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Title: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Natalia Evans on February 18, 2008, 04:32:42 PM
Early early this morning, one of my aspie buddies and I were chatting and we were talking about aspie forums and he said he doesn't go to them because all they do is bitch and moan about their condition and about how bad NTs are to them. I told him they don't do it here because it's not a support forum.

I used to see that a lot when I was 17 and 18 and because I got tired of it, I lost interest in the places and left. I was tired of them making excuses about their condition and refusing to try and cope and change by learning how to adapt by working on skills like flexibility. I even realized they wanted special rules too. I know lot of us here are tired of that.

Anyone agree the aspies forums are still like that?



Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Sophgay on February 18, 2008, 04:52:18 PM
WP is full of crap like that
From what I've seen, AFF seems to be the worst though
It annoys me
Some people with AS are assholes, some NTs are good people. Blaming NTs for everything is stupid. I used to do that, when I first found out I had AS. Then I realised what a twat I was. Actually, still am, but not as bad :P
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Natalia Evans on February 18, 2008, 05:01:39 PM
WP is full of crap like that
From what I've seen, AFF seems to be the worst though
It annoys me
Some people with AS are assholes, some NTs are good people. Blaming NTs for everything is stupid. I used to do that, when I first found out I had AS. Then I realised what a twat I was. Actually, still am, but not as bad :P


I agree. I am just a guilty as they are because I did the same thing when I was in my teens. I wanted special rules, special treatment, thought I could get special rules simply because I saw that a lot growing up and now I was seeing it online about autism. I realize now that bullying isn't an NT thing, it's human but I still play that card just to piss them off even though I know they aren't NT but say it anyway to get them all riled up. I still will point out they are giving me the same crap NTs gave me since so many of them complain about how bad NTs are but they turn around and do it themselves.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Sophgay on February 18, 2008, 05:04:33 PM
WP is full of crap like that
From what I've seen, AFF seems to be the worst though
It annoys me
Some people with AS are assholes, some NTs are good people. Blaming NTs for everything is stupid. I used to do that, when I first found out I had AS. Then I realised what a twat I was. Actually, still am, but not as bad :P


I agree. I am just a guilty as they are because I did the same thing when I was in my teens. I wanted special rules, special treatment, thought I could get special rules simply because I saw that a lot growing up and now I was seeing it online about autism. I realize now that bullying isn't an NT thing, it's human but I still play that card just to piss them off even though I know they aren't NT but say it anyway to get them all riled up. I still will point out they are giving me the same crap NTs gave me since so many of them complain about how bad NTs are but they turn around and do it themselves.
Yeah I think a lot of people with AS get like that when they're younger, or when they first get diagnosed. Not all, but quite a lot I've seen. It's probably a reaction to bullying by people who did happen to be NT in school etc. As long as we grow out of that attitude and realise it was wrong though, I don't think it matters. Problem is, a lot of people on those sites carry on with the anti-NT stuff all the time. And never accept that they might be wrong.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Natalia Evans on February 18, 2008, 05:16:56 PM
I find it acceptable in kids and teens but when grown ups do it, it's disgusting.

Not saying it's okay for kids to use their disability as an excuse, they just don't know any better so a grown up needs to step in and teach them having a disability doesn't give them any excuses. Thats one of the reasons why some parents don't even tell their kids at a young age they have a condition. They might wait till they're in their teens or adult to tell them or some find out on their own and then their parents tell them.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: ozymandias on February 18, 2008, 05:57:59 PM
I got tired of a lot of the NT bashing going on in other forums.  After awhile it just gets old.  Yeah, a little bitching is good for the soul, but to continually blame others for your problems is not the way to solve problems.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Parts on February 18, 2008, 05:58:15 PM
"Oh poor me I'm an aswipe why can't normal people accept me like I am they are so mean...."

Yeah I know what you mean
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Calandale on February 18, 2008, 06:02:46 PM
Had a kinda funny RL situation shedding light on it all.
While saying goodbye to a band I love, I asked them
to come out to breakfast. They all came, and it
was really sweet. But, I realized that I probably
could have hung out with them before, and
become friends - real friends, if only I hadn't
remained so damned aloof.

We have to make some effort too.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Kosmonaut on February 18, 2008, 06:16:46 PM

Anyone agree the aspies forums are still like that?


Basically yes.
It's a lot easier to blame other people than to take responsibility for ones own predicament.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Natalia Evans on February 18, 2008, 06:27:23 PM

Anyone agree the aspies forums are still like that?


Basically yes.
It's a lot easier to blame other people than to take responsibility for ones own predicament.



Timelord sounds like to be that kind of person. It's easier for him to blame his problems on NTs.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on February 18, 2008, 06:30:36 PM

Anyone agree the aspies forums are still like that?


Basically yes.
It's a lot easier to blame other people than to take responsibility for ones own predicament.



Timelord sounds like to be that kind of person. It's easier for him to blame his problems on NTs.

That's probably quaterfag.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: DirtDawg on February 18, 2008, 06:35:34 PM

I'm going to bitch about my condition, now.

I have sat in this fucking chair so long this afternoon, that I can't tell where my ass ends and the chair starts. I think that my fucking chair is actually going numb. I'm going to get up, scratch my chair a bit and try to find out what I can do to change this, before my ass also begins to take on the shape of my chair.

Why is it always the crack of the chair that itches the worst?

:GA:
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Calandale on February 18, 2008, 06:49:25 PM
You need to oil your chair's crack.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Kosmonaut on February 18, 2008, 08:17:31 PM

I'm going to bitch about my condition, now.

I have sat in this fucking chair so long this afternoon, that I can't tell where my ass ends and the chair starts. I think that my fucking chair is actually going numb. I'm going to get up, scratch my chair a bit and try to find out what I can do to change this, before my ass also begins to take on the shape of my chair.

Why is it always the crack of the chair that itches the worst?

:GA:

Get your fucking ass off that chair Dawg!!
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: El on February 19, 2008, 08:03:55 AM
Many many :plus:s to those on this thread.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Calandale on February 19, 2008, 08:11:52 AM
punplustic
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: richard on February 19, 2008, 11:54:48 AM
why do you ask so many questions?
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Natalia Evans on February 19, 2008, 02:14:17 PM
why do you ask so many questions?


Because I'm an idiot  :lol:
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: richard on February 19, 2008, 02:19:36 PM
you hit the nail on the head, no im not actually talking about hitting a nail with a hammer
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: The_P on February 19, 2008, 02:20:06 PM
why do you ask so many questions?


Because I'm an idiot  :lol:

Questioning things leads to greater understanding.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: richard on February 19, 2008, 02:22:06 PM
thanks, socrates. to leave or not to leave that is the question
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on February 19, 2008, 02:59:28 PM
Finnally, now if you guys would stop making excuses for alcohol and related problems...

That would turn me on :wanker:
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: DirtDawg on February 19, 2008, 03:12:55 PM
why do you ask so many questions?


Because I'm an idiot  :lol:

Questioning things leads to greater understanding.

Reverse is also true.

Understanding things leads to greater questions.

:D
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: DirtDawg on February 19, 2008, 03:16:13 PM
Finnally, now if you guys would stop making excuses for alcohol and related problems...

That would turn me on :wanker:

Maybe we are a little scared to turn you on, Randy.

"DUCK!"

"That's no duck. It's CHICKEN!"

Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on February 19, 2008, 03:18:51 PM
Finnally, now if you guys would stop making excuses for alcohol and related problems...

That would turn me on :wanker:

Maybe we are a little scared to turn you on, Randy.

"DUCK!"

"That's no duck. It's CHICKEN!"



Excuses excuses :laugh:
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Natalia Evans on February 19, 2008, 03:19:01 PM
Yes, reasons why I ask questions is because I want to understand something, make sure I understand something, want to hear someone's thought or opinion, want to see what they say, see if they have the right answer, make sure I am right about something. I may even ask questions about someone so I would know more about them.  Sometimes I even ask questions I already know the answer too but I just want to see if the other person knows.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on February 19, 2008, 03:21:27 PM
Being wrong teaches us something, makes us stronger.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Natalia Evans on February 19, 2008, 03:29:25 PM
Well I hate being wrong. Makes me feel stupid and when I am not sure about something, I never say I am right about it.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on February 19, 2008, 03:32:57 PM
Well I hate being wrong. Makes me feel stupid and when I am not sure about something, I never say I am right about it.

Its kind of unavoidable, I mean, no one could know everything.  You have things which your good at, and as long as your not as perfect as alex,  then your ok.  He is so perfect, he may never see what is right in front of him :laugh:
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Natalia Evans on February 19, 2008, 03:37:05 PM
You're right but when I am not sure about something I always say 'I think' or "I'm not sure" etc. because I don't want people to think I'm lying or even think I'm dumb. I'm pretty rigid when it comes to facts. 
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on February 19, 2008, 03:43:23 PM
You're right but when I am not sure about something I always say 'I think' or "I'm not sure" etc. because I don't want people to think I'm lying or even think I'm dumb. I'm pretty rigid when it comes to facts. 

So is my mom, she would argue with me over when a pizza place is open to get a free pizza, but then I use a generalization to shut it down.  Generalizations are generally right. :laugh:
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: DirtDawg on February 19, 2008, 03:45:13 PM
Finnally, now if you guys would stop making excuses for alcohol and related problems...

That would turn me on :wanker:

Maybe we are a little scared to turn you on, Randy.

"DUCK!"

"That's no duck. It's CHICKEN!"



Excuses excuses :laugh:

Sorry, but I don't want mustard plaster, antifungal, bug balm, deodorant, live culture, herbal extract, yarrow root poultice, mentholated, insecticidal or "whatever the fuck else it is" cum in my mouth.

Thanks for thinking of me though.


:D
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on February 19, 2008, 03:48:13 PM
Finnally, now if you guys would stop making excuses for alcohol and related problems...

That would turn me on :wanker:

Maybe we are a little scared to turn you on, Randy.

"DUCK!"

"That's no duck. It's CHICKEN!"



Excuses excuses :laugh:

Sorry, but I don't want mustard plaster, antifungal, bug balm, deodorant, live culture, herbal extract, yarrow root poultice, mentholated, insecticidal or "whatever the fuck else it is" cum in my mouth.

Thanks for thinking of me though.


:D

It shows :laugh:

Sometimes I take too much, its really not bad, I mean, I haven't died yet :laugh:
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: DirtDawg on February 19, 2008, 04:10:04 PM
Finnally, now if you guys would stop making excuses for alcohol and related problems...

That would turn me on :wanker:

Maybe we are a little scared to turn you on, Randy.

"DUCK!"

"That's no duck. It's CHICKEN!"



Excuses excuses :laugh:

Sorry, but I don't want mustard plaster, antifungal, bug balm, deodorant, live culture, herbal extract, yarrow root poultice, mentholated, insecticidal or "whatever the fuck else it is" cum in my mouth.

Thanks for thinking of me though.


:D

It shows :laugh:

Sometimes I take too much, its really not bad, I mean, I haven't died yet :laugh:

Who is impersonating Randy?
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Natalia Evans on February 19, 2008, 04:16:23 PM
No one. It's him. He created a new account because Dunc messed with his membership and email.

Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: DirtDawg on February 19, 2008, 05:34:59 PM
No one. It's him. He created a new account because Dunc messed with his membership and email.



... but thiss person does not act or responnd like "our" Randy.

I want our real Randy backk.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Gluey on February 19, 2008, 10:40:15 PM
When people put out the Aspergers Card. I used to do that when i was younger.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: DirtDawg on February 20, 2008, 09:19:27 AM
When people put out the Aspergers Card. I used to do that when i was younger.

I Don't qualify for a card.

 :laugh:

Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: richard on February 20, 2008, 11:01:35 AM
Yes, reasons why I ask questions is because I want to understand something, make sure I understand something, want to hear someone's thought or opinion, want to see what they say, see if they have the right answer, make sure I am right about something. I may even ask questions about someone so I would know more about them.  Sometimes I even ask questions I already know the answer too but I just want to see if the other person knows.
your like a superhero from pluto and your superpower is to ask questions
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on February 20, 2008, 11:57:57 AM
No, she is from uranus :laugh:
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: richard on February 20, 2008, 01:40:40 PM
 :plus: randy :laugh:
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: duncvis on February 20, 2008, 05:12:50 PM
No one. It's him. He created a new account because Dunc messed with his membership and email.



No I didn't, you silly sausage. I've already explained this several times but here it is again: Randy was getting his profile altered by someone *coughCoralcough* so we suggested to him that he changed his password. which he did, and promptly forgot. we have offered to reset the password on his old account for him, but he has so far not taken us up on the offer.  :toporly:
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: richard on February 20, 2008, 10:36:13 PM
spokane girl now see if you would have dawnd your superpower you would have already known that, do you see why you need to use it at all times?
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Natalia Evans on February 21, 2008, 02:05:06 AM
No one. It's him. He created a new account because Dunc messed with his membership and email.



No I didn't, you silly sausage. I've already explained this several times but here it is again: Randy was getting his profile altered by someone *coughCoralcough* so we suggested to him that he changed his password. which he did, and promptly forgot. we have offered to reset the password on his old account for him, but he has so far not taken us up on the offer.  :toporly:

Okay, thanks for clearing that up. I had a PM from him telling me you did that.
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: Tristeza on February 21, 2008, 12:52:28 PM
NT bashing is lame. 
Title: Re: Aspies bitching and moaning about NTs and their condition
Post by: renaeden on February 21, 2008, 08:45:46 PM
NT bashing is lame. 
:agreed:
Because it means we are doing to them what we don't like done to us in the first place.