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Title: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on February 10, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
This guy saw it all comming.

Interview with author/futurist Arthur C. Clarke, from an AT&T-MIT Conference, 1976 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1vQ_cB0f4w#)
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Graelwyn on February 10, 2015, 08:20:57 PM
I shall watch that when my eyes are open fully, lol.
2.20am here and bad cold is making me too fuzzy to do much requiring any brain activity.
I used to read Arthur C Clarke in my teenage years, when sci-fi books were my interest.
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Walkie on February 10, 2015, 09:05:59 PM
yep. He put a lot of this into his fiction too, and in 2001:a Space Odyssey (which he co-wrote with Stanley Kubrick) .
Having been young  back then, I got fed up of waiting for it all to happen, and started to think  that i would die iof old age, or we'd blow each up first. So I was actually pretty damn surprised when personal computers finally took off.

 As the title of the film shows, he expected it all to happen rather sooner  than it actually did.  We're still waiting for a computer like HAL, and for passenger  flights to the Moon.
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Graelwyn on February 10, 2015, 09:32:05 PM
yep. He put a lot of this into his fiction too, and in 2001:a Space Odyssey (which he co-wrote with Stanley Kubrick) .
Having been young  back then, I got fed up of waiting for it all to happen, and started to think  that i would die iof old age, or we'd blow each up first. So I was actually pretty damn surprised when personal computers finally took off.

 As the title of the film shows, he expected it all to happen rather sooner  than it actually did.  We're still waiting for a computer like HAL, and for passenger  flights to the Moon.

I have always loved 2001:A Space Odyssey. I sort of an interest in AI, but I doubt there will ever come a time when there is anything akin to HAL or that boy in AI, or Data from ST:TNG. Many people find the concept quite creepy, but it fascinates me.
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: odeon on February 11, 2015, 12:09:02 AM
2001 is awesome, one of my all-time favourites.

I think it could all have happened by now if the US hadn't decided to shrink NASA's budget and refocus what remains every few years. The technology to establish a moon base is there, and there is an orbiting space station, but the focus has been elsewhere.

And there is Virgin Galactic, that will bring spaceflight to the masses at some point.

Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Walkie on February 11, 2015, 12:46:17 AM
yeah, 2001 was one seriously aspie sort of film :)

I think Ray Bradbury was really prophetic, too, in Fahrenheit 451. We don't have fireproof houses and book-burning, (not exactly) but the rest of it was spot-on, the way he saw the media developing into something that engulfed peoples' lives and detached and distracted them from the serious issues:wall-to-wall interactive TV with utterly dumb storylines, people walking down the street , seeing nothing around them, lost in the junky music blaring through their I-pods (or whatever it was Bradbutry called 'em), newspapers reduced to comic-strips.  My son, when I got him to read it, just couldn't believe this was written in 1953. There's next-to-nothing in that book that really dates it.
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Graelwyn on February 11, 2015, 01:33:05 AM
I actually sometimes feel sad that I will not be alive to see what becomes of the future, especially when it comes to technology.
I have always had more interest in the long distant past, and the long distant future, than any present time. I used to watch Bladerunner over and over, night after night, and long to be living in that sort of world. Maybe it was all the neon lights, lol? That is another amazing film, of course. I was majorly pissed off when late last year, I missed the opportunity to see it on the big screen because I forgot the date it was on, even though I had booked a ticket.
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Semicolon on February 11, 2015, 07:58:26 AM
2001 is awesome, one of my all-time favourites.

I think it could all have happened by now if the US hadn't decided to shrink NASA's budget and refocus what remains every few years. The technology to establish a moon base is there, and there is an orbiting space station, but the focus has been elsewhere.

And there is Virgin Galactic, that will bring spaceflight to the masses at some point.

Yes, blame the US. :P I don't see Sweden planning a moon base. :hahaha:
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 11, 2015, 09:53:23 AM
2001 is awesome, one of my all-time favourites.

I think it could all have happened by now if the US hadn't decided to shrink NASA's budget and refocus what remains every few years. The technology to establish a moon base is there, and there is an orbiting space station, but the focus has been elsewhere.

And there is Virgin Galactic, that will bring spaceflight to the masses at some point.

Yes, blame the US. :P I don't see Sweden planning a moon base. :hahaha:

I think NASA should be a globally funded program.  :orly:
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: odeon on February 12, 2015, 12:26:56 AM
2001 is awesome, one of my all-time favourites.

I think it could all have happened by now if the US hadn't decided to shrink NASA's budget and refocus what remains every few years. The technology to establish a moon base is there, and there is an orbiting space station, but the focus has been elsewhere.

And there is Virgin Galactic, that will bring spaceflight to the masses at some point.

Yes, blame the US. :P I don't see Sweden planning a moon base. :hahaha:

/shrugs

The fact of the matter is that NASA could have done it by now.
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: odeon on February 12, 2015, 12:27:37 AM
2001 is awesome, one of my all-time favourites.

I think it could all have happened by now if the US hadn't decided to shrink NASA's budget and refocus what remains every few years. The technology to establish a moon base is there, and there is an orbiting space station, but the focus has been elsewhere.

And there is Virgin Galactic, that will bring spaceflight to the masses at some point.

Yes, blame the US. :P I don't see Sweden planning a moon base. :hahaha:

I think NASA should be a globally funded program.  :orly:

You do know that there are other space agencies, right?
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: odeon on February 12, 2015, 12:31:23 AM
Oh, and Semi: remind me. How are astronauts transported to the International Space Station, currently? :zoinks:
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 12, 2015, 05:53:51 AM
2001 is awesome, one of my all-time favourites.

I think it could all have happened by now if the US hadn't decided to shrink NASA's budget and refocus what remains every few years. The technology to establish a moon base is there, and there is an orbiting space station, but the focus has been elsewhere.

And there is Virgin Galactic, that will bring spaceflight to the masses at some point.

Yes, blame the US. :P I don't see Sweden planning a moon base. :hahaha:

I think NASA should be a globally funded program.  :orly:

You do know that there are other space agencies, right?

Sure, but you were the one faulting NASA in particular. I still think space exploration should be a global effort, so that would make all space stations belonging to the same agency. A new name would be in order. We could still call it NASA though if you need to mock it.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 12, 2015, 05:55:56 AM
Oh, and Semi: remind me. How are astronauts transported to the International Space Station, currently? :zoinks:

In Volvos?  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Semicolon on February 12, 2015, 07:40:24 AM
Oh, and Semi: remind me. How are astronauts transported to the International Space Station, currently? :zoinks:

In Volvos?  :zoinks:

:trollface:

How did the International Space Station get into space? :zoinks:
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: odeon on February 12, 2015, 04:00:27 PM
2001 is awesome, one of my all-time favourites.

I think it could all have happened by now if the US hadn't decided to shrink NASA's budget and refocus what remains every few years. The technology to establish a moon base is there, and there is an orbiting space station, but the focus has been elsewhere.

And there is Virgin Galactic, that will bring spaceflight to the masses at some point.

Yes, blame the US. :P I don't see Sweden planning a moon base. :hahaha:

I think NASA should be a globally funded program.  :orly:

You do know that there are other space agencies, right?

Sure, but you were the one faulting NASA in particular. I still think space exploration should be a global effort, so that would make all space stations belonging to the same agency. A new name would be in order. We could still call it NASA though if you need to mock it.  :zoinks:

I'm not mocking NASA. Whatever gave you that idea? I'm saying that their budget has been refocussed too many times. How are they supposed to plan ahead when their goals are being redefined every couple of years?
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: odeon on February 12, 2015, 04:01:02 PM
Oh, and Semi: remind me. How are astronauts transported to the International Space Station, currently? :zoinks:

In Volvos?  :zoinks:

Sort of.
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: odeon on February 12, 2015, 04:09:28 PM
Oh, and Semi: remind me. How are astronauts transported to the International Space Station, currently? :zoinks:

In Volvos?  :zoinks:

:trollface:

How did the International Space Station get into space? :zoinks:

In pieces. Why?
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Semicolon on February 13, 2015, 08:19:21 AM
Oh, and Semi: remind me. How are astronauts transported to the International Space Station, currently? :zoinks:

In Volvos?  :zoinks:

:trollface:

How did the International Space Station get into space? :zoinks:

In pieces. Why?

Just checking. :police:
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: odeon on February 13, 2015, 04:23:00 PM
I'm hoping that something will happen to revive the interest in space exploration. IMHO the shuttle was a step in the right direction, but it should never have been the only step in terms of human exploration.
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: MLA on February 13, 2015, 04:24:19 PM
I'm hoping that something will happen to revive the interest in space exploration. IMHO the shuttle was a step in the right direction, but it should never have been the only step in terms of human exploration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8na3oQzcwCk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8na3oQzcwCk#ws)

Shit ... can't remember how to embed YouTube
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: odeon on February 13, 2015, 04:30:53 PM
Mars One is not a realistic project. They don't have the resources to do it. A part of me is rooting for them, but another is thinking "idiots".

It's a very good example of (or it will be, given some time) why a Mars mission takes something like NASA, especially NASA as it was in the 60s and early 70s. Not a bunch of eager amateurs.
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: MLA on February 13, 2015, 04:31:59 PM
Mars One is not a realistic project. They don't have the resources to do it. A part of me is rooting for them, but another is thinking "idiots".

It's a very good example of (or it will be, given some time) why a Mars mission takes something like NASA, especially NASA as it was in the 60s and early 70s. Not a bunch of eager amateurs.

I agree they are all going to die horribly, and nowhere near Mars.  But they do represent an "interest in space exploration" as misguided as it may be.
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: odeon on February 13, 2015, 04:37:51 PM
Just to pick one single example: radiation. There's the intense radiation they will face while getting there. Then there's the radiation on the surface. The Mars atmosphere is quite thin and there's no real van Allen belt equivalent to protect them once there. The way I see it, the would-be Martians will be glowing in the dark long before they have managed to protect their settlement against the environment.

But most likely no one will die because they won't ever lift off.
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: Gopher Gary on February 14, 2015, 10:26:11 PM
I'm not mocking NASA. Whatever gave you that idea? I'm saying that their budget has been refocussed too many times. How are they supposed to plan ahead when their goals are being redefined every couple of years?

I'm just giving you a hard time, I realize you were taking a shot at the US.  :M

Shit ... can't remember how to embed YouTube

Remove the s from https. :hitler:
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: MLA on February 20, 2015, 04:39:56 PM
Remove the s from https. :hitler:

Thanks Gary
Title: Re: Arthur C Clark, prophet.
Post by: odeon on February 21, 2015, 02:30:07 AM
I'm not mocking NASA. Whatever gave you that idea? I'm saying that their budget has been refocussed too many times. How are they supposed to plan ahead when their goals are being redefined every couple of years?

I'm just giving you a hard time, I realize you were taking a shot at the US.  :M

Sheesh. I'm taking a shot at the changing policies, not at the country. FFS, stop being so sensitive.