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Politics, Mature and taboo => AS Advocacy => ASD Related Links => Topic started by: Scrapheap on April 01, 2007, 04:35:14 PM
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I regigstered at AFF recently, and unlike othe forums I've been at, I hardly recognize any names there.
Is there anyone else well known registered there ??
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I'm registered there, but, it's been a while since I last posted. In fact I'v pretty much turfed it to my daughter to go to. She likes the #AFF chat forum once in a while. I don't recall many people from wp on AFF. Most of the members came from AI and AspergianPride originally. There's a lot of bad feeling between Amy and Gareth against Alex, that goes back to the beginnings of wp. It's pretty much in the distant past as far as internet forums go.
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I go to the AFF site as well.
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I go to the AFF site as well.
are you as big an asphole there as you are here. ;)
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I have an account there but didn't settle down there, so to speak.
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I think that was the place I discovered first when I was googling the spectrum after my diagnosis. I decided they were all rabid self-obsessed fanatics and I wanted nothing to do with them.
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meh, i just don't have the patience to be regulated for my behaviour.
i have learned to be comfortable with myself. i don't need others telling me that i am bad, and punishing me for it.
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I think I'm a member there, and that's about it...
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I'm there - though with a different username. Haven't been active for some time, though. I've lost interest; it has stagnated, few things of interest being discussed anymore (save for in revived threads years of age), much of the old community having left, and the new largely being pretty different, which has gradually made AFF an uninteresting place.
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They need to get hobbies besides their autism. Autism this, autism that, blah, blah, blah...
Hokay, it's not witty, but hey: I'm retired.
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Actually, Amy knits.
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Actually, Amy knits.
:laugh:
This is actually hysterically funny. :LMAO: :rofl: +
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Amy is quite an expert in knitting from all the stuff I have read and spoken with her about. She was quite fascinated when I told her that my wife was an expert knitter and seamstress and that Amber was getting proficient in knitting as well. MAybe it's enough of a stim like thing that makes it attractive for some aspies.
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So I've gathered. I don't mind her knitting, quite the contrary, but Callaway's remark was perfectly timed.
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Ok, I got it.
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i think that PI knits.
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i think that PI knits.
Yeah, PI knits like fuck. She's a punk knitter. :headbang:
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i think that PI knits.
Yeah, PI knits like fuck. She's a punk knitter. :headbang:
Oh dear........ :eyebrows:............so many things to say, so little time! :evillaugh:
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Yeah I knit and I think Ozy is right it is pretty stim like- I can't relax unless I've got something to keep my hands occupied. I've always got at least 2 projects on the go. Only trouble I've found with it is that I can get obsessed with finishing something and will keep going long after I should have taken a break.
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Yeah I knit and I think Ozy is right it is pretty stim like- I can't relax unless I've got something to keep my hands occupied. I've always got at least 2 projects on the go.
Sounds like you need your feet occupied as well.
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Yeah I knit and I think Ozy is right it is pretty stim like- I can't relax unless I've got something to keep my hands occupied. I've always got at least 2 projects on the go. Only trouble I've found with it is that I can get obsessed with finishing something and will keep going long after I should have taken a break.
will you knit me a cock-warmer?
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Yeah I knit and I think Ozy is right it is pretty stim like- I can't relax unless I've got something to keep my hands occupied. I've always got at least 2 projects on the go. Only trouble I've found with it is that I can get obsessed with finishing something and will keep going long after I should have taken a break.
will you knit me a cock-warmer?
As weird as it may seem, my now deceased mother-in-law, used to knit cock and ball one-piece warmers. It was one of her little cute prank gifts, she made, usually with red yarn. She called it a Red Private Wooly. One of the ways I was welcomed into the family was that I had to be embarrassed in a group of people, receiving my RPW from my elderly mother-in-law, as a gift. Her daughter (my wife) has her sense of humor, too.
I don't embarrass very easily, and I can't fake that one well, either. I just laughed and complained about the ball part being too small.
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awesome story.
i'd fit right in with her family.
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Do you use it?
Did you have to model it for them?
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Of course, I tried it on, but I modeled for only one person. I was right - the ball part was too small. It was also quite wooly, which I like at times, but not there.
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Of course, I tried it on, but I modeled for only one person. I was right - the ball part was too small. It was also quite wooly, which I like at times, but not there.
do you still have it?
will you model it for us?
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Of course, I tried it on, but I modeled for only one person. I was right - the ball part was too small. It was also quite wooly, which I like at times, but not there.
Eh, you could get used to it. Is it nice and snug feeling?
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Of course, I tried it on, but I modeled for only one person. I was right - the ball part was too small. It was also quite wooly, which I like at times, but not there.
do you still have it?
will you model it for us?
Nope, I passed the joke on. I gave it to my niece-in-law as a wedding present, when she married my nephew. I was a big hit. I happened to be photographing the wedding, too and I got great reaction shots. No, I won't post them, either.
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Yeah I knit and I think Ozy is right it is pretty stim like- I can't relax unless I've got something to keep my hands occupied. I've always got at least 2 projects on the go. Only trouble I've found with it is that I can get obsessed with finishing something and will keep going long after I should have taken a break.
will you knit me a cock-warmer?
I actually made one for a friend of my parents when I was in France last summer for a joke birthday present- I only had a couple of hours to make it so I crocheted it instead. He complained I'd made it too big :laugh:
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Yeah I knit and I think Ozy is right it is pretty stim like- I can't relax unless I've got something to keep my hands occupied. I've always got at least 2 projects on the go. Only trouble I've found with it is that I can get obsessed with finishing something and will keep going long after I should have taken a break.
will you knit me a cock-warmer?
I actually made one for a friend of my parents when I was in France last summer for a joke birthday present- I only had a couple of hours to make it so I crocheted it instead. He complained I'd made it too big :laugh:
but you would have to assume that if it was kept warm, then it wouldn't do the shy turtle impression.
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Since he kept starring at my cleavage I told him I made sure to allow some room to grow ;)
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Since he kept starring at my cleavage I told him I made sure to allow some room to grow ;)
funny how it is.
babies eyes are drawn to shiny objects that move.
women, it's all things fancy.
but for men, it's cleavage.
oh the magic of cleavage.
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I always find my eyes drawn to mouths, hands and crotches for some reason. :P
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i also am drawn to hips.
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I'm drawn to the space around the person.
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I'm drawn to the space around the person.
please don't tell me that you can see peoples aura's.
that would be complete hokkum!
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Nothing wrong with hokkum. Knew a couple of people who claimed they could.
Seemed so out of my experience that I couldn't quite get it though. But, I've
seen enough weird shit that I don't toss it out, out of hand.
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I'm drawn to the space around the person.
please don't tell me that you can see peoples aura's.
that would be complete hokkum!
I'm a synesthete, does that count?
But all I meant here was that I don't like looking directly at people (probably overload issues) so I end up looking off to the side instead.
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oh.
i thought you would look down on me if you ever looked upon my unkempt home.
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Well, I probably would remember your home better than you. I love architecture and room layouts.
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i also am drawn to hips.
Me too. :drool:
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Well, I probably would remember your home better than you. I love architecture and room layouts.
you would remember me more than my bedroom if you let me do whatever i pleased with your nether region.
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Well, I probably would remember your home better than you. I love architecture and room layouts.
you would remember me more than my bedroom if you let me do whatever i pleased with your nether region.
Probably not.
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Well, I probably would remember your home better than you. I love architecture and room layouts.
you would remember me more than my bedroom if you let me do whatever i pleased with your nether region.
Probably not.
yeah, i know. it was a bluff.
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Calandale - and you would be an authority on the matter why?
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Calandale - and you would be an authority on the matter why?
I am the master of assumptions.
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Calandale - and you would be an authority on the matter why?
I am the master of assumptions.
Assumptions, assumptions, what is your grumption?
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I am the master of assumptions.
Funny, I thought that was me.
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How's their kid doing? AFF has a very isolationist slant. A world of only aspies would be disaster.
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Bringing this thread back to life, I honestly would like to know WHY "Aspies" For Freedom shows such strong favoritism to gays; EVEN IF those gays are NeuroTypical. All I can think of that Amy Nelson is a total FAGhag and so she gives permission for homos like Max the bear to litter the site with his Bullshit and ignores the endless stream of complaints about his behaviour. I thought when I joined that is was an Aspie forum but its really turning out to be a Gay forum..... >:(
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Bringing this thread back to life, I honestly would like to know WHY "Aspies" For Freedom shows such strong favoritism to gays; EVEN IF those gays are NeuroTypical. All I can think of that Amy Nelson is a total FAGhag and so she gives permission for homos like Max the bear to litter the site with his Bullshit and ignores the endless stream of complaints about his behaviour. I thought when I joined that is was an Aspie forum but its really turning out to be a Gay forum..... >:(
Link? I could have a bit of fun with them I guess if someone wants to make me a fake account... ;)
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Link you say? The URL of the site is:
www.aspiesforfreedom.com (http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com)
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Link you say? The URL of the site is:
www.aspiesforfreedom.com (http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com)
Well to particular threads that I can have a lot of fun in, i know the AFF web address you numpty. Then I can make a new account and show them who really knows about autism rights. :D Kind of a shame its a bit of a lame stage really, but oh well.
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Bringing this thread back to life, I honestly would like to know WHY "Aspies" For Freedom shows such strong favoritism to gays; EVEN IF those gays are NeuroTypical. All I can think of that Amy Nelson is a total FAGhag and so she gives permission for homos like Max the bear to litter the site with his Bullshit and ignores the endless stream of complaints about his behaviour. I thought when I joined that is was an Aspie forum but its really turning out to be a Gay forum..... >:(
And homophobes such as yourself aren't allowed to spread their venom there? poor you. Want a manly hug?
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/snore.
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Bringing this thread back to life, I honestly would like to know WHY "Aspies" For Freedom shows such strong favoritism to gays; EVEN IF those gays are NeuroTypical. All I can think of that Amy Nelson is a total FAGhag and so she gives permission for homos like Max the bear to litter the site with his Bullshit and ignores the endless stream of complaints about his behaviour. I thought when I joined that is was an Aspie forum but its really turning out to be a Gay forum..... >:(
And homophobes such as yourself aren't allowed to spread their venom there? poor you. Want a manly hug?
Since the "gay community" went so bloody PC and started meddling in everything I have very little time for gay rights activism now myself. What disgusts me is that while we aspies get practically victimised for merely being who they are and having little choice in the matter, they get the full gravy train for basically blatent narcissism, particularly those who be "camp". Why should peoples foolish choices be taken well ahead of people being who they are?
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So you say it's a choice, then?
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oh noes, not this discussion again. ::)
it's not a choice to be gay, hadron, although there is some choice as to behaviour, etc. and gay people went through fucking shit too, they're just at a later stage of the "education/understanding/acceptance" curve, as it were.
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So you say it's a choice, then?
Its a choice whether or not to reveal it, and asides it comes out in adolesence, so its a different kettle of fish. Acting camp (which btw is where a lot of shit comes from) is definitely a choice.
oh noes, not this discussion again. ::)
it's not a choice to be gay, hadron, although there is some choice as to behaviour, etc. and gay people went through fucking shit too, they're just at a later stage of the "education/understanding/acceptance" curve, as it were.
Gay people went through shit largely by their own choices, my (more or less former) stepbrother is prime example of that. It is very easy to hide, the camp behaviour on his part was definitely insecure attention seeking, which the gay rights movement provide a mechanism for. Hell yes I know you both are going to disagree with me on this one, but this view of mine has come of experience of certain peoples behaviour.
If anything, the pendulum has swung way too far in their favour. Effectively at our expense by them hogging the lime light. Thanks to lobbying, it is now more of a crime to beat someone up for being gay than disabled, despite the latter in most cases being well more vulnerable. Now why on earth (a) are they and (b) should they be further up the queue than us?
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Why do you feel the need to attack one minority group so you can defend another?
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So you say it's a choice, then?
Its a choice whether or not to reveal it, and asides it comes out in adolesence, so its a different kettle of fish. Acting camp (which btw is where a lot of shit comes from) is definitely a choice.
oh noes, not this discussion again. ::)
it's not a choice to be gay, hadron, although there is some choice as to behaviour, etc. and gay people went through fucking shit too, they're just at a later stage of the "education/understanding/acceptance" curve, as it were.
Gay people went through shit largely by their own choices, my (more or less former) stepbrother is prime example of that. It is very easy to hide, the camp behaviour on his part was definitely insecure attention seeking, which the gay rights movement provide a mechanism for. Hell yes I know you both are going to disagree with me on this one, but this view of mine has come of experience of certain peoples behaviour.
If anything, the pendulum has swung way too far in their favour. Effectively at our expense by them hogging the lime light. Thanks to lobbying, it is now more of a crime to beat someone up for being gay than disabled, despite the latter in most cases being well more vulnerable. Now why on earth (a) are they and (b) should they be further up the queue than us?
that's based on very little experience, hadron - you might want to read up on it a bit more.
and yes, there are gay people who are shits too. they're people.
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:brickwall:
This will not lead anywhere.
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it might - there are gay fooms too, you know.
:laugh:
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:LMAO:
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**ozymandias sits on his hands, shuts his mouth and shrugs, as he doesn't know what and how he should say something.**
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Seriously, "R", this is one fight you can't win. I had problems with what was happening on AFF, BUT, it's Amy and GAreth's domain. It's only a message board, a bunch of scattered electrons assembling themselves on your computer screen. Seriously, what did you expect would happen to you when you posted the "prison raper" piece on there. Or go ballistic like you can do. Remember our little tussle?? Remember how you described your first impression of I2 to me, after I first offered it to you and others on AI???
I'm not fighting you, I'm just presenting some ideas that might be worth thinking about. I could care less about AFF any more, it's not my place, in fact, I'm drifting away from every AS/autism forum that I'm on at present. I'm only on AI, out of strong loyalty to Crucibelle, BUT, If you had posted that video on AI, what do you think I or Crucibelle would have done??
Crucibelle would have banned your ass in a heartbeat. She did it to Gwynfryn, for questioning othe people's dx. She even came back recently, after I unbanned him, and he started doing the same thing, she asked me if I wanted her to ban him again. I told her it was my mess and I would handle it, so I posted a warning and he hasn't been back since.
Now here's how I would have handled you posting that, (remember AI as well as AFF is a family oriented forum, I don't know "Max the Bear" and never will.), first, I would delete that post,
second if you posted it again, I would delete and openly warn you, third if you posted it yet again, I'd ban you. Crucibelle would ban your ass without warning or second thought.
Why am I saying all this, perspective, simple perspective, why are you getting your knickers in a knot over a message board?? I know your an intense and volatile individual, but, your also a deeply methodical and sensitive man. Just stop, take a deep breath and think about all this crap. There's a helluva lot more to life than a "message board."
Oh, BTW, don't stop venting here, just expect others to challenge you on your words, positions and thoughts.
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Bringing this thread back to life, I honestly would like to know WHY "Aspies" For Freedom shows such strong favoritism to gays; EVEN IF those gays are NeuroTypical. All I can think of that Amy Nelson is a total FAGhag and so she gives permission for homos like Max the bear to litter the site with his Bullshit and ignores the endless stream of complaints about his behaviour. I thought when I joined that is was an Aspie forum but its really turning out to be a Gay forum..... >:(
And homophobes such as yourself aren't allowed to spread their venom there? poor you. Want a manly hug?
I dont think you understand. Max the bear was regularly insulting and tauntin people with his passive-aggressive Bullshit so I complained to Amy the admin but she couldnt be bothered to do anything about it. Max then continued to provoke me and asked me sarcastically how it was going with my gf at the time whom I was clearly fed up with and I sprung a witty comeback on him that I would tell him about my lovelife when He told me about his lattest NAMBLA meetings :lol:.
He started with this bullshit when I started a thread ranting about Slutty straight women. So what Im saying is that he and his other gay buttbuds on AFF were allowed to litter their BullShit on AFF with impunity. I warned him in a PM that if he kept it up I would find him in Oakland and Wallop his Bitch_Ass and thats what got me banned. This issue isnt homosexuality, its that certain people on AFF were given priviledges to insult and harass other members and those people happened to be gay. So WTF else am I supposed to conclude?
What pisses me the FUCK off is how gay men have solidarity with straight women and think of themselves as de facto women when they are STILL MEN! >:(
Thats why that BITCH max started giving me shit, because he felt I had insulted straight women. St00pid fag............. :grrr:
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:brickwall:
This will not lead anywhere.
Not true!
I've heard that ALL drains lead to the ocean.
*flushes*
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it might - there are gay fooms too, you know.
:laugh:
*teehees, like a ten year old, precocious child*
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Why do you feel the need to attack one minority group so you can defend another?
One is a minority by choice, another is born into it, is my line. Ideally there should be no such concept as a minority group, people should be individuals. Obviously under the current social order this is practically impossible of course, but by one group setting themselves aside as a minority in such a provocative manner (hell its not just the gays who do this, and all groups who do this are going to attrct my ire here) they are perpetuating the system for their own ends.
So you say it's a choice, then?
Its a choice whether or not to reveal it, and asides it comes out in adolesence, so its a different kettle of fish. Acting camp (which btw is where a lot of shit comes from) is definitely a choice.
oh noes, not this discussion again. ::)
it's not a choice to be gay, hadron, although there is some choice as to behaviour, etc. and gay people went through fucking shit too, they're just at a later stage of the "education/understanding/acceptance" curve, as it were.
Gay people went through shit largely by their own choices, my (more or less former) stepbrother is prime example of that. It is very easy to hide, the camp behaviour on his part was definitely insecure attention seeking, which the gay rights movement provide a mechanism for. Hell yes I know you both are going to disagree with me on this one, but this view of mine has come of experience of certain peoples behaviour.
If anything, the pendulum has swung way too far in their favour. Effectively at our expense by them hogging the lime light. Thanks to lobbying, it is now more of a crime to beat someone up for being gay than disabled, despite the latter in most cases being well more vulnerable. Now why on earth (a) are they and (b) should they be further up the queue than us?
that's based on very little experience, hadron - you might want to read up on it a bit more.
and yes, there are gay people who are shits too. they're people.
Oh yes true. I have no objection to gay people in general, as long as they are relatively private about it. Its the narcisstic parading and whining that bothers me so much, and the effects it has on others. Stonewall and co are a big group in perpetuating this current nasty PC culture, which incidently gets used against aspies who are liable to speak their minds a little too much.
Bear in mind this is coming from the same guy who was perfectly cool when his stepsibling had his bf around for gay sex. The camp agenda is something totally different, and in most cases is fuelled by personal gain and generally being directly shitty to people. Its this and the activists that go with it that happen to be my bee in my bonett so to speak.
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So you say it's a choice, then?
Its a choice whether or not to reveal it, and asides it comes out in adolesence, so its a different kettle of fish. Acting camp (which btw is where a lot of shit comes from) is definitely a choice.
oh noes, not this discussion again. ::)
it's not a choice to be gay, hadron, although there is some choice as to behaviour, etc. and gay people went through fucking shit too, they're just at a later stage of the "education/understanding/acceptance" curve, as it were.
Gay people went through shit largely by their own choices, my (more or less former) stepbrother is prime example of that. It is very easy to hide, the camp behaviour on his part was definitely insecure attention seeking, which the gay rights movement provide a mechanism for. Hell yes I know you both are going to disagree with me on this one, but this view of mine has come of experience of certain peoples behaviour.
If anything, the pendulum has swung way too far in their favour. Effectively at our expense by them hogging the lime light. Thanks to lobbying, it is now more of a crime to beat someone up for being gay than disabled, despite the latter in most cases being well more vulnerable. Now why on earth (a) are they and (b) should they be further up the queue than us?
that's based on very little experience, hadron - you might want to read up on it a bit more.
and yes, there are gay people who are shits too. they're people.
First off, I acknowledge the Fact that sexual orientation is no more of a choice than (biological)gender or having AS. However, there are certain aspects of Gay culture and the way some gay guys behave that I find offensive and I am NOT talking about what they do in bed! Im talking about the way they interact with others. I Have ZERO patience and tolerence for passive-aggressive behaviour and other dishonest social games which regretably are very popular in *gay culture* :grrr:. I also resent the HELL out of how many gay men disown their manhood and expressive solidarity with Straight Women >:(. Furthermore, it really *cracks me up* how straight women just LUV (effete)gay men but are apprehensive and discomforted by Lesbians! :thumbdn: I have know gay men in person who did NOT fit the stereotype and I never made these kinds of remarks in front of them, around them, or to anyone who they knew. But what I saw on AFF made me FURIOUS with the Administrators for allowing that Bullshit! It also pisses me off how gay men and straight women these days seem to have a sense of entitlement. They think they should get to behave ANY old fucking way they want to cuz they're gay or female and if you criticize how they treat others they label you as a Biggot ::).
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Oh yes true. I have no objection to gay people in general, as long as they are relatively private about it. Its the narcisstic parading and whining that bothers me so much, and the effects it has on others. Stonewall and co are a big group in perpetuating this current nasty PC culture, which incidently gets used against aspies who are liable to speak their minds a little too much.
Bear in mind this is coming from the same guy who was perfectly cool when his stepsibling had his bf around for gay sex. The camp agenda is something totally different, and in most cases is fuelled by personal gain and generally being directly shitty to people. Its this and the activists that go with it that happen to be my bee in my bonett so to speak.
I agree on some of this. In the past I thought of joining AFF. I took a look at their board and saw how militant a lot of the people on there were. Some gay people are like this as well.
In being militant about their rights, they are doing to others what they don't want done to them. No wonder there are reactions to this, negative or otherwise.
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MIGHT I ADD: Homosexuality is Very easy to conceal whereas for many of us, our AS is blatantly Obvious. EVEN when we try to pass for normal. I really think that the analogy between Aspergers and (male)Homosexuality is a BAD one. Being an Aspie is more like being Black than being gay.Thats why the Aspie Movement should be modeled on the Black Power movement instead of the attention seeking gay pride movement.
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MIGHT I ADD: Homosexuality is Very easy to conceal whereas for many of us, our AS is blatantly Obvious. EVEN when we try to pass for normal.
:indeed:
I have tried for 31 years to pass for normal/not autistic and I still haven't got it right.
Thats why the Aspie Movement should be modeled on the Black Power movement instead of the attention seeking gay pride movement.
Why do we need a "movement"? How about educating and advocating? Doesn't need to be "in your face".
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MIGHT I ADD: Homosexuality is Very easy to conceal whereas for many of us, our AS is blatantly Obvious. EVEN when we try to pass for normal.
:indeed:
I have tried for 31 years to pass for normal/not autistic and I still haven't got it right.
Thats why the Aspie Movement should be modeled on the Black Power movement instead of the attention seeking gay pride movement.
Why do we need a "movement"? How about educating and advocating? Doesn't need to be "in your face".
We need a Movement to form an interest coalition because That is how you get things done! ;)
Without an interest coalition, NTs simply have no incentive to treat us fairly. People are naturally inclined to dislike and mistreat those they see as being different, UNLESS of course there is a social incentive not to do so. THAT is what gays and to some extent what blacks have managed to accomplish and the way they did it was to ORGANIZE into a group.
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it might - there are gay fooms too, you know.
:laugh:
(http://www.truechristian.com/img/gaymarriage2.jpg)
:rofl:
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MIGHT I ADD: Homosexuality is Very easy to conceal whereas for many of us, our AS is blatantly Obvious. EVEN when we try to pass for normal. I really think that the analogy between Aspergers and (male)Homosexuality is a BAD one. Being an Aspie is more like being Black than being gay.Thats why the Aspie Movement should be modeled on the Black Power movement instead of the attention seeking gay pride movement.
Be very careful here, remember numbers are not on our side at all. What we need to do is liaise with groups that would benefit from similar social change. A global disability rights movement wouild be very effective, but an aspie rights one is likely to blow up in our faces.
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http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/rnr/715122118.html :laugh:
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Bringing this thread back to life, I honestly would like to know WHY "Aspies" For Freedom shows such strong favoritism to gays; EVEN IF those gays are NeuroTypical. All I can think of that Amy Nelson is a total FAGhag and so she gives permission for homos like Max the bear to litter the site with his Bullshit and ignores the endless stream of complaints about his behaviour. I thought when I joined that is was an Aspie forum but its really turning out to be a Gay forum..... >:(
And homophobes such as yourself aren't allowed to spread their venom there? poor you. Want a manly hug?
I dont think you understand. Max the bear was regularly insulting and tauntin people with his passive-aggressive Bullshit so I complained to Amy the admin but she couldnt be bothered to do anything about it. Max then continued to provoke me and asked me sarcastically how it was going with my gf at the time whom I was clearly fed up with and I sprung a witty comeback on him that I would tell him about my lovelife when He told me about his lattest NAMBLA meetings :lol:.
He started with this bullshit when I started a thread ranting about Slutty straight women. So what Im saying is that he and his other gay buttbuds on AFF were allowed to litter their BullShit on AFF with impunity. I warned him in a PM that if he kept it up I would find him in Oakland and Wallop his Bitch_Ass and thats what got me banned. This issue isnt homosexuality, its that certain people on AFF were given priviledges to insult and harass other members and those people happened to be gay. So WTF else am I supposed to conclude?
What pisses me the FUCK off is how gay men have solidarity with straight women and think of themselves as de facto women when they are STILL MEN! >:(
Thats why that BITCH max started giving me shit, because he felt I had insulted straight women. St00pid fag............. :grrr:
:yawn:
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:brickwall:
This will not lead anywhere.
Not true!
I've heard that ALL drains lead to the ocean.
*flushes*
:laugh: :plus:
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Bringing this thread back to life, I honestly would like to know WHY "Aspies" For Freedom shows such strong favoritism to gays; EVEN IF those gays are NeuroTypical. All I can think of that Amy Nelson is a total FAGhag and so she gives permission for homos like Max the bear to litter the site with his Bullshit and ignores the endless stream of complaints about his behaviour. I thought when I joined that is was an Aspie forum but its really turning out to be a Gay forum..... >:(
And homophobes such as yourself aren't allowed to spread their venom there? poor you. Want a manly hug?
I dont think you understand. Max the bear was regularly insulting and tauntin people with his passive-aggressive Bullshit so I complained to Amy the admin but she couldnt be bothered to do anything about it. Max then continued to provoke me and asked me sarcastically how it was going with my gf at the time whom I was clearly fed up with and I sprung a witty comeback on him that I would tell him about my lovelife when He told me about his lattest NAMBLA meetings :lol:.
He started with this bullshit when I started a thread ranting about Slutty straight women. So what Im saying is that he and his other gay buttbuds on AFF were allowed to litter their BullShit on AFF with impunity. I warned him in a PM that if he kept it up I would find him in Oakland and Wallop his Bitch_Ass and thats what got me banned. This issue isnt homosexuality, its that certain people on AFF were given priviledges to insult and harass other members and those people happened to be gay. So WTF else am I supposed to conclude?
What pisses me the FUCK off is how gay men have solidarity with straight women and think of themselves as de facto women when they are STILL MEN! >:(
Thats why that BITCH max started giving me shit, because he felt I had insulted straight women. St00pid fag............. :grrr:
:yawn:
OMFG! :zoinks:
I didnt realize you guys were "buddies" :laugh:
I presume you're the *Top* no? Max's too small to get into anyone except a chihuahuah but his Asshole is pretty big :green:.
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It's amusing that you think you can insult me by comparing me to someone I don't know.
You should think about getting out of that closet.
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http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/rnr/715122118.html :laugh:
Interesting, but, not the first shemaleI'v seen from my days exploring the porn world. :angel: :laugh:
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It's amusing that you think you can insult me by comparing me to someone I don't know.
You should think about getting out of that closet.
Im amazed that you of all people are so sensitive about that subject. Besides, twas a comeback for trying to disregard what I said with a *yawn*. :green:
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Who the fuck here is sensitive?
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Who the fuck here is sensitive?
Not I :laugh:
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Who the fuck here is sensitive?
More than you know or more than those that care to admit! ;)
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If AFF is militant about anything, its actually far more militantly pro-Gay and anti-abortion than militantly aspie. I say this given the blatant lack of Aspie solidarity compared to gay solidarity. Max called me a biggot for sharply criticizing promiscuous straight women despite the fact that since he's gay it has Nothing to do with him at all :grrr:. Then his onsite boyfriend kylo4(and allleged Aspie)sided with Max against ME simply cuz kylo4 is also gay. The total LACK of Aspie solidarity makes any Aspie movement pretty much USELESS. You see my point? Gays are going to side with other gays AND with straight women against straight men. Why should aspies do the same?!?!?!?!?!
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Get out of that closet already. ::)
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Get out of that closet already. ::)
:eyebrows:
I already DID: http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,9456.msg406893.html#new
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Wrong closet. ::)
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Wrong closet. ::)
:orly:
So which one is the *right* closet to "come out" of eH?
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The one you're actually in.
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The one you're actually in.
:yawn:
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Comfy place, then? :zoinks:
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Comfy place, then? :zoinks:
Oh *sure* :green:
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MIGHT I ADD: Homosexuality is Very easy to conceal whereas for many of us, our AS is blatantly Obvious. EVEN when we try to pass for normal.
:indeed:
I have tried for 31 years to pass for normal/not autistic and I still haven't got it right.
Thats why the Aspie Movement should be modeled on the Black Power movement instead of the attention seeking gay pride movement.
Why do we need a "movement"? How about educating and advocating? Doesn't need to be "in your face".
We need a Movement to form an interest coalition because That is how you get things done! ;)
Without an interest coalition, NTs simply have no incentive to treat us fairly. People are naturally inclined to dislike and mistreat those they see as being different, UNLESS of course there is a social incentive not to do so. THAT is what gays and to some extent what blacks have managed to accomplish and the way they did it was to ORGANIZE into a group.
And that is the Crux of the problem - actually organising into an advocacy group. It's been my experience that aspie forums are very subject to regular misunderstandings and infighting and so it would be very tricky to organise into an effective lobby group.
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seconded, judging from previous attempts. herding cats = FAIL :zombiefuck:
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Thirded. There's no way it can be made to work. Sorry.
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MIGHT I ADD: Homosexuality is Very easy to conceal whereas for many of us, our AS is blatantly Obvious. EVEN when we try to pass for normal.
:indeed:
I have tried for 31 years to pass for normal/not autistic and I still haven't got it right.
Thats why the Aspie Movement should be modeled on the Black Power movement instead of the attention seeking gay pride movement.
Why do we need a "movement"? How about educating and advocating? Doesn't need to be "in your face".
We need a Movement to form an interest coalition because That is how you get things done! ;)
Without an interest coalition, NTs simply have no incentive to treat us fairly. People are naturally inclined to dislike and mistreat those they see as being different, UNLESS of course there is a social incentive not to do so. THAT is what gays and to some extent what blacks have managed to accomplish and the way they did it was to ORGANIZE into a group.
And that is the Crux of the problem - actually organising into an advocacy group. It's been my experience that aspie forums are very subject to regular misunderstandings and infighting and so it would be very tricky to organise into an effective lobby group.
An IRL group could be effective. Best of all there are big organisations that exist, the challenge is to turn them into groups actually for people on the spectrum, as opposed a parents group.
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Has anyone seen a successful political movement get going? What did they have that we don't?
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Has anyone seen a successful political movement get going? What did they have that we don't?
Committed people who know what they are doing and actually work together.
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Where does the commitment come from?
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From being committed? Some people around here need to be committed. :laugh:
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Where does the commitment come from?
Common cause and real conviction. The only conviction people in the Autism rights stuff at present is directed at inflating ones ego, often at expense of each others.
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From being committed? Some people around here need to be committed. :laugh:
Thats exactly the problem, most of the people involved are far from level headed.
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Where does the commitment come from?
Common cause and real conviction. The only conviction people in the Autism rights stuff at present is directed at inflating ones ego, often at expense of each others.
The expense is not even noticed, but I have to admit, we agree in principle again, kiddo.
:plus:
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The place has sure gotten interesting there. There is a member there who throws fits and I picture her as a six year old by the way she acts. She was on WP as Princess_1989 but was banned for making sockpuppets and flaming members. She took her life to AFF and posts as NewMissZealand (I think that's correct).
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Where does the commitment come from?
Common cause and real conviction. The only conviction people in the Autism rights stuff at present is directed at inflating ones ego, often at expense of each others.
True, but inevitable, for the most part.
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Where does the commitment come from?
Common cause and real conviction. The only conviction people in the Autism rights stuff at present is directed at inflating ones ego, often at expense of each others.
True, but inevitable, for the most part.
Do any of you watch the blogosphere and autistics.org? Have you followed Michelle Dawson's case in Canada?
They seem to be a lot more productive over there than I've seen among the forum communities. Both the forums and the blogosphere are groups of autistics, both range across the spectrum in functioning levels. They ought to have similar causes and levels of conviction, but they don't.
I'm interested in why.
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My blog is part of the Autism Hub. Boy are there ever some arguments on there!
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Hm, now I'm wondering if I'm just thinking the grass is greener on the other side.
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I think that some people are all too ready for an argument at any time. Arguing for the sake of arguing which doesn't make sense if you want to get things done.
I am on the Autism Hub mailing list as well but I am thinking of unlinking myself because of all the attacking and arguing on it. A woman's point of view was attacked and they never actually told her they disagreed, just squabbled about it amongst themselves.
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I think that some people are all too ready for an argument at any time. Arguing for the sake of arguing which doesn't make sense if you want to get things done.
thank fuck we haven't got anyone like that on here.
er...
I am on the Autism Hub mailing list as well but I am thinking of unlinking myself because of all the attacking and arguing on it. A woman's point of view was attacked and they never actually told her they disagreed, just squabbled about it amongst themselves.
ditto?
:laugh:
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Where does the commitment come from?
Common cause and real conviction. The only conviction people in the Autism rights stuff at present is directed at inflating ones ego, often at expense of each others.
True, but inevitable, for the most part.
Do any of you watch the blogosphere and autistics.org? Have you followed Michelle Dawson's case in Canada?
They seem to be a lot more productive over there than I've seen among the forum communities. Both the forums and the blogosphere are groups of autistics, both range across the spectrum in functioning levels. They ought to have similar causes and levels of conviction, but they don't.
I'm interested in why.
Medium counts so much less than whom. Michelle Dawson has been in quite a lot of national and international media. Therefore she has some sort of percieved legitimacy. Personally I really dont think she is massively effective, just more effective than some others.
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Where does the commitment come from?
Common cause and real conviction. The only conviction people in the Autism rights stuff at present is directed at inflating ones ego, often at expense of each others.
The expense is not even noticed, but I have to admit, we agree in principle again, kiddo.
:plus:
:)
Interesting you mention expense. For a small group of committed people its not a problem per se, campaigning can be done in a surprisingly cheap manner. It costs very little to set up a stall in the street, or to print leaflets. Say if each member donated £100 to the cause they could do an awful lot. For a committed person it would not be that much money, if they truely believed in the cause.
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I think that some people are all too ready for an argument at any time. Arguing for the sake of arguing which doesn't make sense if you want to get things done.
thank fuck we haven't got anyone like that on here.
er...
I am on the Autism Hub mailing list as well but I am thinking of unlinking myself because of all the attacking and arguing on it. A woman's point of view was attacked and they never actually told her they disagreed, just squabbled about it amongst themselves.
ditto?
:laugh:
Sorry, I don't understand. :-\
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I registered to be with Jessica, but I only went like two times I think. It makes feel lonely, because there isn't 50 people talking at once :laugh:
Maybe no one is there. I am rather stimulating person, I bet I could get them moving.
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Go on Randy! AFF needs you. Get into them Randy! :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing:
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:LMAO:
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I think that some people are all too ready for an argument at any time. Arguing for the sake of arguing which doesn't make sense if you want to get things done.
I'll have you know I do not. I completely disagree with you!!! If you want to take it up with me you can always call me out :lol: ;)
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Go on Randy! AFF needs you. Get into them Randy! :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing:
Probably >:D They can be my naive friends :evillaugh: Only teasing.
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I keep going back to my fave quote from Bill Hicks: "You are free to do as we tell you! You are free to do as we tell you!"
Bill also tried to start a like-minded group of individuals once. Here's his version of what happened:
"There is a new party being born: the People Who Hate People Party. People who hate people: come together! 'No!' We're kinda having trouble getting off the boards, but, you know...
'Are you gonna be there?'
'Yeah.'
'Then I ain't fucking coming.'
'You're our strongest member.'
'Fuck you!'
'That's what I'm talking about, you asshole!'
'Fuck you!'
Damn, we almost had our meeting going. It's so hard to get my people together."
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Go on Randy! AFF needs you. Get into them Randy! :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing: :asthing:
AFF just isn't the same without its grumpy barman and grumpy's bar. It could do with some livening up, that's for sure. :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
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So many message boards, so little time.
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Whatcha hoping to learn Gareth?
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i've looked at aff in the past, but it's just too pc and militant. there's more to life than autism......
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I regigstered at AFF recently, and unlike othe forums I've been at, I hardly recognize any names there.
Is there anyone else well known registered there ??
Not sure about any of that, but I think you and I should have another couple of beers some day.
:2thumbsup:
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I regigstered at AFF recently, and unlike othe forums I've been at, I hardly recognize any names there.
Is there anyone else well known registered there ??
Not sure about any of that, but I think you and I should have another couple of beers some day.
:2thumbsup:
eric just loves to meet up IRL.
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Leprechauns... lots of Swedish Leprechauns
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No such thing.
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These were the good old days. When the online autism community was fire.
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Yeah what happened to folks?
They aren't taking us out one by one are they? :tinfoil:
When I reflect on my own situation, I had hope of making something of myself and affecting some small positive change in the world.
It didn't work out though. The world sucks.
(society sucks. the earth is amazing.)
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No such thing.
Damn it Odeon!
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Not my fault. Yawn.
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Even if they were taking us out... it wouldn't be until OXMC dances his way to the White House.
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I mean, whatever happened to Autism Squeaks? Their shenanigans at least kept the ASD forums somewhat riled up with activity.
Now I never hear about them, but then again I've been under a rock.
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I mean, whatever happened to Autism Squeaks? Their shenanigans at least kept the ASD forums somewhat riled up with activity.
Now I never hear about them, but then again I've been under a rock.
Autism Squeaks is trying to do damage control, and those who call them out on their bullshit on Facebook get automated AI responses instead of genuine human interaction. I know because I was one of those who was calling them out on their crap.
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I mean, whatever happened to Autism Squeaks? Their shenanigans at least kept the ASD forums somewhat riled up with activity.
Now I never hear about them, but then again I've been under a rock.
Autism Squeaks is trying to do damage control, and those who call them out on their bullshit on Facebook get automated AI responses instead of genuine human interaction. I know because I was one of those who was calling them out on their crap.
I see...they're robots now.
I remember my own attempt at activism in Second Life many years ago. I mean, while we're on the topic of AFF, Gareth was involved in this.
Lets just say that he went on his own escapade one day, and certainly didn't care on whose face the egg landed.
I also learned that people like to grab at any opportunity to mindlessly virtue signal to make themselves look good, and just pick whatever fresh charity of the day to do so.
People took offense to our activism against Autism Squeaks, despite them having NO knowledge of the charity they were supporting or the polarization Autism Squeaks caused.
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Honestly, I don't think anyone cares.
I don't. I read these but I don't care.
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I mean, whatever happened to Autism Squeaks? Their shenanigans at least kept the ASD forums somewhat riled up with activity.
Now I never hear about them, but then again I've been under a rock.
Autism Squeaks is trying to do damage control, and those who call them out on their bullshit on Facebook get automated AI responses instead of genuine human interaction. I know because I was one of those who was calling them out on their crap.
I see...they're robots now.
I remember my own attempt at activism in Second Life many years ago. I mean, while we're on the topic of AFF, Gareth was involved in this.
Lets just say that he went on his own escapade one day, and certainly didn't care on whose face the egg landed.
I also learned that people like to grab at any opportunity to mindlessly virtue signal to make themselves look good, and just pick whatever fresh charity of the day to do so.
People took offense to our activism against Autism Squeaks, despite them having NO knowledge of the charity they were supporting or the polarization Autism Squeaks caused.
This old bat who reminded me of my Cousin's ex-wife was badgering me about "Why laugh at a charity for people with Autism!?!?!?!"
Because I'm autistic myself you self-righteous condescending twit!