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Title: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: bodie on November 10, 2012, 07:53:39 AM
Asylum is usually considered if a person is likely to suffer harm due to their race or political views.  In May 2011 Uganda attempted to pass a bill making homosexuality punishable by death,  further proof that  many parts of the world are not safe for LGBT people.  Is it grounds on which asylum should be considered?
Title: Re: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: odeon on November 10, 2012, 09:09:39 AM
Yes, it should be considered.
Title: Re: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: Icequeen on November 10, 2012, 09:29:18 AM
Yes, definately.
Title: Re: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: bodie on November 10, 2012, 09:33:06 AM
It should indeed.
Title: Re: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: Parts on November 10, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
Well I would side with pretty much anything they would kill or imprison you for in the originating country that would not be considered a crime most other places
Title: Re: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: 'andersom' on November 10, 2012, 10:19:14 AM
It should be.
Title: Re: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: Pyraxis on November 10, 2012, 10:44:16 AM
And Bradley Manning should apply.
Title: Re: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: Adam on November 10, 2012, 10:53:09 AM
Yeah it should, but so should gender identity.

Well I would side with pretty much anything they would kill or imprison you for in the originating country that would not be considered a crime most other places

Agreed
Title: Re: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: midlifeaspie on November 12, 2012, 10:28:44 AM
Asylum should be granted when the person is in immediate danger of loss of life or liberty over something inherent to their nature, or due to choices that are made that would be considered inalienable rights within the country offering asylum.  If sexual orientation falls into this category, then asylum should be granted.  That being said, I don't think that the best way to improve the world is to remove all the undesirables from a given country.  This gives the bad actor what it wants, and doesn't implement (or even leave the possibility of) change.
Title: Re: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: odeon on November 12, 2012, 01:20:55 PM
Well I would side with pretty much anything they would kill or imprison you for in the originating country that would not be considered a crime most other places

QFT
Title: Re: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: ZEGH8578 on November 15, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
Not the orientation itself, but consequences related to it sure. if consequences are death or harm, yes, if they are ridicule, then no.
A homosexual from Uganda would easily have good enough reasons to seek asylum imo.
Title: Re: Should sexual orientation be considered as grounds for asylum?
Post by: midlifeaspie on November 15, 2012, 01:49:02 PM
Not the orientation itself, but consequences related to it sure. if consequences are death or harm, yes, if they are ridicule, then no.
A homosexual from Uganda would easily have good enough reasons to seek asylum imo.

Of course, this leads to questions of proof.  I imagine a lot of people want an all-expenses paid trip out of Uganda and into a better place.  How do we sort out legitimate claims?  Do we require they suck a cock in front of an embassy employee who can attest with a level of satisfaction as to the enjoyment of said cocksucker?