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Start here => Free For ALL => Topic started by: Walkie on August 07, 2007, 03:04:46 AM
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AUTHOR’S RETROSPECTIVE DISCLAIMER/HEALTH WARNING: The following is rant should be regarded/disregarded with a healthy dose of scepticism . As in, Oops! “I’ve showed myself up for a prat, huh?†(see p.2) . Furthermore the Author wishes to express her considered opinion that she deserves to be pranked for her cheek. *humbly lays head on block *
Now read on, if you can really be arsed, erm, a-rsed , that is.
Yeah I can appreciate a joke, but whoeve messed the word the word filter so that every time we type a certain four–letter word (beginning with “aâ€), it comes out as “scrapheapâ€, should’ve thought through the implications more carefully.
This board is supposed to support the principle of “Freedom of Speech†isn’t it? Where’s the freedom of speech if our words can and will be edited, by persons unknown, on a whim? And if this was really meant to be “only a joke†why did somebody erase the whole of my two-line comment about it? which somebody found to be funny enough to quote. (No, I won’t say who quoted it or where. If you want to erase the quotation, too, go hunt for it)
I just hope that Caesar Heap gets the joke. I don’t like being forcibly conscripted into what some might call a bullying campaign against him. I hardly know the guy. All I really know about him is that he recently started making allegations against Lucifer (another of those “interesting coincidences"?) .And now, suddenly, he’s the laughing stock of the entire board, apparently.
I don’t know how this works, but I suspect that if someone tries to fix this, we’ll get all existing appearances of the word “scrapheap†appearing as “ars eâ€, which would be even more insulting.
Not funny at all, when you think about it.
Bugger it. It occurs to me that I’ll probably have to copy this post onto another board (Fractalus, perhaps, where I trust that my freedom of speech really will be respected) if I want it to stand, unmodified. What a joke.
~Walkie
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I'm confused that the word filter seems
to effect the text box.
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Yeah I can appreciate a joke, but whoeve messed the word the word filter so that every time we type a certain four–letter word (beginning with “aâ€), it comes out as “scrapheapâ€, should’ve thought through the implications more carefully.
This board is supposed to support the principle of “Freedom of Speech†isn’t it? Where’s the freedom of speech if our words can and will be edited, by persons unknown, on a whim? And if this was really meant to be “only a joke†why did somebody erase the whole of my two-line comment about it? which somebody found to be funny enough to quote. (No, I won’t say who quoted it or where. If you want to erase the quotation, too, go hunt for it)
I just hope that Caesar Heap gets the joke. I don’t like being forcibly conscripted into what some might call a bullying campaign against him. I hardly know the guy. All I really know about him is that he recently started making allegations against Lucifer (another of those “interesting coincidences"?) .And now, suddenly, he’s the laughing stock of the entire board, apparently.
I don’t know how this works, but I suspect that if someone tries to fix this, we’ll get all existing appearances of the word “scrapheap†appearing as “ars eâ€, which would be even more insulting.
Not funny at all, when you think about it.
Bugger it. It occurs to me that I’ll probably have to copy this post onto another board (Fractalus, perhaps, where I trust that my freedom of speech really will be respected) if I want it to stand, unmodified. What a joke.
~Walkie
i agree with you, drunkardswalk. however, scrapheap "started on me" ages ago, so this latest attempt at a smear campaign is based on an erroneous premise. ::) clever, though, i'll give you that.
you might be interested to know that my similar comments in the world council forum were one of the things pyraxis used as evidence for this supposed "cult of personality" of mine. does this mean you're trying to take over I2, as well? dear me - there's an epidemic.
what actually happened is that scrapheap was made admin, and - as has happened in the past - chose to play with his admin powers. people retaliated in a similar vein.
and i've quoted your post in its entirety, in an attempt to ensure it doesn't get lost in the works, as it were.
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Yes the swear filter thing is annoying but I wonder why you automatically assume its a 'bullying campagain' against scrapheap and its somehow linked to him having a go at Lucifer (are you sure you tinfoil hat is really working) ::) - in case you hadn't noticed he's the current admin who pulls the most pranks of this nature, generally on those he feels sure can take a joke (are you suggesting that he can't take a joke himself?).
The swear filter has been changed several times over the past few days to make a rse say cornhole, duncvis, scrapheap, silent dunc and now ozymandias, and what about s ex coming out as Mcj? - are all these people being picked on because they happened to piss Lucifer off??
I do agree with you that the swear filter changes are annoying though, but lets not try build another conspiracy on it because it suits your current agenda ::)
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swear filter changes = pranks. and they change back when the joke word substitution is removed. We like to play here and don't take ourselves too seriously. deal with it.
/me mutters something about people not having enough to bother about ::)
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And if this was really meant to be “only a joke†why did somebody erase the whole of my two-line comment about it?
am i misunderstanding something? did someone delte one of walkies posts?
i can laugh about the word filters but not the censorship. is the post that she refers to in the recycle bin?
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I assumed she meant when they quoted her they erased that bit out of the quote, but perhaps I read that wrong- I can't believe that any of the admins would delete someone else's post.
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And if this was really meant to be “only a joke†why did somebody erase the whole of my two-line comment about it?
am i misunderstanding something? did someone delte one of walkies posts?
i can laugh about the word filters but not the censorship. is the post that she refers to in the recycle bin?
Yes, McJ, somebody deleted - not a whole post of mine- but a section of it. And they coverered their tracks, by also deleteing that bit at the bottom that keeps track of modifications. I'd edited the posta few times myself (mostly in an effort to sucessfully post that word, then to add that comment, which later disappeared) but it now appears to be unmodified by anyone. I find this disturbing. This is precisely what convinced me that the scrapheap thing was more than just a joke.
~Walkie
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As far as I am aware there is no way of removing the 'edited by....' part when a post is edited by someone. ???
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And if this was really meant to be “only a joke†why did somebody erase the whole of my two-line comment about it?
am i misunderstanding something? did someone delte one of walkies posts?
i can laugh about the word filters but not the censorship. is the post that she refers to in the recycle bin?
Yes, McJ, somebody deleted - not a whole post of mine- but a section of it. And they coverered their tracks, by also deleteing that bit at the bottom that keeps track of modifications. I'd edited the posta few times myself (mostly in an effort to sucessfully post that word, then to add that comment, which later disappeared) but it now appears to be unmodified by anyone. I find this disturbing. This is precisely what convinced me that the scrapheap thing was more than just a joke.
~Walkie
we have fail safes in place so this doesn't happen. people are allowed to delete their own posts, and so can a few other people. but if was deleted then it will be automatically placed in the resycle bin, which is in the admin forum. i suppose if it was an admin, then they could re-delete it from there, but there will be a moderation log.
someone can get to the bottom of this, i am sure. to me, that would be a grave violation of someones rights if they were censored, here.
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Is this the post you're referring to Drunkard's walk:
d'you know what, i am sick of people assuming i have some sort of "tactic" or "motivation" because i speak/write in a certain way, and use certain language skills.
it's how i speak, it's how i've always spoken, it's part of who i am, and just cos you, or anyone else,are (is) not used to it doesn't mean there's a hidden agenda.
if anyone doesn't like the way i talk or use words, get the fuck over it.
I don’t have a problem with your writing style. Lucifer. And I wasn’t “making assumptions†but analysing this one little interchange. There’s a difference
I was referring to your use of the Straw Man fallacy to twist Pyraxis’ words, so she appears (at a casual glance) to be attacking all-and-sundry, when you know damned well that she’s only attacking you. I could go into detail, but I’m hoping that others will take the trouble to do that, so I won’t be alone in making that observation. If that’s a natural born tendency that’s so far beyond your conscious control that you don’t even realise you’re doing it., then god help you. But I don’t believe it is, not for one moment.
That’s well-known to be a pretty effective (if underhand) debating tactic. And you didn’t know it? Huh.
funnily enough, i haven't bothered to spend much time on my responses to the nonsense in the callout, and certainly haven't bothered constructing "Straw Man" fallacies. what i said, i meant - if pyraxis really thinks that i'm capable of infiltrating the minds of people on here who are very intelligent, then i'm flattered she thinks me capable. but i doubt very much i am, personally.
you seem to have been sucked into this ridiculous notion that i have some sort of crazed, power-mongering agenda behind everything i do. dictator of an internet discussion board? puhlease. ::)
everything i've said in the callout happens to be straight off the top of my head, without spending forever thinking about it. i don't expect you believe that for one moment, notwithstanding your claim to being unbiased.
personally, i find that hard to swallow, given that you've already stated that you're a close personal friend of pyraxis, and the timing of your appearance is another one of those "interesting coincidences".
Yeah, yeah, yet more straw men, and I’m sure you can churn ’em out standing on your head. It isn’t difficult..= But if I take the trouble to argue with ‘em all, then I’ll just look like a raving obsessive. And if I let some go, then I appear to agree by default. Simple, but effective. .
Like I said, Lucifer, I’ve met with these tactics before. And they prove, to my own personal satisfaction that you’re manipulative. But that’s something very different from dictatorial That’s just about the polar-fricking-opposite.of dictatorial. Don’t pretend you’re too stupid to know the difference. That’s not gonna wash with anyone who’s ever read your posts.
So who called you a dictator? Nobody Who even suggested as much? Nobody but you. So who’s stupid notion are you laughing at? Your own. Don’t try to pass it off as my idea.
I really can’t be scrapheapd with going through the whole of your post, pointing out all the straw men, If anybody’s interested in Pyraxis’ point of view, or mine, I suggest that they read the original text. Lucifer’s versions are so seriously skewed, she might as well be talking to herself
(btw- wtf is going on here. I keep trying to type "AAARRSE!!d" but it turns into- bugger it, it probably turned into the same thing again. Let's try going dyslexic, then,: I keep trying to type "ardse" but it tirns intp scrapheap'd ???)
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PS. McJ, I just checked baclk on the post (p 7 of thePyraxis vs. Vivi thread. Sorry still haven't go the hang of links) and it appears to be back the way it was- with one minor (harmless ) modification which I know I didn't make ??? And i think you were the one who quoted me , btw, but I don't have tiime to check that
So i dunno what to think. Maybe my browser loaded a redundant verasion of that thread from my temporary internet files? Can that happen? But that doesn't explain the new modification. *shrug*
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What new modification? According to the post it was last edited by you. Is it possible that the new 'modification' is down to someone messing with the word filter again?
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sometimes, when i quote someone i only quote the pertinent paragraph that i want to comment on, instead of the entire post. it makes it more efficient for anyone else to follow the conversation.
i didn't quote the entire post that you made, because i didn't find it necessary. also, if i quoted you and then you went back and edited your own post later, the quote i made would still reflect your earlier, unedited post.
does that make sense?
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What new modification? According to the post it was last edited by you. Is it possible that the new 'modification' is down to someone messing with the word filter again?
Oh! yes, that would explain it, I think. Does it apply , retrospectively to things we've already posted, then? Beause the first time I noticed it, it was modifying the word as i posted it, I thought it only applied to new posts. :-[
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as far as i know only two words have been filtered a rse and s ex.
and i suspect, but cannot prove that it was scrapheap who changed them both. i think it's funny.
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as far as i know only two words have been filtered a rse and s ex.
and i suspect, but cannot prove that it was scrapheap who changed them both. i think it's funny.
I think a rse has been changed by 3 admins at least :laugh:
There were other words that had been changed this morning- like stupid (which seems to have been changed back).
What new modification? According to the post it was last edited by you. Is it possible that the new 'modification' is down to someone messing with the word filter again?
Oh! yes, that would explain it, I think. Does it apply , retrospectively to things we've already posted, then? Beause the first time I noticed it, it was modifying the word as i posted it, I thought it only applied to new posts. :-[
I think it does yes- although perhaps not to quotes- I can't quite remember its been a long time since anyone messed around with the word filter.
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Yeah I can appreciate a joke, but whoeve messed the word the word filter so that every time we type a certain four–letter word (beginning with “aâ€), it comes out as “scrapheapâ€, should’ve thought through the implications more carefully.
This board is supposed to support the principle of “Freedom of Speech†isn’t it? Where’s the freedom of speech if our words can and will be edited, by persons unknown, on a whim? And if this was really meant to be “only a joke†why did somebody erase the whole of my two-line comment about it? which somebody found to be funny enough to quote. (No, I won’t say who quoted it or where. If you want to erase the quotation, too, go hunt for it)
I just hope that Caesar Heap gets the joke. I don’t like being forcibly conscripted into what some might call a bullying campaign against him. I hardly know the guy. All I really know about him is that he recently started making allegations against Lucifer (another of those “interesting coincidences"?) .And now, suddenly, he’s the laughing stock of the entire board, apparently.
I don’t know how this works, but I suspect that if someone tries to fix this, we’ll get all existing appearances of the word “scrapheap†appearing as “ars eâ€, which would be even more insulting.
Not funny at all, when you think about it.
Bugger it. It occurs to me that I’ll probably have to copy this post onto another board (Fractalus, perhaps, where I trust that my freedom of speech really will be respected) if I want it to stand, unmodified. What a joke.
~Walkie
There is a swear filter here. Scrapheap played with it. He changed the word A R S E to cornhole, someone changed it to Scrapheap to play with him, he changed it to Dunc, I changed it back to Scrapheap and he changed it to Callaway. Now it is AAARRSE!!. I can see how it looks like I was being mean to him, but I was playing the same way he was.
When the word is changed, all occurences of it are changed, but its effect is reversible.
If anyone changed your post, it would have last edited by whoever changed it at the bottom. There is no way to change that.
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And if this was really meant to be “only a joke†why did somebody erase the whole of my two-line comment about it?
am i misunderstanding something? did someone delte one of walkies posts?
i can laugh about the word filters but not the censorship. is the post that she refers to in the recycle bin?
Yes, McJ, somebody deleted - not a whole post of mine- but a section of it. And they coverered their tracks, by also deleteing that bit at the bottom that keeps track of modifications. I'd edited the posta few times myself (mostly in an effort to sucessfully post that word, then to add that comment, which later disappeared) but it now appears to be unmodified by anyone. I find this disturbing. This is precisely what convinced me that the scrapheap thing was more than just a joke.
~Walkie
we have fail safes in place so this doesn't happen. people are allowed to delete their own posts, and so can a few other people. but if was deleted then it will be automatically placed in the resycle bin, which is in the admin forum. i suppose if it was an admin, then they could re-delete it from there, but there will be a moderation log.
someone can get to the bottom of this, i am sure. to me, that would be a grave violation of someones rights if they were censored, here.
to me, that would be a grave violation of someones rights if they were censored, here.
I’m very glad to hear it McJ. I’m also glad that I thought of that alternative explanation :that my browser loaded a redundant internet file, dating from before my own editing attempts. The more I think about it the more likely that seems, as I’ve noticed old web pages getting resurrected before, if I lose my connection, Just never quite that old, before.
So, ho hum, I’ve; showed myself up for a prat, huh? <sheepish grin>. But that’s better than causing a panic over nowt. And infinitely better than the thought that posts are getting surreptiously censored. I’m happy to consider that issue settled , since nobody else picked up on it (nor anything like it, to judge by replies so far)
I’ll probably modify my original post, later, if I can think of a good way of doing it ( I mean, to avoid misleading the reader , but without invalidating any subsequent responses,. Which would adding to the post, rather than subtracting, I suppose ). Right now I think I should just finish another reply I had in the pipeline, then skedaddle (things to do).
~Walkie
Ps. Yes, I did follow your subsequent post. Thanks
PPS. You guys all post much to fast for me. :laugh: Il be here all day, if I try to reply to everything. I meant to quit long ago. But I do feel itt's important to clear this up ASAP
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Yes, of course it was me who started pranking with the word filter. So far it's all been in good fun. Why did somebody erase stupid=peaguy?? Peaguy asked to be pranked on.
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Callaway, you're a star (as usual)
I was hoping the "culprit" would own up, and explain what they were were doing.
But , in the light of all that emerged in the the above discussion, I don't actually think it was mean, anymore Honestly! That's not just because it was you (though that surely would swing it, if i still had any doubt)
~Walkie
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swear filter changes = pranks. and they change back when the joke word substitution is removed. We like to play here and don't take ourselves too seriously. deal with it.
/me mutters something about people not having enough to bother about ::)
Well said, Dunc.
Does anyone who takes oneself this seriously really expect others to take the one this seriously, as well? We all edit quoted posts in an effort to be concise and respond only to certain aspects of the said quoted posts. How horrid must it be when someone takes it upon themselves to highlight an edited post by using the "bold" feature?
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
Nothing left to add to this thread aside from ...
::)
... unless I can find a "razzberry" smiley.
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And if this was really meant to be “only a joke†why did somebody erase the whole of my two-line comment about it?
am i misunderstanding something? did someone delte one of walkies posts?
i can laugh about the word filters but not the censorship. is the post that she refers to in the recycle bin?
Yes, McJ, somebody deleted - not a whole post of mine- but a section of it. And they coverered their tracks, by also deleteing that bit at the bottom that keeps track of modifications. I'd edited the posta few times myself (mostly in an effort to sucessfully post that word, then to add that comment, which later disappeared) but it now appears to be unmodified by anyone. I find this disturbing. This is precisely what convinced me that the scrapheap thing was more than just a joke.
~Walkie
Walkie, there is only one post of yours in the recycle bin, which was deleted today, but I think you must have deleted it. It looks like a quote of another post of yours in this thread. It starts, "Quote from: DrunkardsWalk on Today at 08:23:13 AM" If you want me to, I can put it back. There is nothing about the deletion in the moderation log and there would be unless you deleted it yourself.
Like I said, if anyone edits anyone's post, unless you do it yourself within 90 seconds of posting, there is a note at the bottom of the post saying who modified it which can't be erased.
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swear filter changes = pranks. and they change back when the joke word substitution is removed. We like to play here and don't take ourselves too seriously. deal with it.
/me mutters something about people not having enough to bother about ::)
Well said, Dunc.
Does anyone who takes oneself this seriously really expect others to take the one this seriously, as well? We all edit quoted posts in an effort to be concise and respond only to certain aspects of the said quoted posts. How horrid must it be when someone takes it upon themselves to highlight an edited post by using the "bold" feature?
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
Nothing left to add to this thread aside from ...
::)
... unless I can find a "razzberry" smiley.
Uh-oh, I do that all the time. :razz:
I really answered because :flame: DirtDawg has the evil 666 karma! :flame:
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and they change back when the joke word substitution is removed.
Cool. This is what I expected, but the quotes
will still be off the modified text, no?
And if you modify a post, whilst the wordfilter is
on?
Test: P.I.
I wonder what will happen.
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and they change back when the joke word substitution is removed.
Cool. This is what I expected, but the quotes
will still be off the modified text, no?
And if you modify a post, whilst the wordfilter is
on?
Test: P.I.
I wonder what will happen.
I think the quotes keep what the word filter changed the word to, even when the word filter is changed.
I just saw a quoted post that had "peaguy" instead of "stupid" which is what the OP wrote.
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Callaway,
I think you must've missed my reply to McJ, above I hoped to save you (or anybody else) from going to that trouble. You really shopuldn't have! But thanks. Yes, I accidentally double-posted, I meant to edit that post, not quote it! As for the 90-second thing. That's handy to know. I'm not likely to do anything within 90-seconds of posting, as it happens :laugh:. My brain doesn't work that fast (as people probably noticed)
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swear filter changes = pranks. and they change back when the joke word substitution is removed. We like to play here and don't take ourselves too seriously. deal with it.
/me mutters something about people not having enough to bother about ::)
Well said, Dunc.
Does anyone who takes oneself this seriously really expect others to take the one this seriously, as well? We all edit quoted posts in an effort to be concise and respond only to certain aspects of the said quoted posts. How horrid must it be when someone takes it upon themselves to highlight an edited post by using the "bold" feature?
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
Nothing left to add to this thread aside from ...
::)
... unless I can find a "razzberry" smiley.
Uh-oh, I do that all the time. :razz:
I really answered because :flame: DirtDawg has the evil 666 karma! :flame:
When I noticed that 666 thing, I was only seven past having three sixes on top of four sevens.
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I just saw a quoted post that had "peaguy" instead of "stupid" which is what the OP wrote.
:clap:
I give permission to whomever to use me
in such a manner. :laugh:
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Callaway,
I think you must've missed my reply to McJ, above I hoped to save you (or anybody else) from going to that trouble. You really shopuldn't have! But thanks. Yes, I accidentally double-posted, I meant to edit that post, not quote it! As for the 90-second thing. That's handy to know. I'm not likely to do anything within 90-seconds of posting, as it happens :laugh:. My brain doesn't work that fast (as people probably noticed)
Yes, I posted before I read the whole thread carefully, then I decided to leave my reply anyway because I thought some of the information might be useful.
:)
Edit: I'm glad we have it all figured out now.
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I give permission to whomever to use me in such a manner. :laugh:
Shouldn't that go in the "Things we are sick of hearing" thread? ;)
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I give permission to whomever to use me in such a manner. :laugh:
Shouldn't that go in the "Things we are sick of hearing" thread? ;)
:LMAO:
Good one, Juliekitty.
:plus:
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Yes, of course it was me who started pranking with the word filter. So far it's all been in good fun. Why did somebody erase stupid=peaguy?? Peaguy asked to be pranked on.
Noted. I've now added the promised health warning to the top of my original post. To save y'all the trouble of checking back, it goes like this:
AUTHOR’S RETROSPECTIVE DISCLAIMER/HEALTH WARNING: The following is rant should be regarded/disregarded with a healthy dose of scepticism . As in, Oops! “I’ve showed myself up for a prat, huh?†(see p.2) . Furthermore the Author wishes to express her considered opinion that she deserves to be pranked for her cheek. *humbly lays head on block *
Now read on, if you can really be AAARRSE!!d, erm, a-rsed , that is.
Of course, i won't hold my breath. I pobably don't deserve the attention :violin:
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i agree with you, drunkardswalk. however, scrapheap "started on me" ages ago, so this latest attempt at a smear campaign is based on an erroneous premise. ::) clever, though, i'll give you that.
you might be interested to know that my similar comments in the world council forum were one of the things pyraxis used as evidence for this supposed "cult of personality" of mine. does this mean you're trying to take over I2, as well? dear me - there's an epidemic.
what actually happened is that scrapheap was made admin, and - as has happened in the past - chose to play with his admin powers. people retaliated in a similar vein.
and i've quoted your post in its entirety, in an attempt to ensure it doesn't get lost in the works, as it were.
Much appreciated Lucifer. It’s good to know that you take such issues seriously, and that you’re willing to put aside personal differences . etceteras However:
So, whenever somebody points out an “interesting coincidence†, they’re initiating a “smear campaign†are they? I’ll have to bear that in mind, when reading your posts. :laugh:
I’m glad to find that my suspicions (re. that coincidence) were off-beam; but that’s all they were: suspicions, not assumptions (And they’ve now been answered more than adequately) I’m not half so sure about yours.
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I give permission to whomever to use me in such a manner. :laugh:
Shouldn't that go in the "Things we are sick of hearing" thread? ;)
Normally, my standards prevent me from allowing
humans so close.
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I think that the scrapheap/word filter thing is totally fair game, since he was screwing with the site as admin anyway. Like he said, it's all in good fun. I also think it's sort of melodramatic to make some sort of connection between the word filter and repressed speech, because it becomes pretty obvious pretty quickly which words are which. One of the things I like about this site is that it doesn't take itself too seriously, and the people here recognize that when it boils down to it it's just a internet message board and not fucking global politics.
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we are win at internets. :dance:
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I am so my grandmother.
:bunny: