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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Bastet on May 22, 2015, 05:36:06 PM

Title: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Bastet on May 22, 2015, 05:36:06 PM
They are doing this by assimilating them not unlike the way Native Americans were assimilated in the US. The Torah is 2000 years old and Zionism has been around for a little over 100 years. They are destroying a culture. This video explains why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3SJYRkI2hM
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existance
Post by: Jack on May 22, 2015, 07:04:45 PM
It's interesting how it's considered okay for some people to segregate themselves, and not others. People like the native americans and amish are allowed to do that. Jack just wants a happy joy-joy world where everyone mingles together, but knowing that's probably at the expense of the wishes of some others.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existance
Post by: Bastet on May 22, 2015, 07:15:19 PM
segregate? Native Americans? They had their land taken. They still have their children taken from them and adopted out.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/morgue2/1996/07/08/66546-native-american-adoptees-deal-with-loss/



Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existance
Post by: Jack on May 22, 2015, 07:24:12 PM
Agreed, native americans are a twisted topic, tragic and probably always will be as their continued existence is only based in signing a deal of perpetual dependence with the devil of sorts. They certainly aren't integrated either, and society in general doesn't see anything wrong with them wanting to be isolated to their own people. That was really more the point. It's okay for some people to want to only be around their own race and culture without it being viewed as harmful to society as a whole, while other's can't have that point of view without it being considered as hate inspired.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existance
Post by: Parts on May 22, 2015, 09:08:29 PM
There are as many Jews in the US if not more than in Israel so I don't think they will wipe it out, I just think the ones there will come here.  I agree with Jack on the groups that hold themselves apart and the hypocrisy of who can and can't
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existance
Post by: RageBeoulve on May 23, 2015, 10:51:52 AM
It's interesting how it's considered okay for some people to segregate themselves, and not others. People like the native americans and amish are allowed to do that. Jack just wants a happy joy-joy world where everyone mingles together, but knowing that's probably at the expense of the wishes of some others.

Multiculturalism is great for some, and no so great for others. Some pockets of individuals wish to preserve traditions, and some entire cultures are pretty much geared that way. It doesn't seem fair to move in and modify their beliefs and identities forcefully in order to "spread" another belief and identity.

Multiculturalism is pretty sweet when people agree with it, but diversity is something to be respected. In order to co-exist in this world, I think people are going to have to understand that not everyone is going to agree with them.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Jack on May 23, 2015, 11:42:59 AM
Agreed. It also brings to question what is a forceful intrusion? Is it simply intrusion by the force of forceful force, or can it also be situations where people are intruded without any forceful force other than the fact of not being allowed to say anything about it? The UK once had very strict standards preventing immigration, and now some see an intrusion of their culture which is forced on them by the allowance of their own government while others see no issue at all. In the US when people form pockets, some can be considered respectable pockets, while others are viewed as harmful, immigration seen as a harmful force while also seen positive to the diversity. The US is called a melting pot, prefer to think of it as a soup where all the wonderful bits float around together, intact with their own unique qualities and flavor. However, will completely agree there a level of consideration needed for all diversity, maybe people who need that isolation should be allowed to have it, and there are some places I simply don't belong.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existance
Post by: Bastet on May 23, 2015, 12:11:13 PM
There are as many Jews in the US if not more than in Israel so I don't think they will wipe it out, I just think the ones there will come here.  I agree with Jack on the groups that hold themselves apart and the hypocrisy of who can and can't

Their voices are not heard in the U.S. The media is dominated by Zionist propaganda.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existance
Post by: Jack on May 23, 2015, 12:19:30 PM
There are as many Jews in the US if not more than in Israel so I don't think they will wipe it out, I just think the ones there will come here.  I agree with Jack on the groups that hold themselves apart and the hypocrisy of who can and can't

Their voices are not heard in the U.S. The media is dominated by Zionist propaganda.
The US is a highly problematic circumstance for allowing diversity in the form of self-segregation. While the understanding that other people need something I don't brings a level of personal acceptance for it, at the same time view this nation as an unfit context for any such thing.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Bastet on May 23, 2015, 12:21:24 PM
Social Justice is just code for racism. They are all liars and hypocrites to suggest otherwise.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: RageBeoulve on May 23, 2015, 01:20:21 PM
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Is it simply intrusion by the force of forceful force, or can it also be situations where people are intruded without any forceful force other than the fact of not being allowed to say anything about it?

Force doesn't necessarily have to be physical, or direct confrontation. It can also be subtle. One can "intrude" by way of clever rhetoric and trickery.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Bastet on May 23, 2015, 01:36:47 PM
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Is it simply intrusion by the force of forceful force, or can it also be situations where people are intruded without any forceful force other than the fact of not being allowed to say anything about it?

Force doesn't necessarily have to be physical, or direct confrontation. It can also be subtle. One can "intrude" by way of clever rhetoric and trickery.

This is how Zionists and Social Justice Warriors works best. They know how to be victims and how to smear their enemies. Just like with Gamergate. And there was so much evidence proving their planning it all the emails the think tanks but the idealogues still believe the lies they are being fed. Because text on a screen is far more harmful than being brutally raped.  :wanker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z85GQF9--s


Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Bastet on May 23, 2015, 03:34:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=12cfVKQyrMw
Why are Jews protesting by the hundreds of thousands on Rothschild Boulevard in upscale Tel Aviv?

Why are Jews burning the flag of Israel. Why don't we see this on television?

Because the media monopolies want you to equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism! The protests are causing a problem for the mainstream propagandists. That's why they don't show them.

The media monopolies falsely reported to the world that Iran's President Ahmadinejad “threatened to wipe Israel off the map".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=R-r04SQ97_Q
This was a gross mistranslation of a speech by the Iranian President who was commenting on the the illegal occupation of Palestine by Israel. He claims that Israel is occupying Palestine" illegitimately" and that Israel should not be considered a country on the world map.

Traditional Torah Jews agree with him. Find out why!
ISRAEL WAS NOT ISRAEL UNTIL 1945

Before the second world war, Israel did not exist. From 70 AD to 1945, the land was called Palestine and it was the homeland of the Palestinian Muslims. Jews were a tiny minority.

The World War II Holocaust led to the genocide and wholesale theft of the nation of Palestine by the Rothschild-led Zionists who renamed the land " Israel" in 1945.  The Rothschild-led Zionists used the Holocaust and the NAZI movement to transfer thousands of European Jews into Palestine. History books are silent about the role the Zionists played in financing of the NAZI party and engineering the second world war.

TRADITIONAL JEWS ARE NOT Zionists

Many Jewish groups teach that Judaism does not support the "forced" creation of a Jewish State of Israel and that true adherents of the Torah must wait for the coming of the Messiah before peacefully returning to their Holy Land.

Here are some of their sites:

NKUSA.org     (Neturei Karta)
JewsAgainstZionism.com
JewsNotZionists.org
IsraelVersusJudaism.org

Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news465_frank.html

ZIONISM PROMOTES ANTI-SEMITISM

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, recognized that anti-Semitism would further his cause in creating a separate state for Jews. “We must, above all, make it an international political issue.” In his “Diaries”, page 19, Herzl stated “Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies.”

To maintain a Jewish majority in the state of "Israel", its leaders promote anti-Semitism throughout the world to "encourage" Jews to leave their homelands and seek "refuge". Anti-Semitic acts are on the rise across Europe and beyond.

As a custom in many Anti Zionist community's world wide, the Israeli flag is being burned on the Jewish holiday of Purim to protest the actions and existence of the Zionists Of Israel. Israeli Zionist beliefs are contrary to traditional Jewish teaching and beliefs. Protests are a demonstration of opposition to the philosophy of Zionism and the State of Israel. Followers of the true Jewish faith believe a sectarian Jewish state is blasphemous and detrimental to the coming of the Jewish Messiah.

God bless and save all the soldiers who've been hoodwinked - Jews, Muslims and Christians. Their inability to see the truth is not their fault and their intentions are honorable.

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news465_frank.html
http://helpfreetheearth.com/news499_jews.html
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Jack on May 23, 2015, 03:51:58 PM
The word filter is still changing the word Zionist to ancient alien, DFG.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Jack on May 23, 2015, 04:55:12 PM
Many Jewish groups teach that Judaism does not support the "forced" creation of a Jewish State of Israel and that true adherents of the Torah must wait for the coming of the Messiah before peacefully returning to their Holy Land.
This is clearly the crux of the issue, a political ideology vs. a religious ideology, and it's a good point to make that Zionists probably can't really be Jews if the Jewish faith teaches that the Jewish people simply cannot have their own state until their messiah arrives. They are a people to have no country of their own and be faithful to whatever country they live in, so the problem there is they are in a situation of being faithful to a nation which has leaders who claim to be those very nationless peoples. It's seems an unsolvable problem. So thinking Parts made a very good point that they just might just simply leave.

The word filter is still changing the word Zionist to ancient alien, DFG.
Are you going to fix it? Cant stand the filters.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Bastet on May 23, 2015, 05:24:40 PM
The word filter is still changing the word Zionist to ancient alien, DFG.

its starting to get on my nerves.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: RageBeoulve on May 23, 2015, 05:28:46 PM
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This is clearly the crux of the issue, a political ideology vs. a religious ideology,

To clarify, the problem actually seems to be that the political ideology thinks it appropriate to erase the religious ideology. These assholes think everything and anything is fair game when it comes to achieving their goals. They'd just as soon erase all culture and tradition, which I find disgusting and awful.

There is nothing wrong with them wanting to have a state and a culture of their own making, but the fact that they have their hand in every cookie jar and bully anyone they can possibly manage to makes it impossible for me to respect their wishes. I say give the state to orthodox jews if they want it, and throw Netanyahu's administration in gitmo. They're just a bunch of murderers, and a lot of people (especially jews!) are getting sick and tired of them.

Of course, a fair bit of work needs to be done about my own country's leadership before it even thinks about playing a part in righting any wrongs concerning Israel's behavior. Israeli politicians abound with dual citizenship crawl through my country's politics like termites.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Jack on May 23, 2015, 05:37:14 PM
I say give the state to orthodox jews if they want it,
But that's the thing; they don't want it and believe it's not for them to have. The political conflict is still solely based in one religion and the foundation of conflict is about what that faith truly means. That's why it seem there's no solution. DFG said they would have no voice here, but more than a voice, it seems what they want is freedom of religion and that's something the US actually offers.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Jack on May 23, 2015, 05:39:54 PM
The word filter is still changing the word Zionist to ancient alien, DFG.

its starting to get on my nerves.
It's good to see you and Rage back here posting. Normally wouldn't have any input at all in this topic, as religious conflict, and especially religious conflict of other lands is something don't really have any place saying what is the correct answer. This is also one with no correct answer that I see, but I post for you today because you are inspired to post here today. :laugh:
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: RageBeoulve on May 23, 2015, 06:12:03 PM
I say give the state to orthodox jews if they want it,
But that's the thing; they don't want it and believe it's not for them to have. The political conflict is still solely based in one religion and the foundation of conflict is about what that faith truly means. That's why it seem there's no solution. DFG said they would have no voice here, but more than a voice, it seems what they want is freedom of religion and that's something the US actually offers.

Yeah, I think they should all come over here too, while that freedom still exists. Maybe their voting would help, and they're fresh out of being marginalized so they remember what its like living inside a tyrannical piece of crap like Israel. Maybe more orthodox jews with those experiences under their belt is exactly what my country needs right now.

Also:

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But that's the thing; they don't want it and believe it's not for them to have.

I know, but I'd make the offer anyway if it was up to me.  :)
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: RageBeoulve on May 23, 2015, 06:15:32 PM
The word filter is still changing the word Zionist to ancient alien, DFG.

its starting to get on my nerves.
It's good to see you and Rage back here posting. Normally wouldn't have any input at all in this topic, as religious conflict, and especially religious conflict of other lands is something don't really have any place saying what is the correct answer. This is also one with no correct answer that I see, but I post for you today because you are inspired to post here today. :laugh:

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Normally wouldn't have any input at all in this topic, as religious conflict, and especially religious conflict of other lands is something don't really have any place saying what is the correct answer.

Thats another thing I like about Torah Jews. They've been living alongside Christians and Muslims both happily for a very long time with no problems at all. Talmudic jews in Israel on the other hand spit on both Christians and Muslims in the street. The difference between them is plainly seen.



Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Jack on May 25, 2015, 09:58:20 AM
I know, but I'd make the offer anyway if it was up to me.  :)
Was thinking about this. If it were up to you to offer it to them freely, then that might make you their messiah. That seems like a lot of responsibility. :laugh:
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: RageBeoulve on May 25, 2015, 08:51:02 PM
I know, but I'd make the offer anyway if it was up to me.  :)
Was thinking about this. If it were up to you to offer it to them freely, then that might make you their messiah. That seems like a lot of responsibility. :laugh:

That's fine, because I understand that such a responsibility means service to one's people. Not the other way around.  ;)
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 30, 2015, 04:24:58 AM
The word filter is still changing the word Zionist to ancient alien, DFG.

It's a ruddy pain in the arse  >:(
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Gopher Gary on May 30, 2015, 12:59:43 PM
The word filter is still changing the word Zionist to ancient alien, DFG.

It's a ruddy pain in the arse  >:(

Like a ancient alien anal probe.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Arya Quinn on May 31, 2015, 04:41:11 AM
It was only really put in place because Scrappy Doo can't argue.  :autism:
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: 'andersom' on May 31, 2015, 06:42:09 AM
Scrap is MIA.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: 'andersom' on May 31, 2015, 06:42:44 AM
Or AWOL. In that case he needs punishment.  :squiddy:
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Jack on May 31, 2015, 06:59:11 AM
It was only really put in place because Scrappy Doo can't argue.  :autism:
Was thinking that was for benjiman.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: 'andersom' on May 31, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
It was only really put in place because Scrappy Doo can't argue.  :autism:
Was thinking that was for benjiman.

Think you are right.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: odeon on May 31, 2015, 01:41:17 PM
It was only really put in place because Scrappy Doo can't argue.  :autism:
Was thinking that was for benjiman.

Yup, it was Benji. I still think it's funny. :P
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Gopher Gary on May 31, 2015, 05:52:06 PM
Is it really that funny when he's not even here?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: odeon on May 31, 2015, 05:54:33 PM
Yes, considering how misused the word is.
Title: Re: Zionazis in Israel trying to erase Orthodox Jews from existence
Post by: Gopher Gary on May 31, 2015, 05:56:39 PM
How is it being misused?  :orly: