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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Mr Smith on January 27, 2008, 04:05:50 AM
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Who else think men should be able to hit women who deserve it without being labelled etc?
I mean, a lot of people don't care if a bird whollops a man.
I mean, Doesn't seem fair, even if men are stronger, some women can be complete jerks.
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Self-defence is OK if she hits you between the legs, other it's just silly since men have bigger musclemass and can build bigger muclemass. On the other hand, if it is a girl that could actually take you down, then sure, hit her. When you are the stronger person, I don't think you have anything to prove. Just grow up and solve it like adults without using violence.
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Who else think men should be able to hit women who deserve it without being labelled etc?
I mean, a lot of people don't care if a bird whollops a man.
I mean, Doesn't seem fair, even if men are stronger, some women can be complete jerks.
Violence begets violence?
Physical violence against anyone, male or female is wrong. I've often said that I would hit a female given sufficient provocation...But I doubt that now..I haven't been violent toward another person for years... And whilst I will defend myself, defence doesn't have to be violent.
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Never had a problem with it.
I mean, IF violence is ever justified,
I see no reason why anyone should
be exempted, carte blanche, just
because of some issue of fairness.
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Never had a problem with it.
I mean, IF violence is ever justified,
I see no reason why anyone should
be exempted, carte blanche, just
because of some issue of fairness.
I think I can agree with that... If you want to attack someone physically you should expect the same in return. But violence is rarely the answer.
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Violence seems like insanity,
to me.
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Self-defence is OK if she hits you between the legs, other it's just silly since men have bigger musclemass and can build bigger muclemass. On the other hand, if it is a girl that could actually take you down, then sure, hit her. When you are the stronger person, I don't think you have anything to prove. Just grow up and solve it like adults without using violence.
Why should it matter how strong the girl is?
I mean, if a girl approached you on the street, and was a total bitch to you for no reason and started shoving you, I don't see why you shouldn't shove her back, no matter how small and fragile she is.
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No. I wouldn't do that.
Nor would I, to a guy though.
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I don't - under any provocation. In fact if she is causing me aggravation and has a male friend "backing her up" or supporting her, I am liable to try to take him on so I do have something to hit. He can persuade her to stop or she can choose to stop or he can go home sorer for the experience.
To answer the question of whether it is sexist? Sure it is! Do some women exploit it? Yup.
My ex in Mediation with our divorce mentioned that I was "aggressive" which the Mediator was happy to accept. I questioned her.
Me: Have I ever hit you?
Her : No
Me: Have I ever slapped you?
Her: No
Me: Have I ever kick you?
Her: No
Me: Have I ever pushed you?
Her: No
Me: Have I ever even called you a "bad name"
Her: No...but the way you look and your tone of voice...
The female Mediator at this point glared in astonishment at her like she had just grown two extra heads.
With the latest court case when she denied access to my kids again similar claims of being aggressive and hostile came out. Why? Because it is easily believed and I am male and the judge bought it.
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I think it should depend on how weak they are compared to you, regardless of what sex they are. I wouldn't hit someone who was obviously less strong than I am. But then maybe I am a hypocrite as I wouldn't hit a girl anyway.
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i think it should be allowed only if the woman is a trifling hoochie momma out for daddys money or creates baby momma drama
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I'm not dumb enough to start an actual physical altercation because I know I would get my ass handed to me, so it sort of gets moot. If I yell at someone, yelling back could be justified (or leaving, etc)- hitting in response to yelling would NOT be. I thus fail to see any scenario in which a man would be justified in actually hitting me.
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Once, when I was a teenager, there was a girl that told me she'd beat the crap out of me if I tried to enter my car (I had been drinking). So she ended up attacking me. Besides being a really retarded way to act towards someone whom you think is drunk, well, no, that really is just a stupid way to act towards someone that you think is drunk.
I guess in theory it's not cool that women can attack us without worrying about any realistic repercussions, but realistically you can pretty much always restrain them if you wanted to. Maybe there should be a special clause in that law relating to muscley-women.
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Violence is something people resort to when they can't win an argument. I haven't been in any situations with either of my exs where I couldn't just get up and leave the room. It never escalated with either of them past just arguing. I have never been hit by a woman or anything, my first girlfriend did throw stuff at me one time though. She was just doing that because she knew that she was wrong, and that was the only thing she could do to me. My mother has slapped me before, but I would never hit her lol.
I have seen some big ass women before, that if they became violent, I would have no choice but to fight back probably. Fortunately there aren't many female rugby players out there looking to punch dudes for no reason.
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Violence is something people resort to when they can't win an argument.
Sometimes it's just a preferred method of interaction.
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Yeah, but it out to be
spelled out, and understood
first. Otherwise, it can lead
to trouble.
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Well, understood anyway. Spelling it out kinda ruins the flow.
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True. I wanted to add that,
but forgot.
But, when the cops get involved,
they just don't seem to understand.
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Who's calling the cops?
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Once, my landlord had a shotgun
trained on me, because he didn't
realize 'twas just play.
And I wasn't the one who was armed.
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Violence is something people resort to when they can't win an argument.
Sometimes it's just a preferred method of interaction.
For some people.
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Never said otherwise.
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Social customs breed double standards all the time.
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Violence is something people resort to when they can't win an argument.
Sometimes it's just a preferred method of interaction.
For some people.
There is that, however there also is the "step outside a minute for a chat" too.
This goes along the line of if someone is in say a pub, party, nightclub and is being smart, insulting yourself or your girl, being a creep or whatever you invite them outside and away from everyone else. Once they are out there you beat shit out of them(or try to) and they in turn get a seriously deserved lesson and won't be likely to pull that crap around you next time.
In fact once fronted most people back off especially if you smile whilst inviting them. End of problem no crap from them and everyone leaves everyone else alone.
Of course when they do step outside you have to go bloody hard or you have just set yourself up for a pwning each time they see you and their behaviour will not get nicer or more respectful. (Basically if they follow through you have to beat them)
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People generally get the idea if I was asking them to step outside for a chat. If someone is being that big of a dick to me (bad idea on their part) then they would be fucked anyways. Two of the bars I drink at... I know at least 2 bouncers personally at each bar (Randy left for Iraq.. so only 1 at Lynch's now). Someone trying to fight me there would be in for it. I don't have problems with people usually, normally I am the one trying to stop my friends from getting into fights. I can count on one hand the number of times someone has fucked with me at a bar or any public place for that matter. All of that crap goes back to highschool for the most part.
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(Basically if they follow through you have to beat them)
Not if you give 'em a blow job.
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(Basically if they follow through you have to beat them)
Not if you give 'em a blow job.
Or a firm blow to the back of the head.
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People generally get the idea if I was asking them to step outside for a chat. If someone is being that big of a dick to me (bad idea on their part) then they would be fucked anyways. Two of the bars I drink at... I know at least 2 bouncers personally at each bar (Randy left for Iraq.. so only 1 at Lynch's now). Someone trying to fight me there would be in for it. I don't have problems with people usually, normally I am the one trying to stop my friends from getting into fights. I can count on one hand the number of times someone has fucked with me at a bar or any public place for that matter. All of that crap goes back to highschool for the most part.
Is Randy a Bouncer? (I better watch myself) :lol:
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I've seen Richard on a trampoline, but
never flo
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People generally get the idea if I was asking them to step outside for a chat. If someone is being that big of a dick to me (bad idea on their part) then they would be fucked anyways. Two of the bars I drink at... I know at least 2 bouncers personally at each bar (Randy left for Iraq.. so only 1 at Lynch's now). Someone trying to fight me there would be in for it. I don't have problems with people usually, normally I am the one trying to stop my friends from getting into fights. I can count on one hand the number of times someone has fucked with me at a bar or any public place for that matter. All of that crap goes back to highschool for the most part.
Is Randy a Bouncer? (I better watch myself) :lol:
No, but it would be funny if he is. This is a guy I know in real life that is a Marine and left for Iraq a few months ago for his third tour there. He also was playing bass in the band I am in.
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I knew one bouncer, about flo's
height. :laugh:
Guy had the biggest chip on his shoulder.