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Title: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 07:06:18 PM
What do people who believe in this stuff think that is?

I mean if I die at the age of 20, and someone I know dies when they're 30 (but they were 20 when I died), would I meet them there and see them as I remembered them before I died, or would they look like they did when they died? That way I wouldn't recognise them.

I don't believe in this stuff so I don't know why it bothers me, I honestly don't believe it at all. But what do people who do believe in it think happens here?

Would you have to die at roughly the same time that the person you care about dies, for you to be able to be with them there/? Or does it all depend on the individual people? Otherwise you could wait for ages and when you die, they'd never recognise you.

I don't believe in all this, but if it were true I'm guessing you would see each other as you remembered each other? And the same would go for other people there?

I know this is a gay queation btw,  it's just something that has been bothering me
And I know I didn't phrase it well
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 07:07:16 PM
Also I know that all sounds like an over-simplistic view of it all - I can't really get my head round stuff like this though as it makes no sense to me whatsoever. I am definitely atheist, this is just one thing I need to stop worrying about.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 07:11:21 PM
Having peeked at the answer (in delusions
if no where else), age itself doesn't matter.
Nor does time. More, how much you care.
And how much power each person has.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 07:11:46 PM
Starb definitely has some.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 07:14:58 PM
Starb definitely has some.
:) :) :)

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Having peeked at the answer (in delusions
if no where else), age itself doesn't matter.
Nor does time. More, how much you care.
And how much power each person has.

That is what I was thinking. It wouldn't seem right if it did, as it doesn't really mean anything or change anything, if you are still the same person. Even if you change over time and experience different things, you will still be yourself. If I manage to stay alive for as long as I need to though, i don't want to look like an old person to someone who wouldn't recognise me though, someone who would only know me as being younger. That would be weird, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 07:16:01 PM
You can appear as you wish.
Again though, that's kinda a matter
of comfort. It's easier to be what you've
gotten used to.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Pyraxis on January 30, 2008, 07:38:59 PM
It gets into questions of overlapping reality if reality is self-determined. Like what if your lover wants to see you younger and you want to be older? will one or both of you be unhappy (and have your paradise spoiled? :-P )? will you see different things?

Or do you think logic just wouldn't matter in the afterlife?
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 07:39:44 PM
I don't know that logic works in
this life.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 07:40:07 PM
I see myself differently than others
do. That's certain.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 07:42:06 PM
I do too
I don't believe in it, but I don't think logic would apply to this kind of thing
If anything, each different person (assuming there were more than one - friends, family etc) would see you in their own way, and different to how you would perceive yourself to be. So if your parter saw you as being younger, that wouldn't prevent someone else you were close to later in life, from sseeing you in the way that they remembered you, which could be older
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 08:03:15 PM
I know that I would see my wife,
most often, as she was when I first
met her.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 08:04:45 PM
Do you think if I don't die till I'm a lot older, Starbuline would still see me as I am now, instead of how I will be when I'm older?
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 08:14:27 PM
Depends. Her will will probably be towards what
you are now. But, your own might overcome that
somewhat. Doesn't really matter though. I don't
think such things really effect spirits in the same
way. She loves you, and that's enough.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: richard on January 30, 2008, 08:19:37 PM
i dont even want to think about dying, scares the fuck outta me :laugh:


i need to set my fireagates in rings first and enjoy them for about 40 or 50 years before any dying happens
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 08:21:53 PM
i dont even want to think about dying, scares the fuck outta me :laugh:

Why scared?

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i need to set my fireagates in rings first and enjoy them for about 40 or 50 years before any dying happens

I'd consider more than just rings.
Like, a pendant. Then again, I have
the ONE ring, already.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 08:23:40 PM
I never used to give a shit about death, it does scare me now though. I'm not sure why though, especially as I get suicidal sometimes.  :toporly:  Makes no sense.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 08:24:56 PM
My body just won't allow it.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: richard on January 30, 2008, 08:27:01 PM
im afraid of dying because i dont want to come out of my body. what will i do? what if i dont know how to control "flying threw the air?" i like staying in my body :laugh:
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 08:28:31 PM
I'd feel better without a body I think
Or I'd rather exist inside a robot
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 08:29:01 PM
I don't know what it would be like to not physically exist though  :toporly:
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: richard on January 30, 2008, 08:30:25 PM
i just dont want to see clowns and hear evil laughter when i die, or see my retarded stepdad :zoinks:
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Dexter Morgan on January 30, 2008, 08:30:51 PM
I don't know what it would be like to not physically exist though  :toporly:
It's the same as it was like before you were born.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: richard on January 30, 2008, 08:31:49 PM
I don't know what it would be like to not physically exist though  :toporly:
It's the same as it was like before you were born.
care to tell us what that is like?
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 08:31:59 PM
I don't know what it would be like to not physically exist though  :toporly:
It's the same as it was like before you were born.
That is how I see it, but I'm trying to understand it from the perspective of people who believe all the other stuff as well
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 08:33:13 PM
I'd feel better without a body I think
Or I'd rather exist inside a robot

I'd rather exist (at least temporarily)
inside your body.  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 08:33:50 PM
i just dont want to see clowns and hear evil laughter when i die

Personal hell?  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 08:34:06 PM
I'd feel better without a body I think
Or I'd rather exist inside a robot

I'd rather exist (at least temporarily)
inside your body.  :eyebrows:

Typical Calandale Response  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 08:34:28 PM
I don't know what it would be like to not physically exist though  :toporly:
It's the same as it was like before you were born.
care to tell us what that is like?

I was around before she was born.
Pretty much as it is now.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 08:35:30 PM
I'd feel better without a body I think
Or I'd rather exist inside a robot

I'd rather exist (at least temporarily)
inside your body.  :eyebrows:

Typical Calandale Response  :zoinks:

We just have to find another hot chick,
and a videocamera, and we're all set.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 08:38:27 PM
I would settle with just the hot chick and the video camera :orly:
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 08:42:56 PM
spoilsport.

you KNOW you wanted to vote that way,
even if your sense got the better of you.

Just give in to your real feelings.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 08:47:29 PM
You are not girly enough for me  :indeed:
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 08:48:22 PM
I am. I just come with some equipment
that it would take some time getting used
to.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Soph on January 30, 2008, 08:51:24 PM
Your equipment is not preferable  :laugh:
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 30, 2008, 09:01:21 PM
I know. But, you could get used
to it, and the warmth of my
presence would make you
happier, in the ends.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Dexter Morgan on January 30, 2008, 09:03:51 PM
I don't know what it would be like to not physically exist though  :toporly:
It's the same as it was like before you were born.
care to tell us what that is like?
I remember not existing when I was young.  It totally fucking blew my mind.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: renaeden on January 31, 2008, 05:31:34 AM
My answer to the question in the first post is: The person will see you how they remember you best.

So Starbuline will see you, Soph, the way she remembers you. And you will see her the same way. :)
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Alex179 on January 31, 2008, 09:06:13 AM
I don't know what it would be like to not physically exist though  :toporly:
Endless sleep that you don't remember.   Like Dexter/headphase said about before you were born as well.   Basically nothingness... which is what I believe in.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Peter on January 31, 2008, 12:50:06 PM
I don't know that logic works in
this life.

That's just the schizophrenia talking.
Title: Re: Age in afterlife
Post by: Calandale on January 31, 2008, 03:57:39 PM
I don't know that logic works in
this life.

That's just the schizophrenia talking.

No, skepticism. There's no compelling
reason to believe the underlying assumptions
to any particular logical system.