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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: McGiver on April 02, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
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Congratulations!
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Happy world autism awareness day.
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I came out of the closet RE: my autism on facebook today, I am not sure how I feel about it
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I came out of the closet RE: my autism on facebook today, I am not sure how I feel about it
friend me. Robert-bobby Trimmer
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I don't tell anyone outside these websites that i'm an assburger. ::)
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I don't tell anyone outside these websites that i'm an assburger. ::)
you know a lot of oblivious people.
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I don't tell anyone outside these websites that i'm an assburger. ::)
you know a lot of oblivious people.
DENIAL
Don't Even Notice I Am Lying
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I would sometimes want to disclose my dx. It would help, I think. Problem is, I don't know that but I do know that it's something that can never be undone.
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I would sometimes want to disclose my dx. It would help, I think. Problem is, I don't know that but I do know that it's something that can never be undone.
certainly there are those that suspect?
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I don't tell anyone outside these websites that i'm an assburger. ::)
you know a lot of oblivious people.
DENIAL
Don't Even Notice I Am Lying
Yeah i'm a big fat liar. What are you gonna do about it? :zoinks:
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I would sometimes want to disclose my dx. It would help, I think. Problem is, I don't know that but I do know that it's something that can never be undone.
certainly there are those that suspect?
Yes, I'm pretty sure there are. There's a workmate who I work with a lot that knows my son is autistic and I think it's likely he's drawn a few conclusions.
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I would sometimes want to disclose my dx. It would help, I think. Problem is, I don't know that but I do know that it's something that can never be undone.
certainly there are those that suspect?
Yes, I'm pretty sure there are. There's a workmate who I work with a lot that knows my son is autistic and I think it's likely he's drawn a few conclusions.
Funny, I am out. Getting diagnosed during a huge break-down kinda makes that happen automatically. I find it not hard, in many occasions to tell that I am an aspie. I find it way harder to disclose that my daughter is on the spectrum. I can stand up for myself. I don't want people to make assumptions about her, without knowing her, or without her knowing.
It does make it harder to find a new job. Also because I fall between the cracks. Disability income, for disability existing since childhood, is used here to get people into a job. When I applied for it, the man told me I was exactly the kind of person the income was meant for, but, due to some technicalities, I would not get it. That leaves me without a paid job, so far. Somehow all the years I worked without knowing I was autistic have lost their value, for employers. Crisis is not helping either. End of this year, my income contact will try to get me into some other way to get me placed somewhere. Till then, I prove that I can work, by volunteering. And she will use that as proof that hiring me is worth a shot.
I do know people who got a good job, fitting their interest and education, after disclosing their autism, because they did have the "disability from childhood" income safety net. It takes away the risk of employers to hire someone who might be a risk to hire.
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We don't usually reveal our son's dx but an explanation is sometimes needed or people will get the wrong idea. He is not very good at pretending to be anything else. I wish he was because people are nowhere near as accepting as they should. :(
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I know what you mean. The former school of my oldest ditched her, after an Epstein Bar like virus. It lasted too long for them. Clearly it wasn't a virus, but the dreaded autism doing that.
Now she is in a school where they accept her as she is, and try to learn her how to deal with the things she finds hard. Just 20 minutes a week, but the difference is massive. And she is now and then fooling around with some other teens in class in a fun way. The difference between this year and last year is massive. And it is not just the virus making that difference. Had it not been officially known that she was autistic, the former school would never have ditched her. But, without the disclosure, she would not get the support she now gets either.
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I would sometimes want to disclose my dx. It would help, I think. Problem is, I don't know that but I do know that it's something that can never be undone.
Agreed telling people at times is a dangerous thing especially when the news focuses on people like the Newtown shooter. I just let people draw their own conclusions at my eccentric behaviors and explain any sensory things they might trigger and why they should not
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Autism is the next civil rights issue?
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You know this is pretty obvious, but it never occurred to me I guess. People fight over some pretty stupid fucking stuff don't they?
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They fight over pretty much everything.
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It s conservatism. Protection of the stays quo. Autism rights are not fully recognized. That will change. Let the quirky have their quirks and stop the bullying NOW!
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It s conservatism. Protection of the stays quo. Autism rights are not fully recognized. That will change. Let the quirky have their quirks and stop the bullying NOW!
We are like any other minority. There's just not enough of us. It's the same problem every other minority group faces. Not enough of us to, erm, fight back.
And "fight back" is the wrong way to put it. How do you fight indifference?
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It s conservatism. Protection of the stays quo. Autism rights are not fully recognized. That will change. Let the quirky have their quirks and stop the bullying NOW!
We are like any other minority. There's just not enough of us. It's the same problem every other minority group faces. Not enough of us to, erm, fight back.
And "fight back" is the wrong way to put it. How do you fight indifference?
I've researched homosexuality and it seems that the number is 1-40 are gay. That's just 2 1/2% yet their rights are quickly becoming a reality all over the world.
What is autism number?
Coming out and organization have been a huge factor fir gay people's civil rights. The more people who came out the more people began to realize that they not only know one they also live a gay.
The indifference begins to change once a majority of people begin to. Realize that they love a person who struggles in the minority.
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Gay rights weren't a quick reality, and still not a full reality. Autism has only been hot in the public eye for 15 years tops.
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Gay rights weren't a quick reality, and still not a full reality. Autism has only been hot in the public eye for 15 years tops.
imho, gay rights have taken far too long and still have a long ways to go. But, if you were to check public opinion polls over the last decade then you would conclude that they have moved fast of late.
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That's true, of recent. It's hard to compare the two. Autism awareness has been, and will be, a quicker process because people can't make it moral/religious. Disability rights are different.
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Civil rights. I just can't seem to understand why this term even has to exist, no matter how much research I do. No matter how much I try to understand the motive for trying to instill one's own code upon the entire world, even their "image" on the entire world, I can't seem to get it.
How can it be this way? What do people really want when they act like that? Is it really just as simple as their desire to create a planet filled with their own clones, or what? WTF IS THIS SHIT?
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That's true, of recent. It's hard to compare the two. Autism awareness has been, and will be, a quicker process because people can't make it moral/religious. Disability rights are different.
Might be, but one big problem is that your average autistic person is probably less verbal than your average gay.
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That's true, of recent. It's hard to compare the two. Autism awareness has been, and will be, a quicker process because people can't make it moral/religious. Disability rights are different.
Might be, but one big problem is that your average autistic person is probably less verbal than your average gay.
I hear the chant: we're autie, not naughty, get used to it.
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Might be, but one big problem is that your average autistic person is probably less verbal than your average gay.
It's more about political voice. Autism is fortunate to have someone like Ne'eman to serve on the national council of disability. He's done some really important things. There's going to be more like him because aspies fight for autistics as a whole; it's a young disorder with many exceptional young minds. Of course only looking at this from a US perspective.
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He's the guy who sees autism as a neurological difference, right?
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Yes, one of those guys.
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He's the guy who sees autism as a neurological difference, right?
Well it is. But that doesn't make us privileged, or special. Whether you're "disabled" or not you still have to get off your ass and work hard at it to make your way in life.
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He's the guy who sees autism as a neurological difference, right?
Well it is. But that doesn't make us privileged, or special. Whether you're "disabled" or not you still have to get off your ass and work hard at it to make your way in life.
Does he state it does make us privileged or special? Or that it disqualificates by default to find a job and work hard?
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He's the guy who sees autism as a neurological difference, right?
Well it is. But that doesn't make us privileged, or special. Whether you're "disabled" or not you still have to get off your ass and work hard at it to make your way in life.
Does he state it does make us privileged or special? Or that it disqualificates by default to find a job and work hard?
I would hope to GOD not. Only thing that would excuse you from that is being like a paraplegic, (which dr hawkings sill manages to get around), or having ll your libs blown off in a war or something, or just all around unable to think and reason. Like being a fucking human vegetable.
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ASAN (the org Ne'eman founded) has a website for this month:
http://www.autismacceptancemonth.com/ (http://www.autismacceptancemonth.com/)
Autism Acceptance Month
You can see what they say about autism on there...here's a snippet:
• What is autism?
Autism is a developmental
disability which affects
language and communication,
sensory processing and motor
skills, cognition, and social
interaction
• What does that mean?
The autistic brain develops differently from birth. This means that autism
is just another way of seeing the world. The different ways the autistic
brain develops effect an autistic person's language and communication,
cognition, sensory processing, motor control, and social behaviors in
certain predictable ways. All of these differences, together, make up a
developmental disability we call "autism." Autism is disabling because our
society is not designed to work for people with autistic brains.
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He's the guy who sees autism as a neurological difference, right?
Well it is. But that doesn't make us privileged, or special. Whether you're "disabled" or not you still have to get off your ass and work hard at it to make your way in life.
A difference rather than a neurological *issue* was what I meant. Yes, it is a difference but it is very frequently a disability because it makes interacting with others far more difficult. And yes, it should never be allowed to be an excuse. You should do your best anyway.
But as with other disabilities, if it is severe enough you may need help and that is when it becomes a disability rather than a difference, and that is where I disagree with the idealistic airheads that want the world to adjust instead.
The world will not adjust if your are blind. It may sometimes equip zebra crossings with boxes that beep but it will not actually care and braille will never be the preferred script.
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What rights do we need that we don't have?
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I think bullying is a common theme. And an event that could be changed. For starters.
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That's not exactly a right.
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There are right to's and right from's.
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What rights do we need that we don't have?
All kinds, but those rights are not exclusive to us.
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That's not exactly a right.
But it is. You have a right to be accepted the way you are. The opposite of bullying, really.
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idealistic airheads that want the world to adjust instead.
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I love you man.
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:eyelash:
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And you just changed your avatar. Cool!
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Mmhm. :green:
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Felix diem stultorum! :nerdy: