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Title: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Semicolon on February 17, 2015, 09:03:27 AM
Australian court rules against chainsaw drink-driver

An Australian learner driver who stitched his own chainsaw wound and drank gin for the pain before driving to hospital has lost a Supreme Court appeal against a drink-driving charge.

Quote from: BBC
Timothy Withrow, from Port Willunga near Adelaide, had a blood alcohol reading three times the legal limit.

He was challenging an earlier ruling by a lower court that refused to consider the matter "trifling".

By law traffic offences deemed trifling can result in a lighter punishment.

Withrow sustained a gaping wound to his hand while using a chainsaw at his residence in February last year.

He phoned two emergency departments, but was told that they were very busy and would not be able to treat him for more than 10 hours.

Withrow then used a large sewing needle and some fishing line to sew up the wound and washed it with gin to prevent infection. He also drank gin to help with the pain.

He later decided to drive to the hospital for treatment after not being able to contact his wife. He said he could not afford an ambulance.

He was pulled over by police after failing to stop at a sign, and charged with several driving offences as well as being issued an immediate licence disqualification. Though he had previously held a driving licence in the US he did not have a full Australian licence.

In court he had pleaded guilty but before sentencing asked for the matter to be dealt with as trifling.

But Justice Kevin Nicholson agreed with the earlier ruling that Withrow had had options other than driving himself, including calling an ambulance or taxi, or approaching a neighbour for help.

"He posed a clear danger not only to himself but to other road users," Justice Nicholson said, according to local media.

"I admire [his] courage and his tolerance to pain but I do not admire his judgment."

Withrow will be sentenced by a magistrate at a later date.

Source (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-31501927)
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Parts on February 17, 2015, 10:38:34 AM
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He phoned two emergency departments, but was told that they were very busy and would not be able to treat him for more than 10 hours.
:zombiefuck:

Busy with what?   Chainsaw wounds are very dangerous and don't generally clean up that well even with going to the hospital

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He said he could not afford an ambulance.

Doesn't Australia insurance cover any of the ambulance fees?  If this was in the US everyone would be screaming about how these things happen here because we don't have universal healthcare.   

As to the penalty I would think he could try and make the case for a kinda temporary insanity due to the pain and injury unless he had a history of driving drunk,  for a reduced sentence
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Semicolon on February 17, 2015, 10:47:02 AM
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He phoned two emergency departments, but was told that they were very busy and would not be able to treat him for more than 10 hours.
:zombiefuck:

Busy with what?   Chainsaw wounds are very dangerous and don't generally clean up that well even with going to the hospital

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He said he could not afford an ambulance.

Doesn't Australia insurance cover any of the ambulance fees?  If this was in the US everyone would be screaming about how these things happen here because we don't have universal healthcare.   

As to the penalty I would think he could try and make the case for a kinda temporary insanity due to the pain and injury unless he had a history of driving drunk,  for a reduced sentence

This is why people wear chainsaw gloves. :aff:
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Icequeen on February 17, 2015, 10:48:35 AM
I vote on temporary insanity due to the pain. :thumbup:

Good grief, I can't even imagine how much that hurt. 
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Parts on February 17, 2015, 10:51:37 AM
And kevlar chaps, I know a guy who just missed his femoral artery 
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Jack on February 18, 2015, 09:00:42 PM
If this was in the US
Have never heard of an ambulatory call being too busy.
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Graelwyn on February 18, 2015, 09:02:47 PM
Just the thought of being anywhere near a chainsaw makes me feel a bit queasy.
Feel sorry for the poor sod, driving under those conditions.
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Jack on February 18, 2015, 09:05:38 PM
Just the thought of being anywhere near a chainsaw makes me feel a bit queasy.
Feel sorry for the poor sod, driving under those conditions.
What's even more odd than the ambulance bit, is the police officer gave him a sobriety test instead of helping him to a hospital.
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Graelwyn on February 18, 2015, 09:41:32 PM
Just the thought of being anywhere near a chainsaw makes me feel a bit queasy.
Feel sorry for the poor sod, driving under those conditions.
What's even more odd than the ambulance bit, is the police officer gave him a sobriety test instead of helping him to a hospital.

Yes, that is somewhat ridiculous... have to wonder at people sometimes.  :apondering:
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on February 18, 2015, 11:28:14 PM
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He said he could not afford an ambulance.

Doesn't Australia insurance cover any of the ambulance fees?  If this was in the US everyone would be screaming about how these things happen here because we don't have universal healthcare.   

Universal health care in Australia doesn't cover ambulances. Or teeth. You need private insurance or deep pockets for those.
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Arya Quinn on February 19, 2015, 06:42:06 AM
Just the thought of being anywhere near a chainsaw makes me feel a bit queasy.
Feel sorry for the poor sod, driving under those conditions.
What's even more odd than the ambulance bit, is the police officer gave him a sobriety test instead of helping him to a hospital.

I can just imagine how that went down. That police officer sounds like a right tosser.  :grrr:
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Jack on February 19, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
Just the thought of being anywhere near a chainsaw makes me feel a bit queasy.
Feel sorry for the poor sod, driving under those conditions.
What's even more odd than the ambulance bit, is the police officer gave him a sobriety test instead of helping him to a hospital.

I can just imagine how that went down. That police officer sounds like a right tosser.  :grrr:
Indeed.
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Charlotte Quin on February 20, 2015, 04:26:19 AM
An ambulance costs about $120 a ride unless you pay private insurance (the cheapest policy being one for ambulance only, about $40 per year)
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 20, 2015, 11:53:46 AM
An ambulance costs about $120 a ride unless you pay private insurance (the cheapest policy being one for ambulance only, about $40 per year)

That's cheap. My dad got a ride in an ambulance from one side of town to the other and the bill was about $2,000.   :o
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Jack on February 20, 2015, 02:45:43 PM
An ambulance costs about $120 a ride unless you pay private insurance (the cheapest policy being one for ambulance only, about $40 per year)

That's cheap. My dad got a ride in an ambulance from one side of town to the other and the bill was about $2,000.   :o
That's probably not the typical standard.
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Parts on February 20, 2015, 03:17:23 PM
An ambulance costs about $120 a ride unless you pay private insurance (the cheapest policy being one for ambulance only, about $40 per year)

That's cheap. My dad got a ride in an ambulance from one side of town to the other and the bill was about $2,000.   :o

My sister in law was taken by helicopter from a small hospital in the Catskills over the mountains to Albany I am unsure how much it cost but I know it was substantial,  they had crappy insurance but it did cover most of it.  I have never rode in an ambulance though once in first grade I was taken to the hospital in a cop car after having some sort of seizure and falling down a flight of stairs at school because there were no ambulances available 
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: 'andersom' on February 20, 2015, 07:58:18 PM
A ride in an ambulance is surprisingly comfortable and really really smooth. $120 is an absolute bargain for a quality ride like that.
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 20, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
A ride in an ambulance is surprisingly comfortable and really really smooth. $120 is an absolute bargain for a quality ride like that.

So the next time you're in the land of Oz, instead of calling for a cab, you can just call for an ambulance!!   :autism:
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: Jack on February 20, 2015, 09:22:11 PM
A ride in an ambulance is surprisingly comfortable and really really smooth. $120 is an absolute bargain for a quality ride like that.

So the next time you're in the land of Oz, instead of calling for a cab, you can just call for an ambulance!!   :autism:
Actually calling a cab instead of waiting ten hours for an ambulance is an excellent solution.
Title: Re: Drunk driver convicted after stitching his own chainsaw-wounded hand and driving
Post by: renaeden on February 21, 2015, 08:12:59 AM
I have been in an ambulance before. It didn't cost me anything because I have private health insurance which costs me about $20 per fortnight.