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Title: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: ozymandias on April 02, 2008, 05:46:35 PM
Would Dunc or Odeon please remove my name from any type of credits or association with the "Free for all" forum.   I never asked for my name to be associated with it and quite frankly I consider it an embarassment to still have my user name attached to this failure of an idea.  I'm not blaming admin., but the blame rest solely on the heads of those who have used and abused what I felt was one of the best parts of I2.  Ideally, where people could feel out their place on the forum, but, atomikdouchebag, gheyhayes, omuckashemale, etal, have ruined a potential good free speech area. 

 :finger:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Callaway on April 02, 2008, 05:49:03 PM
Would Dunc or Odeon please remove my name from any type of credits or association with the "Free for all" forum.   I never asked for my name to be associated with it and quite frankly I consider it an embarassment to still have my user name attached to this failure of an idea.  I'm not blaming admin., but the blame rest solely on the heads of those who have used and abused what I felt was one of the best parts of I2.  Ideally, where people could feel out their place on the forum, but, atomikdouchebag, gheyhayes, omuckashemale, etal, have ruined a potential good free speech area. 

 :finger:

OK, done.

Sorry that the spammers ruined this for us, Ozymandias.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: SovaNu on April 02, 2008, 05:49:40 PM
zohmygod!
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Sophgay on April 02, 2008, 05:50:41 PM
wow it's been changed already I think callaway did it.
Who's omuckashemale?
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Sophgay on April 02, 2008, 05:50:56 PM
oops, im slow replying today. my internet's fucked lol
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: SovaNu on April 02, 2008, 05:52:04 PM
omega female
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Sophgay on April 02, 2008, 05:52:43 PM
oh ok thanks. I don't think I know her
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Callaway on April 02, 2008, 05:53:13 PM
wow it's been changed already I think callaway did it.
Who's omuckashemale?


Yes, I did it. 
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Callaway on April 02, 2008, 05:54:32 PM
oh ok thanks. I don't think I know her

Here's her profile:

http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: ozymandias on April 02, 2008, 08:13:34 PM
Thanks Callaway, it's been bugging me for some time.    I take responsibility for being one of the people suggesting it, but, like everything else in life, it only takes a few assholes to trash and ruin it for everybody else.  I have enough mistakes in my life to cringe about. 
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 02, 2008, 08:20:44 PM
I thought it was a very good thing.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 03, 2008, 04:55:02 AM
I thought free speech meant supporting hearing shit you dont like?
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: thepeaguy on April 03, 2008, 06:01:40 AM
I thought free speech meant supporting hearing shit you dont like?

Likewise.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Callaway on April 03, 2008, 06:27:05 AM
I thought free speech meant supporting hearing shit you dont like?

Having real people make individual posts that others disagreed with or didn't like wasn't the problem with the Free For All, Phlexor.

There was a spammer called Atomik Psycho who would post pages and pages of spam like ATOMIKPSYCHO!!!!!!!!!!! typed over and over again.

He would make so many pages of spam that he made the forum almost impossible to use for the rest of us.

I think that he must have figured out a way to automate it.

Every time we open the Free For All to guest posts, he spams it again.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: thepeaguy on April 03, 2008, 06:32:08 AM
I thought free speech meant supporting hearing shit you dont like?

Having real people make individual posts that others disagreed with or didn't like wasn't the problem with the Free For All, Phlexor.

There was a spammer called Atomik Psycho who would post pages and pages of spam like ATOMIKPSYCHO!!!!!!!!!!! typed over and over again.

He would make so many pages of spam that he made the forum almost impossible to use for the rest of us.

I think that he must have figured out a way to automate it.

Every time we open the Free For All to guest posts, he spams it again.

And why, exactly, is that an inconvenience for the likes of me? I find it quite amusing that these boring tards have gone through all the trouble of trying to "own" this site.

The "Who's shagging Emoga?" & anti-HG drama was hilarious also.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 03, 2008, 08:15:07 AM
I agree that trying to destroy free speach isnt free speach itself... maybe. Might have to think more on that.

But something else to ponder is, the so called 'cool' clique in the autism spectrum community thinks its okay to put down the other members of the autism spectrum who are maorly socially defunct. Its not like they have any control over themselves, but it seems we like to think that they do somehow. I've done this myself.

I dunno, I dont have any answers for it, I mean they annoy the shit out of me too. But does that make me any better than those who would put us down as a group?

Man, we're fucked up.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: thepeaguy on April 03, 2008, 08:28:56 AM
Blah, blah, blah...

Man, we're fucked up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrDiW00__C4

Aren't we just.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: SovaNu on April 03, 2008, 09:13:12 AM
it's still annoying, Atomika is fun for a second but then try and actually read shit that isn't Atomika related and you get annoyed pretty quickly. :P

i agree with Phlexor, we are fucked up. but it's no different to being angry at psychopaths, it's all how we were born or molded, our brain matter organized a certain way. we're retards or not, good at something, bad at something. i'm a fucking retard but i can't blame mother nature anymore than fucking Castro can. and i of course mean the lovely Jason Castro from American Idol.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Sophgay on April 03, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
i'm fucked up and i like it
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: thepeaguy on April 03, 2008, 10:10:07 AM
i'm fucked up and i like it

Raggy Dolls, Raggy Dolls...
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 03, 2008, 09:22:53 PM
Its all about where you decide to draw the line and how you then try and justify that to yourself and perhaps others, as they probably dont give a shit anyway.

Just realise that your justifications are lame and dont try to have too much pride in them and perhaps things will be okay... somewhat
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 04, 2008, 01:23:09 PM
I thought free speech meant supporting hearing shit you dont like?

It actually means supporting the rights of other people to post stuff you don't want to hear about. You don't have to listen to it. I hope.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 04, 2008, 01:29:12 PM
And why, exactly, is that an inconvenience for the likes of me? I find it quite amusing that these boring tards have gone through all the trouble of trying to "own" this site.

The likes of you? Not sure--are you bothered by page upon page of Atomika posts if you want to browse unread posts since your last visit? Many of us are, and the Atomika posts made the site nearly unusable for every one of us.

To me, the solution is simple: ban and delete that kind of spammers, and their posts (and no, that doesn't include Cal--for all his tired bullshit, he believes he has a point). These spammers are not here to contribute to anything, they are here to disrupt, and I don't give a fuck if that upsets someone's idea of what free speech is about. I have to keep this site running, they don't.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2008, 01:32:07 PM
ahayes and atomika probably think they have a point, too.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 04, 2008, 01:32:43 PM
ahayes and atomika probably think they have a point, too.

Too bad that they aren't the ones to decide that.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2008, 01:34:38 PM
er, no: effin' good job they aren't the ones to decide that.  :laugh:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 04, 2008, 01:40:29 PM
er, no: effin' good job they aren't the ones to decide that.  :laugh:

For better or worse, the staff here decides this particular policy.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2008, 01:50:29 PM
that was my, er, point...
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 04, 2008, 07:09:44 PM
I know. :P
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 04, 2008, 07:22:01 PM
I thought free speech meant supporting hearing shit you dont like?

It actually means supporting the rights of other people to post stuff you don't want to hear about. You don't have to listen to it. I hope.


We know that you don't.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 05, 2008, 12:04:41 AM
And why, exactly, is that an inconvenience for the likes of me? I find it quite amusing that these boring tards have gone through all the trouble of trying to "own" this site.

The likes of you? Not sure--are you bothered by page upon page of Atomika posts if you want to browse unread posts since your last visit? Many of us are, and the Atomika posts made the site nearly unusable for every one of us.

To me, the solution is simple: ban and delete that kind of spammers, and their posts (and no, that doesn't include Cal--for all his tired bullshit, he believes he has a point). These spammers are not here to contribute to anything, they are here to disrupt, and I don't give a fuck if that upsets someone's idea of what free speech is about. I have to keep this site running, they don't.

Is there some sort of ignore user feature here or at least a module that can be installed? That could be a workable solution that would piss of less ppl (read calendale). I mean if said users are really wreaking shit with the forum, sure ban them, but if a simple ignore feature would work out easier, that would be better, no? I'm just making suggestions is all.

It would be like, sure ppl can say whatever the hell they want and if we need help ignoring them because the sight of them annoys us or the fact that we know we cant help outselves sometimes getting bent out of shape and responding to ppl we know we are better off ignoring. I'm just saying its worth a trial at least, of course that's if its possible or something.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: duncvis on April 05, 2008, 04:03:01 AM
i think the blabberizer mod would be better than an ignore function. and funnier.  >:D
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Lucifer on April 05, 2008, 04:04:11 AM
let's do it!  :belly:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: duncvis on April 05, 2008, 04:05:27 AM
Better talk to The O-Master. I don't work here any more. :woohoo:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Lucifer on April 05, 2008, 04:10:56 AM
oh, no - i'll have to let him do sex at me again...  ::)

sigh...
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 05, 2008, 04:13:05 AM
i think the blabberizer mod would be better than an ignore function. and funnier.  >:D

But doesnt that make all that users posts look like that to everyone?

I can see how that would be funny, but it wouldnt solve the problem.

I'm being serious about a solution to the problem, It would be better if no one wanted to do anything about to just say so in plain english so a retard like me can understand it :insane:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Lucifer on April 05, 2008, 04:13:59 AM
actually, come to think of it, how will we be able to tell cal's posts have been blabberised?
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: duncvis on April 05, 2008, 04:19:29 AM
being serious then, the ignore mod has been debated several times already - have a peek in the voting booth phlexor. in the past it was generally felt such a mod was not very intensity, but things change. might be worth starting another poll - its entirely possible that calandale shitting all over the site has changed some opinions.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 05, 2008, 04:26:23 AM
being serious then, the ignore mod has been debated several times already - have a peek in the voting booth phlexor. in the past it was generally felt such a mod was not very intensity, but things change. might be worth starting another poll - its entirely possible that calandale shitting all over the site has changed some opinions.

Agreed. I think it is one solution that solves many problems, plus it puts the power in the hands of the individual user. You can decide to use it or ignore the fact that the mod is there at all.

I'd rather that the ignore feature was forced on to us than having ppl banned cos they are disrupting the site too much and messing with the no banning ideal around here.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 05, 2008, 05:22:10 AM
Yeah, if the choice is between banning someone because that someone is an annoying twunt, and installing an ignore mod, I'd choose the latter.

EDIT: I don't think an ignore mod is "un-intense". I'm pretty sure many here would welcome the freedom such a mod can offer them.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 05, 2008, 06:22:14 AM
Yeah, if the choice is between banning someone because that someone is an annoying twunt, and installing an ignore mod, I'd choose the latter.

EDIT: I don't think an ignore mod is "un-intense". I'm pretty sure many here would welcome the freedom such a mod can offer them.

Well that way you can INTENSLY ignore someone!
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: thepeaguy on April 05, 2008, 12:41:36 PM
And why, exactly, is that an inconvenience for the likes of me? I find it quite amusing that these boring tards have gone through all the trouble of trying to "own" this site.

The likes of you? Not sure--are you bothered by page upon page of Atomika posts if you want to browse unread posts since your last visit? Many of us are, and the Atomika posts made the site nearly unusable for every one of us.


My stance is this: If they feel the need to disrupt this site by means of spamming the place, then they are weak and laughable in my eyes and hardly worth acknowledging.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 05, 2008, 12:45:38 PM
And why, exactly, is that an inconvenience for the likes of me? I find it quite amusing that these boring tards have gone through all the trouble of trying to "own" this site.

The likes of you? Not sure--are you bothered by page upon page of Atomika posts if you want to browse unread posts since your last visit? Many of us are, and the Atomika posts made the site nearly unusable for every one of us.


My stance is this: If they feel the need to disrupt this site by means of spamming the place, then they are weak and laughable in my eyes and hardly worth acknowledging.

Yes, they are weak and laughable, agreed, but there's no way I'd let their shit fuck up the site for its members.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: ozymandias on April 05, 2008, 12:46:22 PM
And why, exactly, is that an inconvenience for the likes of me? I find it quite amusing that these boring tards have gone through all the trouble of trying to "own" this site.

The likes of you? Not sure--are you bothered by page upon page of Atomika posts if you want to browse unread posts since your last visit? Many of us are, and the Atomika posts made the site nearly unusable for every one of us.


My stance is this: If they feel the need to disrupt this site by means of spamming the place, then they are weak and laughable in my eyes and hardly worth acknowledging.

QFT
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: thepeaguy on April 05, 2008, 12:48:44 PM
And why, exactly, is that an inconvenience for the likes of me? I find it quite amusing that these boring tards have gone through all the trouble of trying to "own" this site.

The likes of you? Not sure--are you bothered by page upon page of Atomika posts if you want to browse unread posts since your last visit? Many of us are, and the Atomika posts made the site nearly unusable for every one of us.


My stance is this: If they feel the need to disrupt this site by means of spamming the place, then they are weak and laughable in my eyes and hardly worth acknowledging.

Yes, they are weak and laughable, agreed, but there's no way I'd let their shit fuck up the site for its members.

Odeon, take a leaf out of Vivi's Magick Grimoire of Revenge Spells and concoct a cruel retribution which will disrupt their precious shit.

More hilarious and rewarding than just banning them.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Lucifer on April 05, 2008, 01:51:37 PM
i don't do revenge spells, silly billy - i have a more powerful wossname than that to use, which don't come back on me three times.   :evillaugh:

:witch1:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 05, 2008, 02:52:28 PM
Enough to simply keep them out of here, I think.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Pyraxis on April 05, 2008, 02:56:15 PM
i don't do revenge spells, silly billy - i have a more powerful wossname than that to use, which don't come back on me three times.   :evillaugh:

:witch1:

 :eyebrows:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Lucifer on April 05, 2008, 03:02:13 PM
 :angel:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 05, 2008, 09:41:19 PM
I am completely agnostic on the ignore mod.
Seems people essentially filter out what they
don't want to read, anyhow.

The only reason for it, IMO, would be to be
able to stick one's head even further into the
sand, and never be tempted to seeing.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 05, 2008, 10:44:52 PM
I am completely agnostic on the ignore mod.
Seems people essentially filter out what they
don't want to read, anyhow.

The only reason for it, IMO, would be to be
able to stick one's head even further into the
sand, and never be tempted to seeing.

So you would rather someone ruffle the feathers of the ruling clique, then get banned just so you have something to complain about and go "haha, those in power are abusing it, I'm better than them for pointing it out"?
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 01:08:43 AM
I am completely agnostic on the ignore mod.
Seems people essentially filter out what they
don't want to read, anyhow.

The only reason for it, IMO, would be to be
able to stick one's head even further into the
sand, and never be tempted to seeing.

So you would rather someone ruffle the feathers of the ruling clique, then get banned just so you have something to complain about and go "haha, those in power are abusing it, I'm better than them for pointing it out"?

Not even certain how what you're asking has any relevance to this
issue.

Nor am I sure, when you use the word rather, what the alternative is.

Figures, as I've seldom been able to make sense out
of your posts. But, given that you are touching on
matters of site policy, I figure I should make this effort.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 06, 2008, 04:09:14 AM
I am completely agnostic on the ignore mod.
Seems people essentially filter out what they
don't want to read, anyhow.

The only reason for it, IMO, would be to be
able to stick one's head even further into the
sand, and never be tempted to seeing.

So you would rather someone ruffle the feathers of the ruling clique, then get banned just so you have something to complain about and go "haha, those in power are abusing it, I'm better than them for pointing it out"?

Not even certain how what you're asking has any relevance to this
issue.

Nor am I sure, when you use the word rather, what the alternative is.

Figures, as I've seldom been able to make sense out
of your posts. But, given that you are touching on
matters of site policy, I figure I should make this effort.

Yeah, whatever.

But really, if someone wants to ignore someone because they annoy them or make their blood boil or whatever, why do you have to turn that around and make it a negative thing about that person by refering to it as "wanting to stick their head in the sand"?

Seems to be that you want to be able to harp on and on about something to someone without them being able to not hear you. You want to be able to trap them into your dialogue. Or you want them to be answerable to made up accusations from your detective work or that of like minded people. It's no secret that you value chaos, but that doesnt mean you get to ram it down the throats of others. I'm sure that there are a few people that treat this place and perhaps a few others as their only social outlet. If you want a handful of arseholes to be able to ruin that for someone because you think they should be made to listen to something that could be really stressing them out, good for you. How does that make you feel? Not too bad I suppose.

Funny how that things that annoy you are more important that things that annoy others that you dont happen to agree or care about.

Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: duncvis on April 06, 2008, 07:25:14 AM
 :clap:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: SovaNu on April 06, 2008, 07:34:32 AM
i think an ignore mod will just divide the board up to groups who only listen to each other and not those on their beloved ignore lists. blah.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Persona on April 06, 2008, 07:48:58 AM
I guess we could put the ignore option on trial for, let's say, a week.

I will ignore myself  :toporly:

(if I do decide to stay of course :P)
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Lucifer on April 06, 2008, 08:12:15 AM
I am completely agnostic on the ignore mod.
Seems people essentially filter out what they
don't want to read, anyhow.

The only reason for it, IMO, would be to be
able to stick one's head even further into the
sand, and never be tempted to seeing.

So you would rather someone ruffle the feathers of the ruling clique, then get banned just so you have something to complain about and go "haha, those in power are abusing it, I'm better than them for pointing it out"?

Not even certain how what you're asking has any relevance to this
issue.

Nor am I sure, when you use the word rather, what the alternative is.

Figures, as I've seldom been able to make sense out
of your posts. But, given that you are touching on
matters of site policy, I figure I should make this effort.

Yeah, whatever.

But really, if someone wants to ignore someone because they annoy them or make their blood boil or whatever, why do you have to turn that around and make it a negative thing about that person by refering to it as "wanting to stick their head in the sand"?

Seems to be that you want to be able to harp on and on about something to someone without them being able to not hear you. You want to be able to trap them into your dialogue. Or you want them to be answerable to made up accusations from your detective work or that of like minded people. It's no secret that you value chaos, but that doesnt mean you get to ram it down the throats of others. I'm sure that there are a few people that treat this place and perhaps a few others as their only social outlet. If you want a handful of arseholes to be able to ruin that for someone because you think they should be made to listen to something that could be really stressing them out, good for you. How does that make you feel? Not too bad I suppose.

Funny how that things that annoy you are more important that things that annoy others that you dont happen to agree or care about.



bloody well said.

 :plus:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 06, 2008, 08:12:36 AM
I think a trial would be good, but longer than a week, maybe a month or two. Personally, I pobably wont use it, but I'd rather someone have the option of using it instead of them either leaving of their will or being banned.

It's one of those things, I'd rather it be there and not need it over it being needed but not there.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 06, 2008, 08:15:58 AM
i think an ignore mod will just divide the board up to groups who only listen to each other and not those on their beloved ignore lists. blah.

I doubt it. I suspect most members here already read very selectively. An ignore mod would simply help them to read more efficiently.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Pyraxis on April 06, 2008, 09:15:07 AM
I don't read every thread on the board, but the ones that I'm interested in, I read the responses of every member.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 06, 2008, 11:05:56 AM
I'm pretty much the same, but there are posters I tend to ignore, too.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Lucifer on April 06, 2008, 11:28:04 AM
 :agreed:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Sophgay on April 06, 2008, 11:38:20 AM
 I tend to choose whether or not to ignore based on the subject, rather than the poster. But I do read some people's posts more than others.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 12:05:15 PM


But really, if someone wants to ignore someone because they annoy them or make their blood boil or whatever, why do you have to turn that around and make it a negative thing about that person by refering to it as "wanting to stick their head in the sand"?

Well, in the case of site related issues, it means not ever being able to understand
the full context of issues. In other cases, it might well mean hiding from attacks on
themselves, and not realizing how idiotic they are coming off.

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Seems to be that you want to be able to harp on and on about something to someone without them being able to not hear you. You want to be able to trap them into your dialogue. Or you want them to be answerable to made up accusations from your detective work or that of like minded people. It's no secret that you value chaos, but that doesnt mean you get to ram it down the throats of others. I'm sure that there are a few people that treat this place and perhaps a few others as their only social outlet. If you want a handful of arseholes to be able to ruin that for someone because you think they should be made to listen to something that could be really stressing them out, good for you. How does that make you feel? Not too bad I suppose.

As I've noted, one already need not read posts.
But, at least you can go back and see, if there is
something interesting which is referred to, if they're
not turned off - you aren't limited to half the story.
Personally, I would hate to be being attacked, WITHOUT
being able to respond; incidentally why I told Steve K that
he was coming under fire here, and should stop by to defend
himself. Bad TOM, in that case - he flipped out about being
told. :GA:

You are equating having a voice which everyone CAN read,
to forcing people to read them.

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Funny how that things that annoy you are more important that things that annoy others that you dont happen to agree or care about.

Nothing funny about it. Pretty much human nature, I think.
Now, the question of whether free speech is annoying are
not is an issue worth addressing. Hiding, and sniping it away
piece by piece, without even realizing that is what is being done
is something else entirely. Be aware of what you are destroying.


Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Pyraxis on April 06, 2008, 12:31:26 PM
I'm pretty much the same, but there are posters I tend to ignore, too.

 ??? If you're ignoring people, then you're not reading the responses of every member. How is that being the same?
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Persona on April 06, 2008, 12:36:10 PM
I read most posts.

Just don't reply to all of them.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 12:40:13 PM
I read and reply to my own posts only.
No one else makes sense.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: duncvis on April 06, 2008, 12:43:40 PM
I read and reply to my own posts only.
No one else makes sense.

that's because you're fucking delusional.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Pyraxis on April 06, 2008, 12:44:03 PM
I read and reply to my own posts only.
No one else makes sense.

Because there are no separations between your body and any other matter in existence, huh?
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 12:46:26 PM
I read and reply to my own posts only.
No one else makes sense.

Because there are no separations between your body and any other matter in existence, huh?

Sure.  :laugh:

I was just cracking a joke though.
The reality is that a tend to skim most stuff
(not games much). I post in most places that
I read.

:birdpoop:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Pyraxis on April 06, 2008, 12:56:33 PM
Because there are no separations between your body and any other matter in existence, huh?

Sure.  :laugh:

I was just cracking a joke though.

So was I.  :P
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 12:59:15 PM
Because there are no separations between your body and any other matter in existence, huh?

Sure.  :laugh:

I was just cracking a joke though.

So was I.  :P

Ah, but I hadn't even thought of that. Because,
it IS true. Not sure that my thoughts are matter though.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 06, 2008, 02:26:43 PM
I'm pretty much the same, but there are posters I tend to ignore, too.

 ??? If you're ignoring people, then you're not reading the responses of every member. How is that being the same?

*Pretty much* the same--when I read a thread, I usually read everyone's responses. The few that I don't always read are Flo (because he does my head in when he goes off on ginseng and stuff), Cal (when he goes on yet another variation of that same old tired theme), and maybe one or two others.

So "pretty much" should be interpreted as "almost", in this case. Pardon the foreigner, if the phrase doesn't fit. :P
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 04:32:19 PM
The few that I don't always read are Flo (because he does my head in when he goes off on ginseng and stuff), Cal (when he goes on yet another variation of that same old tired theme), and maybe one or two others.


Interesting that you nearly always RESPOND,
given that you don't read.

Glad that you admit it though, pathetic as it is.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: odeon on April 06, 2008, 04:55:59 PM
The few that I don't always read are Flo (because he does my head in when he goes off on ginseng and stuff), Cal (when he goes on yet another variation of that same old tired theme), and maybe one or two others.


Interesting that you nearly always RESPOND,
given that you don't read.

Glad that you admit it though, pathetic as it is.

I tend to respond to the ones where you reply to me. Disagree? Go back and look, and prove me wrong. Lazy fuck.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 05:07:57 PM
The few that I don't always read are Flo (because he does my head in when he goes off on ginseng and stuff), Cal (when he goes on yet another variation of that same old tired theme), and maybe one or two others.


Interesting that you nearly always RESPOND,
given that you don't read.

Glad that you admit it though, pathetic as it is.




I tend to respond to the ones where you reply to me. Disagree? Go back and look, and prove me wrong. Lazy fuck.

No. I think you're largely right there.
IF I disagreed, I wouldn't bother, it's
not that important. Remember, this is
only an internet site.

But, the point is that you don't usually read
what I say, in response - not what you are
responding to.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Scrapheap on April 06, 2008, 05:09:22 PM
I like turtules.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 05:14:49 PM
I like turtules.

Taking up the tactics of the clique in power here?
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Scrapheap on April 06, 2008, 07:27:23 PM
I like turtules.

Taking up the tactics of the clique in power here?

I thought that would be more like yor style.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 07:57:20 PM
I like turtules.

Taking up the tactics of the clique in power here?

I thought that would be more like yor style.

Nah. I'm not a quick learner.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Scrapheap on April 06, 2008, 08:03:22 PM
I like turtules.

Taking up the tactics of the clique in power here?

I thought that would be more like yor style.

Nah. I'm not a quick learner.

getting old??
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 08:04:34 PM
I like turtules.

Taking up the tactics of the clique in power here?

I thought that would be more like yor style.

Nah. I'm not a quick learner.

getting old??

I was old before you were born.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Scrapheap on April 06, 2008, 08:12:36 PM
I like turtules.

Taking up the tactics of the clique in power here?

I thought that would be more like yor style.

Nah. I'm not a quick learner.

getting old??

I was old before you were born.

I could crack a joke at your expense, or disagree... I'm 36, not much younger than you.


Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 08:17:35 PM
Tell that to social security.  :(
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Scrapheap on April 06, 2008, 08:20:15 PM
Tell that to social security.  :(

I thought you were in your early 40's
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 08:21:12 PM
That's what they SHOULD think.
I have no idea how they're tracking me
down, but I gotta fix it.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 06, 2008, 08:24:46 PM


But really, if someone wants to ignore someone because they annoy them or make their blood boil or whatever, why do you have to turn that around and make it a negative thing about that person by refering to it as "wanting to stick their head in the sand"?

Well, in the case of site related issues, it means not ever being able to understand
the full context of issues. In other cases, it might well mean hiding from attacks on
themselves, and not realizing how idiotic they are coming off.

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Seems to be that you want to be able to harp on and on about something to someone without them being able to not hear you. You want to be able to trap them into your dialogue. Or you want them to be answerable to made up accusations from your detective work or that of like minded people. It's no secret that you value chaos, but that doesnt mean you get to ram it down the throats of others. I'm sure that there are a few people that treat this place and perhaps a few others as their only social outlet. If you want a handful of arseholes to be able to ruin that for someone because you think they should be made to listen to something that could be really stressing them out, good for you. How does that make you feel? Not too bad I suppose.

As I've noted, one already need not read posts.
But, at least you can go back and see, if there is
something interesting which is referred to, if they're
not turned off - you aren't limited to half the story.
Personally, I would hate to be being attacked, WITHOUT
being able to respond; incidentally why I told Steve K that
he was coming under fire here, and should stop by to defend
himself. Bad TOM, in that case - he flipped out about being
told. :GA:

You are equating having a voice which everyone CAN read,
to forcing people to read them.

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Funny how that things that annoy you are more important that things that annoy others that you dont happen to agree or care about.

Nothing funny about it. Pretty much human nature, I think.
Now, the question of whether free speech is annoying are
not is an issue worth addressing. Hiding, and sniping it away
piece by piece, without even realizing that is what is being done
is something else entirely. Be aware of what you are destroying.




I dont see how having an ignore mod is destroying free speech. And do I have to point out how that is just insane?

The thing is, if its human nature to care about only about those things which annoy on themselves, why am I suggesting an ignore mod if I will never use it personally? Is that because I'm caring about a problem that might annoy others? How does that fit?

And so what if someone is hiding from attacks and looking idiotic? Why are YOU concerned about someone looking idiotic? If that were true, you'd stop posting about the evil plans of others when you see a vague pattern of behaviour.

I think if someone used an ignore mod, they would be fully aware that they wouldnt be getting the whole story, or maybe that the person that they are ignoring isnt really contributing anything to the story in the first place, in their opinion of course.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 06, 2008, 08:38:52 PM


I dont see how having an ignore mod is destroying free speech.

Good, because neither do I.

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And do I have to point out how that is just insane?

What? You have to point out what 'that' refers to, in this case.
(I'm feeling like Bubba here)

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I think if someone used an ignore mod, they would be fully aware that they wouldnt be getting the whole story, or maybe that the person that they are ignoring isnt really contributing anything to the story in the first place, in their opinion of course.

Fair enough. They should certainly recuse themselves from
site issues then.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 07, 2008, 12:26:54 AM
I think if someone used an ignore mod, they would be fully aware that they wouldnt be getting the whole story, or maybe that the person that they are ignoring isnt really contributing anything to the story in the first place, in their opinion of course.

Fair enough. They should certainly recuse themselves from
site issues then.


I don't see why.

But I think the real issue here is that YOU dont want to be ignored.

Do you have a habbit of FORCING yourself onto others?

Just think about it, all the people who wont put you on ignore might actually want to listen to you.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Callaway on April 07, 2008, 12:31:58 AM
I think if someone used an ignore mod, they would be fully aware that they wouldnt be getting the whole story, or maybe that the person that they are ignoring isnt really contributing anything to the story in the first place, in their opinion of course.

Fair enough. They should certainly recuse themselves from
site issues then.


I don't see why.

But I think the real issue here is that YOU dont want to be ignored.

Do you have a habbit of FORCING yourself onto others?


Yes he does.  He raped and physically assaulted one woman, for example.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Lucifer on April 07, 2008, 12:33:33 AM
I think if someone used an ignore mod, they would be fully aware that they wouldnt be getting the whole story, or maybe that the person that they are ignoring isnt really contributing anything to the story in the first place, in their opinion of course.

Fair enough. They should certainly recuse themselves from
site issues then.


I don't see why.

But I think the real issue here is that YOU dont want to be ignored.

Do you have a habbit of FORCING yourself onto others?


yes he has, lord phlexor - he's a rapist.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 12:34:16 AM
I think if someone used an ignore mod, they would be fully aware that they wouldnt be getting the whole story, or maybe that the person that they are ignoring isnt really contributing anything to the story in the first place, in their opinion of course.

Fair enough. They should certainly recuse themselves from
site issues then.


I don't see why.

Because it sucks to have the ignorant in control.

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But I think the real issue here is that YOU dont want to be ignored.

Do you have a habbit of FORCING yourself onto others?

 :clap: Excellent cheap shot.

To answer it though, it depends. In arenas where I can
make my voice heard, I do. In those in which I have difficulties,
I use other means, such as my dress - usually they must work very
hard to ignore me.

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Just think about it, all the people who wont put you on ignore might actually want to listen to you.

What does that matter?

And, this is not just about me. Others would be put on ignore.
I might have done so to ahayes, and not realized what an
injustice was served.

Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: duncvis on April 07, 2008, 01:33:40 AM
ahayes had absolutely nothing to contribute, other than deliberately annoying spam. how would putting him on ignore be serving an injustice? Mind you, the same could be said of you lately.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 03:51:51 AM
ahayes had absolutely nothing to contribute, other than deliberately annoying spam. how would putting him on ignore be serving an injustice? Mind you, the same could be said of you lately.

 :laugh:

I didn't mean not reading his crap.
I meant when you banned him. If everyone
was ignoring, how would they know why he
was getting under your skin.

Incidentally, he's pulling the same with me.
I wish to hell Milla hadn't invited him back.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: SovaNu on April 07, 2008, 05:22:15 AM
aw why?
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 07, 2008, 05:27:30 AM
Go there and see.
I finally took my hopes
for the place, and laid my
grievance out according to
them.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 08, 2008, 02:04:10 AM
I think if someone used an ignore mod, they would be fully aware that they wouldnt be getting the whole story, or maybe that the person that they are ignoring isnt really contributing anything to the story in the first place, in their opinion of course.

Fair enough. They should certainly recuse themselves from
site issues then.


I don't see why.

Because it sucks to have the ignorant in control.

The thing is, in reality, nobody is perfect. So basicly these so called people in control who you wouldnt have a problem with either dont exist or follow a set of guidelines that YOU decide.

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But I think the real issue here is that YOU dont want to be ignored.

Do you have a habbit of FORCING yourself onto others?

 :clap: Excellent cheap shot.

To answer it though, it depends. In arenas where I can
make my voice heard, I do. In those in which I have difficulties,
I use other means, such as my dress - usually they must work very
hard to ignore me.
Yeah sure, it could be seen as a cheap shot, or it could be seen as an underlying drive of your personality. Either you like it or its getting you in to trouble. No means no, and ignore means Im not listening if you didn't understand no the first time.
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Just think about it, all the people who wont put you on ignore might actually want to listen to you.

What does that matter?

And, this is not just about me. Others would be put on ignore.
I might have done so to ahayes, and not realized what an
injustice was served.



Don't you get it, had an ignore mod been installed back then, perhaps he wouldnt have been banned. Maybe useless spammers like him would have givin up said useless spamming if they knew that they werent being heard because of them being ignored by those who would have been annoyed by them in the past.
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Calandale on April 08, 2008, 05:06:56 PM
I think if someone used an ignore mod, they would be fully aware that they wouldnt be getting the whole story, or maybe that the person that they are ignoring isnt really contributing anything to the story in the first place, in their opinion of course.

Fair enough. They should certainly recuse themselves from
site issues then.


I don't see why.

Because it sucks to have the ignorant in control.

The thing is, in reality, nobody is perfect. So basicly these so called people in control who you wouldnt have a problem with either dont exist or follow a set of guidelines that YOU decide.

Lemme guess: another aussie, who thinks it's correct that everyone
should be forced to vote, even if they're completely oblivious to
all politics?

I guess that what one is used to influence one so very much.
Hell, those from the US seem to think it's their fucking duty
to vote, and many feel guilty, though they aren't bothering to
learn about what they're voting on. At least they're usually too
lazy though - except where voting by mail is allowed.

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Yeah sure, it could be seen as a cheap shot, or it could be seen as an underlying drive of your personality. Either you like it or its getting you in to trouble. No means no, and ignore means Im not listening if you didn't understand no the first time.
Big difference. I SEE the wrong in
taking an action against someone. On the other hand, blocking out information about political issues, yet still acting informed is completely
unreasonable.


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Don't you get it, had an ignore mod been installed back then, perhaps he wouldnt have been banned. Maybe useless spammers like him would have givin up said useless spamming if they knew that they werent being heard because of them being ignored by those who would have been annoyed by them in the past.

Aha! So you, at least, think that Ahayes was banned for his spamming?
Yet, you don't see that this would be completely in opposition to free
speech here?
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: renaeden on April 09, 2008, 05:37:00 AM
Lemme guess: another aussie, who thinks it's correct that everyone
should be forced to vote, even if they're completely oblivious to
all politics?
If someone goes the the polling booth and they don't understand who to vote for, they can always make a new category. "The Easter Bunny" or "the bloke down the road" or something.
 :green:
Title: Re: I am disassociating myself from this section of I2.
Post by: Phlexor on April 09, 2008, 06:07:29 AM
I think if someone used an ignore mod, they would be fully aware that they wouldnt be getting the whole story, or maybe that the person that they are ignoring isnt really contributing anything to the story in the first place, in their opinion of course.

Fair enough. They should certainly recuse themselves from
site issues then.


I don't see why.

Because it sucks to have the ignorant in control.

The thing is, in reality, nobody is perfect. So basicly these so called people in control who you wouldnt have a problem with either dont exist or follow a set of guidelines that YOU decide.

Lemme guess: another aussie, who thinks it's correct that everyone
should be forced to vote, even if they're completely oblivious to
all politics?


Yeah I'm an aussie, but I don't vote and I dont agree that we are forced to vote, so Im not registered to vote. Means I have to dodge the morons who come to the door around voting time to make sure you are registered. I havent voted for anything in over 15 years.

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I guess that what one is used to influence one so very much.
Hell, those from the US seem to think it's their fucking duty
to vote, and many feel guilty, though they aren't bothering to
learn about what they're voting on. At least they're usually too
lazy though - except where voting by mail is allowed.

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Yeah sure, it could be seen as a cheap shot, or it could be seen as an underlying drive of your personality. Either you like it or its getting you in to trouble. No means no, and ignore means Im not listening if you didn't understand no the first time.
Big difference. I SEE the wrong in
taking an action against someone. On the other hand, blocking out information about political issues, yet still acting informed is completely
unreasonable.

Well thats the thing isnt it, if someone has something important to say, then why the fuck would they be annoying or try to fuck shit up or whatever.
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Don't you get it, had an ignore mod been installed back then, perhaps he wouldnt have been banned. Maybe useless spammers like him would have givin up said useless spamming if they knew that they werent being heard because of them being ignored by those who would have been annoyed by them in the past.

Aha! So you, at least, think that Ahayes was banned for his spamming?
Yet, you don't see that this would be completely in opposition to free
speech here?

You know what, I dont know why he was banned, and I dont care. I'm sure according to you that means I shouldnt have a say in anything but that just like your opinion man.