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Title: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Teejay on April 23, 2007, 09:47:42 PM
This is an sensitive issue, however do you approve of the mentally handicapped being castrated. If I did not see myself as handicapped I would be all in favor or it. Seeing that people below a certain functioning level aren't capable of having sexual or romantic relationships.

I would be uncertain of myself going through the operation in practicing what I preach. There could be great benefits for me being castrated, like having no sex drive and being much more able to focus on other things in my life.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: McGiver on April 23, 2007, 10:07:10 PM
i think that rapists and child molesters shoulf be castrated.
but i believe that you should have a vasectomy.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Teejay on April 23, 2007, 10:09:15 PM
i think that rapists and child molesters shoulf be castrated.
but i believe that you should have a vasectomy.

Well it is a good idea I see myself as mentally handicapped or better or worse, or else I would be really in favor of such things. I confess can be a total nut.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: McGiver on April 23, 2007, 10:12:34 PM
i do not believe that you deserve castration.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Teejay on April 23, 2007, 10:17:02 PM
i do not believe that you deserve castration.

Yes I agree, It is just an idle thought of mine.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on April 23, 2007, 11:03:20 PM
There could be great benefits for me being castrated, like having no sex drive and being much more able to focus on other things in my life.

Castration does not guarantee relief from sex drive. Not sure about chemical, but it still can
exist through surgical.

i think that rapists and child molesters shoulf be castrated.


Which is why this is not a reasonable solution. Moreover, rape and pedophilia need not
have any sexual gratification associated with them. 
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: McGiver on April 24, 2007, 03:48:18 AM
There could be great benefits for me being castrated, like having no sex drive and being much more able to focus on other things in my life.

Castration does not guarantee relief from sex drive. Not sure about chemical, but it still can
exist through surgical.

i think that rapists and child molesters shoulf be castrated.


Which is why this is not a reasonable solution. Moreover, rape and pedophilia need not
have any sexual gratification associated with them. 

is it a power thing?

maybe labotomy's would do better?
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on April 24, 2007, 03:59:39 AM
I don't know. It seems that there is a big difference between
what is known as 'date rape' and the experience that I had,
which was definitely a desire to inflict suffering in retaliation
for what I was getting from her. Some of it may have been
power, but it felt rather like giving in to the pure glory of
my insanity, as my rages often do. I think it is more of
an anger thing, in my case.

But, I'm probably not your typical rapist. And I can't
really imagine pedophilia. But, I know that I've done
some pretty weird stuff just because I felt the need
to get my dick wet, so who knows, if I thought that
I could get away with it?
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: purposefulinsanity on April 24, 2007, 05:34:23 AM
I wouldn't agree with castration but I can understand why some feel that those who will never have the mental age of an adult should be prevented from having children (through sterilisation, depo injections, etc).  I have mixed feelings about this though- in the simplest scenario do the rights of the individual who decides they want a baby (even if they can't take care of themselves) come before the rights of the child to be raised by parents who have a reasonable level of functioning? 
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: DirtDawg on April 24, 2007, 07:11:39 AM
There could be great benefits for me being castrated, like having no sex drive and being much more able to focus on other things in my life.

Castration does not guarantee relief from sex drive. Not sure about chemical, but it still can
exist through surgical.

i think that rapists and child molesters shoulf be castrated.


Which is why this is not a reasonable solution. Moreover, rape and pedophilia need not
have any sexual gratification associated with them. 

is it a power thing?

maybe labotomy's would do better?

... or maybe something like making their father's Misssed Castration retroactive?
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Pyraxis on April 24, 2007, 12:40:16 PM
I wouldn't agree with castration but I can understand why some feel that those who will never have the mental age of an adult should be prevented from having children (through sterilisation, depo injections, etc).  I have mixed feelings about this though- in the simplest scenario do the rights of the individual who decides they want a baby (even if they can't take care of themselves) come before the rights of the child to be raised by parents who have a reasonable level of functioning? 

It's a tough question. I've wondered about this one for a while. Maybe the best answer is to allow the parents to have the child, but to provide support workers of some sort in the home, so that the child is regularly exposed to a reliable adult. Yes - expensive. More so than putting the question out of sight, out of mind with castration. But I think better than the alternatives.

I don't agree with forced castration of anybody, regardless of mental functioning. A low IQ should not be an excuse for violating a person's rights. Also there are all kinds of measurement problems with IQ tests as unreliable as they are. There are plenty of autistics who have tested as very low IQ early in life due to sensory or communication problems, but later when they learned how to communicate, tested into and beyond normal range.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Nomaken on April 24, 2007, 12:48:45 PM
If you are going to start making decisions for people against their will, or without their will, you might as well make them slaves or just shoot them in the head.  No need to make half assed alterations like minor mutilation.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Pyraxis on April 24, 2007, 12:51:46 PM
Indeed.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: The_P on April 24, 2007, 12:52:59 PM
If you are going to start making decisions for people against their will, or without their will, you might as well make them slaves or just shoot them in the head.  No need to make half assed alterations like minor mutilation.

Nice one. +
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: McGiver on April 24, 2007, 01:41:04 PM
I wouldn't agree with castration but I can understand why some feel that those who will never have the mental age of an adult should be prevented from having children (through sterilisation, depo injections, etc).  I have mixed feelings about this though- in the simplest scenario do the rights of the individual who decides they want a baby (even if they can't take care of themselves) come before the rights of the child to be raised by parents who have a reasonable level of functioning? 

It's a tough question. I've wondered about this one for a while. Maybe the best answer is to allow the parents to have the child, but to provide support workers of some sort in the home, so that the child is regularly exposed to a reliable adult. Yes - expensive. More so than putting the question out of sight, out of mind with castration. But I think better than the alternatives.

I don't agree with forced castration of anybody, regardless of mental functioning. A low IQ should not be an excuse for violating a person's rights. Also there are all kinds of measurement problems with IQ tests as unreliable as they are. There are plenty of autistics who have tested as very low IQ early in life due to sensory or communication problems, but later when they learned how to communicate, tested into and beyond normal range.
i was watching a documentary about the master arian race in the 30's germany.
guess what they used to do?
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: purposefulinsanity on April 24, 2007, 02:16:56 PM
I wouldn't agree with castration but I can understand why some feel that those who will never have the mental age of an adult should be prevented from having children (through sterilisation, depo injections, etc).  I have mixed feelings about this though- in the simplest scenario do the rights of the individual who decides they want a baby (even if they can't take care of themselves) come before the rights of the child to be raised by parents who have a reasonable level of functioning? 

It's a tough question. I've wondered about this one for a while. Maybe the best answer is to allow the parents to have the child, but to provide support workers of some sort in the home, so that the child is regularly exposed to a reliable adult. Yes - expensive. More so than putting the question out of sight, out of mind with castration. But I think better than the alternatives.


   I agree that the support should be there for those who need it, regardless of the expense- unfortunately it seems rare that adequate support is provided.  This issue aside I think there's probably a lot of people out there who could do a lot more if they were only given the support and encouragement.  I know this is partly off topic but there's been some comments about how affected most of the members are by ASD (with claims that because many have jobs/relationships/both they obviously can't be as 'severely affected' as others).  I personally wonder if the differences in level of functioning could also be due, in part, to the fact that many of those that do seem to be higher functioning didn't find out about ASD's until they were already grown adults.  So they've had to find ways to cope, people didn't have preconceived notions about what they could/couldn't do.

  Back to the original issue I think problems can arise when the parent of a person with a low IQ/low emotional maturity  makes decisions about what they will be capable of understanding/doing  instead of actually giving them a chance and finding out.  Not only does it hold them back, it can also leave them vulnerable when away from that parent (e.g. not teaching them about sex because the parent believes they don't have the emotional maturity to understand could leave them prey to abusive people). 

Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on April 24, 2007, 04:49:43 PM
If you are going to start making decisions for people against their will, or without their will, you might as well make them slaves or just shoot them in the head.  No need to make half assed alterations like minor mutilation.

Nice one. +

Me too, but he's non-plussed.

... or maybe something like making their father's Misssed Castration retroactive?

We think too alike.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: El on April 25, 2007, 06:02:18 AM
Parking for the mentally handicapped:  http://www.cafepress.com/rose_madder.18508708
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Rabbit From Hell on April 26, 2007, 02:27:01 PM
no, that's one fucked up idea

 :finger: to anyone who thinks it's a good idea and  :finger: to them again the  :wanker: :wanker: :wanker:
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on April 26, 2007, 07:37:20 PM
Parking for the mentally handicapped:  http://www.cafepress.com/rose_madder.18508708

no, that's one fucked up idea

 :finger: to anyone who thinks it's a good idea and  :finger: to them again the  :wanker: :wanker: :wanker:

I agree. They shouldn't even be allowed to drive.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: The_P on April 27, 2007, 05:18:25 AM
Parking for the mentally handicapped:  http://www.cafepress.com/rose_madder.18508708

no, that's one fucked up idea

 :finger: to anyone who thinks it's a good idea and  :finger: to them again the  :wanker: :wanker: :wanker:

I agree. They shouldn't even be allowed to drive.

I chose not to for the time being, old man.  :finger:
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on April 27, 2007, 05:26:19 AM
So, you're handicapped?

I too don't drive. Only did so for about
two years. It sucks, but not much
choice in NJ.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: paradox on April 27, 2007, 06:53:55 AM
I would like to cull a lot of people or at least take them out of the gean pool id start with sports stars and dum people, oh and bible bashes.
if i ever reach my goal of supreme god empress of the world there is going to be a serous reduction in the human population
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: McGiver on April 27, 2007, 07:02:51 AM
I would like to cull a lot of people or at least take them out of the gean pool id start with sports stars and dum people, oh and bible bashes.

if i ever reach my goal of supreme god empress of the world there is going to be a serous reduction in the human population


but more people to service you?
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: paradox on April 27, 2007, 08:46:05 AM
I would like to cull a lot of people or at least take them out of the gean pool id start with sports stars and dum people, oh and bible bashes.

if i ever reach my goal of supreme god empress of the world there is going to be a serous reduction in the human population


but more people to service you?

mm what a nice thought
only the creme of the crop would be taken to my palace to serve as my slaves
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: McGiver on April 27, 2007, 01:59:43 PM
I would like to cull a lot of people or at least take them out of the gean pool id start with sports stars and dum people, oh and bible bashes.

if i ever reach my goal of supreme god empress of the world there is going to be a serous reduction in the human population


but more people to service you?

mm what a nice thought
only the creme of the crop would be taken to my palace to serve as my slaves
can i be he who is in charge of manuicuring your vagina?
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: paradox on April 29, 2007, 10:17:34 PM
It would b a easy job
not much fuss down there me being a red head
Maybe you can also b the master of sorting my undies as well
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Litigious on April 29, 2007, 10:19:40 PM
Are you stupid or why do you type like a teenager?
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on April 29, 2007, 10:25:06 PM
Are you stupid or why do you type like a teenager?
:plus:

Damn! I'm glad someone else thinks so too.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: paradox on April 30, 2007, 12:12:56 AM
fuck u  :upyours:

my typing is not related to ether my brains or my age

if u had bothered to ask nicely i may have explained


but u can both fuck off
"cunts"
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on April 30, 2007, 12:21:38 AM
I've found a number of your posts unintelligible.
I also rather consider it a sign of disrespect to
anyone reading them. But, if you wish to
disabuse me of that notion, feel free.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: paradox on April 30, 2007, 01:06:51 AM
thank you for being polite
i try very hard to make my posts as readable as possibly
i spend a lot of time spell checking them
there is no magic punctuation help tho
i have disgrapher – no I can not spell it
But it means that I have the spelling and punctuation of a 7y 8m old by the Australian spelled standards
how the problems caused by my disability are me being disrespectful to other people I do not know
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on April 30, 2007, 01:20:54 AM
Ah. Sorry for snapping. I'm so used to being
on forums with young kids who are so used
to using text messaging, and a number of your
posts looked a lot like these; an example is using
the b instead of be, or u instead of you.

These things make sense when you're paying by
the character, or in certain real-time games, but
just make posts hard to read otherwise. Hell, when
I'm sotted, I have a lot of trouble posting clearly, and
end up having to go over and over again retyping.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: paradox on April 30, 2007, 04:45:39 AM
every one i know uses thos shorting of words and it is hard for me to rember what is the real spelling (if i know it at all)
i did not know it was not done on forams and will try to do it your way
if i stick around
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on April 30, 2007, 04:48:02 AM
Your posts have certainly gotten more understandable
to me, at least. I kind of see it as an issue that if what
you have to say is important enough to share, it's probably
worth making sure that others can understand it.

But, I can understand if you wander away. This place
is not for the thin skinned.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: McGiver on April 30, 2007, 06:17:38 AM
It would b a easy job
not much fuss down there me being a red head
Maybe you can also b the master of sorting my undies as well


sure, i will sort by sniffing them.
that way i can gauge the days of the week that you are at your juiciest.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: paradox on April 30, 2007, 06:47:27 AM
Your posts have certainly gotten more understandable
to me, at least. I kind of see it as an issue that if what
you have to say is important enough to share, it's probably
worth making sure that others can understand it.

But, I can understand if you wander away. This place
is not for the thin skinned.

i was expecting it i am not really thin skin
i just did not expect to get attacked repetitively by people who seem like ok human beings
 about a disiblity that i have struggled with all my life
with out them bothering to nicely ask me about it first
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: renaeden on July 10, 2007, 12:02:43 PM
If you are going to start making decisions for people against their will, or without their will, you might as well make them slaves or just shoot them in the head.  No need to make half assed alterations like minor mutilation.
I cannot make other people's decisions like this but I can make one for myself regarding this subject.

I need help looking after myself so I do not think I would be able to look after and be responsible for a child. It would be cruel to the child and I am not joking about this.

I have asked the doctor if I can have a hysterectomy and he told me I am too young.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Callaway on July 10, 2007, 12:27:52 PM
If you are going to start making decisions for people against their will, or without their will, you might as well make them slaves or just shoot them in the head.  No need to make half assed alterations like minor mutilation.
I cannot make other people's decisions like this but I can make one for myself regarding this subject.

I need help looking after myself so I do not think I would be able to look after and be responsible for a child. It would be cruel to the child and I am not joking about this.

I have asked the doctor if I can have a hysterectomy and he told me I am too young.

Aren't you still taking Depo Provera?  I would think that will keep you from getting pregnant as long as you take it.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Peter on July 10, 2007, 12:30:39 PM
Parking for the mentally handicapped:  http://www.cafepress.com/rose_madder.18508708

Great value too, at only $101.25 per button.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: El on July 10, 2007, 05:06:26 PM
Parking for the mentally handicapped:  http://www.cafepress.com/rose_madder.18508708

Great value too, at only $101.25 per button.

Jeeeez, WTF happened with that?   I hope cafepress glitched, not me.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: renaeden on July 11, 2007, 04:54:01 AM
If you are going to start making decisions for people against their will, or without their will, you might as well make them slaves or just shoot them in the head.  No need to make half assed alterations like minor mutilation.
I cannot make other people's decisions like this but I can make one for myself regarding this subject.

I need help looking after myself so I do not think I would be able to look after and be responsible for a child. It would be cruel to the child and I am not joking about this.

I have asked the doctor if I can have a hysterectomy and he told me I am too young.

Aren't you still taking Depo Provera?  I would think that will keep you from getting pregnant as long as you take it.
Yes, I am still having Depo Provera injections. I asked the question about the hysterectomy before I went on that. I was desperate and very uncomfortable with my hormone problems back then.

My post above was what I thought when GalileoAce and I were talking about families. He has expressed interest in having kids but I just don't think I can do it.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Janicka on July 12, 2007, 08:51:46 PM
If you are going to start making decisions for people against their will, or without their will, you might as well make them slaves or just shoot them in the head.  No need to make half assed alterations like minor mutilation.

 :plus:

The Supreme Court ruled on this issue a long time ago. 

If you want to be sterilised because you recognize that you wouldn't be a good parent, go ahead.  But forced sterilizations are totally wrong.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: McGiver on July 14, 2007, 09:36:01 AM
i remember in the book, sound and the fury, that the retarded brother was sterilized.  that was common practice in america, not that long ago.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: maldoror on July 15, 2007, 12:46:49 PM
Mutilation is cruel and unusual.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Lucifer on July 15, 2007, 02:23:13 PM
Mutilation is cruel and unusual.

try telling the second bit to all the thousands of girls who have to suffer clitoridectomies, and other forms of genital mutilation.

anyway, aren't most american males circumcised, unnecessarily, i might add, as a matter of course?  i may be wrong, here, but it's what i know from my experience (sometimes, just talking, before you get excited).
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: maldoror on July 15, 2007, 03:22:39 PM
Mutilation is cruel and unusual.

try telling the second bit to all the thousands of girls who have to suffer clitoridectomies, and other forms of genital mutilation.

anyway, aren't most american males circumcised, unnecessarily, i might add, as a matter of course?  i may be wrong, here, but it's what i know from my experience (sometimes, just talking, before you get excited).

Okay, so is that. What's your point? Circumcision is sort of in a different ballpark than castration, and as far as I know the amount of guys here in the US who are circumcized is far from "most."
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on July 15, 2007, 09:47:26 PM
Mutilation is cruel and unusual.

But a fun game, nonetheless.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on July 15, 2007, 09:49:03 PM
Mutilation is cruel and unusual.

try telling the second bit to all the thousands of girls who have to suffer clitoridectomies, and other forms of genital mutilation.

anyway, aren't most american males circumcised, unnecessarily, i might add, as a matter of course?  i may be wrong, here, but it's what i know from my experience (sometimes, just talking, before you get excited).

Okay, so is that. What's your point? Circumcision is sort of in a different ballpark than castration, and as far as I know the amount of guys here in the US who are circumcized is far from "most."

It used to be pretty damned common.
My folks had to argue to prevent having
it done. I think it's no longer the standard
that it once was though.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Lucifer on July 16, 2007, 03:15:18 AM
that's a relief.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on July 16, 2007, 11:11:51 PM
I had to wear underwear once,
when I was playing a Jew, in a play,
as the material of my pants, along
with the lighting, made it clear that
I was not in character.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Alex179 on July 17, 2007, 12:18:03 AM
I am circumsized, thankfully I don't remember it as I was way too fucking young haha.   I wonder why people do it anymore.   Well the important part is that I am ok now.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Gluey on July 29, 2007, 12:38:20 AM
There could be great benefits for me being castrated, like having no sex drive and being much more able to focus on other things in my life.

Castration does not guarantee relief from sex drive. Not sure about chemical, but it still can
exist through surgical.

i think that rapists and child molesters shoulf be castrated.


Which is why this is not a reasonable solution. Moreover, rape and pedophilia need not
have any sexual gratification associated with them. 


It's true castration may not relive sex drive. Experts say the most active sex organ is the brain and you couldn't get your bran removed.....
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on July 29, 2007, 05:41:54 AM
...and you couldn't get your bran removed.....

why not?
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: The_P on July 29, 2007, 07:27:00 AM
I was circumcised when I was around 20, I think.

Then I masturbated for the first time in the following year. It made be sick.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: renaeden on July 29, 2007, 09:08:56 AM
At 20? I have never heard of it being done at that age. Why was it done?
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Callaway on July 29, 2007, 12:19:37 PM
I was circumcised when I was around 20, I think.

Then I masturbated for the first time in the following year. It made be sick.

At 20?

Was your foreskin too tight to retract?  I think it is called phimosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phimosis

How badly did the circumcision hurt?
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Christopher McCandless on July 29, 2007, 12:23:37 PM
I was circumcised when I was around 20, I think.

Then I masturbated for the first time in the following year. It made be sick.

At 20?

Was your foreskin too tight to retract?  I think it is called phimosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phimosis

How badly did the circumcision hurt?
Callaway, may I ask why you are asking Peegai for all these grusome details. I doubt my stomach could take it...
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Callaway on July 29, 2007, 12:27:37 PM
I was circumcised when I was around 20, I think.

Then I masturbated for the first time in the following year. It made be sick.

At 20?

Was your foreskin too tight to retract?  I think it is called phimosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phimosis

How badly did the circumcision hurt?
Callaway, may I ask why you are asking Peegai for all these grusome details. I doubt my stomach could take it...

I used to think that if I had a little boy, I would have him circumcised.  Everyone I know had it done when they were babies or not at all, so that's why I want to ask him how much it hurt.  As for the rest, I was just curious, but Peaguy knows me well enough to know that he does not have to answer any questions of mine that he doesn't want to.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Christopher McCandless on July 29, 2007, 12:34:43 PM
I was circumcised when I was around 20, I think.

Then I masturbated for the first time in the following year. It made be sick.

At 20?

Was your foreskin too tight to retract?  I think it is called phimosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phimosis

How badly did the circumcision hurt?
Callaway, may I ask why you are asking Peegai for all these grusome details. I doubt my stomach could take it...

I used to think that if I had a little boy, I would have him circumcised.  Everyone I know had it done when they were babies or not at all, so that's why I want to ask him how much it hurt.  As for the rest, I was just curious, but Peaguy knows me well enough to know that he does not have to answer any questions of mine that he doesn't want to.
Almost noone has it done in the UK, unless they are religious I think. I remeber watching an RE video of it being done, it was so damn hillarious the way the rabbi did it. He spoke like the narrator on a childrens show while cutting it off.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Tesla on July 29, 2007, 02:50:28 PM
I was circumcised when I was around 20, I think.

Then I masturbated for the first time in the following year. It made be sick.

At 20?

Was your foreskin too tight to retract?  I think it is called phimosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phimosis

How badly did the circumcision hurt?
Callaway, may I ask why you are asking Peegai for all these grusome details. I doubt my stomach could take it...

I used to think that if I had a little boy, I would have him circumcised.  Everyone I know had it done when they were babies or not at all, so that's why I want to ask him how much it hurt.  As for the rest, I was just curious, but Peaguy knows me well enough to know that he does not have to answer any questions of mine that he doesn't want to.
They anesthetize adults, some babies are not be so lucky.  45% of doctors still do not anesthetize infants when performing the circumcision.  Because: the "procedure does not warrant anesthesia."   ???  Reference: http://www.personalmd.com/news/a1998060404.shtml (http://www.personalmd.com/news/a1998060404.shtml)

I wish I hadn't been circumcised.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Lucifer on July 29, 2007, 02:55:31 PM
why's that?
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: maldoror on July 29, 2007, 03:22:37 PM
I heard that it makes yr. penis less sensitive; maybe that has something to do with it.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Tesla on July 29, 2007, 03:35:29 PM
why's that?
Loss of sensation.  Circumcision ablates the most sensitive parts of the penis.

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the foreskin contains 50% of the surface area of the penis. Each circumcision cuts off what would grow to be 6 inches of tissue, laden with 240 feet of nerves and 1,000 nerve endings Removal of it can only lead to a drastic loss of sensation during sexual activity.

That, and there's really no other reason for it.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Lucifer on July 29, 2007, 03:37:05 PM
yuck.  sounds barbaric to me.  :(

:hug:
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Tesla on July 29, 2007, 06:57:05 PM
yuck.  sounds barbaric to me.  :(

:hug:
Indeed.  There is far too much barbarism in this world for us to consider ourselves so advanced and civilized. 

Fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: maldoror on July 29, 2007, 10:18:29 PM
Isn't it supposed to prevent some sort of disease though? I wasn't circumcized, but I was raised Jewish.  :shamone:
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Scrapheap on July 29, 2007, 10:34:03 PM
That would explain why it's been some time since a girl made me get off.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on July 30, 2007, 12:13:18 AM

They anesthetize adults, some babies are not be so lucky.  45% of doctors still do not anesthetize infants when performing the circumcision.  Because: the "procedure does not warrant anesthesia."   ???  Reference:

Well, anesthesia is always a major risk.
Especially with a young patient.

And, it's not like they're really human yet.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on July 30, 2007, 12:16:11 AM
why's that?
Loss of sensation.  Circumcision ablates the most sensitive parts of the penis.

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the foreskin contains 50% of the surface area of the penis. Each circumcision cuts off what would grow to be 6 inches of tissue, laden with 240 feet of nerves and 1,000 nerve endings Removal of it can only lead to a drastic loss of sensation during sexual activity.

I don't know about this. I had a frank discussion
once, with guys my age, and the ones who were
clipped seemed to have an easier time getting off,
especially from oral. I had brought it up, after something
in Penthouse suggested the same.

Basically, the theory is that the foreskin makes one
stroke harder when masturbating, and thus desensitizes
the head.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Lucifer on July 30, 2007, 01:56:04 AM
yuck.  sounds barbaric to me.  :(

:hug:
Indeed.  There is far too much barbarism in this world for us to consider ourselves so advanced and civilized. 

Fuck 'em.

QFT.   :plus:
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: renaeden on August 02, 2007, 07:22:50 AM
They anesthetize adults, some babies are not be so lucky.  45% of doctors still do not anesthetize infants when performing the circumcision.  Because: the "procedure does not warrant anesthesia."   ???  Reference:
Well, anesthesia is always a major risk.
Especially with a young patient.
Local anaesthetic?

I thought being circumsised would make a guy less prone to infections and stuff because the area is easier to clean.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Tesla on August 02, 2007, 08:12:01 AM
They anesthetize adults, some babies are not be so lucky.  45% of doctors still do not anesthetize infants when performing the circumcision.  Because: the "procedure does not warrant anesthesia."   ???  Reference:
Well, anesthesia is always a major risk.
Especially with a young patient.
Local anaesthetic?

I thought being circumsised would make a guy less prone to infections and stuff because the area is easier to clean.
No, in fact, the foreskin helps protect against infection.  The glans penis is an internal organ until puberty, which is why you should never retract a prepubescent boy's foreskin in order to clean in there.  It is actually attached to the glans penis and can cause damage if it is forced to retract. 

Besides, if that were the case then everyone would have their tonsils removed at birth.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: renaeden on August 02, 2007, 08:18:59 AM
They anesthetize adults, some babies are not be so lucky.  45% of doctors still do not anesthetize infants when performing the circumcision.  Because: the "procedure does not warrant anesthesia."   ???  Reference:
Well, anesthesia is always a major risk.
Especially with a young patient.
Local anaesthetic?
I thought being circumsised would make a guy less prone to infections and stuff because the area is easier to clean.
No, in fact, the foreskin helps protect against infection.  The glans penis is an internal organ until puberty, which is why you should never retract a prepubescent boy's foreskin in order to clean in there.  It is actually attached to the glans penis and can cause damage if it is forced to retract. 
Besides, if that were the case then everyone would have their tonsils removed at birth.
Wow, I never knew all that. Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Eclair on August 02, 2007, 09:09:40 AM
They anesthetize adults, some babies are not be so lucky.  45% of doctors still do not anesthetize infants when performing the circumcision.  Because: the "procedure does not warrant anesthesia."   ???  Reference:
Well, anesthesia is always a major risk.
Especially with a young patient.
Local anaesthetic?

I thought being circumsised would make a guy less prone to infections and stuff because the area is easier to clean.

Circumcision also makes the penis smaller at erection than had it not been circumcised.  Less play in the skin to increase the length.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Kiriana on August 02, 2007, 10:30:34 AM
They anesthetize adults, some babies are not be so lucky.  45% of doctors still do not anesthetize infants when performing the circumcision.  Because: the "procedure does not warrant anesthesia."   ???  Reference:
Well, anesthesia is always a major risk.
Especially with a young patient.
Local anaesthetic?

I thought being circumsised would make a guy less prone to infections and stuff because the area is easier to clean.

You'd think they'd do local...but most don't.  Crazy.  As far as infections go, last time I read up on it, there was some tiny reduction in infection, like fractions of a percent, but it's not a big enough difference to justify the risks of surgery.  It's pretty much just a cosmetic thing.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Callaway on August 02, 2007, 11:31:47 AM
They anesthetize adults, some babies are not be so lucky.  45% of doctors still do not anesthetize infants when performing the circumcision.  Because: the "procedure does not warrant anesthesia."   ???  Reference:
Well, anesthesia is always a major risk.
Especially with a young patient.
Local anaesthetic?

I thought being circumsised would make a guy less prone to infections and stuff because the area is easier to clean.

You'd think they'd do local...but most don't.  Crazy.  As far as infections go, last time I read up on it, there was some tiny reduction in infection, like fractions of a percent, but it's not a big enough difference to justify the risks of surgery.  It's pretty much just a cosmetic thing.

Circumcision does give males in Africa some degree of resistance to AIDS, I read.

Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Kiriana on August 02, 2007, 11:43:37 AM
Yeah, I haven't kept up on all the latest stuff, like the AIDS study.  I've heard there's some debate on the validity of the study, but I haven't dug too far into it.  Circ has never been one of my hot button topics, I just have friends who are big time "intactivists", so I hear stuff in passing.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: The_P on August 02, 2007, 01:18:42 PM
They anesthetize adults, some babies are not be so lucky.  45% of doctors still do not anesthetize infants when performing the circumcision.  Because: the "procedure does not warrant anesthesia."   ???  Reference:
Well, anesthesia is always a major risk.
Especially with a young patient.
Local anaesthetic?

I thought being circumsised would make a guy less prone to infections and stuff because the area is easier to clean.

Circumcision also makes the penis smaller at erection than had it not been circumcised.  Less play in the skin to increase the length.

Really? It looks bigger and fatter compared to my non-circumsised days.
Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on August 02, 2007, 05:39:32 PM


Circumcision also makes the penis smaller at erection than had it not been circumcised.  Less play in the skin to increase the length.

Though not all circumcisions are so tight.
I've seen guys with a bit of movement there.

Title: Re: Castration of the mentally handicapped
Post by: Calandale on August 02, 2007, 05:41:10 PM


Circumcision does give males in Africa some degree of resistance to AIDS, I read.



Might make sense. Since naturally it is less subject to
rough contact, the trimming allows for a toughening,
making blood contact less likely.