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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: Parts on September 08, 2008, 06:37:30 PM
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It's these motorized wheel chairs that are everywhere on the streets,sidewalks and stores. Nobody seems to watch what they do and think the world revolves abound them with their reckless driving and deserving attitude. I figure less than half need them judging but the wear on their shoes. And who pays or this we do all thouse adds on the TV saying they will get them for you for free from the government teat. I have no problem with the people who need them but there are so many who don't >:(
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Do they keep them in the back of their SUV's for greater range?
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There is a differenc between the scooters and the actual wheelchairs. the scooters have the steering mechanism like handlebrs in front, while the chairs have a joystick on one arm. Some people use the scooters because they are lazy, granted; but most are fairly responsible. The biggest problem I see is motorists who don't indicate or cyclists riding on the footpaths.
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It's these motorized wheel chairs that are everywhere on the streets,sidewalks and stores. Nobody seems to watch what they do and think the world revolves abound them with their reckless driving and deserving attitude. I figure less than half need them judging but the wear on their shoes. And who pays or this we do all thouse adds on the TV saying they will get them for you for free from the government teat. I have no problem with the people who need them but there are so many who don't >:(
You cannot tell just by looking at people whether or not they actually need motorized wheelchairs. Not all physical disabilities can be readily seen by an observer.
Maybe they have Multiple Sclerosis or Parkinson's Disease or maybe they have some lung condition so that they can't get enough air if they walk more than a few steps. I have known people with these problems before and a motorized wheelchair makes the difference for them between being stuck at home and being out enjoying their lives.
You are right that some of the people driving them need to be more careful to watch where they are going, though.
They often don't leave a lot of room for chairs like this in some stores that I have shopped in. I had trouble just pushing a baby stroller through some of them, and that was frustrating for me.
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You cannot tell just by looking at people whether or not they actually need motorized wheelchairs. Not all physical disabilities can be readily seen by an observer.
:plus: for sense.
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I saw an old man on some kind of motorised chair tangle with a kid on a bicycle once. They were both going for the same slim chance in traffic and the old man went at an angle while the kid was mostly airborne, jumping a curb at his best speed. There was a drainage dip right there and the kids always nail it, but usually without the feeble in their way.
The kid's back tire clipped the old man's handlebars and down they went, in front of oncoming traffic. I was about three cars back, waiting to turn, but I could see well what had happened. The kid's bike kept on going and a car ran over it without even stopping. Another car slammed on its brakes and stopped just in time to keep from hitting either of them.
They were both very lucky. The kid bounced up from his nastily roadrashed knee, but the old man just laid there in a daze.
Everybody just drives too fucking fast around here!
Unfortunately, there are places where those kind of chairs are not allowed on the sidewalks, so they end up driving down the streets at seven or eight miles per hour.
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I'm more bothered by the ones with people
standing up on. Nothing that's allowed on sidewalks
ought to be able to move that quickly.
As to not being able to tell if someone needs
some device, I do know several people who
had handicap parking tags who absolutely
shouldn't have.
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Do they keep them in the back of their SUV's for greater range?
Yes :laugh:
You cannot tell just by looking at people whether or not they actually need motorized wheelchairs.
Well when they don't park in a handicap spot and walk a good distance to get in the store then use the stores one it's a hint that and excessive wear on there shoes. It's not just that though they have generally no manners I have almost been hit numerous times
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SUV's and "Toorak Tractors" are often a menace themselves, especially when the owners act as if they own the road. Plus, when they are parked and another driver is trying to get out of a parallel or angle parking space; it's well-nigh impossible to see around them.
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I have seen a person park their car in a disabled bay and then run to catch the train. They probably didn't have an ACROD sticker either. >:(
There is a guy in my class who uses a motorised wheelchair most of the time but he uses a scooter when he goes grocery shopping because then he can carry more bags.
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It's these motorized wheel chairs that are everywhere on the streets,sidewalks and stores. Nobody seems to watch what they do and think the world revolves abound them with their reckless driving and deserving attitude. I figure less than half need them judging but the wear on their shoes. And who pays or this we do all thouse adds on the TV saying they will get them for you for free from the government teat. I have no problem with the people who need them but there are so many who don't >:(
These are NEW in America :o
They've been the scourge in the UK for a couple of decades now :grrr:
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The biggest problem I see is motorists who don't indicate or cyclists riding on the footpaths.
Abso-fraggin-lutely.
Cyclists are permitted to ride on the pavement in the town where I live... it never used to be so... and they are so reckless and unthinking of pedestrians. In the news one girl even got killed by a cyclist on the pavement and several children have been hurt (these in different towns). In a road around the corner from where I live, the pavement has been completely given to being a cycle-way and pedestrians are not supposed to use it (and its a normal pavement with curb and everything)... we do, its the quickest route we can take to our nearest Tesco (not being car drivers). Strangely enough, the cyclists along there (very few) tend to be more careful with the pedestrians than the ones cycling on pedestrian pavements. Go figure! ???
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I thought this thread would be about Russell Brand for a sec:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm-8_ljdZIU
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I thought this thread would be about Russell Brand for a sec:
I thought it was going to be about the Presidential hopefulls >:D
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The biggest problem I see is motorists who don't indicate or cyclists riding on the footpaths.
Abso-fraggin-lutely.
Signaling your intention in traffic is the same as committing treason by giving away controlled and classified information to the enemy, it seems.
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And er, what did that have to do with motorised chairs? Perhaps he'd like to be in one.....
I have a 'diabled' stciker I keep in mum's car for when I'm at her place. As I don't drive, it's still valid for when I'm being driven around. They aren't just for wheelchars, but blind and other diasbilities as well.
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Nothing, I guess.
I thought "indicating" meant signaling a turn in traffic, since over here, they call those little flashing lights on cars which you use to signal a turn, turn indicators if they want to seem uppity. We expect word usages from outside our borders to be different, since we mostly change everything to suit ourselves.
:asthing:
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Actually, I was referring to hardon's vid. These posts tend to get screwed up if you aren't quick enough.
We call 'em indicators, or blinkers. In the old days you had to hand-signal. Straight out for right hand turn (as we drive on the left), and bent up for left turn.
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It's these motorized wheel chairs that are everywhere on the streets,sidewalks and stores. Nobody seems to watch what they do and think the world revolves abound them with their reckless driving and deserving attitude. I figure less than half need them judging but the wear on their shoes. And who pays or this we do all thouse adds on the TV saying they will get them for you for free from the government teat. I have no problem with the people who need them but there are so many who don't >:(
Yeah I have read about medicare fraud in the local paper here. People are forging doctor's sigs to get themselves a power chair and they charge the medicare company. Now they have found out lot of it was fraud and the doctor's prescribed no such thing to those people. Now Medicare has lost thousands of dollars.
I have seen young people in one but she really needed it. There was something wrong with her legs. How do I know, I lived in Montana and she lived in the same town as me and her kids went to school so I saw her a lot with her kids, at sport games, as school events, etc. I have even seen her walking using a cane and she was limping. She was in her 30's.
But how can you tell who doesn't need one? They will look normal but how can we tell there isn't something wrong with their legs?
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Look at their shoes and see how much wear is on them
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I have seen a person park their car in a disabled bay and then run to catch the train. They probably didn't have an ACROD sticker either. >:(
There is a guy in my class who uses a motorised wheelchair most of the time but he uses a scooter when he goes grocery shopping because then he can carry more bags.
I met a guy who found a handicapped parking permit in a parking lot and he picked it up and took it with him. He said he uses it sometimes so he wouldn't have to walk far but most of the time he doesn't because he is nice to let others use it who really do need it. But I still didn't like the idea of him ever using it, it's dishonest and it wouldn't work for him anyway because it's not registered to his car. So if a officer saw the permit and saw it's not registered to his car, he will write him a ticket.
I don't know if he was trying to impress me but it sure didn't. He did other things I didn't like like road rage. Not something I want my child to learn or the dishonesty. After one day I decided he wasn't for me.
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Look at their shoes and see how much wear is on them
Do you compare it with how worn their clothes look? Some people might have worn shoes because they haven't bought a new pair in the past 20 years. I only buy a new pair of boots when my current ones are falling apart. :P
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Look at their shoes and see how much wear is on them
Do you compare it with how worn their clothes look? Some people might have worn shoes because they haven't bought a new pair in the past 20 years. I only buy a new pair of boots when my current ones are falling apart. :P
Actually I do :green: also the condition of the uppers as apposed to the soles tells a lot. BTW my shoes are falling apart too
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The biggest problem I see is motorists who don't indicate or cyclists riding on the footpaths.
Abso-fraggin-lutely.
Cyclists are permitted to ride on the pavement in the town where I live... it never used to be so... and they are so reckless and unthinking of pedestrians. In the news one girl even got killed by a cyclist on the pavement and several children have been hurt (these in different towns). In a road around the corner from where I live, the pavement has been completely given to being a cycle-way and pedestrians are not supposed to use it (and its a normal pavement with curb and everything)... we do, its the quickest route we can take to our nearest Tesco (not being car drivers). Strangely enough, the cyclists along there (very few) tend to be more careful with the pedestrians than the ones cycling on pedestrian pavements. Go figure! ???
Oh god I hate cyclists, bad ones. They get in your way and they don't move out of your way when you are coming. One time I left my doctor's appointment and I had to go to The Dollar Tree. Well I had to drive like ten miles per hour on a 35 mph zone because of a cyclist. I couldn't go around him because of upcoming traffic coming towards me and the guy just would not go on the side walk to let me by. There were a line of cars behind me and then all of a sudden, the guy behind me honked and they guy moved onto the sidewalk. I sped up and said "Thank you you stupid cyclist." Yeah it took him a few minutes to move aside and he knew I was behind him because he saw me.
I have read of cyclists getting hit by cars here because they weren't looking when they were riding or the driver got impatient and tried to go by them or they tried beating them to an intersection.
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Look at their shoes and see how much wear is on them
But that just tells you how often they buy new shoes. There could be poor people who do a little walking but don't replace their shoes for years and years. Of course there could also be people who bought their shoes yesterday but still don't need the chair. Looking at the shoes is a potentially false assumption.
Edit: lol, just finished reading the thread, should have kept my mouth shut cause Peter got there first.
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If you see someone in a chair that is only wearing socks or moccasins, it's a pointer to them needing the chair. Muscular dystrophy, MS, Spina Bifida and other problems can be hidden, but the ones who definitely need the chairs can't be denied them cos of the lazy buggers. The things cost mostly around $5000 or upward, so nobody is going to go out and buy one if they can help it, and the waiting list for replacements is quite long.
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If you see someone in a chair that is only wearing socks or moccasins, it's a pointer to them needing the chair. Muscular dystrophy, MS, Spina Bifida and other problems can be hidden, but the ones who definitely need the chairs can't be denied them cos of the lazy buggers. The things cost mostly around $5000 or upward, so nobody is going to go out and buy one if they can help it, and the waiting list for replacements is quite long.
I saw one trashed in a garbage pile. In the US they run adds about them by companies that sell them saying they will get you one for free from the government. I know some people need them and have no problem with that but it's been an explosion of them around here. I also see many who could use the but don't have them. Mostly I see severely overweight people in them
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welcome to victim nation, people with handicapped plates on their cars are also a menace, they drive like they have a giant chip on their shoulder
some people can walk just fine, but are in bad pain every step and can't take it for long, so it's likely a pair of shoe would get worn at some point, juts might take many years.
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Mostly I see severely overweight people in them
Which raises the question of whether they're in the chair because they're overweight, or overweight because they ride around in a buggy when they could be getting some exercise.
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Some people are so overweight they have troubles walking, so they need a power chair. The bigger you are, the harder it is to move.
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Some people are so overweight they have troubles walking, so they need a power chair. The bigger you are, the harder it is to move.
I suspect the trick is to get off your arse before you need mechanical assistance. It's not like they wake up one morning and discover that they've gained 250kg during the night.
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Sometimes that isn't always the case. I have watched medical shows about fat people and they have a medical condition about their body can't stop making fat. Every time they eat, it all goes to fat instead of how their bodies are supposed to use it. It's even bad if their body wants to be 800 pounds because their system is messed up inside them. Everyone has a system where our body wants to be a certain weight.
Another thing that can cause someone to be fat is thyroid problems. There are pills out there for it but they have to be prescribed to you. If you aren't diagnosed with that medical condition, there is no way you can help control your weight.
So therefore that's when they seek medical help but some don't seek it on time. I would guess they can't afford it. We have no free medical insurence here like you UKers do. So lot of people can't afford health insurence so they go without it.
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The big problem is that certain hospitals in the US tie themselves to a HMO and therefore will only see patients insured by that organization. Here, we have Medicare deducted from our pay (it should be a higher rate though) so that covers public hospitals. People still pay private insurance, but it's only if you want the choice of your doctor and to jump the queue. But Medicare doesn't mean free treatment either, cos there are some things you have to pay for. Still, you get some of it back.
Those morbidly obese people of the 400lb + range can't really blame their bodies so much though, because a lot of the cravings and habits would be psychological. Metabolic disorders aside, if they exercised and changed to a healthier diet, they wouldn't get that big.
Maybe when Obama gets elected people should suggest that he adopt a national health care system that covers everyone (taxpayers and welfare recipients) so that there is no need for greedy HMOs to be ripping off the system, and people to be denied help. Afterall, that's what taxes are for.
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Neighbor really needs one, she has MS and basically not much if any feeling from the waist down.
But don't look at her shoes, she usually nabs a pair of her teenage daughters.
She is a maniac in the thing, has a boy the same age as mine with ADHD, he knows better than to try and run away from her when he does something rotten, she'll catch him. The way he's going though, someone needs to paint flames on the sides of the chair and give her a nitro pack for when he hits 14. :laugh: