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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: AspiePride on February 23, 2008, 01:37:40 PM

Title: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 23, 2008, 01:37:40 PM
Who thinks scotland should be independent  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: The_P on February 23, 2008, 01:38:46 PM
Who thinks scotland should be independent  :zoinks:

Eamonn.

Who the fuck is he? A former Intensity addict.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 23, 2008, 01:40:10 PM
Who thinks scotland should be independent  :zoinks:

Eamonn.

Who the fuck is he? A former Intensity addict.

I never new this was an aspie only forum
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Peter on February 23, 2008, 01:52:13 PM
Independence worked out pretty well for Ireland, and their economy's doing great these days.  I doubt we could do much worse as an independent country than as part of the UK; we're already the armpit of northern Europe, and there's only room for improvement.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 23, 2008, 01:53:47 PM
Independence worked out pretty well for Ireland, and their economy's doing great these days.  I doubt we could do much worse as an independent country than as part of the UK; we're already the armpit of northern Europe, and there's only room for improvement.

Yep i agree the UK sucks ass
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Kosmonaut on February 23, 2008, 01:56:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5afCwO8JxP4
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: SovaNu on February 23, 2008, 01:56:43 PM
UK doesn't suck. omg the fish landed on UK's shores, the one that can eat people and crawl on land. wtf man
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 23, 2008, 01:58:02 PM
You have never lived in it to no
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: SovaNu on February 23, 2008, 01:59:48 PM
lived in what?
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 23, 2008, 02:00:21 PM
scotland or the uk
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: The_P on February 23, 2008, 02:02:12 PM
lived in what?

Been part of the UK.

I couldn't really give a shit. Borders change, etc, so I highly doubt that either Scotland and England will exist in a 1,000 years.


Anyway, the reason why Scotland has been colonised so much by wankers was because the Scottish nobility fucked its people over.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 23, 2008, 02:03:13 PM
Role on airstrip 1  :police:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on February 23, 2008, 02:21:59 PM
Who thinks scotland should be independent  :zoinks:

I do.

I'm Scotch-Irish, the thought of being able to move back is attractive.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 23, 2008, 02:24:38 PM
Who thinks scotland should be independent  :zoinks:

I do.

I'm Scotch-Irish, the thought of being able to move back is attractive.

Should have made a poll
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Pyraxis on February 23, 2008, 02:25:03 PM
I never new this was an aspie only forum

Well technically anyone can post, since we don't ban (except one spammer, I believe), but I'm not sure there's much of interest here to people who aren't on the autistic spectrum, since they don't tend to come or stick around.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 23, 2008, 02:32:54 PM
one day we will rule the world  :evillaugh:  :lol:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on February 23, 2008, 02:33:37 PM
one day we will rule the world  :evillaugh:  :lol:
:indeed:

Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 23, 2008, 02:38:47 PM
well all the NT's are autism there genes have fucked up  :green:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Callaway on February 23, 2008, 02:42:31 PM
I never new this was an aspie only forum

Well technically anyone can post, since we don't ban (except one spammer, I believe), but I'm not sure there's much of interest here to people who aren't on the autistic spectrum, since they don't tend to come or stick around.

Hypnotica Gaze is NT and she stuck around for a while, but she is gone now.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: The_P on February 23, 2008, 03:06:43 PM
I never new this was an aspie only forum

Well technically anyone can post, since we don't ban (except one spammer, I believe), but I'm not sure there's much of interest here to people who aren't on the autistic spectrum, since they don't tend to come or stick around.

Hypnotica Gaze is NT and she stuck around for a while, but she is gone now.

And there was Corey, a mate of mine, and that lezzer friend of Soph's.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on February 23, 2008, 03:51:29 PM
What about PMSElle, she is NT is she not?
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: richard on February 23, 2008, 04:11:31 PM
i do. england fucking sucks
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 23, 2008, 04:23:25 PM
i do. england fucking sucks

I agree  :green:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: SovaNu on February 23, 2008, 04:41:55 PM
Hypno was NT?
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Pyraxis on February 23, 2008, 04:48:37 PM
Hypnotica Gaze is NT and she stuck around for a while, but she is gone now.

An NT friend of mine registered once, but got blasted for his grammar (he's dyslexic) and took off.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Callaway on February 23, 2008, 06:14:25 PM
Hypnotica Gaze is NT and she stuck around for a while, but she is gone now.

An NT friend of mine registered once, but got blasted for his grammar (he's dyslexic) and took off.

Who was he?

Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: richard on February 23, 2008, 06:17:24 PM
theres alot of poeple who dont post here anymore. what ever happend to that one girl avian?
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Sophgay on February 23, 2008, 06:22:39 PM
avian's male (if it's the same avian from zomg)
i haven't seen him for quite a while
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Callaway on February 23, 2008, 06:26:26 PM
theres alot of poeple who dont post here anymore. what ever happend to that one girl avian?

Aevalone?  I don't know why she stopped posting.  I just checked her old posts and she said that she was "going through a very meh phase and don't post much anymore."
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Peter on February 23, 2008, 06:49:41 PM
theres alot of poeple who dont post here anymore. what ever happend to that one girl avian?

Probably either got a life or topped herself.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: richard on February 23, 2008, 06:50:26 PM
theres alot of poeple who dont post here anymore. what ever happend to that one girl avian?
Aevalone?  I don't know why she stopped posting.  I just checked her old posts and she said that she was "going through a very meh phase and don't post much anymore."
yes her. thanks, she seemed cool i think she was one of the first people to talk to me when i joined :)
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Pyraxis on February 23, 2008, 09:41:13 PM
Who was he?

dragon2fire. Actually I think it must have been WP, because I did a username search and can't find him. It was a long time ago.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: ASpHole on February 23, 2008, 11:11:09 PM
Who thinks scotland should be independent  :zoinks:

I do.

I'm Scotch-Irish, the thought of being able to move back is attractive.

Actually, you wouldn't be granted the right of return if your family had been here in the US over three generations. --That's the way it works with a lot of the EU countries, and I could see Scotland conforming to that.

OTOH< Peter, Ireland might be doing quite well currently considering the fact that they are essentially the EU's version of Silicon Vallley, as the Republic invested heavily in recruiting high tech business, and it finally paid off in the 90's. However, I remember the dark days of the 70's and 80's when a lot of Irish people were coming over here to the US, ( From both the Republic and N. Ireland) because they were really bad off in finding anything to do back home. -- Of course a lot of the ones from N. Ireland had the double reason of the troubles as well.

Still, Scottish Independance is a nice thing in theory, however I think that it even if it were to happen, it might not be a good thing for Scottish people as a whole, or it might simply be rather redundant because of the fact that it would still be a member state of the EU.

Somewhat similar to what would happen if the Western part of North Carolina decided to secede from the rest of North Carolina and become it's own state.  You'd have a new capitol, your own local Tax scheme, a new constitution, (That would conform to EU guidelines, much the same way that US state constitutions conform to our national Constitution) and perhaps in the case of Scotland, you'd adopt the Euro as your new currency, but other than that, what would really change?
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 24, 2008, 04:59:01 AM
Alot in my appion. Having a smaller population means greater distribution of wealth equals greater equality better and wiser investment in social policy. That in the UK are just not possible or financially viable.

I don't worry about the economy as much as the irish where nothing but farmers till about 10-15 years ago when they started to slash corporation tax. Scotland has vast resources and has one of the largest financial sectors in the world for a start.

So we have alot to start building an idependent country on  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: ASpHole on February 24, 2008, 07:04:34 AM
Alot in my appion. Having a smaller population means greater distribution of wealth equals greater equality better and wiser investment in social policy. That in the UK are just not possible or financially viable.

I don't worry about the economy as much as the irish where nothing but farmers till about 10-15 years ago when they started to slash corporation tax. Scotland has vast resources and has one of the largest financial sectors in the world for a start.

So we have alot to start building an idependent country on  :thumbup:

Unfortunately, you also have to field and equip at least a home defence force, possibly a full Army, Navy, and Air Force, as well as intelligence services which would be a big financial burden. Ireland never really had any enemies after it freed itself from British occupation in the early 20th century, therefore they never really needed to develop much in the way of Armed Forces. Scotland OTOH, because of it's greater Autonomy in the UK may have a harder time of washing it's hands of the enemies of the UK, so may have the need of a larger armed forces.

Still though, I think that Scotland, Divested of it's membership in the UK might still be redundant, as Scotland would most likely be a member state in the EU, as would England and Wales. --Don't get me wrong, an independant Scotland sounds like a good idea, however would it still be much differant than having greater autonomy in the framework of the UK?

As an American, I see the EU as being essentially like the United States of Europe, or perhaps more rightly as a confederation of States, rather than a federalist republic. So Scotland divesting itself of the UK seems about as redundant to me as say western North Carolina separating itself from Eastern North Carolina.

Or another Parellel being the split of Czechoslovakia into the Czech and Slovak Republics. The Czech Republic seems to be doing rather well, whilst the Slovak Republic less so. Pertaining to Scotland separating from the UK, I would  be concerned that Scotland would not do as well on it's own, as compared to it is as a part of the UK. --That would be my foremost concern.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 25, 2008, 04:50:56 AM
The RAF still patrol the skies around dublin in ireland. You think iceland or norway has a huge navy or army.

I don't think defence is a big issue  :police:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Peter on February 25, 2008, 05:36:50 AM
Can't we just threaten to set the Neds on anyone who pisses us off?
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: SovaNu on February 25, 2008, 05:40:24 AM
You have never lived in it to no

i lived there for a few months is that enough? :P
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: SovaNu on February 25, 2008, 05:47:12 AM
i also see EU as the united states of europe. USE. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Peter on February 25, 2008, 06:27:10 AM
I wonder if the EU will have a civil war when the southern states secede.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: AspiePride on February 25, 2008, 07:26:45 AM
Can't we just threaten to set the Neds on anyone who pisses us off?

 :plus:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Semicolon on July 11, 2014, 02:07:18 PM
Bumped for the vote. :viking:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: postpaleo on July 11, 2014, 05:52:04 PM
Who thinks scotland should be independent  :zoinks:

Probably someone from Scotland, the rest don't matter?
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Semicolon on July 11, 2014, 06:31:59 PM
Who thinks scotland should be independent  :zoinks:

Probably someone from Scotland, the rest don't matter?

:welcome:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: postpaleo on July 11, 2014, 08:36:08 PM
Oh dude, I met a guy from the blogosphere, like few others, hung out for a while, because we had other things in common. Had nothing, really to do with him and his most excellent political views. I owe him, just for being a hellava nice guy. He is all independence and all the problems it might, or might not, create. It was, one of the most... interesting sites I have ever been at, and I didn't understand half of it. For me, their politics are boring, but I'm not really a Scott, just the Sire name, and anymore, it too, is boring. I'm tired of geopolitical crap, tell me why it might matter. Show me, where, geopolitical works?
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Semicolon on July 11, 2014, 08:58:33 PM
Oh dude, I met a guy from the blogosphere, like few others, hung out for a while, because we had other things in common. Had nothing, really to do with him and his most excellent political views. I owe him, just for being a hellava nice guy. He is all independence and all the problems it might, or might not, create. It was, one of the most... interesting sites I have ever been at, and I didn't understand half of it. For me, their politics are boring, but I'm not really a Scott, just the Sire name, and anymore, it too, is boring. I'm tired of geopolitical crap, tell me why it might matter. Show me, where, geopolitical works?

What? ???
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: postpaleo on July 11, 2014, 09:17:39 PM
I said, the guy I met has been Scott Indiapedances (sp), since it started and, attracts some of the best thinkers on the matter, although I don't understand, yet, why any of them put up with any of it. Sort of like thinking there was a Tory side to the American Revolution, there was, and no one cares to understand why.

Your question mark was almost as puzzling to me. Took me forever to think of where a question might be. Wasn't really my point, but I'll say it again, my kin came to this country (some of them) in chains. My sire name is Scott.

if this keeps up, I will cry, and then I will play bag pipes. Opps, the other way a round ;p
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: postpaleo on July 11, 2014, 09:33:55 PM
What should be more upsetting, is not Scotland, but the simple fact of the Emancipation Proclamation was never fully enacted, on a Federal Level, till the day after Pearl Harbor. Let that be known, I fucking dare you.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Semicolon on July 11, 2014, 09:52:50 PM
What should be more upsetting, is not Scotland, but the simple fact of the Emancipation Proclamation was never fully enacted, on a Federal Level, till the day after Pearl Harbor. Let that be known, I fucking dare you.

Why would it matter, when the Thirteenth Amendment was enacted in 1865?
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: postpaleo on July 11, 2014, 10:55:28 PM
why? because they didn't enforce it.

it wasn't enforced until after the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor, the question is why? because of the propaganda shit, they didn't want adverse crap coming back at the States
 Roosevelt, told the Justice dept. to crack down on old Jim crow, for the first time ever.

Which, started, to end the black man isn't going to be home for the black baby, but still hasn't ended. It wasn't that along ago,. You can't end shit like that over night, you can't write it out existence. It has a history, that should not end over night. no, it did not end with the freedom shit, still hasn't. when did the Japs hit Pearl? it only started, the next day.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Semicolon on July 12, 2014, 06:49:57 PM
why? because they didn't enforce it.

it wasn't enforced until after the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor, the question is why? because of the propaganda shit, they didn't want adverse crap coming back at the States
 Roosevelt, told the Justice dept. to crack down on old Jim crow, for the first time ever.

Which, started, to end the black man isn't going to be home for the black baby, but still hasn't ended. It wasn't that along ago,. You can't end shit like that over night, you can't write it out existence. It has a history, that should not end over night. no, it did not end with the freedom shit, still hasn't. when did the Japs hit Pearl? it only started, the next day.

What are you talking about? :dunno:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Parts on July 12, 2014, 07:05:37 PM
why? because they didn't enforce it.

it wasn't enforced until after the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor, the question is why? because of the propaganda shit, they didn't want adverse crap coming back at the States
 Roosevelt, told the Justice dept. to crack down on old Jim crow, for the first time ever.

Which, started, to end the black man isn't going to be home for the black baby, but still hasn't ended. It wasn't that along ago,. You can't end shit like that over night, you can't write it out existence. It has a history, that should not end over night. no, it did not end with the freedom shit, still hasn't. when did the Japs hit Pearl? it only started, the next day.

What are you talking about? :dunno:

Who knows,  here's some boobs to get the thread back on track :zoinks:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a397/DorkiDorri/boobs_zps2e517bc0.jpg)
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: "couldbecousin" on July 12, 2014, 07:13:32 PM
  A guy in a kilt is always relevant in such discussions!  :kilt:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Semicolon on July 12, 2014, 11:10:59 PM
  A guy in a kilt is always relevant in such discussions!  :kilt:

Then where is Piper? ^.o

why? because they didn't enforce it.

it wasn't enforced until after the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor, the question is why? because of the propaganda shit, they didn't want adverse crap coming back at the States
 Roosevelt, told the Justice dept. to crack down on old Jim crow, for the first time ever.

Which, started, to end the black man isn't going to be home for the black baby, but still hasn't ended. It wasn't that along ago,. You can't end shit like that over night, you can't write it out existence. It has a history, that should not end over night. no, it did not end with the freedom shit, still hasn't. when did the Japs hit Pearl? it only started, the next day.

What are you talking about? :dunno:

Who knows,  here's some boobs to get the thread back on track :zoinks:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a397/DorkiDorri/boobs_zps2e517bc0.jpg)

:bounce:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Jack on July 13, 2014, 08:33:46 AM
Then where is Piper? ^.o
He should come back.
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Semicolon on July 13, 2014, 03:12:02 PM
Then where is Piper? ^.o
He should come back.

:M
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Gopher Gary on July 13, 2014, 07:12:34 PM
Then where is Piper? ^.o
He should come back.

:M

 :hahaha:
Title: Re: Scottish Idependence
Post by: Semicolon on July 14, 2014, 05:48:31 AM
Then where is Piper? ^.o
He should come back.

:M

 :hahaha:

:spaz: