger King parking lot. The Troy Davis case—which raises a wide array of flaws in our death penalty system, our post-conviction system, and the politics of criminal justice—is thus also a case about malleability of eyewitness memory and police misconduct.

I still remember the motorcycle accident my husband and I witnessed and then were accused of causing, probably by the man who actually caused it, but the sheriff seemed to totally believe him and didn't even want to listen to my husband and me.  We're just lucky that the accident victim didn't mistakenly identify us too.

[Callaway]

Troy Davis was executed.

Here were his final words:

"I'd like to address the MacPhail family. Let you know, despite the situation you are in, I'm not the one who personally killed your son, your father, your brother. I am innocent.

The incident that happened that night is not my fault. I did not have a gun. All I can ask ... is that you look deeper into this case so that you really can finally see the truth.

I ask my family and friends to continue to fight this fight.

For those about to take my life, God have mercy on your souls. And may God bless your souls."

[Calavera]

Troy Davis was executed.

Here were his final words:

"I'd like to address the MacPhail family. Let you know, despite the situation you are in, I'm not the one who personally killed your son, your father, your brother. I am innocent.

The incident that happened that night is not my fault. I did not have a gun. All I can ask ... is that you look deeper into this case so that you really can finally see the truth.

I ask my family and friends to continue to fight this fight.

For those about to take my life, God have mercy on your souls. And may God bless your souls."

I think the key is whether or not he stressed on the words "not". Experts say that when lying and denying an accusation made against you, you tend to stress the word "not" instead of using contractions like "didn't" and "isn't" or at least saying "not" normally.

Of course, this isn't to say that he must therefore definitely been a liar or innocent, but it can be a good indicator.

Also, he never really attempts to give his side of the story here and state what really happened. But then again that could be because he was already on the verge of death anyway so no time or motivation.

[P7PSP]

Yeah, "I am not the one who personally killed your son" is an interesting qualifier to use. But hey, it is not like a person on death row would have an incentive to lie. Would they?

[Calavera]

Yeah, "I am not the one who personally killed your son" is an interesting qualifier to use. But hey, it is not like a person on death row would have an incentive to lie. Would they?

Depends on the person. He might have wanted his family and his supporters to keep believing that he was innocent even after his execution for pure narcissistic purposes, or he might have hoped that there'd be a sudden change of heart right at the last minute and have him released.

That, or he really may have been innocent this whole time. Never really bothered to follow this case much.

But one thing's for sure. The human mind is very unpredictable.

[Phallacy]

And in other instances, the human mind is very predictable.

Despite him being DEAD, the mass media will keep on stroking this cock long after it has gone flaccid, as usual.

[skyblue1]

believe it is already off the news

[Phallacy]

Don't think that the cretins of the mass media will NOT find an excuse to mention the case again in the near future, just for ratings.

[midlifeaspie]

Don't think that the cretins of the mass media will NOT find an excuse to mention the case again in the near future, just for ratings.

Like they have been doing with Ted Bundy all these years.  Despicable.