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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: McGiver on May 05, 2013, 05:10:56 PM

Title: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 05, 2013, 05:10:56 PM
If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 05, 2013, 07:03:51 PM
The more you can increase FEAR of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you CONTROL all the people.


Fear is to control.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Pyraxis on May 05, 2013, 08:10:29 PM
If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.

Think I'll steal that.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 05, 2013, 08:21:14 PM
Why don't you google a Chomsky quote and share one.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Queen Victoria on May 05, 2013, 09:47:43 PM
Here's some quotes I didn't even have to look up or even know who he is.

Where's my coffee?
It's raining right now.
Please sit down.
Are you sure?
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 05, 2013, 09:55:29 PM
All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.

Vote and consume
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Pyraxis on May 05, 2013, 10:05:07 PM
Why don't you google a Chomsky quote and share one.

Okay.

Quote
The U.S. and its Western allies are sure to do whatever they can to prevent authentic democracy in the Arab world. To understand why, it is only necessary to look at the studies of Arab opinion conducted by U.S. polling agencies. Though barely reported, they are certainly known to planners. They reveal that by overwhelming majorities, Arabs regard the U.S. and Israel as the major threats they face: the U.S. is so regarded by 90% of Egyptians, in the region generally by over 75%. Some Arabs regard Iran as a threat: 10%. Opposition to U.S. policy is so strong that a majority believes that security would be improved if Iran had nuclear weapons -- in Egypt, 80%. Other figures are similar. If public opinion were to influence policy, the U.S. not only would not control the region, but would be expelled from it, along with its allies, undermining fundamental principles of global dominance.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 05, 2013, 10:12:42 PM
In the US, there is basically one party - the business party. It has two factions, called Democrats and Republicans, which are somewhat different but carry out variations on the same policies. By and large, I am opposed to those policies. As is most of the population.

The duopoly representing corporations and the oligarchy.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Pyraxis on May 05, 2013, 10:17:46 PM
"While understanding the world may be good for the soul (not meant to be disparaging), it doesn’t help anyone else, or oneself very much either for that matter, unless it leads to action."
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Pyraxis on May 05, 2013, 10:23:53 PM
"Any person who is intellectually alive changes his ideas. If anyone at a university is teaching the same thing they were teaching five years ago, either the field is dead, or they haven’t been thinking."
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 05, 2013, 10:26:22 PM
He's got thousands of quotes.  He's a brilliant mind.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: odeon on May 05, 2013, 11:11:47 PM
I've always been somewhat weary of him. He's got a great mind but he's something of a Randy in politics.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Pyraxis on May 05, 2013, 11:12:58 PM
What do you mean by a Randy?
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: odeon on May 05, 2013, 11:15:27 PM
Our Randy. The ginseng one.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 06, 2013, 06:15:41 AM
He cuts to the chase.  Exposes the lies. Believes that he system cannot be reformed.  Is an anarchist.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 06, 2013, 06:17:57 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky)
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Pyraxis on May 06, 2013, 06:41:07 AM
Our Randy. The ginseng one.

But what does that have to do with a guy who writes political commentary?  :asthing: Are you saying his commentary is as inane as Randy's?
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Al Swearegen on May 06, 2013, 06:51:26 AM
Randy was batshit crazy and used to say stuff that almost looked like it was English but was really a dialect of crazy saying crazy things for crazy reasons

"Ginger snaps  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: I just took a ginseng suppository. I used to spend all day wanking in my basement but now through self-improvement I only wank half a day. Herp. You aspies have to improve yourself. I can only teach you so much   :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: I snort ground ginger root. Derp."

Shit like this ^^^^^^ is not normal
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: odeon on May 06, 2013, 09:01:37 AM
I did say "something of a". I also said "great mind". :P

No, I don't mean as nonsensical, deluded, etc, I simply mean that to me he has frequently felt like as if he was all over the place, thought-wise.

Hmm. Not sure that clarifies anything.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 06, 2013, 10:27:31 AM
I did say "something of a". I also said "great mind". :P

No, I don't mean as nonsensical, deluded, etc, I simply mean that to me he has frequently felt like as if he was all over the place, thought-wise.

Hmm. Not sure that clarifies anything.
noam Chomsky bi polar?
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: odeon on May 06, 2013, 10:49:47 AM
I did say "something of a". I also said "great mind". :P

No, I don't mean as nonsensical, deluded, etc, I simply mean that to me he has frequently felt like as if he was all over the place, thought-wise.

Hmm. Not sure that clarifies anything.
noam Chomsky bi polar?

Nah, probably just me being too spazzy.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: TheoK on May 06, 2013, 10:51:50 AM
He is against society, ergo he is  :viking:
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Scrapheap on May 06, 2013, 11:27:31 AM
He cuts to the chase.  Exposes the lies. Believes that he system cannot be reformed.  Is an anarchist.

 :indeed:
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Calavera on May 06, 2013, 05:39:14 PM
Yes, since he is an anarchist and so cool, dedicate a whole thread just for him. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: skyblue1 on May 06, 2013, 05:42:34 PM
I have trouble reading him

We arent on the same wavelength

I have too many WTF moments trying to get through it

Just sampling a line or two, here and there, isnt as bad
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 06, 2013, 06:25:45 PM
Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Dexter Morgan on May 06, 2013, 06:38:11 PM
He is against society, ergo he is  :viking:
He's a tenured professor who can say anything without reprocussion.  How is that brave?
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 06, 2013, 07:12:50 PM
 :asthing:
He is against society, ergo he is  :viking:
He's a tenured professor who can say anything without reprocussion.  How is that brave?
id like to give you a new sig: does not play well with others.
My kinda guy.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: Dexter Morgan on May 06, 2013, 07:33:32 PM
:asthing:
He is against society, ergo he is  :viking:
He's a tenured professor who can say anything without reprocussion.  How is that brave?
id like to give you a new sig: does not play well with others.
My kinda guy.
I enjoy being a contrarian.  It drives some of my Facebook friends nuts, but seeing them make political statements only to have people respond with "ditto" replies drives me nuts.  What is the point of free speech if you are never in a position to defend it?
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 06, 2013, 07:44:12 PM
:asthing:
He is against society, ergo he is  :viking:
He's a tenured professor who can say anything without reprocussion.  How is that brave?
id like to give you a new sig: does not play well with others.
My kinda guy.
I enjoy being a contrarian.  It drives some of my Facebook friends nuts, but seeing them make political statements only to have people respond with "ditto" replies drives me nuts.  What is the point of free speech if you are never in a position to defend it?
sounds like you are ready for the anti philosophy revolution.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 06, 2013, 08:19:35 PM
The intellectual tradition is one of servility to power, and if I didn't betray it I'd be ashamed of myself.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 06, 2013, 09:05:09 PM
The public is not to see where power lies, how it shapes policy, and for what ends. Rather, people are to hate and fear one another.
Title: Re: Noam Chomsky quotes
Post by: McGiver on May 07, 2013, 11:07:56 AM
I have often thought that if a rational Fascist dictatorship were to exist, then it would choose the American system.