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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: jman on July 21, 2007, 12:44:02 PM
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Looks like autismspeaks has decided to extend their propaganda to starbucks: http://www.autismspeaks.org/inthenews/starbucks_cup.php
Nothing like starting your day with a nice fresh cup of starbucks and reading a bleak description of a delvelopmental disability. ::)
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but i love starbucks. :( >:( this sucks.
fucking starbucks. i'm not going there anymore.
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Starbuck's coffee sucks anyway.
Too burnt.
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Starbuck's coffee sucks anyway.
Too burnt.
Make your own coffee, you lazy bastard.
Anyway, coffee is fucking coffee, despite the variety of brands.
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I have a gift certificate for 10 bucks I got from lady in the office complex I work at. I have had it for months and still have not used it.
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starbuck's is just the same as all the other multinational corporation fuckers. good - i hope they lose custom hand over fist.
(although, naturally, it's the workers who'll also suffer, as per. grrrrrrrrrrrrr :grrr: )
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Starbuck's coffee sucks anyway.
Too burnt.
Make your own coffee, you lazy bastard.
Anyway, coffee is fucking coffee, despite the variety of brands.
1. I don't have the equipment to roast it.
I BREW my own, but I don't like a burnt roast.
Starbuck's just doesn't seem to understand dark
without burning. Luckily, lots of places do.
2. NO. Arabica beans are garbage, to begin with -
no matter how popular. They should never be used
for a dark roast.
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They're building a $tarbucks in my second bedroom. Those fuckers are everywhere.
True story: I was meeting my sister and brother-in-law at their hotel in Vegas. They told us to meet them at the Starbucks. We waited and waited only to find out later that there were three of them.
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They build them DIRECTLY across the street
from one another. Seriously. For people too
lazy to cross the street.
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They're building a $tarbucks in my second bedroom. Those fuckers are everywhere.
True story: I was meeting my sister and brother-in-law at their hotel in Vegas. They told us to meet them at the Starbucks. We waited and waited only to find out later that there were three of them.
:laugh: Fucking douchebags.
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:agreed:
They build them DIRECTLY across the street
from one another. Seriously. For people too
lazy to cross the street.
that is terrifying.
is it true that there are places in america where you literally HAVE to use a car, cos there's no way of getting anywhere by foot?
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is it true that there are places in america where you literally HAVE to use a car, cos there's no way of getting anywhere by foot?
Not that I've seen.
But, I've not been to LA.
NJ was pretty bad, but as
long as you don't mind walking
on a 1 foot shoulder of a highway,
with no lighting, and nowhere to
jump, you can walk most places.
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:agreed:
They build them DIRECTLY across the street
from one another. Seriously. For people too
lazy to cross the street.
that is terrifying.
is it true that there are places in america where you literally HAVE to use a car, cos there's no way of getting anywhere by foot?
Well it is a big fuck-off country, so...
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:agreed:
They build them DIRECTLY across the street
from one another. Seriously. For people too
lazy to cross the street.
that is terrifying.
is it true that there are places in america where you literally HAVE to use a car, cos there's no way of getting anywhere by foot?
The bigger cities are much better about it. I lived in the SF Bay area for years without a car. When I lived in Kansas, you had to have one. Zero public transportation, and everything is so sprawled out that it would take an hour to walk to the grocers. I had to drive an hour to Wichita in order to get some decent food, everything in the town was crappy chains. It felt like the ending of Goodfellas, "After I got here I ordered spaghetti with marina sauce..and I got egg noodles with ketchup."
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My aunt and uncle and I don't need a car to get food. There is a grocery store two blocks away where we live but they still use a car when they go grocery shopping because the store they shop at they have membership and the food is cheaper. It's Costco and you need a car when you buy a lot of groceries. You can't take it all on the bus. But they go to the grocery store in our neighborhood when they need a few things like milk or butter pr bread.
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only a nobody walks in L.A.
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only a nobody walks in L.A.
Of course. It's too hot to walk. I can't stand hot air, I'm sure other LAers feel the same way and are effected by it too.
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Well I write an Autism magazine about what it's like for me having autism and it bashes Autism speaks and why to ditch those curbies i think I will go to every Starbucks and randomly put my magazines in there without their pemission. I'll just stick some on the public wasroom counter.
The magazine includes my e-mail adress....this will be interesting....wait! Do'h I live in Canada! maby this is just American...oh well.....
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...it would take an hour to walk to the grocers.
Takes me 45 mins. Pain in the ass.
And the buses (there are some) don't work too
well for my shopping.
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only a nobody walks in L.A.
Look ahead as we pass, try and focus on it
I won't be fooled by a cheap cinematic trick
It must have been just a cardboard cut out of a man
Top-forty cast off from a record stand
Walkin' in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A., nobody walks in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A., nobody walks in L.A.
I don't know could've been a lame jogger maybe
Or someone just about to do the freeway strangler baby
Shopping cart pusher or maybe someone groovie
One thing's for sure, he isn't starring in the movies.
'Cause he's walkin' in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A., nobody walks in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A., only a nobody walks in L.A.
Walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
You won't see a cop walkin' on the beat
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
You only see 'em drivin' cars out on the street
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
You won't see a kid walkin' home from school
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
Their mothers pick 'em up in a car pool
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
Walkin' in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A., nobody walks in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A., nobody walks in L.A.
Could it be that the smog's playing tricks on my eyes
or is it a rollerskater in some kind of headphone disguise
Maybe somebody who just ran out of gas,
Making his way back to the pumps the best way he can.
Walkin' in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A., nobody walks in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A., nobody walks in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A., nobody walks in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A.
Walkin' in L.A., only a nobody walks in L.A.
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
Nobody's walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin' walkin'
Nobody walks in L.A
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:agreed:
They build them DIRECTLY across the street
from one another. Seriously. For people too
lazy to cross the street.
that is terrifying.
is it true that there are places in america where you literally HAVE to use a car, cos there's no way of getting anywhere by foot?
Yep depends on where you live and how spread out it is. Jacksonville is spread out like LA in some ways as it has the most square miles of any city in the nation. I can walk to a local convenience store, but I would prefer to ride my bike the 3/4 mile I need for the actual grocery store. What is funnier is that I used to ride my bike upwards of 10+ miles to go places before I could drive. Most of what I need is close by, the Mall and movie theaters are about 5 miles away (which obviously are not needed). We have 3 Blockbuster videos and a 2 video game stores within a 5 mile radius of my neigborhood. I drive way too much and the highway system here is not so hot imo. The autobahn system in Germany made it look like total shit.
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nightmare. i'd die - i walk everywhere. i can't even begin to say how bad it is that people drive a matter of yards - pollution, obesity, tarmac and car parks everywhere, the utter horror of shopping malls...
i think i may well end up giving up the fight, becoming a hermit and ignoring the world - it's too vile to live in. :'(
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Another guy I had met in downtown, we met up at Starbucks. We met online and then decided to meet up.
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i walk too, i've never wanted or needed a car of my own. i'm a lazy mofo but the day i can't be assed to walk to the store that's 5 minutes away, feel free to slap me hard. ::) it's amazing some people drive to go a nearby grocery store.
and someone told me that where they live (in the 'burbs) they don't have sidewalks at all so people have to drive everywhere. and she said that she has to drive to go for a walk. that's insane.
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I try and walk or catch the bus as much as I can. I have my own car but it costs a lot with petrol prices and all.
I feel fortunate that I live in the part of town that has a small shopping centre and a bus route close by.
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Can I ask what is so bad about mentioning autism on a coffee cup?
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Can I ask what is so bad about mentioning autism on a coffee cup?
Nothing, when it's for the purpose of helping autistic people. Unfortunately, Autism Speaks doesn't speak for autistic people; it speaks for the families of autistic people, so that they can publicly and loudly whine about how awful they are, and what a hell their lives are for being burdened by an autistic person, and how the world would be so much better without autistic people in it.
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Can I ask what is so bad about mentioning autism on a coffee cup?
Because it pisses off the non-curbies who are fed up with the "Cure Autism now!" rhetoric.
There is no valid scientific evidence to suggest that autism is what they say it is. Read about Laurent Mottron and Michelle Dawson for more info.
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There's a starbucks in the basement of my college's library. :laugh:
Dunkin Donuts still pwns the campus, though. We have two right on campus, and in this area of Massachusetts you can't spit without hitting a DD's; there's at least one DD's within a three minute's walk of one of the campus parking lots.
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only a nobody walks in L.A.
People don't even walk from a parking space in LA, that's why they have valet parking everywhere you go there.
I've known people who drive to the end of their driveway to get the mail.
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I've known people who drive to the end of their driveway to get the mail.
My mom would do this.
On the bright side, 'twas
a rather steep 1/4 mile or
so.
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Why dont some of you take a wifi jammer into starbucks, it will kill their business.. (would do this myself but dont live in US)
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only a nobody walks in L.A.
People don't even walk from a parking space in LA, that's why they have valet parking everywhere you go there.
I've known people who drive to the end of their driveway to get the mail.
please. stop. it really depresses me. :'(
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only a nobody walks in L.A.
People don't even walk from a parking space in LA, that's why they have valet parking everywhere you go there.
I've known people who drive to the end of their driveway to get the mail.
please. stop. it really depresses me. :'(
In america they dont have pavements half the time though... In britain we have them, and they are here to stay...
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Can I ask what is so bad about mentioning autism on a coffee cup?
Nothing, when it's for the purpose of helping autistic people. Unfortunately, Autism Speaks doesn't speak for autistic people; it speaks for the families of autistic people, so that they can publicly and loudly whine about how awful they are, and what a hell their lives are for being burdened by an autistic person, and how the world would be so much better without autistic people in it.
OK.
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they're like the fuckers who want to "cure" the mutants in XMEN
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they're like the fuckers who want to "cure" the mutants in XMEN
Yes, only these people are looking at us (and my kids).
I wasn't quite in the know about these people when they became involved in a consultation on my son's case. One of the upper people at the county level, who we need approval from for additional services at school, is a member and brought another member into our meeting. After hearing what they had to say, though, I was a little pissed that they were even aware of us. I did get a chance to express myself a bit to the school psychologist and our case worker, after they left. I was polite, but I made sure that everyone at our school knew that their involvement with my kids was not welcome.
We are not poor, pitiful parents ...
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Good for you Dirtdawg- I'd have been fucking fuming if one of those bunch of twunts turned up at a meeting about my child too. :plus:
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yeah what PI said. :plus:
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Thanks, guys, but I have quite a lot of incentive where my kids are concerned. It's like my last shot at doing anything right, if you know what I mean.
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yeah. i don't want kids cuz i'd be so afraid of fucking things up.
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Arent we aspies effectively banned from having kids anyway, I assume if we do so there is a big chance of the Social people coming to take them away after deciding we are unsuitable.
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How can one "ruin" Starbucks? that place is ruin.
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Arent we aspies effectively banned from having kids anyway, I assume if we do so there is a big chance of the Social people coming to take them away after deciding we are unsuitable.
They've never had any contact with us- Dunc has an AS DX, as does our eldest child.
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Arent we aspies effectively banned from having kids anyway, I assume if we do so there is a big chance of the Social people coming to take them away after deciding we are unsuitable.
They've never had any contact with us- Dunc has an AS DX, as does our eldest child.
Oh right are you NT then? Seriously though, social workers vary up and down the country, it could very well be a total lottery, and the depth of paper on me means i would be reviewed to begin with.
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I doubt I'm an NT but I haven't gone for an official DX- mainly because I'd rather stop having sex than have to talk to some stranger about the problems I have and also because I saw now much of a fight it was for Dunc to get one. It took nearly 2 years for him to get the local NHS trust to agree to pay to see the private Dr (who is the only one in this area that can DX adults).
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Arent we aspies effectively banned from having kids anyway, I assume if we do so there is a big chance of the Social people coming to take them away after deciding we are unsuitable.
aspies aren't banned from being parents. ::)
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I doubt I'm an NT but I haven't gone for an official DX- mainly because I'd rather stop having sex than have to talk to some stranger about the problems I have and also because I saw now much of a fight it was for Dunc to get one. It took nearly 2 years for him to get the local NHS trust to agree to pay to see the private Dr (who is the only one in this area that can DX adults).
Oh yeah, the NHS adult diagnosis system is supposed to be awful. My problem is that I have been diagnosed very young, so i am in the system already, i doubt they would give me a chance if i chose to have kids. You already had your kids for a few years before any diagnoses, and if your kid has been looked after so long how can he/she (sorry dont know gender) be taken away?
Oh and Bjork, we are not banned from being parents, but i doubt its unlikely that they will take kids away after birth...
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you doubt it's unlikely? :P
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Our son was 6 when he got his DX- but social services have never been in contact with us ever to check our 'suitability' to be parents. I've never heard of any kids being taken off AS parents but I suppose it probably has happened. :(
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i haven't heard of that either. Harry doesn't know what he's saying. ::)
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i haven't heard of that either. Harry doesn't know what he's saying. ::)
Its an understandable fear though- Social services are shit at actually deciding who shouldn't have kids.
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you doubt it's unlikely? :P
Yup, it wudnt surprise me if stacks of aspies get their kids taken away, possibly even at birth...
Oh PI, the fact that your son was 6 means that they wouldnt have suspected parents, it would have been when Dunc got diagnosed you could have had a problem. As for aspies getting taken away, i think i glanced a few articles where it has happened...
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i haven't heard of that either. Harry doesn't know what he's saying. ::)
Its an understandable fear though- Social services are shit at actually deciding who shouldn't have kids.
true. unfortunately. but i think when you have no reason to think they would take your kids away for being an aspie it's not good getting all paranoid either. i mean does hagrid have anything to back up his claims of it being likely?
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you doubt it's unlikely? :P
Yup, it wudnt surprise me if stacks of aspies get their kids taken away, possibly even at birth...
Oh PI, the fact that your son was 6 means that they wouldnt have suspected parents, it would have been when Dunc got diagnosed you could have had a problem. As for aspies getting taken away, i think i glanced a few articles where it has happened...
you're just talking out of your butt. a few cases makes not a majority.
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you doubt it's unlikely? :P
Yup, it wudnt surprise me if stacks of aspies get their kids taken away, possibly even at birth...
Oh PI, the fact that your son was 6 means that they wouldnt have suspected parents, it would have been when Dunc got diagnosed you could have had a problem. As for aspies getting taken away, i think i glanced a few articles where it has happened...
you're just talking out of your butt. a few cases makes not a majority.
Put it like this, people around me quite agressively attempt to persuade me not to have kids. As for articles, some of them were quite a while back, but there was something Minnette Marrin (she is a colummist for the sunday times) wrote about a year ago that got to me, which suggested some attitude witin social services against it.
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Social services generally don't take kids away from their parents unless there's a hell of a lot of evidence that a the kids are being neglected or abused in some way. Locally social services have been involved with a single parent family for years- the mother regularly drinks so much she passes out drunk, she abandons her kids with neighbours to go out drinking and taking drugs, she has abusive boyfriends, and her eldest son has been in trouble with the police since he was 7 (including robbing someone at knife point with an older kid when he was only 10) and still they consider her a 'fit' parent.
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i walk too, i've never wanted or needed a car of my own. i'm a lazy mofo but the day i can't be assed to walk to the store that's 5 minutes away, feel free to slap me hard. ::) it's amazing some people drive to go a nearby grocery store.
what if you are shopping for a family of five, for the week.
how are you expected to carry all those groceries.
and, don't you like icecream. what if it melts?
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you doubt it's unlikely? :P
Yup, it wudnt surprise me if stacks of aspies get their kids taken away, possibly even at birth...
Oh PI, the fact that your son was 6 means that they wouldnt have suspected parents, it would have been when Dunc got diagnosed you could have had a problem. As for aspies getting taken away, i think i glanced a few articles where it has happened...
you're just talking out of your butt. a few cases makes not a majority.
Put it like this, people around me quite agressively attempt to persuade me not to have kids.
what people are these?
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i walk too, i've never wanted or needed a car of my own. i'm a lazy mofo but the day i can't be assed to walk to the store that's 5 minutes away, feel free to slap me hard. ::) it's amazing some people drive to go a nearby grocery store.
what if you are shopping for a family of five, for the week.
how are you expected to carry all those groceries.
and, don't you like icecream. what if it melts?
i buy for the day. usually just wine. :P ice cream has calories.
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Social services generally don't take kids away from their parents unless there's a hell of a lot of evidence that a the kids are being neglected or abused in some way. Locally social services have been involved with a single parent family for years- the mother regularly drinks so much she passes out drunk, she abandons her kids with neighbours to go out drinking and taking drugs, she has abusive boyfriends, and her eldest son has been in trouble with the police since he was 7 (including robbing someone at knife point with an older kid when he was only 10) and still they consider her a 'fit' parent.
You seriously havent read my file though, and also in alot of places that sort of behavior would get the kid taken away. I do know someone quite well (I dont think she knows I am an Aspie) who actually makes those decisions, so i do have a measure for what happens.
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you doubt it's unlikely? :P
Yup, it wudnt surprise me if stacks of aspies get their kids taken away, possibly even at birth...
Oh PI, the fact that your son was 6 means that they wouldnt have suspected parents, it would have been when Dunc got diagnosed you could have had a problem. As for aspies getting taken away, i think i glanced a few articles where it has happened...
you're just talking out of your butt. a few cases makes not a majority.
Put it like this, people around me quite agressively attempt to persuade me not to have kids.
what people are these?
Close Family members mainly, but also some others that I know. It could be because they dont want me to bring another aspie into the world, shock horror...
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you doubt it's unlikely? :P
Yup, it wudnt surprise me if stacks of aspies get their kids taken away, possibly even at birth...
Oh PI, the fact that your son was 6 means that they wouldnt have suspected parents, it would have been when Dunc got diagnosed you could have had a problem. As for aspies getting taken away, i think i glanced a few articles where it has happened...
you're just talking out of your butt. a few cases makes not a majority.
Put it like this, people around me quite agressively attempt to persuade me not to have kids.
what people are these?
Close Family members mainly, but also some others that I know. It could be because they dont want me to bring another aspie into the world, shock horror...
Are you sure that's the reason people don't want you reproducing and raising a child?
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i walk too, i've never wanted or needed a car of my own. i'm a lazy mofo but the day i can't be assed to walk to the store that's 5 minutes away, feel free to slap me hard. ::) it's amazing some people drive to go a nearby grocery store.
what if you are shopping for a family of five, for the week.
how are you expected to carry all those groceries.
and, don't you like icecream. what if it melts?
Take their kids away ...
::)
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you doubt it's unlikely? :P
Yup, it wudnt surprise me if stacks of aspies get their kids taken away, possibly even at birth...
Oh PI, the fact that your son was 6 means that they wouldnt have suspected parents, it would have been when Dunc got diagnosed you could have had a problem. As for aspies getting taken away, i think i glanced a few articles where it has happened...
you're just talking out of your butt. a few cases makes not a majority.
Put it like this, people around me quite agressively attempt to persuade me not to have kids.
what people are these?
Close Family members mainly, but also some others that I know. It could be because they dont want me to bring another aspie into the world, shock horror...
Are you sure that's the reason people don't want you reproducing and raising a child?
The aspie one could be more plausible, I did suggest that I could plan a mass sperm donation programme to make lots of aspies, didnt go down well with family...
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your family members seem to be idiots. no offense. :P
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your family members seem to be idiots. no offense. :P
No they are just scared of having lots of extra aspie relatives, apparently I was total chaos when I was alot younger... As for the sperm donation programme, it would be an ingenous publicity stunt if it were pulled off...
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i'm not saying having an aspie child is easy but the best people to care for them are usually aspies.
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i'm not saying having an aspie child is easy but the best people to care for them are usually aspies.
Obviously, but apparently I was particuarly bad... The idea is that these aspie children of mine dont exist so i dont have to care for them, so the cuckoo sperm donation plan sort of appeals to me.
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lol.
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:cuckoo: lol.
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Anyway milla, are you ever planning on kids yourself?
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no.
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no.
Hmm, do you have a particular reason for not wanting to do so?
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poopy diapers.
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poopy diapers.
lol, and when they pass that stage...?
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poopy diapers.
lol, and when they pass that stage...?
how can they pass that stage? :P
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poopy diapers.
lol, and when they pass that stage...?
how can they pass that stage? :P
You are not going to raise them into Spokane Girls are you...?
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no. :laugh:
i'm not having kids so that question is irrelevant. :)
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no. :laugh:
i'm not having kids so that question is irrelevant. :)
Ok, who persuaded you not to?
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i don't like poopy diapers. :P that convinced me.
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C'mon Bjork, you know you can always adopt kids. You can skip the diaper stage. Just adopt a child that is already toilet trained.
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There was an aspie mother in Wales who got her baby taken away. There was an article posted on WP about it. It was taken from her just because she has AS.
I want to have kids. I hope to have aspie ones or auties. I wonder if I am in the system. Maybe I can ask my mother. Maybe she know. I hope no one tries to take my kids away over a DX I have. I can just tell them I don't have it and it was just given to me so my parents can get power over my school because they wanted to put me in a class with violent kids which is the truth and the AS DX was the only way to stop them and give me the education I needed. I gotta admit it has helped me in life and helped my parents understand me better and they did stop getting mad at me about my behavior; obsessions, playing with younger kids, anxiety, crying, and it got my mother to stop telling me to stop acting like a two year old or stop actling like a second grader, all that shit and me feeling bad about myself.
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C'mon Bjork, you know you can always adopt kids. You can skip the diaper stage. Just adopt a child that is already toilet trained.
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There was an aspie mother in Wales who got her baby taken away. There was an article posted on WP about it. It was taken from her just because she has AS.
I want to have kids. I hope to have aspie ones or auties. I wonder if I am in the system. Maybe I can ask my mother. Maybe she know. I hope no one tries to take my kids away over a DX I have. I can just tell them I don't have it and it was just given to me so my parents can get power over my school because they wanted to put me in a class with violent kids which is the truth and the AS DX was the only way to stop them and give me the education I needed. I gotta admit it has helped me in life and helped my parents understand me better and they did stop getting mad at me about my behavior; obsessions, playing with younger kids, anxiety, crying, and it got my mother to stop telling me to stop acting like a two year old or stop actling like a second grader, all that shit and me feeling bad about myself.
Do you have any idea what adopted kids are like Spokane Girl. These kids have way more problems than poopy diapers at that age if you adopt them.
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Never thought of that.
Just like my parents could have given me up when I was little and have someone else take care of me and where would I be now. Maybe not as far as I have gotten where I am now. I was lot of work to raise but my parents will never admit it. My mother just says I was fun to raise and she has learned a lot from me. She still gets frustrated with me to this day.
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there are other reasons. poopy diapers is just something i couldn't get over easily. but i shouldn't have kids, i can't even take care of myself by myself.
but anyway. this girl who was AS, did she do anything that would make the child services think she shouldn't have kids or did they just show up one day and snatch her kids without any evidence of wrongdoing?
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there are other reasons. poopy diapers is just something i couldn't get over easily. but i shouldn't have kids, i can't even take care of myself by myself.
but anyway. this girl who was AS, did she do anything that would make the child services think she shouldn't have kids or did they just show up one day and snatch her kids without any evidence of wrongdoing?
If I remember the article, her kid was going to be nabbed before she was born, despite having a NT boyfriend and family who could help her.
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You are making a good choice then. I'm afraid of having a baby by myself and having it dying because I failed to take good care of it or failed to give it enough food and I go to prison for it because the baby died. I'd rather have a partner when I have kids. I am also afraid of I'd drop it too. I have tendancy to drop stuff. I have even dropped my own handheld game systems and CD player.
I'm surprised how there are aspies out there who can't take care of themselves and the criteria says no delay in self help skills? ???
If so many people are being diagnosed with AS despite their lack of self help skills, then maybe I really do have it and the criteria just messed up. The criterias are just made up by a group of doctors and I think not all doctors agree with what the criteria says about AS so they ignore it and go ahead and diagnose the person with it anyway rather they meet it or not.
The mother did nothing wrong. The baby was taken from her right after she had it.
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_headline=autistic-mum--8217-s-baby-taken-into-care%26method=full%26objectid=19418874%26siteid=50082-name_page.html
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there are other reasons. poopy diapers is just something i couldn't get over easily. but i shouldn't have kids, i can't even take care of myself by myself.
but anyway. this girl who was AS, did she do anything that would make the child services think she shouldn't have kids or did they just show up one day and snatch her kids without any evidence of wrongdoing?
If I remember the article, her kid was going to be nabbed before she was born, despite having a NT boyfriend and family who could help her.
i meant the girl Spokane mentioned. but that's really weird they would take a baby away before it's born... lol.
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You are making a good choice then. I'm afraid of having a baby by myself and having it dying because I failed to take good care of it or failed to give it enough food and I go to prison for it because the baby died. I'd rather have a partner when I have kids. I am also afraid of I'd drop it too. I have tendancy to drop stuff. I have even dropped my own handheld game systems and CD player.
I'm surprised how there are aspies out there who can't take care of themselves and the criteria says no delay in self help skills? ???
If so many people are being diagnosed with AS despite their lack of self help skills, then maybe I really do have it and the criteria just messed up. The criterias are just made up by a group of doctors and I think not all doctors agree with what the criteria says about AS so they ignore it and go ahead and diagnose the person with it anyway rather they meet it or not.
dude, those people don't know shit about us. criteria is bullshit. we don't all have all the traits. we are very different from each other. don't listen to them.
now, what's this about self help skills? :P
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i don't like poopy diapers. :P that convinced me.
My wife's total yuck was vomit. It seemed for a long time that every baby we saw smelled like vomit, but nature has a way of solving these things. Mother Nature granted her nine months a morning sickness with each of them. She is now immune to vomit-phobia due to exposure therapy.
:vulcan:
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i don't want poop therapy. :P
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You are making a good choice then. I'm afraid of having a baby by myself and having it dying because I failed to take good care of it or failed to give it enough food and I go to prison for it because the baby died. I'd rather have a partner when I have kids. I am also afraid of I'd drop it too. I have tendancy to drop stuff. I have even dropped my own handheld game systems and CD player.
I'm surprised how there are aspies out there who can't take care of themselves and the criteria says no delay in self help skills? ???
If so many people are being diagnosed with AS despite their lack of self help skills, then maybe I really do have it and the criteria just messed up. The criterias are just made up by a group of doctors and I think not all doctors agree with what the criteria says about AS so they ignore it and go ahead and diagnose the person with it anyway rather they meet it or not.
The mother did nothing wrong. The baby was taken from her right after she had it.
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_headline=autistic-mum--8217-s-baby-taken-into-care%26method=full%26objectid=19418874%26siteid=50082-name_page.html
That's shocking.
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You are making a good choice then. I'm afraid of having a baby by myself and having it dying because I failed to take good care of it or failed to give it enough food and I go to prison for it because the baby died. I'd rather have a partner when I have kids. I am also afraid of I'd drop it too. I have tendancy to drop stuff. I have even dropped my own handheld game systems and CD player.
I'm surprised how there are aspies out there who can't take care of themselves and the criteria says no delay in self help skills? ???
If so many people are being diagnosed with AS despite their lack of self help skills, then maybe I really do have it and the criteria just messed up. The criterias are just made up by a group of doctors and I think not all doctors agree with what the criteria says about AS so they ignore it and go ahead and diagnose the person with it anyway rather they meet it or not.
The mother did nothing wrong. The baby was taken from her right after she had it.
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_headline=autistic-mum--8217-s-baby-taken-into-care%26method=full%26objectid=19418874%26siteid=50082-name_page.html
That's shocking.
Whats even more shocking is that case could quite easily be the tip of the iceberg...
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i don't want poop therapy. :P
:LMAO:
Nor did she want the other!
I+You
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You are making a good choice then. I'm afraid of having a baby by myself and having it dying because I failed to take good care of it or failed to give it enough food and I go to prison for it because the baby died. I'd rather have a partner when I have kids. I am also afraid of I'd drop it too. I have tendancy to drop stuff. I have even dropped my own handheld game systems and CD player.
I'm surprised how there are aspies out there who can't take care of themselves and the criteria says no delay in self help skills? ???
If so many people are being diagnosed with AS despite their lack of self help skills, then maybe I really do have it and the criteria just messed up. The criterias are just made up by a group of doctors and I think not all doctors agree with what the criteria says about AS so they ignore it and go ahead and diagnose the person with it anyway rather they meet it or not.
The mother did nothing wrong. The baby was taken from her right after she had it.
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_headline=autistic-mum--8217-s-baby-taken-into-care%26method=full%26objectid=19418874%26siteid=50082-name_page.html
That's shocking.
That is horrible. We have very active social services people in our area of the country and quite frankly they terrify me.
I know that my husband and I are very good parents, but I would hate having to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in lawyer's fees trying to prove it so we could get our daughter back if they ever snatched her. And who do they think they could put her with if they snatched her? It certainly wouldn't be with people like us, who have the best chance of understanding her. She would never be the same again if something like that ever happened.
Purposeful Insanity, you didn't know of Debbie Storey? This happened a few years ago.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1312918,00.html
Here's an excerpt:
Parents have been contacting charities such as the National Autism Society, which is helping a mother accused of Munchausen's By Proxy, a controversial diagnosis where mothers are accused of deliberately harming their own children. 'This is despite the fact that the child had been diagnosed with Asperger's and the very existence of Munchausen's is being questioned,' said a lawyer involved with the case.
Education Minister Lord Filkin told BBC Radio 5 Live that his department would urgently investigate the allegations.
At her home in Essex, former insurance clerk Debbie Storey is still trying to make sense of the traumatic events of the past few months when she and her husband, Michael, came desperately close to having both their children taken into care.
As is common with Asperger's children, they removed their sons, Ben, 15, and Sam, 10, from school after they fell prey to severe bullying. 'Ben once came home with a huge bruise after someone hit him and he had his tuck-box rammed into his face,' says Debbie. 'It got so bad he self-harmed and took a big chunk out of his own flesh.' She now teaches both boys at home, which she says caused increasing tension, first with the Essex education authority and then social services.
Debbie says that her constant battles to get provisions to which they were legally entitled led events to take a more sinister turn. Last year a confidential report prepared for the council accused Debbie and her husband of psychologically abusing their children. The report concluded that: 'Mr and Mrs Storey are consciously or unconsciously using their children to meet their own needs. They appear to lack an appropriate awareness and consideration of the children's needs and this in our view has and continues to negatively affect both Ben and Sam.' Debbie believes this was a veiled hint that they suffered from Munchausen's.
This summer Ben had to give evidence before a child protection panel, where he says he counted 22 people sitting around a table waiting to question him. His speech is clear and logical, peppered with the formal phraseology reminiscent of 1930s news broadcasts, which is typical of children with Asperger's.
'I only had five minutes to say why I didn't think I should be taken into care, which I don't think is very fair,' he said. Minutes later the chairman of the panel came out to see him with some shocking news. 'He said, "Right you're on the at risk register because your parents are abusing you emotionally and physically". At first I was numbed by that information, just the way that it was said, quick, sharp.
'The next words out of his mouth were, "It concerns me you are not into sport and fashion like normal children of your age". Then, after that gem, he said: "Oh, it's the decision of the panel that you've got to lose some weight". No offence to the panel, but half of them were overweight.'
The family's legal team challenged the decision and last week Debbie and Michael received a letter from Essex County Council to say their children were no longer being considered for care proceedings. A council spokesman said the authority never commented on individual cases.
Such incidents are becoming increasingly common, said Baron-Cohen. 'It risks turning the clock back 50 years to when parents of children with the related condition of autism were blamed for having caused their child's condition,' he said.
Social workers say they face a particularly sensitive task when trying to assess children who may have special needs. 'Just because a child has Asperger's doesn't necessarily mean there isn't a problem with parenting,' said John Coughlan of the Association of Directors of Social Services. 'Some studies have shown the children who suffer from disabilities are at potentially greater risk of abuse, so we always have to look carefully at every case.'
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The way I see it, among all the coffee companies somebody was going to get to be the big evil corporation that dominates all the others. That's just the way economics works. In a way I'm glad it was Starbucks, because of the way they do things like be careful where they get the coffee from and also give away used coffee grounds for free for people to use in their gardens.
That said, I was VERY disappointed to hear that Starbuck's has chosen to support Al Cureda in this manner. For the time being, my coffee will be coming either from the nearest gas station, or the cheap dirty coffee maker in my office, or the one in my kitchen, but NOT from Starbuck's until they stop this shit.
I read this whole thread before posting, and am very disgusted with the type of meddling that's going on. What exactly do y'all mean by "in the system" anyway?
I assume this kid-snatching thing is just in Europe? Because, here in the US I've always heard there's a surplus of foster kids. I've heard 90% of the foster homes here are hellholes. (That bit of info coming from my two adopted sisters, who've told me a few horror stories.) Hope they're better in Europe.
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The phrase "in the system" usually refers to the state taking over someone's life, whether it means prison, asylum or foster homes. In a child's interest the state can take custody of the child away from the parents and assign it to an institution or a foster home.
Once the state takes custody of someone they are considered to be "in the system".
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i thought US social services situation was worse than europe's.