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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:31:53 PM

Title: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:31:53 PM
Creationists get their asses handed to them!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk3sRqsVrh4&feature=related
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:35:33 PM
Part #2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm-lQ8dt11k
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:36:35 PM
Part #3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-do3OlmZx_o
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:37:41 PM
Part #4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCHA1qkxUNQ
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:38:39 PM
Part #5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYFrmY50r4Y
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 19, 2007, 11:38:55 PM
that's awful some kid made a work of art and they destroyed it? how dare they? >:(
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:39:42 PM
Part #5.1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsSwULviLe0
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:40:36 PM
Part #6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8r-YIAg430
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:42:04 PM
Part #7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PuOfi_1Adw
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Leto729 on November 19, 2007, 11:43:22 PM
Is that the whole show now. ;D

I believe God would allow animals to adapt so they can survive.
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:43:41 PM
Part #8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E96gWBdYW7s
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:44:40 PM
Part #9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKxitMBMga4
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:45:45 PM
Part #10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkvZKJ65YHc
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:46:42 PM
Part #11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REgXU9Azr1Q
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:48:38 PM
that's awful some kid made a work of art and they destroyed it? how dare they? >:(

Watch part #8 ... It gets worse... they're trying to subvert science to establish a theocracy in America!!!
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 19, 2007, 11:50:42 PM
Is that the whole show now. ;D

I believe God would allow animals to adapt so they can survive.

The whole point of the plaintifs (scientists)  is that belief in the supernatural has no place in science.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 20, 2007, 12:06:55 AM
both sides are wrong.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Leto729 on November 20, 2007, 12:09:11 AM
both sides are wrong.
I agree.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Tesla on November 20, 2007, 06:09:26 AM
/me sits back and waits for Catrona to show up.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Parts on November 20, 2007, 06:59:39 AM
Hell awaits those who doubt the word of GOD
This science thing is just the work of Satan
Only believers will be saved God's fiery  wraith. None of you will be spared.
REPENT NOW, discard Satan's science and embrace the will of GOD


"Thou who does not believe will suffer a terrible fate in the hands of science" Parts. 18:8-9
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Tesla on November 20, 2007, 07:22:50 AM
Hell awaits those who doubt the word of GOD
This science thing is just the work of Satan
Only believers will be saved God's fiery  wraith. None of you will be spared.
REPENT NOW, discard Satan's science and embrace the will of GOD


"Thou who does not believe will suffer a terrible fate in the hands of science" Parts. 18:8-9
Seriously?   ???
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 20, 2007, 09:52:07 AM
Hell awaits those who doubt the word of GOD
This science thing is just the work of Satan
Only believers will be saved God's fiery  wraith. None of you will be spared.
REPENT NOW, discard Satan's science and embrace the will of GOD


"Thou who does not believe will suffer a terrible fate in the hands of science" Parts. 18:8-9
Seriously?   ???

Yes, Parts is a modern prophet who wrote his own book of the bible. Kind of like Joseph Smith.  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 20, 2007, 09:53:36 AM
both sides are wrong.

care to elaborate??
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Tesla on November 20, 2007, 10:47:16 AM
Ah, I see.   >:D
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 20, 2007, 12:33:32 PM
both sides are wrong.

care to elaborate??

i seen no proof we came from apes. also, no proof that the world is 6000 years old and all that crap the creationism nuts claim. i think both camps should go home and crack open a beer. they need to chill the fuck down.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 20, 2007, 02:38:04 PM
both sides are wrong.

care to elaborate??

i seen no proof we came from apes. .......

Did you watch the part where they talked about human and chimp DNA??

We share almost 98% of our DNA with chimps. This wasn't discoveredn untill recently though. The one problem is that all the Great Apes (Chimpanzes, Gorilas, Orangutans and Bonobos) have 48 chromosomes, where humans have 46.

...well...... they discovered that chromosomes have endmarker sequences along with middle marker sequences. The second pair of human chromosomes has 4 endmarker sequences, and 2 middle sequences. It's obviously 2 sets of chromosomes glued together, giving us the same number of chromosomes as the other great apes.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Scrapheap on November 20, 2007, 02:40:50 PM
Of course this is all just "scientific theory".

Well al know that we were created by his noodely holyness, :fsm: Flying Spaghetti Monster, :fsm: and we're the decendants of Pirates, god's chosen people.


:fsm:

RAmen!!! :fsm:
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Tesla on November 20, 2007, 03:09:54 PM
both sides are wrong.

care to elaborate??

i seen no proof we came from apes. also, no proof that the world is 6000 years old and all that crap the creationism nuts claim. i think both camps should go home and crack open a beer. they need to chill the fuck down.
Have you looked?
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Tesla on November 20, 2007, 03:10:34 PM
(http://pureland.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/noodley500-772793.jpg)
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 20, 2007, 04:18:21 PM
both sides are wrong.

care to elaborate??

i seen no proof we came from apes. also, no proof that the world is 6000 years old and all that crap the creationism nuts claim. i think both camps should go home and crack open a beer. they need to chill the fuck down.
Did you watch the video. There is lots of scientific evidence for evolution, and anything for intelligent design has been rebuked in the video.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Tesla on November 20, 2007, 06:09:58 PM
One would think God would have better karma.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 20, 2007, 06:11:57 PM
One would think God would have better karma.
Lol, 8 is the nearest to infinity we could get ;)
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Tesla on November 20, 2007, 06:32:30 PM
God, why do good things happen to bad people?
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Parts on November 20, 2007, 06:51:40 PM
Good things happen to bad people because they are not bad but doing the true work of GOD.  Look to you Bible and you will see the true meaning of life.
"He who followeth my word shall be rewarded.  Go forth and rob the Quicky Mart as it is owned by the infidels and ye shall be rewarded in my kingdom"  Parts 23:2

"Take what is not yours from those who have it and make it your own as you are my chosen people"  Parts  21:12

"Those serving GOD can do no wrong and in serving God no wrong can be done" Parts  3:2
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Tesla on November 20, 2007, 07:44:57 PM
Now Partism is a religion I can get behind.
Title: Re: NOVA Judegement day, Inteligent Design on trial...
Post by: Teejay on November 20, 2007, 11:42:43 PM
that's awful some kid made a work of art and they destroyed it? how dare they? >:(

Watch part #8 ... It gets worse... they're trying to subvert science to establish a theocracy in America!!!

Scrapheap, In a dullocracy if the majority of the people through their elected representatives or even through popular vote want say Christian Creationism taught in their schools or have abstainance only sex education or organized school prayer, that is their right. The bill of rights first amendment was introduced only to prohibit the establishment of an state church, like the Church of England in UK by the federal government.

This intelligent design movement grew out of the US supreme Courts banning of teaching of creationism in the schools back in the 1980's.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 20, 2007, 11:48:55 PM
both sides are wrong.

care to elaborate??

i seen no proof we came from apes. also, no proof that the world is 6000 years old and all that crap the creationism nuts claim. i think both camps should go home and crack open a beer. they need to chill the fuck down.
Have you looked?

what i consider proof is not there. that's all. you could present me a clone of me and tell me i came from it cuz we share DNA. that's not proof.

sides, i believe in the Spaghetti Deity.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 20, 2007, 11:51:51 PM

Did you watch the video. There is lots of scientific evidence for evolution, and anything for intelligent design has been rebuked in the video.

well ooh if the video says so. :laugh:

there's no proof for either side. i do believe in intelligent design AND evolution, i'm just not convinced we came from apes and i certainly don't believe in creationism crapola.

can't watch the videos, i'm ADD and i couldn't even concentrate on Bob Ross today. :'(
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 21, 2007, 11:18:40 AM

Did you watch the video. There is lots of scientific evidence for evolution, and anything for intelligent design has been rebuked in the video.

well ooh if the video says so. :laugh:

there's no proof for either side. i do believe in intelligent design AND evolution, i'm just not convinced we came from apes and i certainly don't believe in creationism crapola.

can't watch the videos, i'm ADD and i couldn't even concentrate on Bob Ross today. :'(
Erm, fossil records, genetics and the behaviour of certain species that dont last prove evolution. The ID arguements got slaughtered in that video, the smoking gun was the textbook where they simply crossed out creationism and replaced it with intelligent design.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Parts on November 21, 2007, 11:24:56 AM
The Platypus proves GOD exists he had told me he made it up out of spare parts he had left over after Creation as a joke to confuse scientists.

"And GOD said to PARTS let the Platypus prove my existence and confound the Satanic Scientists" PARTS 3:15
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 21, 2007, 01:58:59 PM
noone can disprove intelligent design. you can disprove creationism, that's different.

i don't believe in fossils as proof. there have been many different types of humanoids in existenze.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 21, 2007, 02:04:35 PM
noone can disprove intelligent design. you can disprove creationism, that's different.

i don't believe in fossils as proof. there have been many different types of humanoids in existenze.
Creationism is intelligent design. Intelligent design is just masquerading Creationism as a scientific theory.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 21, 2007, 02:10:26 PM
creationism is stupid design. the creationist think god is stupid enough to do all that fucked up shit they're talking about.

intelligent design is a blanket term for any conscious beingness that created the universe. it has nothing to do with creationism other than they took the term to use in their own silly schemes. :P
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Calandale on November 22, 2007, 01:59:26 AM

Erm, fossil records, genetics and the behaviour of certain species that dont last prove evolution. The ID arguements got slaughtered in that video, the smoking gun was the textbook where they simply crossed out creationism and replaced it with intelligent design.

Proves selection (well - so far as 'proof' can be
applied to natural science). Frankly, I don't see
much to fault with the general thesis of ID. Pretty
much the same kind of argument that's used to
promote the very idea of God, to begin with. One
can't really claim that this could all happen without -
or with, for that matter.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Calandale on November 22, 2007, 02:00:37 AM
creationism is stupid design. the creationist think god is stupid enough to do all that fucked up shit they're talking about.

Hey, failed experiments. What, you think God is perfect?
Or, maybe it just likes making crappy critters.

Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 22, 2007, 05:15:19 AM
i struggle to understand god. why make such a fucked up world?
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Calandale on November 23, 2007, 05:53:01 AM
'Twas a good joke, really. :laugh:
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 23, 2007, 07:06:13 AM
twisted.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Parts on November 23, 2007, 08:47:18 PM
GOD made it as it is to test your faith

"Then GOD said 'Let the world be fucked up in order to test those fuckers who doubt me'"  PART  42:42
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2007, 12:48:46 AM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Alex179 on November 27, 2007, 01:17:10 PM
If the world was perfect and peaceful, then it would be boring.   Nothing entertaining to watch for god, nothing to laugh at.   Right now he has plenty of comedic material for the sick minded.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Peter on November 27, 2007, 02:08:52 PM
It strikes me that Christians have it all wrong with the good and evil thing.  It's not God who's good and Satan who's evil, but the opposite.  In Genesis, God is an egotistical cunt who makes dim-witted slaves to worship him, and when Satan frees their minds and wills from enforced sycophancy, God spits out his dummy and curses them unto all the generations thereafter.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Leto729 on November 27, 2007, 02:45:25 PM
creationism is stupid design. the creationist think god is stupid enough to do all that fucked up shit they're talking about.

Hey, failed experiments. What, you think God is perfect?
Or, maybe it just likes making crappy critters.


Got to remember the World is Imperfect because of Mankind.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Leto729 on November 27, 2007, 02:47:30 PM
i struggle to understand god. why make such a fucked up world?
We struggle with this cause of Our Imperfectness.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Alex179 on November 27, 2007, 02:54:17 PM
It strikes me that Christians have it all wrong with the good and evil thing.  It's not God who's good and Satan who's evil, but the opposite.  In Genesis, God is an egotistical cunt who makes dim-witted slaves to worship him, and when Satan frees their minds and wills from enforced sycophancy, God spits out his dummy and curses them unto all the generations thereafter.
If humans were just God's mindless slaves with no knowledge of the difference between right and wrong, they would have never sinned.   The omnipotent creator gets to decide ultimately who is evil and who is good, the opinions of man or fallen angels on the matter are irrevelant.   If you don't believe in an omnipotent creator, then that is fine.   Questioning a omnipotent creator that you do believe in is pointless, as the creator is all powerful and can make whatever you consider to be evil about its actions to be good in the end (doesn't have to justify its actions either). 
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Calandale on November 27, 2007, 10:40:05 PM
creationism is stupid design. the creationist think god is stupid enough to do all that fucked up shit they're talking about.

Hey, failed experiments. What, you think God is perfect?
Or, maybe it just likes making crappy critters.


Got to remember the World is Imperfect because of Mankind.

Uh huh. Blame it on mere creations of
a supposedly perfect being?

Doesn't work.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Parts on November 27, 2007, 10:55:46 PM
If god knows all and is all powerful why would he even need to create anything as he would know the outcome before hand.  Why put everybody though all this just for his entertainment?
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 27, 2007, 10:56:55 PM
 :yawn:

i hate this conundrum.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Leto729 on November 28, 2007, 12:24:34 AM
creationism is stupid design. the creationist think god is stupid enough to do all that fucked up shit they're talking about.

Hey, failed experiments. What, you think God is perfect?
Or, maybe it just likes making crappy critters.


Got to remember the World is Imperfect because of Mankind.

Uh huh. Blame it on mere creations of
a supposedly perfect being?

Doesn't work.
Adam and Eve had one test and failed it.
If They did not partake of The Tree of Good and Bad.
We would not be having this conversation would We.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Leto729 on November 28, 2007, 12:27:18 AM
If god knows all and is all powerful why would he even need to create anything as he would know the outcome before hand.  Why put everybody though all this just for his entertainment?
It was in the Hands of Man (Adam and Eve) in the Beginning the Outcome was there to Make nobodies elses in the end.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Calandale on November 28, 2007, 12:39:35 AM
creationism is stupid design. the creationist think god is stupid enough to do all that fucked up shit they're talking about.

Hey, failed experiments. What, you think God is perfect?
Or, maybe it just likes making crappy critters.


Got to remember the World is Imperfect because of Mankind.

Uh huh. Blame it on mere creations of
a supposedly perfect being?

Doesn't work.
Adam and Eve had one test and failed it.
If They did not partake of The Tree of Good and Bad.
We would not be having this conversation would We.

And an omniscient and omnipotent God allowed, nay
required, this to happen?

Thus, God is not, by my definitions, good.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Calandale on November 28, 2007, 12:40:16 AM
If god knows all and is all powerful why would he even need to create anything as he would know the outcome before hand.  Why put everybody though all this just for his entertainment?
It was in the Hands of Man (Adam and Eve) in the Beginning the Outcome was there to Make nobodies elses in the end.

If it were in my hands, I would have
stuffed the fucking fruit down God's
throat, and made him wank hisself.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 28, 2007, 01:28:26 AM
we are all responsible, we are all god together. adam and eve are a metaphor for the way we split off and one became many. when adam and eve ate the sinfruit that means we wanted to experiment with the dark side, as in, live on this dingy ball in utter chaos. but that time is coming to an end.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Calandale on November 28, 2007, 01:49:48 AM
Mine sure the hell is.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 28, 2007, 01:59:04 AM
what's that supposed to mean?
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Calandale on November 28, 2007, 02:12:26 AM
I think it's time to die again.
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Post by: SovaNu on November 28, 2007, 02:33:10 AM
no it's not.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Parts on November 28, 2007, 06:14:15 AM
If god knows all and is all powerful why would he even need to create anything as he would know the outcome before hand.  Why put everybody though all this just for his entertainment?
It was in the Hands of Man (Adam and Eve) in the Beginning the Outcome was there to Make nobodies elses in the end.
But why??  If he is truly omnipotent it would have been foreseen as would how it ends.  Why put people through all this? 
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: SovaNu on November 29, 2007, 05:33:58 AM
god is infinitely curious and infinitely experimental. experiments sometimes lead to horrible things.
Title: Re: NOVA Judgement day, Intelligent Design on trial...
Post by: Teejay on November 29, 2007, 05:52:19 AM
It strikes me that Christians have it all wrong with the good and evil thing.  It's not God who's good and Satan who's evil, but the opposite.  In Genesis, God is an egotistical cunt who makes dim-witted slaves to worship him, and when Satan frees their minds and wills from enforced sycophancy, God spits out his dummy and curses them unto all the generations thereafter.

Satan in the old testament is a rebel angel essentially.