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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: ZEGH8578 on October 11, 2013, 11:59:51 AM
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Recently I read about a 15 year old boy who commited suicide after being put on the "sex offenders list" for having streaked during a football game. Show butt for fun = RAPE.
Before that I read about a 9 year old girl, apprehended, arrested, and brought to TRIAL... TO TRIAL... for "playing doctor" with a boy.
I can imagine the prosecutors - "this girl did not PLAY DOCTOR... there were no stetoscopes found or anything! She was exploring his genitals, in a naive but sexually curious manner!"
*BAM: RAPIST!*
Here's my suggestion: Ban nudity. Anyone ever remove their clothes - for any reason - put them on the sex-offenders list.
You can shower perfectly well by gathering water and soap in your hand, lifting your shirt, and splashing it up under.
^Forward this suggestion to your politicians, they'll be thrilled!
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Recently I read about a 15 year old boy who commited suicide after being put on the "sex offenders list" for having streaked during a football game. Show butt for fun = RAPE.
Before that I read about a 9 year old girl, apprehended, arrested, and brought to TRIAL... TO TRIAL... for "playing doctor" with a boy.
I can imagine the prosecutors - "this girl did not PLAY DOCTOR... there were no stetoscopes found or anything! She was exploring his genitals, in a naive but sexually curious manner!"
*BAM: RAPIST!*
Here's my suggestion: Ban nudity. Anyone ever remove their clothes - for any reason - put them on the sex-offenders list.
You can shower perfectly well by gathering water and soap in your hand, lifting your shirt, and splashing it up under.
^Forward this suggestion to your politicians, they'll be thrilled!
BRILLIANT. :green:
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BRILLIANT. :green:
Thanks :D
Politics is a fire-bucket I've learned to not debate too much w people, no matter what country etc. But this fear of nudity seen in America - it was funny! At first!
But it's not anymore, not when children are being legally punished for... nudity :D This baffles me...
In fact, it isn't just America, obviously, all the muslim countries are _terrified_ of nudity as well, and punish any hint harshly, and it is very worrying.
Another thing that bothers me is: Toddlers in a bikini, on the beach. No, no, no. I find a toddler in a bikini to look more sexualized than buck naked, and a sexualized toddler makes me uneasy :D
I have a bit of understanding, parents want to protect their baby from creeps glances, but seriously... I'm betting your average European tourist beach has like... 10 spying toddler-lovers a year or something... statistically, it should be a non-issue.
On the same beaches, I am walked past, 1 metre from me, young teen girls with the perkiest tits ever, bouncing free. I was actually cut off mid-sentence, just to stutter a bit, before I could collect my chain of thought again
"O_O"
Make up your minds people!
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Yeah, people are insane.
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Half of society has a board stuck up their ass anymore.
Doesn't take much to offend them.
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I'm pretty disgusted that a 9yo could be arrested at all, let alone brought to trial for that sort of thing.
Here in the UK 9yo is below the age of criminal responsibility entirely. 10 is the absolute minimum that a child can be found guilty of a crime, before that, the principle of doli incapax applies.
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In Sweden it's 15. Before that you can't be prosecuted. And before you are 18, you won't get a real punishment either, except in extremely severe cases.
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There have always been prudish people around but the worry about sex offenders and shit is from of the fear mongering the media and politicians who began using for votes and viewers in the 90s. Politicians love looking like they are tough on crime and just keep adding what makes up a sex crime without thinking of the consequences, couple that with the zero tolerance shit that they also love and the above stories are what you get. Anybody who questions any of it is hit with the 'don't you want to protect the children' bullshit and looked at suspiciously.
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:agreed: :plus:
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Religion.
The more religious a country is, the greater amount of restrictions and control placed on sexuality.
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The really perverted thing is to consider nudity unnatural.
I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of real sex offenders, pedophiles etc among the legislators themselves, just like it is in the Catholic church.
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I honestly don't see the problem with a couple of tweens discovering that kind of shit. I mean they're putting themselves in danger of teen pregnancy, and i'd explain it to them and whip their asses for it. But ARRESTING them? What the fuck?
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I honestly don't see the problem with a couple of tweens discovering that kind of shit. I mean they're putting themselves in danger of teen pregnancy, and i'd explain it to them and whip their asses for it. But ARRESTING them? What the fuck?
They weren't even tweens, the girl was 9, the boy was 8 or so, in that one case, she was exploring his wee wee...
I mean...
What pisses me off most about this - is that everyone pretends like its some secret. Like, since we don't talk about it - we cannot admit that it exists - even when it gets real serious.
When POLICE arrives, it's time for someone to go "hold it everyone... kids... they're KIDS EXPLORING... genitals. You never did that?"
"I NEVER DID THAT! GOD WOULD PUNISH ME IF I DID!"
"well, then you're a douchebag. RELEASE THE KID AND LET HER GO HOME TO HER DINNER FFS."
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I honestly don't see the problem with a couple of tweens discovering that kind of shit. I mean they're putting themselves in danger of teen pregnancy, and i'd explain it to them and whip their asses for it. But ARRESTING them? What the fuck?
They weren't even tweens, the girl was 9, the boy was 8 or so, in that one case, she was exploring his wee wee...
I mean...
What pisses me off most about this - is that everyone pretends like its some secret. Like, since we don't talk about it - we cannot admit that it exists - even when it gets real serious.
When POLICE arrives, it's time for someone to go "hold it everyone... kids... they're KIDS EXPLORING... genitals. You never did that?"
"I NEVER DID THAT! GOD WOULD PUNISH ME IF I DID!"
"well, then you're a douchebag. RELEASE THE KID AND LET HER GO HOME TO HER DINNER FFS."
Seriously. Theres a difference between DFGloverfaggot sniffing his sis and getting a hardon, and a couple of kids saying "look mine is different than yours". People need to get a fucking life, man.
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"look mine is different than yours".
That's pretty much it.
And corrrrupted minds come along, and make it about sex and porn and whores and their own fffucking infidelities. Fuck them all.
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"look mine is different than yours".
That's pretty much it.
And corrrrupted minds come along, and make it about sex and porn and whores and their own fffucking infidelities. Fuck them all.
It kind of -is- about sex, but not the way adults think about it. I remember that shit. Its like a discovery thing. Your identity is developing sexually, mentally, and in every other aspect. Its completely normal for a couple or a few kids to drop their drawers at some point and notice how different each other's dicks and pussies are. They're just kids, after all! How else will they know about it?
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"look mine is different than yours".
That's pretty much it.
And corrrrupted minds come along, and make it about sex and porn and whores and their own fffucking infidelities. Fuck them all.
It kind of -is- about sex, but not the way adults think about it. I remember that shit. Its like a discovery thing. Your identity is developing sexually, mentally, and in every other aspect. Its completely normal for a couple or a few kids to drop their drawers at some point and notice how different each other's dicks and pussies are. They're just kids, after all! How else will they know about it?
Again, summing it up!
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"look mine is different than yours".
That's pretty much it.
And corrrrupted minds come along, and make it about sex and porn and whores and their own fffucking infidelities. Fuck them all.
It kind of -is- about sex, but not the way adults think about it. I remember that shit. Its like a discovery thing. Your identity is developing sexually, mentally, and in every other aspect. Its completely normal for a couple or a few kids to drop their drawers at some point and notice how different each other's dicks and pussies are. They're just kids, after all! How else will they know about it?
Again, summing it up!
Glad -someone- wouldn't freak out and send their kid to jail for trying to grow up. :zoinks:
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I hate to say it, but I agree with Ross.
The more religious the society the more sexually (openly) repressed they are.
I bet privately, these repressed people are porn addicted, kinky mother fuckers.
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I hate to say it, but I agree with Ross.
The more religious the society the more sexually (openly) repressed they are.
I bet privately, these repressed people are porn addicted, kinky mother fuckers.
Bringing up America again, you see a reprecussion there: Sexuality is almost taboo, and is often left for schools to explain to the kids.
Psychology 1.1: What is forbidden is exciting.
Therefore you get all this half naked singers, always HALF naked, cus entirely naked would be a fucking catastrophe for everyone :D But its very confusing.
You get teens and tweens almost obsessing about it.
In contrast - when children grow up knowing what sex is: Something their lame-ass parents do "that feels very good on daddys penis and mommys vagina" kids will be horrified at the idea of sex :D untill! Their hormones actually begin telling them that they should try it - around the appropriate age! :D
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Most dumbasses don't know the difference between religion and spirituality.
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Most dumbasses don't know the difference between religion and spirituality.
dumbass=nigger?
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Most dumbasses don't know the difference between religion and spirituality.
QFT.
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Most dumbasses don't know the difference between religion and spirituality.
dumbass=nigger?
Yes. Pretty much the same. Don't be such a nigger.
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Funny shit-on the plaques that were attached to the voyager I and II probes, the representation of a human being, male and female, was originally to be a naked man and woman line drawing. The prudes wouldn't have this, and insisted on it being changed to a silhouette. How fucking dumb is that.
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Funny shit-on the plaques that were attached to the voyager I and II probes, the representation of a human being, male and female, was originally to be a naked man and woman line drawing. The prudes wouldn't have this, and insisted on it being changed to a silhouette. How fucking dumb is that.
Mouth breather level stupidity.
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Funny shit-on the plaques that were attached to the voyager I and II probes, the representation of a human being, male and female, was originally to be a naked man and woman line drawing. The prudes wouldn't have this, and insisted on it being changed to a silhouette. How fucking dumb is that.
I know! :D Because - the aliens would be offended - cus - uh - they had been saved by Jesus too!
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Most dumbasses don't know the difference between religion and spirituality.
dumbass=nigger?
Yes. Pretty much the same. Don't be such a nigger.
dont be such a faggot. Lol
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Most dumbasses don't know the difference between religion and spirituality.
dumbass=nigger?
Yes. Pretty much the same. Don't be such a nigger.
dont be such a faggot. Lol
Now you're getting it. :thumbup:
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I hate to say it, but I agree with Ross.
The more religious the society the more sexually (openly) repressed they are.
I bet privately, these repressed people are porn addicted, kinky mother fuckers.
Don't know if it is. But, maybe in the USA it is, because Europe exported her most rigid believers there. Puritans and such. But, in Europe I don't think there is this overall connection. Would not surprise me if there was a strong connection between nude recreation and socialism though. (That would of course make nudity even more suspect in the USAro
The revenge is upon Europe, pentecostal movements coming back to convert us. Karma is a bitch. But, what I have seen, no extreme anxiety for nakedness or sexuality, yet.
The nude seems to be forbidden more and more on grounds of possible abuse though. Makes no sense. Abuse mostly doesn't happen in the open.
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The so called "war on pedophiles" is a fraud, just like the "war on terrorism". You don't chase pedophiles by banning Japanese cartoons.
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In Europe there used to be a difference between nudity and sex. Naturist sites were an issue, maybe. But, a gate and a fence would make it doable for the surrounding people. In the US naturist sites were seen as sex clubs. That's probably why nudity is so much more an issue in the USA.
The Netherlands are getting less religious and more prudish, when it comes to nudity. I think that is true in the whole of Europe. I wonder if a movie like "Ronia, the Robber's Daughter" could still be made for kids, nowadays.
Weird how towards nudity it seems to get more prudish, while sex ads are on tv more and more early in the evening.
Being scared of nudity makes no sense, to me.
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In Europe there used to be a difference between nudity and sex. Naturist sites were an issue, maybe. But, a gate and a fence would make it doable for the surrounding people. In the US naturist sites were seen as sex clubs. That's probably why nudity is so much more an issue in the USA.
The Netherlands are getting less religious and more prudish, when it comes to nudity. I think that is true in the whole of Europe. I wonder if a movie like "Ronia, the Robber's Daughter" could still be made for kids, nowadays.
Weird how towards nudity it seems to get more prudish, while sex ads are on tv more and more early in the evening.
Being scared of nudity makes no sense, to me.
I enjoy being naked.
The law makes me wear clothing, tho
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In Europe there used to be a difference between nudity and sex. Naturist sites were an issue, maybe. But, a gate and a fence would make it doable for the surrounding people. In the US naturist sites were seen as sex clubs. That's probably why nudity is so much more an issue in the USA.
The Netherlands are getting less religious and more prudish, when it comes to nudity. I think that is true in the whole of Europe. I wonder if a movie like "Ronia, the Robber's Daughter" could still be made for kids, nowadays.
Weird how towards nudity it seems to get more prudish, while sex ads are on tv more and more early in the evening.
Being scared of nudity makes no sense, to me.
I enjoy being naked.
The law makes me wear clothing, tho
Best Western country to live, when enjoying to be naked, is probably Germany. So, it might be time to emigrate. :santa:
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I do have a German birth certificate
never was naturalized here
time to move
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Too bad it's mostly old folks going around naked. Young people with sexy bodies rarely go naked :-\
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The agenda towards pedophiles is entirely retarded. It is based on the idea that humans are some kind of metaphysical spirit who has the power of choice over all their actions, and related social constructs around it. The idea that everyone is equal. Being realistic is more complicated than imposing some one-liner ideology as the universal good. The problem is when people make ideologies their reality, instead of seeing them as the possibly least worst outcome to work with, which they were originally intended to be.
It is like an electronics engineer entirely not comprehending that the idealized components he is working with and designing equations and circuits on are in reality not ideal at all. Of course you need the idealizations to to comprehend and work with the circuit. But they might just be entirely nonsensical by themselves if you are trying to diagnose a specific problem with your board. A problem that by all likeliness emerged precisely because the only errors in your design are caused by thinking within a simplified belief system.
An electronics engineer has to always consider and acknowledge the reality that he is merely using a tool by believing in the theories and concepts he is thinking in, but that they are in fact just limited abstract ideas designed to make things easier to work with, and that they don't exist in the real world. The only way the engineer can be successful is to acknowledge reality as it truly is and can be observed and to build logic, methods and preventive considerations around keeping a circuit from malfunctioning. He does that by gaining and acknowledging a rational understanding that might entirely contradict the whole belief system of idealized components.
And that this is not done within society and the legal system, because of the ignorance and denial of the people, is the biggest practical deficit it still has.
People need to understand that all we do is essentially largely involuntary and shaped by instinctual responses. People need to comprehend that and how it is being a slave to whatever was evolutionary programmed into you. I think comprehending sexuality is a good start, because it is the most striking and intense impulse that is also largely superfluous at the same time. Most people are normal and can functionally integrate their instinct. But you can see what will happen if that is entirely impossible, i.e. to people who are pedophile.
That is why pedophiles as individuals should be supported and not rejected. They need a functional integration of their sexual impulses and instincts that does not actually involve interacting with children. If they go into self-denial about them, it will only and even more so mutate that, which seeks to be expressed by design and any means, into some unpredictable and hard-to-control force against all reasonable choice. Many people on this board possibly have made that experience themselves (by social isolation and deprivation of sexual relationships), or at least can see how the dynamics of it actually are.
Pedophiles should also be supported in the sense that they are acknowledged as humans and not rejected as being intrinsically inhumane. That the same mechanics which make them sick monsters exist in all of us, but we were just born to not be dysfunctional in the (what we currently call euphemistically) 'preference'. To see that the key difference between a pedophile and a normal person is in fact in essence extremely minute. That is probably the real challenge for most people and what they can't acknowledge, because it hurts their feelings.
People just want to ban 'child porn' (which effectively means not only real porn with children but everything associating children in sexual contexts, such as cartoons) because it makes themselves feel better and they make up all sorts of ideas to support it. But the truth is that banning something abhorrent to your own perception, no matter if that perception is good or bad, doesn't improve anything by itself. If you take away the methadone from the heroin addict, he will even more so go out on the street and rob people to get his shit. What we seek is to eliminate socially and legally dysfunctional behavior. And you can't have that by just banning and rejecting everything you don't want to see or even hear and think of, which is by all likeliness the only basis for the people affected to be functional with.
Also in my opinion, we should revive unethical methods such as eugenics and forcing people on medication. Not for all people who are just pedophile, but for those who have clearly done criminal offenses that cannot be tolerated. Anti-androgens, aka temporary chemical castration, are known to greatly reduce sex drive and go with little very severe side-effects. Although they make men more dysfunctional and have a negative health impact. At least here, it is only allowed to be offered as a treatment option. But especially those who are more selfish than altruistic and less righteous than responsible will not take that option. We don't know how much genetics are involved, but especially because we have no evidence to indicate not a genetic component, and because genetics are always involved in personality traits and trends, reproduction should be prevented. Out of sheer pragmatics to prevent people who are prone to sexually abuse children (because their ancestors did) from evolving within the population.
But unrelatedly, I am generally much in favor of altering and improving the now defunct natural selection mechanism and genetic evolution of humans, so that is rather why I am also pro-eugenics in this case and this case only. At some point we will have to face the reality that the people living in the future will be the product of our reproductive behaviors in the present, and that the whole process is based on an inevitable physical reality which does not just magically work in a beneficial or neutral manner if entirely ignored and if we let it roam freely. To every positive outcome, there are always a great multiple of negative ones and that is where it will all go by chance. How we deal with that needs to be somehow figured out one day.
So anyway, if there was a "war" on pedophilia then we would already practice eugenics and chemical castration and look into real and realistic therapeutic and psychological approaches to fix or remove the people's problem. What it really is, is a "war on having to deal with anything that relates to pedophilia". People just don't want to perceive and hear of it, because it makes them sick. And anything that could lead into positive progression makes them even more sick, because it has to go in depth of the issue. They are not interested in fixing any of it. And being realistic it is not that big of a deal anyway, if you take the masses of other crimes that could be solved or prevented.
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who has the power of choice over all their actions
Everything after this is bullshit, because removing your stupid sarcasm makes this a true statement. You do have a choice, and you are responsible for it. End of story, kiddo. There is never going to be a magical dreamland where you can do whatever you want without having to deal with the consequences for it.
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Anti-androgens, aka temporary chemical castration, are known to greatly reduce sex drive and go with little very severe side-effects. Although they make men more dysfunctional and have a negative health impact. At least here, it is only allowed to be offered as a treatment option.
Do you want some of that for yourself? If so, just say so and stop projecting your identity onto pedophiles. It's sickening and so are the results of what they do to children.
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I can relate to pedophiles, because I exactly do know the consequences of sexual relationship withdrawal, if you are not the kind of person who was born to be able to deal with it well (for example, by being asexual or having a sufficiently low sex drive).
I do not project my identity into them. I am very sensitive to logic and arguments based on however irrational or insufficient concepts and that is why I will always tend to fixate on it and try to open peoples minds by having a discussion. Of course I do also want to know if everything I am thinking makes sense, but often people are just not willing to think and argue enough to match the depths of it.
People seem to have the idea, that a sensible subject which invokes negative emotional reactions in the majority of people, can validly and acceptably be judged about by irrational conclusions, that are complementing the irrational nature of the emotion. Because (exaggeratedly), our emotional perceptions are always the absolute truth, and we must fixate on how they truly make sense rather than realizing what is wrong with them.
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You sure don't seem to have a lot to do.
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I freelance from at home and am often doing multiple things at a time.
But work has not gone well lately.
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It shows.
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I have worked 28 of the last 30 days.
Work goes well for me. But the make me wear PPE.
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I have worked 28 of the last 30 days.
Work goes well for me. But the make me wear PPE.
See? This guy is an asshole, but he knows what matters to him.
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I have worked 28 of the last 30 days.
Work goes well for me. But the make me wear PPE.
See? This guy is an asshole, but he knows what matters to him.
i don't understand. The guy said that work hasn't been going well for him. The topic shifted. I was merely answering based on my life's experience. You are acting like a faggot. Stop fucking with me.
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I have worked 28 of the last 30 days.
Work goes well for me. But the make me wear PPE.
What kind of PPE, be specific. Don't let us guess if it is just some enforced shoes and a helmet or that you are covered in a hazmat suit. Is it like a burka, or does it leave room for some perving thoughts?
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I have worked 28 of the last 30 days.
Work goes well for me. But the make me wear PPE.
See? This guy is an asshole, but he knows what matters to him.
i don't understand. The guy said that work hasn't been going well for him. The topic shifted. I was merely answering based on my life's experience. You are acting like a faggot. Stop fucking with me.
NO YOU.
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I have worked 28 of the last 30 days.
Work goes well for me. But the make me wear PPE.
See? This guy is an asshole, but he knows what matters to him.
i don't understand. The guy said that work hasn't been going well for him. The topic shifted. I was merely answering based on my life's experience. You are acting like a faggot. Stop fucking with me.
NO YOU.
im being a faggot?
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I have worked 28 of the last 30 days.
Work goes well for me. But the make me wear PPE.
What kind of PPE, be specific. Don't let us guess if it is just some enforced shoes and a helmet or that you are covered in a hazmat suit. Is it like a burka, or does it leave room for some perving thoughts?
1. Steel toe anti slip boots: they give us a $200 shoe voucher each year
2. Hard hat
3. Safety vest with reflective striping
4. Durable pants
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I have worked 28 of the last 30 days.
Work goes well for me. But the make me wear PPE.
See? This guy is an asshole, but he knows what matters to him.
i don't understand. The guy said that work hasn't been going well for him. The topic shifted. I was merely answering based on my life's experience. You are acting like a faggot. Stop fucking with me.
NO YOU.
im being a faggot?
You're being THE faggot. :laugh:
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I have worked 28 of the last 30 days.
Work goes well for me. But the make me wear PPE.
See? This guy is an asshole, but he knows what matters to him.
i don't understand. The guy said that work hasn't been going well for him. The topic shifted. I was merely answering based on my life's experience. You are acting like a faggot. Stop fucking with me.
NO YOU.
im being a faggot?
You're being THE faggot. :laugh:
you are my sub. :mischief:
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I have worked 28 of the last 30 days.
Work goes well for me. But the make me wear PPE.
See? This guy is an asshole, but he knows what matters to him.
i don't understand. The guy said that work hasn't been going well for him. The topic shifted. I was merely answering based on my life's experience. You are acting like a faggot. Stop fucking with me.
NO YOU.
im being a faggot?
You're being THE faggot. :laugh:
you are my sub. :mischief:
If god was real, I wouldn't even be HIS sub. To hell with that damn shit.
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You and me both. :LOL: I actually think it's kind of hilarious how so much of Christianity has parallels with BDSM.
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It does, doesn't it? And even back in the day priests used to march through town, whipping themselves in public.
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Jesus set a good example.
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By turning the other cheek?
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:lol1: I actually laughed in the theater when I watched the passion of Christ, and everyone was acting like they were going to beat me up or something. I couldn't help it though, because that has to be one of the most ridiculous stories in the bible. Plus the fact that we had all paid like fifteen bucks to watch what was supposedly the nicest guy ever get tortured for two hours.
That's just hilarious to me.
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:lol1: I actually laughed in the theater when I watched the passion of Christ, and everyone was acting like they were going to beat me up or something. I couldn't help it though, because that has to be one of the most ridiculous stories in the bible. Plus the fact that we had all paid like fifteen bucks to watch what was supposedly the nicest guy ever get tortured for two hours.
That's just hilarious to me.
Passion of the Christ was fucking hilarious
In fact, some of the gory details are of a caliber I've only seen in splatters - like the hooked whips tearing his skin off wtf :D
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:lol1: I actually laughed in the theater when I watched the passion of Christ, and everyone was acting like they were going to beat me up or something. I couldn't help it though, because that has to be one of the most ridiculous stories in the bible. Plus the fact that we had all paid like fifteen bucks to watch what was supposedly the nicest guy ever get tortured for two hours.
That's just hilarious to me.
Passion of the Christ was fucking hilarious
In fact, some of the gory details are of a caliber I've only seen in splatters - like the hooked whips tearing his skin off wtf :D
That shit was ridiculous. I thought people were weird for not laughing, personally.
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:lol1: I actually laughed in the theater when I watched the passion of Christ, and everyone was acting like they were going to beat me up or something. I couldn't help it though, because that has to be one of the most ridiculous stories in the bible. Plus the fact that we had all paid like fifteen bucks to watch what was supposedly the nicest guy ever get tortured for two hours.
That's just hilarious to me.
Passion of the Christ was fucking hilarious
In fact, some of the gory details are of a caliber I've only seen in splatters - like the hooked whips tearing his skin off wtf :D
That shit was ridiculous. I thought people were weird for not laughing, personally.
There are two recent-ish movies, where I really thought "oh boy" and seriously considered the mental health of those who wrote it: Passion of the Christ, and Rambo (4)
Both were a shock-fest of violence :D
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I didn't give a damn about the violence in the passion, really. Its just the "message" it was supposed to be sending to everyone. LOOK AT ALL HE WENT THROUGH FOR YOUR SINS.
I'm rolling my eyes over here, thinking "Ohh ok. So you were there, right? You knew the guy? He was your neighbor, along with Mr Rodgers?" I mean the guy may not have even existed, and people are creaming their pants while watching him get tortured to death for TWO HOURS, because he allegedly did it to make sure they get to life with sky pappy.
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I didn't give a damn about the violence in the passion, really. Its just the "message" it was supposed to be sending to everyone. LOOK AT ALL HE WENT THROUGH FOR YOUR SINS.
I'm rolling my eyes over here, thinking "Ohh ok. So you were there, right? You knew the guy? He was your neighbor, along with Mr Rodgers?" I mean the guy may not have even existed, and people are creaming their pants while watching him get tortured to death for TWO HOURS, because he allegedly did it to make sure they get to life with sky pappy.
I guess I'm the other way around - I don't give a shit about "the message", I'm European, I never gave a shit, nobody I know ever gave a shit, and we were never taught or hinted to giving a shit about Jesus ;D
So... we're all there for "Let's see about this hyped up torture-movie!" :D
Also, it is kindov like making a hyper-realistic depiction of the death of Balder or something.
Religious people "no, no, no, that is not a good comparison at ALL! Norse mythology is just mythology - but Jesus was REAL! REAL REAL REAL I SAY!!!!"
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I honestly don't see the problem with a couple of tweens discovering that kind of shit. I mean they're putting themselves in danger of teen pregnancy, and i'd explain it to them and whip their asses for it. But ARRESTING them? What the fuck?
They weren't even tweens, the girl was 9, the boy was 8 or so, in that one case, she was exploring his wee wee...
I mean...
What pisses me off most about this - is that everyone pretends like its some secret. Like, since we don't talk about it - we cannot admit that it exists - even when it gets real serious.
When POLICE arrives, it's time for someone to go "hold it everyone... kids... they're KIDS EXPLORING... genitals. You never did that?"
"I NEVER DID THAT! GOD WOULD PUNISH ME IF I DID!"
"well, then you're a douchebag. RELEASE THE KID AND LET HER GO HOME TO HER DINNER FFS."
I never did any of that when I was a child. Therefore nobody should. :M :trollface: