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Title: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Queen Victoria on August 11, 2013, 05:00:29 PM
In the horrible situation that someone you love has been raped or viciously attacked so that they have a permanent injury would you take revenge on the person responsible?

Although it would give me a great deal of immediate personal satisfaction, I'd probably not seek revenge.  I'm not about to spend time in prison for killing a scuzzball.  I'm worth more than that. 

Even more importantly I feel I would be deserting the person I love.  Even though it would be damn hard I would choose to be there for them, consoling them, whatever.  Damn hard.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Adam on August 11, 2013, 05:06:46 PM
Can't say. I think revenge in this kind of situation would usually be based on how you reacted in the moment. Emotionally, you're gonna be angry. I dunno how I would deal with that anger. I have a feeling I wouldn't react violently unless the rapist/attacker was right there in front of me when I found out, or soon afterwards. But I don't know how much of that would be down to me making a conscious decision not to take revenge.

If you make a rational choice, obviously the right one is to focus on the person who's been raped/attacked, rather than on seeking revenge yourself. But emotions can sometimes overrule things like that when something this bad has happened, so I can't say for sure. I would hope I would have the self control though.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Beardy McFuckface on August 11, 2013, 05:09:13 PM
If I could get away with it, I would most likely kill the person in cold blood. Probably slowly torture them first.

I'm the same for burglers, muggers etc. - If I had a gun, I'd shoot to kill without thinking much about it.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: skyblue1 on August 11, 2013, 05:13:29 PM
Would hope that the courts would take care of it

Have to admit if it happened in my house,

they would be dead

Or I would be
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: 'Butterflies' on August 11, 2013, 05:13:59 PM
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In the horrible situation that someone you love has been raped or viciously attacked so that they have a permanent injury would you take revenge on the person responsible?

In that situation, then yes. I would get someone to destroy that person for me.

I doubt if I would take the risk of hiring someone to kill them, but I would get people to constantly hospitalize them.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Queen Victoria on August 11, 2013, 05:14:52 PM
If I could get away with it, I would most likely kill the person in cold blood. Probably slowly torture them first.

I'm the same for burglers, muggers etc. - If I had a gun, I'd shoot to kill without thinking much about it.

(Tangential to the discussion)  I don't remember the detail, but just this week (in Houston?) a woman ran down and killed someone who was carrying a gun. She saw him approaching a group of teenagers.  However, he was carrying a innocuous gun like a dart gun.  Rash decision, bad outcome. 
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: 'andersom' on August 11, 2013, 05:17:24 PM
When caught in the act, I would be fierce, no mercy, anything to help the one I love.

But, afterwards, what is revenge going to do? I would want them to get punished, and taken away from society so that they would not harm someone else, but, no need for personal revenge. Not for the sake of the victim either. I would feel like abandoning the one I love, like QV wrote.

The revenge sensation hardly ever comes over me, and the times it did, it was soon gone.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Jack on August 11, 2013, 05:17:51 PM
If ever faced with such a situation, I would hope I wouldn't stoop to the level of the wrongdoer. It's a really hard thing to hypothesize; people never really know what reaction extreme circumstances like that can produce.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: skyblue1 on August 11, 2013, 05:23:26 PM
When caught in the act, I would be fierce, no mercy, anything to help the one I love.

But, afterwards, what is revenge going to do? I would want them to get punished, and taken away from society so that they would not harm someone else, but, no need for personal revenge. Not for the sake of the victim either. I would feel like abandoning the one I love, like QV wrote.

The revenge sensation hardly ever comes over me, and the times it did, it was soon gone.
nice post
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Semicolon on August 11, 2013, 05:52:33 PM
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In the horrible situation that someone you love has been raped or viciously attacked so that they have a permanent injury would you take revenge on the person responsible?

In that situation, then yes. I would get someone to destroy that person for me.

I doubt if I would take the risk of hiring someone to kill them, but I would get people to constantly hospitalize them.

Why not do it yourself?
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: 'Butterflies' on August 11, 2013, 05:58:23 PM
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In the horrible situation that someone you love has been raped or viciously attacked so that they have a permanent injury would you take revenge on the person responsible?

In that situation, then yes. I would get someone to destroy that person for me.

I doubt if I would take the risk of hiring someone to kill them, but I would get people to constantly hospitalize them.

Why not do it yourself?

Im 5 foot 2, and a girl.

If someone raped, or viciously assaulted someone, it's unlikely that they could easily be beaten up by me.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Semicolon on August 11, 2013, 06:02:30 PM
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In the horrible situation that someone you love has been raped or viciously attacked so that they have a permanent injury would you take revenge on the person responsible?

In that situation, then yes. I would get someone to destroy that person for me.

I doubt if I would take the risk of hiring someone to kill them, but I would get people to constantly hospitalize them.

Why not do it yourself?

Im 5 foot 2, and a girl.

If someone raped, or viciously assaulted someone, it's unlikely that they could easily be beaten up by me.

God created man; Sam Colt made them equal. ;)

Have confidence in your abilities, Butterflies. :viking:
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: TheoK on August 11, 2013, 06:09:49 PM
If I could kill or mutilate them and getting away with it: absolutely. If it were my mother or someone else very close I might do it even if I couldn't get away with it.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 11, 2013, 09:04:01 PM
In the horrible situation that someone you love has been raped or viciously attacked so that they have a permanent injury would you take revenge on the person responsible?

Although it would give me a great deal of immediate personal satisfaction, I'd probably not seek revenge.  I'm not about to spend time in prison for killing a scuzzball.  I'm worth more than that. 

Even more importantly I feel I would be deserting the person I love.  Even though it would be damn hard I would choose to be there for them, consoling them, whatever.  Damn hard.

Yes and I would be brutal
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Lestat on August 11, 2013, 10:55:33 PM
No shit.

I wouldn't have any ethical, moral or personal reasons not to crucify a rapist, or drip concentrated acid into a barrel full of dilute acid, slowly increasing the strength (and probably temperature), with them restrained within, drop, by drop, by drop, feet first, over as long a period as proves survivable with medical attention.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: El on August 12, 2013, 05:00:53 AM
I would not.  I wouldn't have faith that I'd be able to pull it off, and it would not be worth the jail time.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: AspieMomma on August 12, 2013, 06:32:18 AM
It really depends on the situation. I would not hesitate to make someone's life a living hell. Death would be too good for such a person. Ruining their life would be more satisfying, and probably more legal!

In the heat of the moment though, I honestly don't know if I could keep myself from harming someone who hurt someone I love.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Icequeen on August 12, 2013, 08:18:02 AM
It would depend on what was done and the manner in how they did it.

An accident or sheer stupidity is one thing, but to hurt or kill someone, plan it, derive some sort of pleasure from it...is another.



Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: odeon on August 12, 2013, 11:11:00 PM
I most likely would, and s/he would suffer.

A lot.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Pyraxis on August 12, 2013, 11:54:46 PM
For people who said they'd do it, how would you avoid being caught?
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 13, 2013, 12:18:35 AM
I don't know that I would really mull over premeditating the ultimate attack. More who was it, how can I best get at him to hurt him or her very badly. If there were multiple people, how can I best get at all of them.
Fucking them up, not, not getting caught would be the goal. Of conures not getting caught would be better.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Al Swearegen on August 13, 2013, 12:20:42 AM
Perhaps as clarification, I don't think i could say ok let's just wait for an opportunity. I would like to be that person, but i am not. I could definitely sit on it if I knew of a specific time that they were particularly vulnerable, but it would have to be weighed up very carefully with my want to square the ledger earlier, and it would have to be specific. .
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Parts on August 13, 2013, 05:55:31 AM
I would hope the criminal justice system would take care of it, still even then I would strive to make things difficult for them at every opportunity.  If it didn't yes I would.  As to getting caught,  I have great patience and would wait and watch for a time and a place where I would maximize my chances of success it could be years
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Lestat on August 13, 2013, 06:04:33 AM
Its more likely that I'd kill if it were in the heat of the moment, like, if I were to bump into a rape in progress, chances are I'd rip the rapist's knob off and leave them to bleed out, or cut their scrotum off and pour chilli sauce and powdered caustic soda all over their bare, skinless bollocks, and just leave them to scream their lungs bloody.

If I found out ex post facto, then oh boy, the poor fucking bastard would wish themselves never born. I don't think I'd kill them, at least not straight away, but more like, say, operate upon them, with no anaesthetic, castrate them, and then go into their heads. And remove their frontal cortex, trash their  nigrostriatal tract also targeting Broca's and Wernicke's areas, controlling speech and writing comprehension. To leave somebody an aphasic, agraphic, parkinson's disease-afflicted, vertually paralysed shell of a person, capable only of suffering, unable to feel pleasure or happiness, perhaps damage their limbic system to leave them an emotional wreck too.

And of course, remove their eyes using concentrated sulfuric acid to burn them out, cut out their tongues, and hammer their fingers into bloody pulp, crushing their finger bones to mush, covering the wounds in dog waste to ensure infection. And then leave them, after branding their forehead, back, torso, stomach, arms, legs etc. with the word 'rapist'


No friend or loved one of mine would go through that, and the person responsible  get away with it. Crucifixion and flaying alive would be a blessing compared to what I would inflict, were it premeditated after discovering that a friend was raped. My vengeance would be agonizing, slow, drawn out and terrible to behold. I would make the person wish they could speak or sign or write to beg for death. Only for that to be made impossible courtesy of said anaesthetic-free brain surgery..but all they would be able to do, is silently scream, and scream, and scream and silently fucking scream inside; for the remainder of their natural lifespan. And of course, severing the tendons, messily, with a rusty blunt drill bit in their hamstrings, ankles, elbows, fingers, toes etc. So between that and the inflicted parkinson's they would be unable to kill themselves, but just be forced to sit there silently screaming in agony, shitting and pissing themselves and having no choice but to lie their in their own bodily waste.


I hate rapists. I know what it does to people, I have known it happen to people I value greatly. I still, and probably always will feel bad, for failing to prevent a rape of a friend, because I chose to go to one of two parties hosted by the girl's friends, and went instead of the one she went to, to the one hosted locally by someone I was friends with as well as her.

If only I had gone to the other one. I couldn't have known, but still. I wish I had gone to the other party so I could have executed the raping piece of shite bastard grandfather fuck. The girl wouldn't tell me who it was or where to find them later after she came to me and told me what happened. Probably because she knows me, and knows that while by nature I am a kind, gentle, caring person to those who have not earnt otherwise, but also knows what I am capable of, given a damn good reason, she knows, exactly the sorts of things I am capable of doing to somebody, without the slightest hint of regret, remorse or squeamishness.

By nature, as long as somebody hasn't actively earned pain, I do not seek to dish it out, nor do I go round treading on people's toes so to speak,  BUT, anybody who would mistreat my friends and loved ones, or abuses animals, or fucks kids. They, will find me to be one stygian ice-cold fucking bastard, who will not give up, back down or allow them to beg forgiveness.

I am every bit capable of waiting for years, even decades, before acting. To make sure that the stench of suspicion does not follow me around afterwards, I have a decent knowledge of forensic technology and procedures, and am, unfortunately for any such piece of muslim-sewage, patient, methodical, thorough and very creative. And in the case of such subhuman pieces of shite, not in the slightest inclined to grant forgiveness.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Icequeen on August 13, 2013, 08:20:14 AM
For people who said they'd do it, how would you avoid being caught?

I live in a very rural area. Get disorientated and get lost and you might not be found for weeks or a hunter stumbles across your bones 5 years later around here.

Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: MLA on August 13, 2013, 10:14:39 AM
Forgiveness is the best revenge.  Fantasizing about all the awful things you would do to someone is just giving that person far too much valuable real estate in your head.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: TheoK on August 13, 2013, 10:34:39 AM
For people who said they'd do it, how would you avoid being caught?

That's the tricky part of it  :-\
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: odeon on August 13, 2013, 11:11:48 PM
For people who said they'd do it, how would you avoid being caught?

Since I don't know the specifics of the situation, it's hard to give a good answer. I suppose I'd try not to be seen or leave behind a body.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Bastet on August 13, 2013, 11:33:54 PM
I'd do it if I wouldn't get caught. I would cut off their penis and throw it in a garbage disposal and sew his gash so he wouldn't bleed to death. . I'd give him dog shit breast implants. And then tattoo " free sex" on his forhead then on his back." I am a child rapist. Punish me." And on his ass cheeks "nsert here with and arrow pointing at his anus and handcuff and blinfold him and drop him off at the worst part of town.

As you can see, I put a lot of thought into this. :P
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Genesis on August 13, 2013, 11:59:30 PM
I was taught that Revenge isn't necessary... yet in some circumstances.... maybe.  :grrr:
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: odeon on August 14, 2013, 11:12:57 PM
Hurt my loved ones and it is necessary.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: sg1008 on August 15, 2013, 01:04:00 AM
In the horrible situation that someone you love has been raped or viciously attacked so that they have a permanent injury would you take revenge on the person responsible?

Although it would give me a great deal of immediate personal satisfaction, I'd probably not seek revenge.  I'm not about to spend time in prison for killing a scuzzball.  I'm worth more than that. 

Even more importantly I feel I would be deserting the person I love.  Even though it would be damn hard I would choose to be there for them, consoling them, whatever.  Damn hard.

Depends... on when I learn about, and when I meet the person who did it. I would probably not seek them out, but if they ever crossed my path they would get beat senseless. I would carry around a blunt instrument specifically for this.

EDIT: deleted a very descriptive and violent fantasy...
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: sg1008 on August 15, 2013, 01:14:41 AM
^^^^
Would I actually do any of that?

EDIT: nothing I wrote here matters because i deleted the description above...
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 15, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
  I have savage thoughts when I am pissed off, and for good or ill, I get angrier about abuse of animals rather than abuse of people.
  It isn't that I think animals are more important, I just get more emotional about them.
  That said, my savagery tends to stay inside my head; I don't know if it would emerge into action under any circumstances.  :apondering:
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: sg1008 on August 15, 2013, 11:42:40 AM
Watch "The Seasoning House" for an excellent revenge thriller. Although, I wouldn't have called it "revenge"...more like 'survival'.

Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Queen Victoria on August 15, 2013, 04:43:24 PM
  I have savage thoughts when I am pissed off, and for good or ill, I get angrier about abuse of animals rather than abuse of people.
  It isn't that I think animals are more important, I just get more emotional about them.
  That said, my savagery tends to stay inside my head; I don't know if it would emerge into action under any circumstances.  :apondering:


So that wasn't you in the viral Youtube video of Black Friday's Mayhem?  Sure looked like you rolling people over to get at the sales.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: "couldbecousin" on August 15, 2013, 04:49:26 PM
  I have savage thoughts when I am pissed off, and for good or ill, I get angrier about abuse of animals rather than abuse of people.
  It isn't that I think animals are more important, I just get more emotional about them.
  That said, my savagery tends to stay inside my head; I don't know if it would emerge into action under any circumstances.  :apondering:


So that wasn't you in the viral Youtube video of Black Friday's Mayhem?  Sure looked like you rolling people over to get at the sales.

  In my defense, they were blocking my access to some rather fine imported butter cookies!  :M
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: BlueGriffyn on August 15, 2013, 04:56:05 PM
If the person were dealt with by the courts sufficiently and locked away from the rest of society, I wouldn't pursue vengeance.  I wouldn't want to waste my life away on such an awful person.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: odeon on August 16, 2013, 01:16:08 PM
If the person were dealt with by the courts sufficiently and locked away from the rest of society, I wouldn't pursue vengeance.  I wouldn't want to waste my life away on such an awful person.

Touch my loved ones and there is nothing a civilised court can do that would be even close to sufficient. It would be my mission to make what remains of their lives a living hell.
Title: Re: Revenge or Not?
Post by: Eclair on August 17, 2013, 11:23:16 PM
No one can predict how they will react to violence against a loved one. Ever.