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Re: Diagnosing NPD
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2007, 01:18:59 AM »
I don't see why they couldn't be comorbid, though the asperger's would likely make the narcissist a lot less competent as a social engineer. But possibly not - there are people on the spectrum who logically learn the social rules so thoroughly that they figure out the routine of acquiring narcissistic supply.
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Re: Diagnosing NPD
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2007, 04:19:21 AM »
I've learned most of those silly "social rules", except for exactly want to do to catch a chick. Once I'm together with her it's not a problem, the thing is to catch her.

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Re: Diagnosing NPD
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2007, 09:44:37 PM »
I'm hard pressed to decide.  I am pretty good at language.

I am good at expressing myself, but I suck at empathy.  I kinda fake it based on how I know people are supposed to feel.

I avoid pain by not only by (at times) excluding, devaluing, and discarding others but withdrawing and passionately valuing only a few people or interests.  I just DONT do the prior by saying it to their face, or trying to make them look bad to others(which is so obvious when it is being done it is self defeating).  I just do it in my own mind.

I am still undecided.
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Re: Diagnosing NPD
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2007, 05:31:23 AM »
Nomaken - my completely uneducated opinion is that you're nowhere near manipulative or hurt enough to have NPD. Simply an aspie who's taken nonjudgementalness to the level of a fine art or insanity.
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Re: Diagnosing NPD
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2007, 06:20:16 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/02/27/self.centered.students.ap/index.html


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NEW YORK (AP) -- Today's college students are more narcissistic and self-centered than their predecessors, according to a comprehensive new study by five psychologists who worry that the trend could be harmful to personal relationships and American society.

"We need to stop endlessly repeating 'You're special' and having children repeat that back," said the study's lead author, Professor Jean Twenge of San Diego State University. "Kids are self-centered enough already."

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Re: Diagnosing NPD
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2007, 12:58:30 AM »
Sensationalism designed to push the buttons of people who assume that narcissism is a spectrum from ideal (0%) to twisted (100%). Realistically, utter humility is just as dysfunctional as utter narcissism and there's a happy medium between, but the language of that article is biased. It doesn't even define by what standards it's judging "average", just says that current scores are "above average" and we're expected to automatically assume that's a bad thing.
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Re: Diagnosing NPD
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2007, 11:39:34 PM »
I don't see why they couldn't be comorbid, though the asperger's would likely make the narcissist a lot less competent as a social engineer. But possibly not - there are people on the spectrum who logically learn the social rules so thoroughly that they figure out the routine of acquiring narcissistic supply.

NPD requires an enhanced ability to read people. Something most Aspies find difficult. that's what would lead me to believe that the two are rarely if EVER co-morbid.

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Re: Diagnosing NPD
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2007, 05:38:49 AM »
I just read over the DSM-IV criteria again and I don't see anything about enhanced ability to read people. The closest is this: "is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends". That doesn't necessarily imply exceptional ability.
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Re: Diagnosing NPD
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2007, 12:48:00 AM »
Lemon curry??

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Re: Diagnosing NPD
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2007, 05:55:13 AM »
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