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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Teejay on August 01, 2007, 07:21:11 AM
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I heard there are like 20 million illegal immigrants and their children in the USA (comparable to 1.3 million in Australia and 4 million in UK). Why hasn't the government there done anything to prevent more illegal immigrants coming like border fencing, vastly more patrols, serious punishment for employers who hire illegal immigrants and make life as unpleasant as possible for those wanting to enter the USA illegally.
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I heard there are like 20 million illegal immigrants and their children in the USA (comparable to 1.3 million in Australia and 4 million in UK). Why hasn't the government there done anything to prevent more illegal immigrants coming like border fencing, vastly more patrols, serious punishment for employers who hire illegal immigrants and make life as unpleasant as possible for those wanting to enter the USA illegally.
Teejay, what's your point? The number of illegal immigrants per capita in UK (4/60) and Australia (1.3/21) are are roughly the same as in the US (20/300).
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you have to ask?
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I heard there are like 20 million illegal immigrants and their children in the USA (comparable to 1.3 million in Australia and 4 million in UK). Why hasn't the government there done anything to prevent more illegal immigrants coming like border fencing, vastly more patrols, serious punishment for employers who hire illegal immigrants and make life as unpleasant as possible for those wanting to enter the USA illegally.
Erm, because these illegals actaully benefit the US economy. Also the US is a bigger nation, so if you scale it you have less of a problem than the UK and Aus. May I ask, why do you hate illegals so much?
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I heard there are like 20 million illegal immigrants and their children in the USA (comparable to 1.3 million in Australia and 4 million in UK). Why hasn't the government there done anything to prevent more illegal immigrants coming like border fencing, vastly more patrols, serious punishment for employers who hire illegal immigrants and make life as unpleasant as possible for those wanting to enter the USA illegally.
The US is now dependent on illegal immigrant labour in many places, thus it's unprofitable to be too harsh on them. Still, political factors demand that something is seen to be done, and thus many illegal immigrants are intercepted or die in their attempt due to natural hazards they have to navigate to get into the US. I suspect it's the same in the UK and Australia; the desire of the general public to get rid of them has to be balanced by the desire of businesses to keep and encourage them, while maintaining their illegality (so that they have no legal protection and can be exploited for profit).
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I heard there are like 20 million illegal immigrants and their children in the USA (comparable to 1.3 million in Australia and 4 million in UK). Why hasn't the government there done anything to prevent more illegal immigrants coming like border fencing, vastly more patrols, serious punishment for employers who hire illegal immigrants and make life as unpleasant as possible for those wanting to enter the USA illegally.
Erm, because these illegals actaully benefit the US economy. Also the US is a bigger nation, so if you scale it you have less of a problem than the UK and Aus. May I ask, why do you hate illegals so much?
He's our resident bigot. He luvvs the Muslims, too. :P
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I heard there are like 20 million illegal immigrants and their children in the USA (comparable to 1.3 million in Australia and 4 million in UK). Why hasn't the government there done anything to prevent more illegal immigrants coming like border fencing, vastly more patrols, serious punishment for employers who hire illegal immigrants and make life as unpleasant as possible for those wanting to enter the USA illegally.
The US is now dependent on illegal immigrant labour in many places, thus it's unprofitable to be too harsh on them. Still, political factors demand that something is seen to be done, and thus many illegal immigrants are intercepted or die in their attempt due to natural hazards they have to navigate to get into the US. I suspect it's the same in the UK and Australia; the desire of the general public to get rid of them has to be balanced by the desire of businesses to keep and encourage them, while maintaining their illegality (so that they have no legal protection and can be exploited for profit).
Yes and we also pay to educate their children in their native language and pay for their medical bills. Where's the discrepancy?
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There has to be a better plan, but the polititians stumble over themselves trying to come out on the right side of this issue.
BTW, the right side means getting re-elected.
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I heard there are like 20 million illegal immigrants and their children in the USA (comparable to 1.3 million in Australia and 4 million in UK). Why hasn't the government there done anything to prevent more illegal immigrants coming like border fencing, vastly more patrols, serious punishment for employers who hire illegal immigrants and make life as unpleasant as possible for those wanting to enter the USA illegally.
Erm, because these illegals actaully benefit the US economy. Also the US is a bigger nation, so if you scale it you have less of a problem than the UK and Aus. May I ask, why do you hate illegals so much?
He's our resident bigot. He luvvs the Muslims, too. :P
Lol, did he vote for Bush?
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I heard there are like 20 million illegal immigrants and their children in the USA (comparable to 1.3 million in Australia and 4 million in UK). Why hasn't the government there done anything to prevent more illegal immigrants coming like border fencing, vastly more patrols, serious punishment for employers who hire illegal immigrants and make life as unpleasant as possible for those wanting to enter the USA illegally.
Erm, because these illegals actaully benefit the US economy. Also the US is a bigger nation, so if you scale it you have less of a problem than the UK and Aus. May I ask, why do you hate illegals so much?
He's our resident bigot. He luvvs the Muslims, too. :P
Lol, did he vote for Bush?
I don't believe he had the opportunity.
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That's what Area 51 is for, no?
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That's what Area 51 is for, no?
voting for Bush? :o
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That's what Area 51 is for, no?
voting for Bush? :o
Yes, obviously.
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That's what Area 51 is for, no?
voting for Bush? :o
Funny a place famed for its aliens would vote for Bush...
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That's what Area 51 is for, no?
voting for Bush? :o
Funny a place famed for its aliens would vote for Bush...
that's what i thought, too. not all aliens are illegal. they're just locked up.
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or beaming people up in airports. :P
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looking for parking spaces, too, probably. :P
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looking for parking spaces, too, probably. :P
It depends what side of the force their spaceship is on...
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looking for parking spaces, too, probably. :P
:LMAO: :clap:
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looking for parking spaces, too, probably. :P
It depends what side of the force their spaceship is on...
only the disabled ones can be arsed, though.
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:laugh:
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Teejay, what's your point? The number of illegal immigrants per capita in UK (4/60) and Australia (1.3/21) are are roughly the same as in the US (20/300).
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Oh Sorry I was saying that 20 million illegal immigrants and their childern in the USA would be the same as 4 million in UK and 1.3 million in Australia. There are only 50,000 illegal immigrants here in Australia.
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Teejay, what's your point? The number of illegal immigrants per capita in UK (4/60) and Australia (1.3/21) are are roughly the same as in the US (20/300).
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Oh Sorry I was saying that 20 million illegal immigrants and their childern in the USA would be the same as 4 million in UK and 1.3 million in Australia. There are only 50,000 illegal immigrants here in Australia.
Depends on the type. Illegal swedes would be pretty safe,
in terms of number of kids. Then again, many Mexicans don't
bring the little ones.
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Teejay, what's your point? The number of illegal immigrants per capita in UK (4/60) and Australia (1.3/21) are are roughly the same as in the US (20/300).
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Oh Sorry I was saying that 20 million illegal immigrants and their childern in the USA would be the same as 4 million in UK and 1.3 million in Australia. There are only 50,000 illegal immigrants here in Australia.
They are all estimates though. The fact is no country knows how many illegals the country has, i have heard of estimates of up to 2 million for the UK.
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Teejay, what's your point? The number of illegal immigrants per capita in UK (4/60) and Australia (1.3/21) are are roughly the same as in the US (20/300).
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Oh Sorry I was saying that 20 million illegal immigrants and their childern in the USA would be the same as 4 million in UK and 1.3 million in Australia. There are only 50,000 illegal immigrants here in Australia.
And in what way are Australia and the UK comparable with the US? From where would they get their illegal immigrants? Boat refugees from Ireland or New Zealand?
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Teejay, what's your point? The number of illegal immigrants per capita in UK (4/60) and Australia (1.3/21) are are roughly the same as in the US (20/300).
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Oh Sorry I was saying that 20 million illegal immigrants and their childern in the USA would be the same as 4 million in UK and 1.3 million in Australia. There are only 50,000 illegal immigrants here in Australia.
And in what way are Australia and the UK comparable with the US? From where would they get their illegal immigrants? Boat refugees from Ireland or New Zealand?
For us (UK) they walk through the tunnel (or ride the back of a lorry) , catch a plane or take a boat.
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Teejay, what's your point? The number of illegal immigrants per capita in UK (4/60) and Australia (1.3/21) are are roughly the same as in the US (20/300).
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Oh Sorry I was saying that 20 million illegal immigrants and their childern in the USA would be the same as 4 million in UK and 1.3 million in Australia. There are only 50,000 illegal immigrants here in Australia.
And in what way are Australia and the UK comparable with the US? From where would they get their illegal immigrants? Boat refugees from Ireland or New Zealand?
For us (UK) they walk through the tunnel (or ride the back of a lorry) , catch a plane or take a boat.
I didn't know you could walk through the chunnel.... isn't it close to 30 miles long or something??
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I heard there are like 20 million illegal immigrants and their children in the USA (comparable to 1.3 million in Australia and 4 million in UK). Why hasn't the government there done anything to prevent more illegal immigrants coming like border fencing, vastly more patrols, serious punishment for employers who hire illegal immigrants and make life as unpleasant as possible for those wanting to enter the USA illegally.
it is a tough issue. it kinda goes against our philosophy and history to completely close the borders.
and, if you are really curious, then i suggest you follow the money trail. that usually points to the logic of the seemingly illogical.
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Yeah, it's pretty obvious why Bush is so illegal immigrant friendly, if you think about it.
It's definitely true that there's no way to know exactly how many illegals there are; in this city, the Hispanic population is supposed to be something like 30% according to the last census, but I'd place it more around 50%.
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I heard there are like 20 million illegal immigrants and their children in the USA (comparable to 1.3 million in Australia and 4 million in UK). Why hasn't the government there done anything to prevent more illegal immigrants coming like border fencing, vastly more patrols, serious punishment for employers who hire illegal immigrants and make life as unpleasant as possible for those wanting to enter the USA illegally.
Teejay, what's your point? The number of illegal immigrants per capita in UK (4/60) and Australia (1.3/21) are are roughly the same as in the US (20/300).
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qft.
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And in what way are Australia and the UK comparable with the US? From where would they get their illegal immigrants? Boat refugees from Ireland or New Zealand?
Our illegal immigrants are visa over stayers, we used to have some coming by boats from Indonesia (they came from places like Iraq and Afghanistan in first place) and claiming asylum, before the government decided to process them on islands like Nauru.
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it is a tough issue. it kinda goes against our philosophy and history to completely close the borders.
and, if you are really curious, then i suggest you follow the money trail. that usually points to the logic of the seemingly illogical.
I'm not advocating in cutting legal immigration, just stopping illegal immigration. We in Australia are very serious about stopping illegal immigration and actually what happened is that public support for immigration increased, not decreased. I feel for Americans as for Australians, they see the illegal immigration issue as a issue of people obeying the law, rather than we hate the Spics.
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He's our resident bigot. He luvvs the Muslims, too. :P
I do hate Islam as a religion, like many hate Christianity and trash it, but that is not a crime.
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He's our resident bigot. He luvvs the Muslims, too. :P
I do hate Islam as a religion, like many hate Christianity and trash it, but that is not a crime.
No, it's not a crime to be a bigot. It's just moronic.
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this thread was far more interesting when it was about car parks.
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this thread was far more interesting when it was about car parks.
But we could start a new thread for that. :P
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yes!!!
you do it, then, cos it'll be more of a surprise. ;)