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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: 'andersom' on June 28, 2014, 10:39:13 AM
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throwing snails 20 metres. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/10834071/Throwing-snails-20-metres-away-may-save-your-plants.html)
Throwing snails 20 metres away may save your plants
New research has shown that snails lose their ability to find their way back to a garden if tossed more than 65 feet away
Frustrated gardeners often deploy a range of imaginative strategies to tackle snails and slugs, including chemical pellets, beer traps, egg shells and simply stamping on the creatures
Frustrated gardeners often deploy a range of imaginative strategies to tackle snails and slugs, including chemical pellets, beer traps, egg shells and simply stamping on the creatures Photo: ALAMY
Gardeners struggling to protect their plants from snails should develop a strong throwing arm to tackle the pests.
New research has shown that throwing snails at least 65 feet out of the garden is as beneficial as killing the molluscs.
Scientists found snails placed within a 20 metre (65 feet) radius can use a "homing instinct" to find their way back to a a patch of ground while those moved further away almost always failed to find their way back.
It comes after a recent survey showed that a fifth of gardners admit to lobbing snails over the fence into a neighbour's garden.
Frustrated gardeners often deploy a range of imaginative strategies to tackle snails and slugs, including chemical pellets, beer traps, egg shells and simply stamping on the creatures.
READ: The Laskett gardens: Paradise remade
However, the new study, published in the journal Physica Scripta, found there was little advantage for gardeners in killing the snails they discovered in their flower beds, as they are part of a much larger population coming in and out of the garden.
Even systematic search and kill missions would take months to bring down the total population significantly.
Instead the researchers found that it was possible to reduce numbers temporarily to protect young plants by simply throwing them over a wall or up to 16 feet away.
Moving the creatures more than 65 feet away will cause the snails to almost completely fail to find their way back and the researchers suggest gardners could benefit from "a stronger throwing arm or mechanically-assisted lobbing".
But the researchers said it might be better for neighbourly relations to take the snails to a nearby wasteland, rather than shifting the problem into nearby gardens.
Study co-author Professor David Dunstan, from Queen Mary University of London, said: "We showed that the number of snails regularly or irregularly visiting a garden is many times greater than the number actually present at any one time in the garden.
"As such, gardeners shouldn't be setting out to eliminate snails from their gardens. To achieve such a feat would require a gardener to rid the whole neighbourhood of snails, which would be a slow process.
"Gardeners should be setting out to minimise the damage done by snails, which our results showed could be quickly achieved by simply removing the snails over 20 metres away."
He added: "A recent poll by the Royal Horticultural Society showed that one in five gardeners in the UK have thrown snails into their neighbours' gardens.
"Whilst our study shows that this may be more beneficial than actually killing them, we believe the gardening community would benefit as a whole by removing the snails to a convenient wasteland rather than passing the burden onto their neighbours."
Co-author Dr Dave Hodgson, from the University of Exeter, discovered with amateur scientist Ruth Brooks in 2010 that snails have a homing instinct.
Prof Dunstan's research began with an experiment in 2001 in which snails found in a small suburban garden were marked and thrown five metres over a brick wall and into wasteland.
Every time they returned they were given another mark on their shell and lobbed into the wasteland again. A total of 416 snails were marked and thrown over the wall 1,385 times over six months.
Previously suffering plants such as hostas thrived under the regime, suggesting it was keeping the number of snails at a reduced level.
Dr Hodgson and Prof Dunstan have analysed the results through a computer model which simulated snail behaviour and found they could only replicate what happened in real life if they gave the snails a "homing instinct".
In the second year of the experiment, the snails were numbered and even-numbered snails were thrown over the wall, and odd-numbered snails taken four doors up the road to a garden around 20 metres away.
Virtually none of the snails that were taken further afield came back to the garden, the study found.
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They actually researched this? I used the relocation method with chipmunks.
Catch chipmunk, take for 5 minute car ride and drop off in front of someone else's house.
I still say getting them drunk is much more fun.
Seriously would you rather die by being, poisoned, crushed, catapulted, cut up by egg shells, or while drinking beer?
I vote for beer. ;)
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I never used it but always liked the way they left nothing to the imagination with this product :green:
(http://www.cityfarmer.org/corry.gif)
Although if I had a problem with snails I would just toss them into the neighbors yard that I don't like :mwhaha:
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Beware causing harm to the wee creatures, lest ye incur their slimy wrath! :snail: I'll be back, fucker!
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I thought this might be about throwing up after eating escargot. :puke:
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I also vote for beer. For me.
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They actually researched this? I used the relocation method with chipmunks.
Catch chipmunk, take for 5 minute car ride and drop off in front of someone else's house.
I still say getting them drunk is much more fun.
Seriously would you rather die by being, poisoned, crushed, catapulted, cut up by egg shells, or while drinking beer?
I vote for beer. ;)
I've tried beer traps, one year. I have a small garden. And the beer brought all the snails to my yard, so I ended up with more than I had to begin with, and the neighbours had less. Now I just let them be, most of the time, pick them from the plants I really don't want them on, but the others can stay where they are.
I posted it because they did actually research it. The visual of men seriously tossing marked snails over a wall for six month was tickling my funny bones. And then numbering and sorting uneven from even snails made me grin even more.
I admit, I would not have mind at all, being part of the research team. :hyke:
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Beware causing harm to the wee creatures, lest ye incur their slimy wrath! :snail: I'll be back, fucker!
Such language! :o That snail should repent. :pope:
They actually researched this? I used the relocation method with chipmunks.
Catch chipmunk, take for 5 minute car ride and drop off in front of someone else's house.
I still say getting them drunk is much more fun.
Seriously would you rather die by being, poisoned, crushed, catapulted, cut up by egg shells, or while drinking beer?
I vote for beer. ;)
I've tried beer traps, one year. I have a small garden. And the beer brought all the snails to my yard, so I ended up with more than I had to begin with, and the neighbours had less. Now I just let them be, most of the time, pick them from the plants I really don't want them on, but the others can stay where they are.
I posted it because they did actually research it. The visual of men seriously tossing marked snails over a wall for six month was tickling my funny bones. And then numbering and sorting uneven from even snails made me grin even more.
I admit, I would not have mind at all, being part of the research team. :hyke:
Do they suggest building a snail catapult? :orly:
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Beware causing harm to the wee creatures, lest ye incur their slimy wrath! :snail: I'll be back, fucker!
Such language! :o That snail should repent. :pope:
They actually researched this? I used the relocation method with chipmunks.
Catch chipmunk, take for 5 minute car ride and drop off in front of someone else's house.
I still say getting them drunk is much more fun.
Seriously would you rather die by being, poisoned, crushed, catapulted, cut up by egg shells, or while drinking beer?
I vote for beer. ;)
I've tried beer traps, one year. I have a small garden. And the beer brought all the snails to my yard, so I ended up with more than I had to begin with, and the neighbours had less. Now I just let them be, most of the time, pick them from the plants I really don't want them on, but the others can stay where they are.
I posted it because they did actually research it. The visual of men seriously tossing marked snails over a wall for six month was tickling my funny bones. And then numbering and sorting uneven from even snails made me grin even more.
I admit, I would not have mind at all, being part of the research team. :hyke:
Do they suggest building a snail catapult? :orly:
Moving the creatures more than 65 feet away will cause the snails to almost completely fail to find their way back and the researchers suggest gardners could benefit from "a stronger throwing arm or mechanically-assisted lobbing".
Not in so many words...but I think a catapult would be a bit cool. :autism:
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Catapult is not the preferred way of travelling for snails, I think. They have no breaking systems to get a soft landing.
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They actually researched this? I used the relocation method with chipmunks.
Catch chipmunk, take for 5 minute car ride and drop off in front of someone else's house.
I still say getting them drunk is much more fun.
Seriously would you rather die by being, poisoned, crushed, catapulted, cut up by egg shells, or while drinking beer?
I vote for beer. ;)
When first reading this, thought you meant the chipmunks. :laugh:
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Catapult is not the preferred way of travelling for snails, I think. They have no breaking systems to get a soft landing.
:snail: About time somebody thought about US for a change! We have feelings too!
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Catapult is not the preferred way of travelling for snails, I think. They have no breaking systems to get a soft landing.
:snail: About time somebody thought about US for a change! We have feelings too!
The French seem to pamper their snails. Maybe I should tell my snails to move to France. :apondering:
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Catapult is not the preferred way of travelling for snails, I think. They have no breaking systems to get a soft landing.
:snail: About time somebody thought about US for a change! We have feelings too!
The French seem to pamper their snails. Maybe I should tell my snails to move to France. :apondering:
Perhaps you should attach a small cup to a piece of yarn and turn a spinning wheel into a snail catapult. :hyke: You could make a hobby out of building snail-launching siege weapons. :orly:
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Catapult is not the preferred way of travelling for snails, I think. They have no breaking systems to get a soft landing.
Such a shame.
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Catapult is not the preferred way of travelling for snails, I think. They have no breaking systems to get a soft landing.
:snail: About time somebody thought about US for a change! We have feelings too!
The French seem to pamper their snails. Maybe I should tell my snails to move to France. :apondering:
Pamper? You mean eat, right? :P
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Catapult is not the preferred way of travelling for snails, I think. They have no breaking systems to get a soft landing.
:snail: About time somebody thought about US for a change! We have feelings too!
The French seem to pamper their snails. Maybe I should tell my snails to move to France. :apondering:
Pamper? You mean eat, right? :P
Hush, you, my snails might hear you.
Before that fateful event you mentioned, they get spoiled, and they get a colon cleaning on top of that too. What more could a snail wish for. Free food, and free healthcare.
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:snail: Screw that! French people just want to eat us! They're mean fuckers!
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:snail: Screw that! French people just want to eat us! They're mean fuckers!
This snail keeps using bad language. :o It can repent during the catapult ride. :pope:
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:snail: Screw that! French people just want to eat us! They're mean fuckers!
This snail keeps using bad language. :o It can repent during the catapult ride. :pope:
Snails do know how to screw though, swing both ways, needing only one partner for that.
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(http://cabsurdum.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/snail-playboy-magazine-34973-1.jpg?w=584)
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:snail: Screw that! French people just want to eat us! They're mean fuckers!
This snail keeps using bad language. :o It can repent during the catapult ride. :pope:
:snail: Fuck that! I'm not going in a catapult, you mean French fucker!
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:snail: Screw that! French people just want to eat us! They're mean fuckers!
This snail keeps using bad language. :o It can repent during the catapult ride. :pope:
:snail: Fuck that! I'm not going in a catapult, you mean French fucker!
Would you like some beer? :glug: :zoinks:
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:snail: Don't try to get me drunk, you mean fucker! I'm not getting in any goddamn catapult!
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(http://cabsurdum.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/snail-playboy-magazine-34973-1.jpg?w=584)
:zombiefuck:
Hand me the brain bleach.
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:snail: Don't try to get me drunk, you mean fucker! I'm not getting in any goddamn catapult!
Congratulations, you've won a free airplane ticket! Step up to the counter to claim your prize. :hadron:
(http://www.experciencia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/experimento_catapulta_palitos.jpg)
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:snail: Don't try to get me drunk, you mean fucker! I'm not getting in any goddamn catapult!
It's just like an amusement park ride! Nothing to worry about! :2thumbsup:
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:snail: Don't try to get me drunk, you mean fucker! I'm not getting in any goddamn catapult!
Congratulations, you've won a free airplane ticket! Step up to the counter to claim your prize. :hadron:
(http://www.experciencia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/experimento_catapulta_palitos.jpg)
:snail: I'm not getting onto a goddamn plastic spoon! So tacky! Fuck that and fuck you!
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:snail: Don't try to get me drunk, you mean fucker! I'm not getting in any goddamn catapult!
It's just like an amusement park ride! Nothing to worry about! :2thumbsup:
:snail: You go first, you mean Swedish fucker! I'm sick of this shit! I slime in your general direction!
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:snail: Don't try to get me drunk, you mean fucker! I'm not getting in any goddamn catapult!
It's just like an amusement park ride! Nothing to worry about! :2thumbsup:
:snail: You go first, you mean Swedish fucker! I'm sick of this shit! I slime in your general direction!
It's the first snail mail ever with express delivery! :2thumbsup:
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:snail: Don't try to get me drunk, you mean fucker! I'm not getting in any goddamn catapult!
It's just like an amusement park ride! Nothing to worry about! :2thumbsup:
:snail: You go first, you mean Swedish fucker! I'm sick of this shit! I slime in your general direction!
It's the first snail mail ever with express delivery! :2thumbsup:
:snail: Now I'm really mad! I hope you're stuck with that Novell bullshit till you're a hundred years old!
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:snail: Don't try to get me drunk, you mean fucker! I'm not getting in any goddamn catapult!
It's just like an amusement park ride! Nothing to worry about! :2thumbsup:
:snail: You go first, you mean Swedish fucker! I'm sick of this shit! I slime in your general direction!
It's the first snail mail ever with express delivery! :2thumbsup:
:snail: Now I'm really mad! I hope you're stuck with that Novell bullshit till you're a hundred years old!
About the time it takes to deliver an email using it.
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:snail: Don't try to get me drunk, you mean fucker! I'm not getting in any goddamn catapult!
Congratulations, you've won a free airplane ticket! Step up to the counter to claim your prize. :hadron:
(http://www.experciencia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/experimento_catapulta_palitos.jpg)
:snail: I'm not getting onto a goddamn plastic spoon! So tacky! Fuck that and fuck you!
Thank you for flying Moomin Air. Watch your step as you disembark, and have a safe trip. :plane:
(http://www.aircargonews.com/FT06/moomins.gif)
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I think the snail would enjoy flying on Moomin Air. :snail: :moomin: Moomins are very kind.
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I think the snail would enjoy flying on Moomin Air. :snail: :moomin: Moomins are very kind.
Moomin Air has several vehicles to meet all of your travel needs. :moomin:
(https://catastrophicfindings.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/moominballoon.jpg) (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FP3szVlODlk/UdFNpaWk-NI/AAAAAAAACyU/4FD2iD6bGgM/s1024/Moomin+The+One+Hong+Kong+04.JPG)
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All Moomin Air flights feature refreshments served by courteous and helpful staff! :tea: :moomin:
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All Moomin Air flights feature refreshments served by courteous and helpful staff! :tea: :moomin:
:indeed:
Dinner choices for this flight are surströmming with chips and beer or escargot à la Moomin. :thumbup:
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All Moomin Air flights feature refreshments served by courteous and helpful staff! :tea: :moomin:
:indeed:
Dinner choices for this flight are surströmming with chips and beer or escargot à la Moomin. :thumbup:
:snail: You big mean hairy fucker! Fuck you! You ruin everything!
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All Moomin Air flights feature refreshments served by courteous and helpful staff! :tea: :moomin:
:indeed:
Dinner choices for this flight are surströmming with chips and beer or escargot à la Moomin. :thumbup:
:snail: You big mean hairy fucker! Fuck you! You ruin everything!
You don't like surströmming? :dunno:
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*Nobody* likes surströmming.
Well, that's not quite true. Some people never get close enough--the smell drives them away.
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*Nobody* likes surströmming.
Well, that's not quite true. Some people never get close enough--the smell drives them away.
So you prefer hákarl? :shark: :orly:
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I prefer food.
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I prefer food.
:snail:
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I prefer food.
:snail:
:snail: Fuck you, you're not going to eat me! Get a job, you troll!
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I prefer food.
:snail:
:snail: Fuck you, you're not going to eat me! Get a job, you troll!
I'll get a job as a French chef. :fatchef:
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:laugh: Never realized snails are so hilarious.
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I prefer food.
:snail:
:snail: Fuck you, you're not going to eat me! Get a job, you troll!
I'll get a job as a French chef. :fatchef:
:snail: Ignoring you. Not listening. LA LA LA LA LA
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:laugh: Never realized snails are so hilarious.
Snails are dinner and a show. :thumbup:
I prefer food.
:snail:
:snail: Fuck you, you're not going to eat me! Get a job, you troll!
I'll get a job as a French chef. :fatchef:
:snail: Ignoring you. Not listening. LA LA LA LA LA
Good, the snail can't hear me sneaking. :fatchef:
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:snail: No matter how much you keep walking, you'll never quite reach me! Look and learn, troll!
:snail: :fatchef:
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There is actually bugger all point in removing snails/slugs from one's garden, as they are just part of a larger local population, that will replace the removed specimens more or less immediately. Or quickly, for a legless mollusc, at any rate.
I keep finding them in the middle of the street when its rained, and have to pick the little buggers up and move them somewhere they are not in the path of a crunching boot or car tyre.
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:snail: No matter how much you keep walking, you'll never quite reach me! Look and learn, troll!
:snail: :fatchef:
Here I am, trampling over the snails: :zoinks:
:fatchef:
:snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail:
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:snail: No matter how much you keep walking, you'll never quite reach me! Look and learn, troll!
:snail: :fatchef:
Here I am, trampling over the snails: :zoinks:
:fatchef:
:snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail:
:snail: And we remain unbroken, fucker! Deal with it!
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:snail: No matter how much you keep walking, you'll never quite reach me! Look and learn, troll!
:snail: :fatchef:
Here I am, trampling over the snails: :zoinks:
:fatchef:
:snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail: :snail:
:snail: And we remain unbroken, fucker! Deal with it!
I will borrow Hyke's klompen next time. :hyke:
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:snail: Hyke will never help you to hurt us, you hairy bastard! Suck on THAT!
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:snail: Hyke will never help you to hurt us, you hairy bastard! Suck on THAT!
I will suck on a lemon that is served with seafood. :M
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:snail: Hyke will never help you to hurt us, you hairy bastard! Suck on THAT!
I will suck on a lemon that is served with seafood. :M
Lemons :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: don't like you either. They say :finger: :finger: :finger:
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:snail: Hyke will never help you to hurt us, you hairy bastard! Suck on THAT!
I will suck on a lemon that is served with seafood. :M
Lemons :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: don't like you either. They say :finger: :finger: :finger:
Let them say what they want. :M I'm too busy eating to hear them. :zoinks:
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Fatty fat American mastodon, always eating. :hahaha:
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Fatty fat American mastodon, always eating. :hahaha:
I haven't eaten enough to be a Weeble. :zoinks:
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Fatty fat American mastodon, always eating. :hahaha:
I haven't eaten enough to be a Weeble. :zoinks:
You certainly have. I'm lookin' at your avatar. Petite, you are not. :P
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Fatty fat American mastodon, always eating. :hahaha:
I haven't eaten enough to be a Weeble. :zoinks:
You certainly have. I'm lookin' at your avatar. Petite, you are not. :P
I'm fit to trample the forest. :M
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Fatty fat American mastodon, always eating. :hahaha:
I haven't eaten enough to be a Weeble. :zoinks:
You certainly have. I'm lookin' at your avatar. Petite, you are not. :P
I'm fit to trample the forest. :M
Sure, that's great for the habitat! :clap: :trollface:
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Fatty fat American mastodon, always eating. :hahaha:
I haven't eaten enough to be a Weeble. :zoinks:
You certainly have. I'm lookin' at your avatar. Petite, you are not. :P
I'm fit to trample the forest. :M
Sure, that's great for the habitat! :clap: :trollface:
I'm as environmentally conscious as any American. :trollface:
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:laugh: Never realized snails are so hilarious.
One of these days I'll have to look up a link for you. There's a lot more to snails than this.
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:laugh: Never realized snails are so hilarious.
One of these days I'll have to look up a link for you. There's a lot more to snails than this.
Is it a recipe? :zoinks:
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:laugh: Never realized snails are so hilarious.
One of these days I'll have to look up a link for you. There's a lot more to snails than this.
Do it now.
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:laugh: Never realized snails are so hilarious.
One of these days I'll have to look up a link for you. There's a lot more to snails than this.
Do it now.
The bookmark is on an old machine somewhere, and the search involves a wayback machine. I just got up and can't be bothered right now.
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:laugh: Never realized snails are so hilarious.
One of these days I'll have to look up a link for you. There's a lot more to snails than this.
Do it now.
The bookmark is on an old machine somewhere, and the search involves a wayback machine. I just got up and can't be bothered right now.
One of these days usually never happens.
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:laugh: Never realized snails are so hilarious.
One of these days I'll have to look up a link for you. There's a lot more to snails than this.
Do it now.
The bookmark is on an old machine somewhere, and the search involves a wayback machine. I just got up and can't be bothered right now.
One of these days usually never happens.
Here is one of these days. :rock: CBC can rock out to this song. :cbc: :headbang2:
One Of These Days (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1kZ6M2aMvw#ws)
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:laugh: Never realized snails are so hilarious.
One of these days I'll have to look up a link for you. There's a lot more to snails than this.
Do it now.
The bookmark is on an old machine somewhere, and the search involves a wayback machine. I just got up and can't be bothered right now.
One of these days usually never happens.
You're right. Unfortunately. This time, I did check if I still have the bookmark, but I don't. Not sure how to locate this particular page now.
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:laugh: Never realized snails are so hilarious.
One of these days I'll have to look up a link for you. There's a lot more to snails than this.
Do it now.
The bookmark is on an old machine somewhere, and the search involves a wayback machine. I just got up and can't be bothered right now.
One of these days usually never happens.
You're right. Unfortunately. This time, I did check if I still have the bookmark, but I don't. Not sure how to locate this particular page now.
Was it this (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2013/05/top_thirteen_snails_in_pop_culture.php)?
For CBC:
(http://static.squarespace.com/static/52db290ce4b0506918732854/53502fb3e4b0a74166d78e34/53502fbde4b0c8fd20ff953d/1397764030746/macro-photography-snails-vyacheslav-mishchenko-5-1.jpg)
(http://static.squarespace.com/static/52db290ce4b0506918732854/53502fb3e4b0a74166d78e34/53502fb7e4b0c8fd20ff9533/1397764034682/macro-photography-snails-vyacheslav-mishchenko-2.jpg)
Source (http://www.entertaintheking.com/stories/snails-magic-world)
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:snail: Awww, see, we are beautiful creatures and even Semicolon loves us!
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:snail: Awww, see, we are beautiful creatures and even Semicolon loves us!
(http://static.squarespace.com/static/52db290ce4b0506918732854/53502fb3e4b0a74166d78e34/53502fbce4b0768cad0812a8/1397764029762/macro-photography-snails-vyacheslav-mishchenko-9.jpg)
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That's awesome.
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That's awesome.
:snail: :heart: :snail:
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I just throw snails as far as I can and have them hit the pavement. 8)
They're not weebles, they don't get up again. >:D