INTENSITY²
Arena for the Competitive => Main Event Callouts => Topic started by: Calandale on June 16, 2007, 09:47:05 PM
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Want to have this out for real?
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make an accusation first
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I accuse him of overmoderation at WP,
in regards to THIS site only.
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He still has an active account here.
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Which one of the bores is TheMachine1?
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Which one of the bores is TheMachine1?
Surprisingly enough, TheMachine1. Here is his profile:
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=158
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Which one of the bores is TheMachine1?
Surprisingly enough, TheMachine1. Here is his profile:
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=158
just enough posts to read every forum. +1 post that he couldn't resist answering. must have been a question from me.
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He reads these fora. That is clear.
Anyhow, he seems happier to
have our fight out where
only mods at WP can see
it. Which is fine.
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Which one of the bores is TheMachine1?
Surprisingly enough, TheMachine1. Here is his profile:
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=158
:laugh:
'twas more of a rhetorical question, Callaway.
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He has not been here for awhile. ;D
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I accuse him of overmoderation at WP,
in regards to THIS site only.
What the fuck? I think I missed this.
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I accuse him of overmoderation at WP,
in regards to THIS site only.
What the fuck? I think I missed this.
The threads are still in the mods section,
as is the discussion of them
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Goddammit... WP is having sever problems, so I'm not ignoring your last post. I also need to respond to TM1's last post because I disagree with his assessment of Richard's ban. I like Richard, but I think he's gotten away with a lot of shit at WP because of how unfairly he was treated by some of the mods.
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I've been not seeing many of his posts
recently. Probably just because I've
been severely limiting where I'm looking
on WP.
Actually, there are a lot of people who are
trouble over there, and it seems clear to me
that it's NOT our place to just 'eliminate' them.
However, if removing the intesity threads was
done at Alex's command, rather than simply
an act of willful power grabbing, perhaps TM has
indeed been given greater powers.
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Which one of the bores is TheMachine1?
Surprisingly enough, TheMachine1. Here is his profile:
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=158
just enough posts to read every forum. +1 post that he couldn't resist answering. must have been a question from me.
No, his last post was in response to me calling him "werbert's vibrating buttplug", which I thought was quite inspired on my part.
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Which one of the bores is TheMachine1?
Surprisingly enough, TheMachine1. Here is his profile:
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=profile;u=158
just enough posts to read every forum. +1 post that he couldn't resist answering. must have been a question from me.
No, his last post was in response to me calling him "werbert's vibrating buttplug", which I thought was quite inspired on my part.
i am the egomiester.
that was an inspired criticism.
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Hey, it stuck, too. I remember seeing them talk about it over at WP. Some think everyone is supposed tp worship werbert, but I do not. After a short time, he is boring to me. TM1 was much funnier on his own. I honestly did not recognize the TM1 who showed up, here.
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Calandale - To answer your earlier question...
The member was JayJ
I banned him for spamming some nutritional supplements that are supposed to help autism. He didn't have a single thread or post that served any other purpose besides promoting these supplements and pyramid scheme. I'd also received complaints that he was sending this spam via PM.
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Are you a mod at WP?
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Are you a mod at WP?
Yes.
Now it begins... :flamer:
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Are you a mod at WP?
Yes.
Now it begins... :flamer:
For how long?
You seem to have a good head on your shoulders, so Alex could do a lot worse.
Actually, he has done a lot worse.
:laugh:
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Shit, I can't remember how long now. Maybe the last 3-4 months. He made a bunch of us mods after this one incident where a guy made an avatar out of this picture of (I kid you not) a diseased vagina.
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Calandale - To answer your earlier question...
The member was JayJ
I banned him for spamming some nutritional supplements that are supposed to help autism. He didn't have a single thread or post that served any other purpose besides promoting these supplements and pyramid scheme. I'd also received complaints that he was sending this spam via PM.
Thanks. I remember that. Pretty clear cut. Nothing like the current situation.
Shit, I can't remember how long now. Maybe the last 3-4 months. He made a bunch of us mods after this one incident where a guy made an avatar out of this picture of (I kid you not) a diseased vagina.
Same time as Grael and I.
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Yeah, he made a bunch of us mods at that time. I just didn't remember if you were a mod before that or not.
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Thanks. I remember that. Pretty clear cut. Nothing like the current situation.
What is this "current situation"?? Just the standard BS ovemoderation, or something new??
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Thanks. I remember that. Pretty clear cut. Nothing like the current situation.
What is this "current situation"?? Just the standard BS ovemoderation, or something new??
I happen to think that the current banning was justified. The guy was a bona fide troll.
The thing is, whenever someone gets into a flamewar with a mod, it seems like it the mod could be singling them out unfairly for a banning. That seemed to be the case with Richard, at least (where he got banned when normally it would have resulted in a warning). I think that this person flamed TM1, but he flamed so many other people with such a high proportion of his posts that there is no comparison to the past overmoderation incidents. This is just my opinion though.
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The guy was a bona fide troll.
Do you mean Richard??
Alex called me a bona fide troll just as soon as he got done lying about sending me PM's regarding my posts.
I've never been contacted by WP staff prior to being banned EVER.
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Shit, I can't remember how long now. Maybe the last 3-4 months. He made a bunch of us mods after this one incident where a guy made an avatar out of this picture of (I kid you not) a diseased vagina.
If it was just after that, I think it would have been late March, so three months probably. Is there a list of Moderators on WP? Are there any who have been members for more than a year?
I'm curious. I wonder what the guy's diseased vagina avatar looked like.
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I'm curious. I wonder what the guy's diseased vagina avatar looked like.
Wasn't that the pic of a black chick who had cancer of the vulva, or was that just something posted here??
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I'm curious. I wonder what the guy's diseased vagina avatar looked like.
Wasn't that the pic of a black chick who had cancer of the vulva, or was that just something posted here??
Oh, I remember that picture. I was wondering if it could have been that one, or the prolapsed uterus picture, or that huge female genital picture, or none of the above.
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Thanks. I remember that. Pretty clear cut. Nothing like the current situation.
What is this "current situation"?? Just the standard BS ovemoderation, or something new??
I happen to think that the current banning was justified. The guy was a bona fide troll.
He was a member with non-offensive posts, prior to one quick spurt.
Anyhow, the big deal was that NONE of us had banning ability,
and it was only instituted to allow us to handle atomika style
attacks - all pretty clearly stated.
If it was just after that, I think it would have been late March, so three months probably. Is there a list of Moderators on WP? Are there any who have been members for more than a year?
TM1 is barely a year. Fiz and Mr. Mark have both been active recently.
No real list, that I know of.
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Is that Uber-liberal troll, ed, still a mod over there??
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No idea. Certainly there is no ed who
is particularly active.
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Are you a mod at WP?
Yes.
Now it begins... :flamer:
Not at all. I just wanted to know. I don't have anything against people for being mods at WP. :)
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I'm curious. I wonder what the guy's diseased vagina avatar looked like.
Wasn't that the pic of a black chick who had cancer of the vulva, or was that just something posted here??
Oh, I remember that picture. I was wondering if it could have been that one, or the prolapsed uterus picture, or that huge female genital picture, or none of the above.
That pic was 'shopped, as they say nowdays. I could make those all day long.
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The guy was a bona fide troll.
Do you mean Richard??
Alex called me a bona fide troll just as soon as he got done lying about sending me PM's regarding my posts.
I've never been contacted by WP staff prior to being banned EVER.
I was IP banned during that time (March?), but I had not posted there since I started posting here, in November. I have since then, but I was part of a block of addresses he blocked trying to stop the guy who half-hacked the PM system and sent everyone a shitlame message.
No one ever contacted ME about the incident, either. If I was fragile or dependent on WP for support I would have been "injured" by the block banning.
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I'm curious. I wonder what the guy's diseased vagina avatar looked like.
Wasn't that the pic of a black chick who had cancer of the vulva, or was that just something posted here??
Oh, I remember that picture. I was wondering if it could have been that one, or the prolapsed uterus picture, or that huge female genital picture, or none of the above.
so was the person in question our very own petie mac?
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The guy was a bona fide troll.
Do you mean Richard??
No, I'm talking about the guy they just banned. Legrandfromage.
Your banning, Scrapheap, irritates me, because you said a few things that were against the TOS, but usually people get a warning first. I believe you when you say you didn't. Richard's done the same exact things as you practically, and nothing's happenned to him. He was treated unfairly by the mods once, and I think he's gotten better about things since then, but he got away with a lot more than other banned members and I think it's totally unfair.
Also, the fact that Alex didn't stand behind the mods over the whole Richard thing pisses me off, because that's led to members attacking the mods. Like all those "Graelwyn-gate" and "Calandale-gate" emails (I don't know why the fuck Calandale, but he had his own thread). I seriously was pissed because it seemed like the mods were just left hung out to dry for that.
Anyway, for the record Richard - I don't have anything against you. I like you, but there were a couple of times that you crossed the line. And like it or not WP is a moderated site; WP != Intensity. You just happen to be a great example of WP's double standards and lack of support given to the mods.
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I'm curious. I wonder what the guy's diseased vagina avatar looked like.
Wasn't that the pic of a black chick who had cancer of the vulva, or was that just something posted here??
Oh, I remember that picture. I was wondering if it could have been that one, or the prolapsed uterus picture, or that huge female genital picture, or none of the above.
so was the person in question our very own petie mac?
Surely not. I was just curious about the picture, so I listed all the diseased vagina pictures I know of.
:laugh:
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The guy was a bona fide troll.
Do you mean Richard??
No, I'm talking about the guy they just banned. Legrandfromage.
Your banning, Scrapheap, irritates me, because you said a few things that were against the TOS, but usually people get a warning first. I believe you when you say you didn't. Richard's done the same exact things as you practically, and nothing's happenned to him. He was treated unfairly by the mods once, and I think he's gotten better about things since then, but he got away with a lot more than other banned members and I think it's totally unfair.
Also, the fact that Alex didn't stand behind the mods over the whole Richard thing pisses me off, because that's led to members attacking the mods. Like all those "Graelwyn-gate" and "Calandale-gate" emails (I don't know why the fuck Calandale, but he had his own thread). I seriously was pissed because it seemed like the mods were just left hung out to dry for that.
Anyway, for the record Richard - I don't have anything against you. I like you, but there were a couple of times that you crossed the line. And like it or not WP is a moderated site; WP != Intensity. You just happen to be a great example of WP's double standards and lack of support given to the mods.
What you don't understand because you have not been a member of WP for very long is that Alex never gives support to the mods, Janicka. He always hangs them out to dry. Why do you expect him to behave differently now than he has behaved for years? That's why I think he picked the mods he has, for the most part. He had to find trusting people who didn't know his Modus Operandi. Why do you think he lost almost all of the mods he had before?
I don't know what Graelwyn-Gate emails are, but Graelwyn is using her position to solicit sexual acts from a sixteen year old boy, and that sets a bad example for the other members.
I understand that sixteen year old boys are supposed to be legal for sex where she lives, but sixteen year olds are jail bait where the sixteen year old boy lives and she should have practiced more restraint. After all, she's practically old enough to be his mother.
What if some other dirty old man or woman thinks children are fair game because of what Graelwyn is doing? WP is advertised as a support site for people with AS or some other ASD and you have a lot of children who are members there, who could become targets for pedophiles.
Seriously, you guys really need to fix this and not try to justify it like Calandale has been doing.
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I've been a member of WP for nearly a year. I just haven't been a mod very long, and I really don't pay attention to a lot of WP politics.
Graelwyn isn't soliciting sex acts from anyone. They've never met in person. Anyway, 17 is the age of consent in the UK, and she's actually planning on meeting him in the UK when he turns 17 in a couple of months from what I understand. Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal - probably because Graelwyn doesn't really act much older than a teenager herself. I doubt that she could be in a relationship with someone her age.
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Your banning, Scrapheap, irritates me, because you said a few things that were against the TOS, but usually people get a warning first.
Janicka, I never said or did anything against the TOS at WP, but I was banned anyway. I never got an email that explained why, except after emailing Alex a couple of times myself, asking him to delete my account and my posts.
And I'm not the only one.
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Just out of curiosity, what was your username that got banned?
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odeon. My nick's the same everywhere.
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I've been a member of WP for nearly a year. I just haven't been a mod very long, and I really don't pay attention to a lot of WP politics.
Graelwyn isn't soliciting sex acts from anyone. They've never met in person. Anyway, 17 is the age of consent in the UK, and she's actually planning on meeting him in the UK when he turns 17 in a couple of months from what I understand. Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal - probably because Graelwyn doesn't really act much older than a teenager herself. I doubt that she could be in a relationship with someone her age.
it's 16, actually.
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Also, the fact that Alex didn't stand behind the mods over the whole Richard thing pisses me off, because that's led to members attacking the mods. Like all those "Graelwyn-gate" and "Calandale-gate" emails (I don't know why the fuck Calandale, but he had his own thread). I seriously was pissed because it seemed like the mods were just left hung out to dry for that.
I engineered that myself, in order to
take some of the heat off of grael.
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... but Graelwyn is using her position to solicit sexual acts from a sixteen year old boy, and that sets a bad example for the other members.
Using her position? No. I don't see that one bit.
No more than she would have as any other member.
They met through role-playing, essentially.
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Your banning, Scrapheap, irritates me, because you said a few things that were against the TOS, but usually people get a warning first.
Janicka, I never said or did anything against the TOS at WP, but I was banned anyway. I never got an email that explained why, except after emailing Alex a couple of times myself, asking him to delete my account and my posts.
And I'm not the only one.
You were obviously trolling.
One doesn't call a site a bad
soap opera otherwise. :laugh:
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Your banning, Scrapheap, irritates me, because you said a few things that were against the TOS, but usually people get a warning first.
Janicka, I never said or did anything against the TOS at WP, but I was banned anyway. I never got an email that explained why, except after emailing Alex a couple of times myself, asking him to delete my account and my posts.
And I'm not the only one.
You were obviously trolling.
One doesn't call a site a bad
soap opera otherwise. :laugh:
Odeon was not trolling, but the comparison between WP and a bad soap with the obligatory brain tumor was one of the funniest comparisons of all time.
What he said was definitely not against the TOS at that time, although Alex has changed the TOS loads of times since then, so who even knows what it says now?
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Your banning, Scrapheap, irritates me, because you said a few things that were against the TOS, but usually people get a warning first.
Janicka, I never said or did anything against the TOS at WP, but I was banned anyway. I never got an email that explained why, except after emailing Alex a couple of times myself, asking him to delete my account and my posts.
And I'm not the only one.
You were obviously trolling.
One doesn't call a site a bad
soap opera otherwise. :laugh:
Odeon was not trolling, but the comparison between WP and a bad soap with the obligatory brain tumor was one of the funniest comparisons of all time.
What he said was definitely not against the TOS at that time, although Alex has changed the TOS loads of times since then, so who even knows what it says now?
I just can't see why that would pull a ban.
I'm wondering if there was any prior history,
but it just seems too ridiculous.
Hell, I pulled a warning for being honorable.
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I've been a member of WP for nearly a year. I just haven't been a mod very long, and I really don't pay attention to a lot of WP politics.
Graelwyn isn't soliciting sex acts from anyone. They've never met in person. Anyway, 17 is the age of consent in the UK, and she's actually planning on meeting him in the UK when he turns 17 in a couple of months from what I understand. Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal - probably because Graelwyn doesn't really act much older than a teenager herself. I doubt that she could be in a relationship with someone her age.
it's 16, actually.
Yes.. Turning 17 in a couple of months would make him 16 now. :P
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Your banning, Scrapheap, irritates me, because you said a few things that were against the TOS, but usually people get a warning first.
Janicka, I never said or did anything against the TOS at WP, but I was banned anyway. I never got an email that explained why, except after emailing Alex a couple of times myself, asking him to delete my account and my posts.
And I'm not the only one.
Yeah, I read some of your past posts. I have no idea what you did other tha tell Alex he wasn't handling the whole mass de-modding very well by making it public. And I'd have to agree with that.
There have been a couple of bannings that I simply don't understand - where the banned person seems to have either done nothing or done something that has gotten past members warnings instead of bans. My main complaint is with people who complain about "overmoderation" or bitch and moan about suffering the consequences of violating the TOS (by which I pretty much mean flaming someone). Like that Bizzare chick - she did nothing except post complaints about how mods handled people flaming (by removing posts, mostly) and how WP was discriminating against them. Whatever. She really pissed me off, and I basically told her that if she's going to a moderated site, she needs to be able to deal with some moderation; if she doesn't like it, she should find a site that is NOT moderated. Those are the type of people who piss me off.
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I fully respect moderated sites. If I choose to participate in one, I realize that I can't say or do anything I want to; I would prefer the moderators to follow the TOS as well, however. Of course, Alex banned me himself--a mod didn't do it--and I imagine that it was a desperate measure for him. He didn't know how to handle the situation at all.
The incident with reading other people's PMs destroyed whatever little credibility he had, and a lot of people called him on it. Then again, put pressure on a teenager and he will react out of proportion. That's what happened.
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That makes sense to me. But the whole callout in this thread seemed to be about one particular mod's practices. None of us have been given any specific instructions as to what's expected of us, other than a really vague mandate to stop spammers and trolls. So, basically everyone is doing the best they can to interpret the TOS to the best of their ability. It's been made worse by the fact that Alex hasn't supported the mods' decisions consistently, and has at times reversed what I thought was a reasonably valid decision by a mod. The icing on the cake was that the original ban seemed to be self-serving because the member in that case (Richard) was attacking someone in the clique of mods that ended up banning him. I'm not stupid, and I know that the type of insults that Richard was throwing around happen every day (it didn't help that Richard was drunk of his ass and having a meltdown at the same time) - but if you flame a mod like that, chances are that a mod will see it (DUH) and you'll have to pay whatever consequence for violting the TOS. I don't think that was such a big deal.
So if the mods at WP want to have it out over their modding practices, fine. We have a mods-only forum for that. I don't think it needs to come here, and I don't think WP members need to necessarily be privy to it either. If some members who apparently need a focus for their hostility (I'm talking about Bizzare, mainly) want to start threads about mods, I don't think it's appropriate for us to be questioning each other in those threads either. We may as well come off as being somewhat united, since God knows that we're not going to have Alex's support. As far as WP members are concerned I think it comes down to the fact that they agreed to be posting on a moderated site. None of the current controversial issues have anything to do with Alex's past stupidity with mass de-moddings and bannings - it has to do with how current mods are interpreting their jobs and WP's TOS given the lack of direction.
As far as Richard goes, I'll say it again - I like him. Richard's cool and he makes me laugh a lot of times. But I don't think that the WP mods that tried to ban him were "out of control" under the circumstances like some people have said.
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So if the mods at WP want to have it out over their modding practices, fine. We have a mods-only forum for that.
There were two reasons for having it here.
One was that TM might have noticed that his
action directly contradicted an action which Alex
had taken, and he didn't want to mention it there.
The other was that maybe he would have earned some
respect here, instead of simply lurking this site for whatever
reason that he does.
He chose to hold the fight in the mod section.
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well yes im a handfull i know, you can have alex ban me janicka because i think yer totally right :laugh:
id ask him myself exept he doesnt ever answer my pms and i dont email so..
still though a kid walks up to you and asks you out. what do you say?
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Richard - WP would be boring if you got banned. ;)
I was actually really sorry when they banned you, but I wasn't going to get into a debate over whether you deserved it or not.
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i think i act so desperate over there because i dont have any friends, so i get hostile like its motherfucking 1992. :laugh: so it makes me angry, plus i was physically&spycologically abused by my stepdad and i hate to see kids hook up with adults. :P
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Just limit your posting under the influence :police:
Kidding.. Seriously, I think that the problem is that certain mods don't understand objectivity in modding. Usually you get a warning (or two or three) before you get banned for that type of flaming in the Haven. Especially when it's not one-sided - you can be pretty evil, but only to people who've asked for it. I thought that Alex was a total dick to the mods that banned you, because we really never had any clear instructions on how to handle anything besides obvious spam, and he's banned people for less. But people have also gotten away with lots of things and really anemic warnings for worse. I wasn't a mod when I saw the worse - otherwise I probably would have gotten involved. I just think that banning you was an emotional decision from some really emotionally fragile mods that couldn't make an objective decision in the case. They really should have asked another mod that was not involved in the first place to review it. That would have been the best way to handle it, in my opinion.
Anyway, after all that drama (which has never subsided, by the way), I at least had the nerve to admit that I couldn't be objective because I didn't want you to get banned. I would have understood if you did, though, and I wouldn't have made a big deal out of it.
I'm really annoyed with Graelwyn at the moment. She goes on and on about how she's been abused in the forums, but then does it herself. I couldn't believe the latest thing that she did - which was attack Starbuline for 'cheating' on KBABZ. She also said that she sent you a PM telling you what she thought about you... I could use a little entertainment, since Paris Hilton is getting a little stale, so let's see it :eyebrows:
You should give yourself more credit. You have lots of friends at WP (including me). And there's a 14 page thread wishing you a happy birthday :P
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well if you tell me how to do a "screenshot" i can show you what the pm looks like, actually theres 4 and there all hilarious/ :laugh:
she told me to watch my back because something was going to happen to me, i dont know weather to laugh/cry/or call the police.
and thanks for being my friend, i try to not get on wp now if im drinking :)
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Watch your back - lol?!?! I'd probably laugh, then cry, then perseverate, then call the cops. In that order... ::)
Seriously though, she's in the UK and has no money. I don't think her dad would buy her plane tickets to Flagstaff to kill you. Anyway, if she flies through SLC, I'll go slash the tires on her rental car or something. I work just accross the street from the airport.
I think she's a Wiccan - so maybe she's putting some sort of spell on you. The entertaining thing about that is that whatever spell you cast comes back at you two fold (or four fold or something like that). If you believe that. If it's true, we can hope that we survive long enough to be entertained.
The only way I know how to do a screenshot is to use the "print screen" button on my keyboard, and then paste it in MS paint. The problem is that it pastes as a bitmap and the file size ends up being really huge. I hope that there is someone more knowledgeable than me that wants to be entertained and can give you better advice. LOLOL!!!
I forsee a mass de-modding, so I may be powerless over your posting under the influence. I don't know if I'll get de-modded. I haven't been terribly controversial, but I'm not terribly active as a mod. I hope I don't get banned - I haven't done anything to deserve it (at least on WP - I've said and done plenty about WP here - so if someone wanted to be vindictive about it, I suppose they could). There's some people at WP I'd miss talking to.
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oh great a crazy woman whos a witch thats just fantastic, its a good thing i dont believe in that shit anyways why would you get banned? you seem like a pretty level headed gal over there, and a good mod. why does alex treat his mods so badly over there? is it like a power control issue?
im sure grealwyn will be back in a few days time posting again,
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I don't know that I'd get banned, but MrMark was talking about demodding mods who can't handle the job. By "can't handle" - I don't know if they mean people who don't do much (which is quite a few of us) or Graelwyn, who seems to be melting down every 5 minutes because of being a mod. He also had the nerve to say that we should be PM'ing Alex questions about how to do our jobs. :rofl:
I pointed out how useless that was - Alex doesn't reply to our PM's.
The whole mass-modding was sort of a joke to begin with - I got an email stating that I had been added to the moderator user group, but no actual personal message from Alex telling me what that meant or what the fuck I was supposed to do. As far as I know, none of the new mods have gotten any other instructions. Other than a really vague post saying that we were to stop "spammers and trolls" - and that was directed at all of us. And that's a bullshit set of instructions, because everyone's definition of trolling is going to be a little bit different.
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so it seems like you guys are pretty much left on yer own, and to make decsions that you dont know are right or wrong, thats pretty much terrible. maybe its because alex has aspergers and doesnt like talking? i dunno. seems wierd, well i hope you dont get demodded, but grealwyn defintly should be
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well if you tell me how to do a "screenshot" i can show you what the pm looks like, actually theres 4 and there all hilarious/ :laugh:
she told me to watch my back because something was going to happen to me, i dont know weather to laugh/cry/or call the police.
and thanks for being my friend, i try to not get on wp now if im drinking :)
Instead of doing a screenshot, why don't you just do a copy and paste, Richard?
What you can do is act like you are going to reply to the PM by clicking the Quote button, then you hold down the left mouse button while you move the cursor over the whole quoted PM, which will highlight it, then you let the left mouse button go. Then while your cursor is over the highlighted text, you click the right mouse button and select copy.
You come over here and open a post, then you use the right mouse button to paste the copied PM into the post.
I'm dying to see the PMs as well. Can you tell?
One of Graelwyn's problems is that she says the most hurtful things that she can possibly think of when she gets angry with someone, so please don't take anything she said to heart.
Remember when she criticized our parenting abilities to our children because we were not sufficiently sensitive to her distress, just before she left?
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=2741.msg116129#msg116129
I feel sorry for any offspring, is all I can say, for they are in for a rough time indeed. They deserve to have been born to those more deserving, not to mention, more responsible.
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i never really understood how to copy and paste but i'lll attempt a try :laugh:
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think I dish it out do you, you little handicapped moron?
I will dish it out now
YOU ARE A SPITEFUL, MALICIOUS LITTLE LOSER WHO HAS NOTHING GOOD GOING FOR HIM WHATSOEVER.
YOU HAVE NOT A SHRED OF HUMAN DECENCY.
I HAVE NO SURPRISE THAT YOU ARE ALONE.
NO ONE WANTS SOMEONE WHO IS INCAPABLE OF BEING DECENT
TIME AND AGAIN YOU HAVE JUMPED INTO ATTACK ME FOR ANY EXCUSE. EVEN WHEN i DID NOTHING WRONG
yOU ARE A PATHETIC BULLY AND NOTHING MORE
YOUR DISGUSTING SOCIAL SKILLS AND THE FACT YOU ARE CLEARLY AUTISTIC TO THE WORST DEGREE IS NO EXCUSE
YOU ARE SIMPLY IGNORANT, IGNORANT, IGNORANT, PUNY LITTLE SHIT.
YOU REPULSE ME, UTTERLY AND TOTALLY.
i TRIED TO BE DECENT AND NICE TO YOU AND TO FORGIVE YOU YOUR DRUNKEN SHIT FROM BEFORE, BUT TO BE HONEST, I HOPE SOMEONE COMES AND WIPES YOU OFF THE NET.
YOUR SPITE AND CRUELTY ASTONISH ME, THAT YOU WOULD RIP A WOMAN APART WHEN IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU TO BEGIN WITH.
I MIGHT GET SHIT KARMA FOR THIS PM, BUT BY GOD JUST WAIT AND SEE WHAT KARMA WILL COME TO YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO ME.
YOU RAT.
AND GO SHOW THIS TO EVERYONE, AS REALLY... I DONT CARE A DAMN ANYMORE AS IM OUTTA HERE ONCE IVE TOLD PEOPLE WHAT I THINK OF THEM
YOU WILL ALL BE SITTING ROTTING ON YOUR ASSES IN 10 YRS TIME, DOING NOTHING AND I WILL GET SOMEWHERE...PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME MORE DETERMINED TO DO THE THINGS YOU NEVER CAN.
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Do you get a kick out of harrassing me or something and going in for the attack whenever you have a chance?
And this whole flagg stuff has NOTHING to do with you.
Get your words right, grooming is when you train children up to be sex objects, which is utter shite since we intend on being together as a couple and since he is the only young person I have ever been with.
You have no right to say things like that and I could probably do you for slander if I wished for that.
I would watch your back if I was you as it is you who is in the wrong here.
I find it funny that you find it ok that litigious fucked a 15 yr old girl, but suddenly I am 'grooming' because I love a 16, almost 17 yr old male who in actual fact, is very mature for his age and perfectly capable of making his own choices and who has chosen to stay in spite of my various issues.
Dont give me that shit when you dont know the full story.
how dare you say such things about me.
It shows you to be very ignorant indeed.
Ive tried to be decent with you and all you have done is got in every kick you can.
You are the most insensitive ass I have ever come across, in truth that you can even sit there and dare say such appalling things about someone elses relationship and feelings.
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because you are casting false accusations and assuming that because I am with a younger male, it instantly means my intentions are bad.
It shows that you are a very poor judge of character, and it is actually slander to post such things in public about someone.
Apart from the fact, I find it exceedingly insulting considering that he made the decision he wanted to be with me and it is about LOVE not SEX. There is a difference, or have you not learnt that yet???
OH, or maybe you think I am not capable of loving someone.
I find it pathetic considering it was perfectly clear on intensity that I have issues with sex to begin with so the LAST THING I WOULD DO IS LOOK FOR IT!
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Are you actually human with feelings?
because if you were you would have some idea of how horrible it is to say such things about someone who wouldnt hurt a fly in that sense.
And if you knew anything you would know that it is me who has endless times told flagg I am too old for him and that he should find someone younger.
You dont choose who you love.
It is as simple as that.
Had he been 14, 15, I wouldnt have gone near him.
But he is almost 17. And by the time he were here with me.. he will be 18.
Which is legal, right?
Sex is the least of things on my mind, lol.
Believe me, it is the issues we both have that is on my mind.
Sex is just totally irrelevant.
I am sick of you and others making me feel like a dirty slut for loving someone, just because he is younger than me.
And he is sick of you people hurting me because he loves me.
I hope to god you never fall in love with someone who is a little bit less than adult in years as maybe then you might know what it is like
We have enough obstacles to overcome without you people adding to it.
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thanks callaway those directions were easy to follow :)
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Do you get a kick out of harrassing me or something and going in for the attack whenever you have a chance?
And this whole flagg stuff has NOTHING to do with you.
Get your words right, grooming is when you train children up to be sex objects, which is utter shite since we intend on being together as a couple and since he is the only young person I have ever been with.
You have no right to say things like that and I could probably do you for slander if I wished for that.
I would watch your back if I was you as it is you who is in the wrong here.
I find it funny that you find it ok that litigious fucked a 15 yr old girl, but suddenly I am 'grooming' because I love a 16, almost 17 yr old male who in actual fact, is very mature for his age and perfectly capable of making his own choices and who has chosen to stay in spite of my various issues.
Dont give me that shit when you dont know the full story.
how dare you say such things about me.
It shows you to be very ignorant indeed.
Ive tried to be decent with you and all you have done is got in every kick you can.
You are the most insensitive ass I have ever come across, in truth that you can even sit there and dare say such appalling things about someone elses relationship and feelings.
She really doesn't like it when you hold a mirror up to her face and make her look at herself, does she?
Funny how she seems to think we approved of Litigious doing the fifteen year old girl, so that somehow makes it all right for her to do a sixteen year old boy. If she isn't grooming Flagg to be her lover, I don't know what she is doing. She seems to think it is all right because they are "in love" while I think adults should look to other adults for "love" and leave the children alone. She says Flagg "is very mature for his age." I say :laugh:
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thanks callaway those directions were easy to follow :)
You are welcome, Richard.
She is full of venom, isn't she?
I wonder if she is hiding this side of herself from young Flagg?
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She really doesn't like it when you hold a mirror up to her face and make her look at herself, does she?
Funny how she seems to think we approved of Litigious doing the fifteen year old girl, so that somehow makes it all right for her to do a sixteen year old boy. If she isn't grooming Flagg to be her lover, I don't know what she is doing. She seems to think it is all right because they are "in love" while I think adults should look to other adults for "love" and leave the children alone. She says Flagg "is very mature for his age." I say :laugh:
exactly i even pmed this to her
richardbenson
To: Graelwyn
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:29 am
Subject: Re: get a kick then?
i should watch my back? why? and i never agreed that it was right that litigous did a 15 year old
she seems to be delusional, and only taking the truth when its convienant for her
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I wonder if she is hiding this side of herself from young Flagg?
oh im sure she is, just wait until he wants to break up with her, shell probably turn all stalker on him
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I wonder if she is hiding this side of herself from young Flagg?
oh im sure she is, just wait until he wants to break up with her, shell probably turn all stalker on him
Yes, no doubt. She stalked that other guy who wore a tea cosy on his head with much less encouragement.
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Thanks for posting those, Richard.
She shows what she is really like in them.
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She's a pedophile, simple as that. :puke:
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... and she doesn't deserve to have children, either, not even to fuck!
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And the worst thing is that she freaks out at the other mods for not "protecting" her when people are a little bit critical of her in the forums. It seems quite ironic that she has no problem dishing it out like that. Ironic... but entertaining :evillaugh:
I think the whole thing with Flagg isn't about his maturity - it's more about her lack of maturity. I don't think she'd be able to relate to someone much older than highschool. They thrive on that drama shit in highschool. :asthing:
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Yes, no doubt. She stalked that other guy who wore a tea cosy on his head with much less encouragement.
WTF?!?!?!
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Yes, no doubt. She stalked that other guy who wore a tea cosy on his head with much less encouragement.
WTF?!?!?!
Read her old posts here.
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What was her username?
And how do you search all posts by the user name? I get errors if I don't put something in the content of what I want in the post.
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She called herself Graelwyn here, too. This thread (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=2585.0) explains some of her obsession with the guy, but I can't be arsed to look for the others...
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Quote from: McJagger on April 14, 2007, 06:36:40 PM
flagg?
Indeed. Flagg. We are friends, nothing more. The whole thing revolves around a song thread on wp where I posted that I sung 'The gunslinger' to Flagg and Richard here came in and posted 'gay'. Everyone was posting songs to other members, so really, I don't see the issue.
Quote from: richard on April 14, 2007, 08:13:19 PM
im so sorry i hurt your moderator boyfriends feelings. next time maybe you should grow an epidermis
Didn't hurt him. He isn't my bf anyways... he is a lot younger than me, so I do not imagine anyone could consider him my bf, let alone he himself
seems she knows what shes doing is wrong,
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I think the whole thing with Flagg isn't about his maturity - it's more about her lack of maturity. I don't think she'd be able to relate to someone much older than highschool.
exactly, i really feel bad for flagg. i hope he has some sence about what hes getting into, its one thing to meet somoene online its quite another to actually meet irl and find out what a persons really like.
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Yes, no doubt. She stalked that other guy who wore a tea cosy on his head with much less encouragement.
WTF?!?!?!
She posted at great length here about this guy she was stalking, although of course she did not call it stalking. She was totally obsessed with him and she wrote him poems and hung out in places where she hoped he would be. She said he often wore a tea cosy on his head, so I called him the tea cosy guy. I think his real name is Steve.
Maybe you could read her blog thread she posted in the Forum for People with Actual Problems and find out more, although she posted about him in a lot of other places besides this and you would need to read these posts too to see her pattern of behavior toward him:
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=2585.0
Here is a short thread devoted to him, called "It Is Agony":
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=2484.msg104021#msg104021
If you want to search for more posts by Graelwyn about him, you could enter obsess, tea cosy or Steve, maybe?
Tea cosy on his head guy only ever spoke to her once, a year ago:
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=591.msg102485#msg102485
And like Richard said, she seems to know perfectly well that she is doing the wrong thing here:
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=3321.msg139236#msg139236
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reading over some of that old stuff made me realize: we need a cuckoo clock emoticon.
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How is this one?
:cuckoo:
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How is this one?
:cuckoo:
why does it say, "ky. ky."?
or is it saying kentucky, kentucky?
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Nice emoticon.
Well, thanks for those links.. Now I at least understand the tea cozy reference - lol.
Gral seems to be one of those people who blames everyone and everything except herself for her own problems. It's really sad, actually. I had a friend like that, and I had to eventually just quit being friends with her because she was like this emotional black hole that would never change or go away. No matter how good advice you give her, it won't make any difference.
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How is this one?
:cuckoo:
why does it say, "ky. ky."?
or is it saying kentucky, kentucky?
it's saying it needs lubrication.
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How is this one?
:cuckoo:
why does it say, "ky. ky."?
or is it saying kentucky, kentucky?
it's saying it needs lubrication.
Oh, no! That was my first thought, too. Poor, poor cuckoo!
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Nice emoticon.
Well, thanks for those links.. Now I at least understand the tea cozy reference - lol.
Gral seems to be one of those people who blames everyone and everything except herself for her own problems. It's really sad, actually. I had a friend like that, and I had to eventually just quit being friends with her because she was like this emotional black hole that would never change or go away. No matter how good advice you give her, it won't make any difference.
You reached the same conclusion that I did, but you reached it a lot quicker than I did, Janicka.
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let me tell you about the east bay california it aint sunny :laugh:
punk rock :)
grealwyn is a faggot, and she can cast all the fucking spells on me she wants! i aint stopping :laugh:
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Just limit your posting under the influence :police:
Kidding.. Seriously, I think that the problem is that certain mods don't understand objectivity in modding. Usually you get a warning (or two or three) before you get banned for that type of flaming in the Haven.
Not at WP. I'd like to see some sort of temp bans (which
is what Richard's ban was apparently supposed to have
been, anyhow), as cool off periods, but we just don't have
that authority.
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still though a kid walks up to you and asks you out. what do you say?
Is she cute?
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I don't know that I'd get banned, but MrMark was talking about demodding mods who can't handle the job.
AFAIK, he doesn't have that ability. Just an exaggerted
feeling of his own influence with Alex.
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She is full of venom, isn't she?
I wonder if she is hiding this side of herself from young Flagg?
Yes and no.
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And the worst thing is that she freaks out at the other mods for not "protecting" her when people are a little bit critical of her in the forums. It seems quite ironic that she has no problem dishing it out like that. Ironic... but entertaining :evillaugh:
She and I came to an agreement - I treat her like anyone else,
which means if I see her flaming someone, I burn her posts, and
those which flame her - UNLESS it's about a mod related issue.
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Quote from: McJagger on April 14, 2007, 06:36:40 PM
flagg?
Indeed. Flagg. We are friends, nothing more. The whole thing revolves around a song thread on wp where I posted that I sung 'The gunslinger' to Flagg and Richard here came in and posted 'gay'. Everyone was posting songs to other members, so really, I don't see the issue.
Quote from: richard on April 14, 2007, 08:13:19 PM
im so sorry i hurt your moderator boyfriends feelings. next time maybe you should grow an epidermis
Didn't hurt him. He isn't my bf anyways... he is a lot younger than me, so I do not imagine anyone could consider him my bf, let alone he himself
seems she knows what shes doing is wrong,
It was true, at that time.
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How is this one?
:cuckoo:
No birdie!
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AFAIK,
what exactly does this mean brah
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AFAIK,
what exactly does this mean brah
I'm not Calandale, but if you can be trusted with a master key ...
Chat lingo (http://www.netlingo.com/lumenu2.cfm?category=Chat+Acronym)
I found it kind of handy a couple of years ago.
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From this site:
AFAIK
As Far As I Know
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How is this one?
:cuckoo:
why does it say, "ky. ky."?
or is it saying kentucky, kentucky?
it's saying it needs lubrication.
:plus:
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AFAIK,
what exactly does this mean brah
I'm not Calandale, but if you can be trusted with a master key ...
Chat lingo (http://www.netlingo.com/lumenu2.cfm?category=Chat+Acronym)
I found it kind of handy a couple of years ago.
DAMHIKT
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Huh?
I am always glad to share where I learn things, if possible.
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AFAIK,
what exactly does this mean brah
I'm not Calandale, but if you can be trusted with a master key ...
Chat lingo (http://www.netlingo.com/lumenu2.cfm?category=Chat+Acronym)
I found it kind of handy a couple of years ago.
DAMHIKT
DAMHIKT
Don't Ask Me How I Know That
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I don't know that I'd get banned, but MrMark was talking about demodding mods who can't handle the job.
AFAIK, he doesn't have that ability. Just an exaggerted
feeling of his own influence with Alex.
Actually, I beleve that he said Alex made him an admin. That's why he's on a power trip.
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I don't know that I'd get banned, but MrMark was talking about demodding mods who can't handle the job.
AFAIK, he doesn't have that ability. Just an exaggerted
feeling of his own influence with Alex.
Actually, I beleve that he said Alex made him an admin. That's why he's on a power trip.
Well, his 'prissiness' has always been somewhat apparent.
So one presumes that Alex took that into account.
Still, I've had a couple of exchanges, and don't feel quite
as upset as I was.
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I don't know that I'd get banned, but MrMark was talking about demodding mods who can't handle the job.
AFAIK, he doesn't have that ability. Just an exaggerted
feeling of his own influence with Alex.
Actually, I beleve that he said Alex made him an admin. That's why he's on a power trip.
Well, his 'prissiness' has always been somewhat apparent.
So one presumes that Alex took that into account.
Still, I've had a couple of exchanges, and don't feel quite
as upset as I was.
he barked and you submitted?
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he barked and you submitted?
You know my style. I understand some
of his reasons better. Still, if it goes overboard,
I'll react. Not that it will do any good, as he has
Alex's ear, and I'm on the shit list now.
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maybe alex is finally doing what is right by the members of WP.
perhaps the FBI had a talk with him.
is graelwyn still a mod?
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Calandale - why are you on the shit list?!?!
Anyway, I'd like to call out MrMark and ask him why he's all of a sudden decided to become the WP thought police. :police:
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Maybe Alex ran out of them? :P
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Calandale - why are you on the shit list?!?!
Anyway, I'd like to call out MrMark and ask him why he's all of a sudden decided to become the WP thought police. :police:
He has always been the thought police. In fact I think he and I started within a month of each other. At first I liked him and his attention to the safety of those less able to cope was welcomed, but his sense of boundary is lacking.
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And I do think that some of the more emotionally vulnerable WP members need someone to look out for them. But when we do it, we're overstepping our bounds. ::)
MrMark is going overboard with bannings and deletions of people just joking around with one another.
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I'm sure he's merely being a good dog to the boy king.
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i still think that alex was contacted by the FBI, and that he appointed mr mark to clean the place up....become more of a support site.
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i still think that alex was contacted by the FBI, and that he appointed mr mark to clean the place up....become more of a support site.
It's possible. I know that he said that he was going to contact the FBI about JBM. He may have also done so with Atomik Fucktard. As far as I'm concerned, they can both be taken to Guantanamo and sodomized with sandpaper - they aren't even remotely entertaining as trolls.
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i still think that alex was contacted by the FBI, and that he appointed mr mark to clean the place up....become more of a support site.
It's possible. I know that he said that he was going to contact the FBI about JBM. He may have also done so with Atomik Fucktard. As far as I'm concerned, they can both be taken to Guantanamo and sodomized with sandpaper - they aren't even remotely entertaining as trolls.
i was talking about a mod started a thread in the haven condoning adult/children relationships.
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That would be fun. I'm sure they could make Alex talk.
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i still think that alex was contacted by the FBI, and that he appointed mr mark to clean the place up....become more of a support site.
It's possible. I know that he said that he was going to contact the FBI about JBM. He may have also done so with Atomik Fucktard. As far as I'm concerned, they can both be taken to Guantanamo and sodomized with sandpaper - they aren't even remotely entertaining as trolls.
Do they belong here?
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i still think that alex was contacted by the FBI, and that he appointed mr mark to clean the place up....become more of a support site.
It's possible. I know that he said that he was going to contact the FBI about JBM. He may have also done so with Atomik Fucktard. As far as I'm concerned, they can both be taken to Guantanamo and sodomized with sandpaper - they aren't even remotely entertaining as trolls.
Do they belong here?
Of course, we always need people who aren't remotely entertaining.
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Do they belong here?
No... They suck. All they did was post page after fucking page of the word "SPAM" or "PWNED" over and over again in the forums. It was :yawn: AND annoying, because you'd have to scroll through all these garbage posts to find the real interesting stuff (to the extent that WP can be interesting).
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Presumably, they were posters there BEFORE that though.
Can't imagine why anyone would give a shit otherwise.
Would love to see the original stuff - but I'm guessing
that it was some 13 yr old boy.
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why would anyone call the FBI about someone on the internet unless they doing something horribly illegal? is there anything the FBI can really do for a spammer? my guess is the'd laugh at you and deny your request :laugh:
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Presumably, they were posters there BEFORE that though.
Can't imagine why anyone would give a shit otherwise.
Would love to see the original stuff - but I'm guessing
that it was some 13 yr old boy.
Oh, nevermind.
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So why isn't TM1 over here, defending himself. I never got the impression that he was a wimp, before.
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He MAY feel that it's wrong to air the dirty
laundry here. He may be right. Before I was
asked whether I wanted to be de-modded,
I felt that I owed no such standard. Now, I'm
unsure.
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He MAY feel that it's wrong to air the dirty
laundry here. He may be right. Before I was
asked whether I wanted to be de-modded,
I felt that I owed no such standard. Now, I'm
unsure.
do you believe your own shit?
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He MAY feel that it's wrong to air the dirty
laundry here. He may be right. Before I was
asked whether I wanted to be de-modded,
I felt that I owed no such standard. Now, I'm
unsure.
do you believe your own shit?
No, I flush it. Don't speak to it at
all. I'm afraid that you're the only
one here with THAT obsession.