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Title: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Gluey on November 07, 2007, 11:50:42 PM
ok. It pisses the fuck out of me that everyone has to love the same band as me. It's all little preppy wanna-be retro cunts that destroy my reputation. The Beatles now-a-days is the equivalent of Betty Boop and Pop-eye I mean these little preppy teene bopper cunts think of The Beatles as a cute thing to have on a t-shirt.

It's the whole vintage thing. Everyone dwells on the Beatles and tries to be like them and copies them. Do what The Beatles did you fuckers! Come up with your own tunes and your own styles! and stop dwelling on The fucking past. You will never be like The Beatles so all you retro-wanna be "musicians" create something new to create a retro for the future.

I mean having an obsession that is popular and over-rated might make people think i'm not an aspie and a teene bopper emo poser.

I loved The Beatles a year and a half before they were trendy and "in" I had to order Beatles stuff from England. Now you can buy Beatles stuff anywhere. it's more about The Beatles stuff than actually being a fan. My reputation is destroyed.

By the way...... FUCK across the universe...lets actually make a revolution! not make movies about revolutions. What a fucked up society we live in.
I'm angry can't I be a beatles fan with JUST real Beatles fans? not little trendy cunts destroying the image of beatles fans?

fuckity fuck fuck fuck and to make things worse they are invading the online autism community. It's not bands, or fashion thats cool. it's having a developmental disability. Sure I think having Aspergers makes me unique and shit but if I was like everyone else I would be a lot more content and life would be easy and I wouldn't be ranting about shit like this.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Soph on November 08, 2007, 12:00:32 AM
Why do you care about your reputation?

I don't know many people who like Rammstein. I thought it was cool that Sophie did, other than that I don't care though.
And I take history at uni, so a lot of people there like history too.
I don't care if other people like maps and postcards.
And I think everyone should like cats.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Peter on November 08, 2007, 12:04:12 AM
Next time you meet a fake Beatles fan, tell them about your Ringo fantasies and ask them what fantasies they have. 
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: SovaNu on November 08, 2007, 12:09:16 AM
i like it that other people like Stargate. it means it will stay on TV for a long time. it meant that Danny got saved when Danny fans made the producers get Michael Shanks back when he left. it means i can talk about it with people. it means we have Stargate smilies. it means i can call someone a Shol'va and not get weird looks. :P

try being happy that people like the Beatles, wouldn't you want that people appreciate them? it's not just posers that like Beatles. it's people who like music. they made great music. just like Mozart, they will be remembered.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: renaeden on November 08, 2007, 12:23:04 AM
try being happy that people like the Beatles, wouldn't you want that people appreciate them? it's not just posers that like Beatles. it's people who like music. they made great music. just like Mozart, they will be remembered.
:indeed:

There are a lot of retro shirts out there now. I bought a Voltron one. That is because I was absolutely obsessed with it when I was younger.  :green:
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: SovaNu on November 08, 2007, 12:25:11 AM
i love that smilie. :laugh:
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Gluey on November 08, 2007, 01:02:58 AM
Next time you meet a fake Beatles fan, tell them about your Ringo fantasies and ask them what fantasies they have. 

Mabey i'll just do that.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Tesla on November 08, 2007, 06:01:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RAQXg0IdfI


I love the YouTube mod....  hehe :)
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: DirtDawg on November 08, 2007, 06:51:46 AM
Next time you meet a fake Beatles fan, tell them about your Ringo fantasies and ask them what fantasies they have. 

Good point.

Anyway, why does it matter to you?

If you really want to find other Beatles fans, but want to take their contribution seriously, go to some of the music industry sites. I know a site where almost a third of the topics are Beatles oriented. It is about the music and collecting their music releases, though. It is NOT a fan site!!!

Thaey are dead serious about how the Beatles have shaped modern pop music. There are people from all age groups who are part of the Craze, still going after fifty plus years.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: DirtDawg on November 08, 2007, 06:54:40 AM


Oh, BTW, I am one of them. I consider them the music of my childhood, but they were truly FAB!
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Calandale on November 08, 2007, 07:21:34 AM
If it makes you feel any better, the beetles suck.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Gluey on November 08, 2007, 11:58:42 PM
If it makes you feel any better, the beetles suck.


Maybe your mother beat you with a coat hanger when you were little.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on November 09, 2007, 12:00:30 AM
I like the Monkees better.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Soph on November 09, 2007, 12:01:16 AM
I like Rammstein
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: maldoror on November 09, 2007, 12:04:16 AM
If it makes you feel any better, the beetles suck.


Maybe your mother beat you with a coat hanger when you were little.

That wouldn't do much.

Anyway, you could be like me and find the most obscure, weirdy-beardy-est musics to obsess over and then whinge and bitch when no one knows who the fuck you're talking about. That worked real well.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on November 09, 2007, 12:05:18 AM
I like Rammstein

That too.

And Disturbed.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Calandale on November 09, 2007, 05:51:22 AM
If it makes you feel any better, the beetles suck.


Maybe your mother beat you with a coat hanger when you were little.

Doesn't make them any better.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: odeon on November 09, 2007, 01:39:52 PM
Don't be ashamed. It's still the greatest band there ever was. There were other good ones, and there are a few decent ones today, but the fab four were the best.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: SovaNu on November 09, 2007, 01:52:10 PM
Mozart's Balls was better. :P
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: DirtDawg on November 09, 2007, 04:03:05 PM
I like Rammstein

That too.

And Disturbed.

You like Rammstein and Disturbed?

Shit!

We have two things in common.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: DirtDawg on November 09, 2007, 04:09:47 PM
Don't be ashamed. It's still the greatest band there ever was. There were other good ones, and there are a few decent ones today, but the fab four were the best.

See, it's this kind of stuff that makes it more difficult for the non-Beatlefan.

They should be allowed to come across the Fab Four genius on their own. You have no idea how many times, working with youth musician groups, that I hear some comment (while the professor is forcing Beatles down their throats) "Whoa! That's just like ______________ that we have played last month!."  It's because The Beatles already covered that area of music.
:P
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Fritz the Cat on November 09, 2007, 04:11:45 PM
This reminds me off an acquaintance of mine, when I first met her she was an ordinary RnB teen, sure nothing wrong about that, second time I met her she was emo and said "I hate people that becomes alternative just because it's popular!" and then I asked her "Wasn't that what you just did?" and she was all like "But it's different!". Tried to avoid her since. It really doesn't work with "I did this first, I was here first!" argument, it's just something a little kid would use, or Jews (HAH! I did a racist joke! I did it!). Fashion and trends comes and goes, and people that follows them actually enjoy the trend, well as long as it's trendy and that's a way to apprieciate it. And most of them actually keeps it until it becomes trendy again.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: odeon on November 09, 2007, 05:39:44 PM
Don't be ashamed. It's still the greatest band there ever was. There were other good ones, and there are a few decent ones today, but the fab four were the best.

See, it's this kind of stuff that makes it more difficult for the non-Beatlefan.

They should be allowed to come across the Fab Four genius on their own. You have no idea how many times, working with youth musician groups, that I hear some comment (while the professor is forcing Beatles down their throats) "Whoa! That's just like ______________ that we have played last month!."  It's because The Beatles already covered that area of music.
:P

Poor kids, having that kind of professor... It's deeply unfair, too. Sooner or later new talent will appear, without bearing the slightest resemblance to the Fab Four.

And it's not that I don't love other types of music because I do. It's just that the Beatles were the best at what they did.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: DirtDawg on November 09, 2007, 06:25:16 PM
Don't be ashamed. It's still the greatest band there ever was. There were other good ones, and there are a few decent ones today, but the fab four were the best.

See, it's this kind of stuff that makes it more difficult for the non-Beatlefan.

They should be allowed to come across the Fab Four genius on their own. You have no idea how many times, working with youth musician groups, that I hear some comment (while the professor is forcing Beatles down their throats) "Whoa! That's just like ______________ that we have played last month!."  It's because The Beatles already covered that area of music.
:P

Poor kids, having that kind of professor... It's deeply unfair, too. Sooner or later new talent will appear, without bearing the slightest resemblance to the Fab Four.

And it's not that I don't love other types of music because I do. It's just that the Beatles were the best at what they did.

Yeah, poor kids, but it gets kind of funny after a while. I think these modern day music professors are just glad to have something more recent to call "classical."

 :laugh:

Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Calandale on November 09, 2007, 06:34:35 PM
Don't be ashamed. It's still the greatest band there ever was. There were other good ones, and there are a few decent ones today, but the fab four were the best.

See, it's this kind of stuff that makes it more difficult for the non-Beatlefan.

Yep. I wouldn't dislike them so much,
if people didn't spout this shit. They're
okay. Not the best at their time.

Quote
They should be allowed to come across the Fab Four genius on their own. You have no idea how many times, working with youth musician groups, that I hear some comment (while the professor is forcing Beatles down their throats) "Whoa! That's just like ______________ that we have played last month!."  It's because The Beatles already covered that area of music.
:P

I've always been troubled by the 'innovation' argument.
I'm not too impressed with what little that they added.
Indeed, I generally see it as questionable. The heart was
still in the old R&B sound, and that continued throughout
most of the music that I like. Innovation is seldom any one
person (or group), but a movement of an age.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: maldoror on November 09, 2007, 06:51:44 PM
They set the precedent for innovation in pop music being superficial new-age nonsense and alternative instrumentation. Now any top 40 asshole who uses cello in a song is an innovator.

Actually, my problem with Beatlemania is that they pretty much blocked the path for the people who WERE innovating. If it weren't for them, you might hear musicians on the radio nowadays rather than hook-machines.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Calandale on November 09, 2007, 07:01:51 PM
They set the precedent for innovation in pop music being superficial new-age nonsense and alternative instrumentation. Now any top 40 angel fluffy bunnah who uses cello in a song is an innovator.

Actually, my problem with Beatlemania is that they pretty much blocked the path for the people who WERE innovating. If it weren't for them, you might hear musicians on the radio nowadays rather than hook-machines.
:plus:

Crap, I can't.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: SovaNu on November 10, 2007, 12:26:53 AM
i think the beatles made nice music, catchy. but i like other bands better. i don't think the beatles were the best, they were a great band. millions of great bands in the world.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Soph on November 10, 2007, 12:32:10 AM
Amorphis, Katatonia, Amon Amarth and Norther
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: SovaNu on November 10, 2007, 11:38:34 AM
is Katatonia the band with the song Mulder and Scully? that was a good one.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: duncvis on November 10, 2007, 03:32:20 PM
That would be Catatonia.  :laugh:
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: odeon on November 10, 2007, 06:22:52 PM
They set the precedent for innovation in pop music being superficial new-age nonsense and alternative instrumentation. Now any top 40 angel fluffy bunnah who uses cello in a song is an innovator.

Actually, my problem with Beatlemania is that they pretty much blocked the path for the people who WERE innovating. If it weren't for them, you might hear musicians on the radio nowadays rather than hook-machines.

 :minusevil: I'd argue against your point if you actually had one.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: maldoror on November 10, 2007, 06:25:16 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Calandale on November 10, 2007, 08:21:19 PM
The way that the lazy 'win' around here.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: maldoror on November 10, 2007, 08:33:09 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Calandale on November 10, 2007, 08:35:42 PM
I wasn't referring to you,
but, now that you mention it....  :laugh:
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Alex179 on November 10, 2007, 11:30:28 PM
They set the precedent for innovation in pop music being superficial new-age nonsense and alternative instrumentation. Now any top 40 angel fluffy bunnah who uses cello in a song is an innovator.

Actually, my problem with Beatlemania is that they pretty much blocked the path for the people who WERE innovating. If it weren't for them, you might hear musicians on the radio nowadays rather than hook-machines.
Yeah you are karma free but I agree with you wholeheartedly.   Most radio ready music is crap due to it being verse and chorus dominated song structures that are reliant on hooks to entertain the listener.   No real musical substance or epic compositions going on whatsoever, just more formulated pop songwriting.   Bands are in trouble when they start writing songs over 5 minutes long because of the insane stupidity of the music listening public.   Pop songwriting is formulated crap that I wouldn't wipe my ass with for the most part.   

Where is the King Crimson lovefest?   Robert Fripp is 10 times the musical genius than anyone in the Beatles ever will be.   Well as far as integrating jazz multimeter riffs into metal and rock to make progressive rock, King Crimson was awesome.   Rush after their first two albums (which were too Led Zep sounding imo) became awesome as well.   I will always favour progressive rock/metal over rock pop acts.

I wouldn't blame it all on the Beatles, but they sure didn't help.   The retarded masses will always like the simplistic crap.   Oh boy you were the first to have the monetary backing to record this or that instrument or use a certain technique, here is a cookie.   That type of stuff was bound to happen due to production technology and not so much the will of a great songwriting band.  Backed by a big ass label with simple catchy songs, they had the budget and producers to make sweet pop candy for the masses.  They were the right band at the right time, for the most part.   
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: maldoror on November 10, 2007, 11:50:29 PM
They set the precedent for innovation in pop music being superficial new-age nonsense and alternative instrumentation. Now any top 40 angel fluffy bunnah who uses cello in a song is an innovator.

Actually, my problem with Beatlemania is that they pretty much blocked the path for the people who WERE innovating. If it weren't for them, you might hear musicians on the radio nowadays rather than hook-machines.
Yeah you are karma free but I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Mainly to piss off the likes of Odeon and others who would ghey me for having an opinion that is HeReTiCaL.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Gluey on November 11, 2007, 04:54:22 AM
If it makes you feel any better, the beetles suck.


Maybe your mother beat you with a coat hanger when you were little.

That wouldn't do much.

Anyway, you could be like me and find the most obscure, weirdy-beardy-est musics to obsess over and then whine and bitch when no one knows who the fuck you're talking about. That worked real well.

My second favorite band is DEVO. And when people ask me what other music I listen to besides the Beatles
I tell them I listen to DEVO. and people are all "Il Divo?" and I have to say  "NO! THAT NEW WAVE BAND! FROM THE 80'S!" I have to put up with that. it's not that bad. Even middle aged people had no idea what i was talking about. I listen to some Kraftwerk too and nobody knows who they are either.

It was like that with The Beatles with me for about a year. But once all those trendy stores sold those shirts and patches,The Beatles all of a suddenly mysteriously became popular to trendy young people. It's starting to fade away now. Because classic rock is going out. I hav'nt seen anyone with an AC/DC shirt in about a year. I know it is going out because the Sears cadolog sells AC/DC, Pink Floyed and Beatles shirts. Now and I always know Sears is always a year behind in there clothing department when it comes to trendy styles.

There is one advantage. Because of the trendy dumb preps. It is fun shopping because you can buy Beatles stuff everywhere!


Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: odeon on November 11, 2007, 02:56:44 PM
The way that the lazy 'win' around here.

I meant what I said. I still don't see an argument.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Calandale on November 11, 2007, 02:58:44 PM
Because classic rock is going out. I hav'nt seen anyone with an AC/DC shirt in about a year.

Say it ain't so.  >:(
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: odeon on November 11, 2007, 03:00:09 PM
They set the precedent for innovation in pop music being superficial new-age nonsense and alternative instrumentation. Now any top 40 angel fluffy bunnah who uses cello in a song is an innovator.

Actually, my problem with Beatlemania is that they pretty much blocked the path for the people who WERE innovating. If it weren't for them, you might hear musicians on the radio nowadays rather than hook-machines.
Yeah you are karma free but I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Mainly to piss off the likes of Odeon and others who would ghey me for having an opinion that is HeReTiCaL.

I don't have anything against your opinions as such. You got the symbolical -1 for the lack of argument supporting said opinion.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: SovaNu on November 11, 2007, 05:32:46 PM
Because classic rock is going out. I hav'nt seen anyone with an AC/DC shirt in about a year.

Say it ain't so.  >:(

AC/DC?
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Calandale on November 11, 2007, 06:06:59 PM
That classic rock is going away.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Mr Smith on November 13, 2007, 12:14:15 AM
I've been a Beatles fan since I was a kid, not an obsession though, and fuck wearing a T-shirt of them.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Kosmonaut on November 13, 2007, 11:09:39 AM
I think they are overated myself. A boy band with a good PR agent really.
Gimme Bob Dylan, The Doors and The Velvet Underground anyday.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: odeon on November 13, 2007, 01:18:52 PM
I like The Doors and Zimmerman, to some extent.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: DirtDawg on November 13, 2007, 04:59:58 PM

PR agent?

:D

This kind of stuff gets me, after a while.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Teejay on November 17, 2007, 03:29:57 AM
Try being into stuff for a change which have very little chance of becoming trendy or hip.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Peter on November 17, 2007, 06:39:14 AM
Try being into stuff for a change which have very little chance of becoming trendy or hip.

Like wearing diapers, for instance?
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Calandale on November 17, 2007, 09:18:17 AM
Diapers, the new hot trend.
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: SovaNu on November 17, 2007, 11:16:46 AM
i want some. :P
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Soph on November 17, 2007, 11:24:04 AM
there are diapers here
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: SovaNu on November 17, 2007, 11:25:40 AM
where did you get a baby? :o
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: Soph on November 17, 2007, 11:28:18 AM
he's my mum's  :laugh:
two brothers, youngest is 3. he uses the potty now, but there are still diapers here
Title: Re: People may not take me seriosly here cause of my obsession
Post by: SovaNu on November 17, 2007, 11:31:00 AM
you are so lucky you don't have to steal any. :laugh: