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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: ProfessorFarnsworth on September 13, 2012, 02:13:29 AM
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Seriously this may be the greatest incidental religious trolling event in internet history. The film is called "Innocence of Muslims" and it portrays Mohammad in a severely negative light (I mean if you think the Danish cartoons were offensive to Muslims, this dwarfs that controversy many times over). This could actually get serious enough to undermine ten years of US efforts in Afghanistan and various other places in the Middle East, that or even go as far to provoke another war.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19572694 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19572694)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19570254 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19570254)
Shit just got real, big time.
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Ooopppsss! :thumbup:
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OH SHI-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19584734 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19584734)
It's spreading. But wait until Pakistan's population reacts. Currently their population is in mourning over a incident that killed hundreds of people, so once that's over... Oh fuck.
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Actors saying their have been manipulated in this film, not being aware that it was to be about Islam. And, the main man? behind it not to be found?
Very strange, and tricky indeed.
This would be the way to get massive violence, action, and reaction going.
Oh fuck indeed.
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I wonder how much the conspiracy theorists are right. In my humble opinion most of what they say is BS, but some of it is obviously true.
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I wonder how much the conspiracy theorists are right. In my humble opinion most of what they say is BS, but some of it is obviously true.
Actors saying their have been manipulated in this film, not being aware that it was to be about Islam. And, the main man? behind it not to be found?
Very strange, and tricky indeed.
This would be the way to get massive violence, action, and reaction going.
Oh fuck indeed.
My reaction was along a similar line. Also, interesting that these things happened oh so very close to the US presidential elections.
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Also, interesting that these things happened oh so very close to the US presidential elections.
THIS.
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They're now investigating if the killing of the ambassador to Libya was a set up because someone knew his security detail and when the car picked him up from the building it was immediately fired on with rockets.
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What was strange was that at first the New York Times (of all places to expect this written) mentioned that Sam Bacile himself proclaimed he was a Israeli-American Jew. Now they're trying to say his name is unknown and he's likely Christian, omitting this supposed confession. Sounds like a dangerous game of propaganda is emerging from this.
What is suss is the timing, right on 9/11, a perfect time to rekindle hatred on both sides in order to excite potential war. Israel and Romney both gain a lot from this. Israel may get it's war with Iran soon with US commitment (as the hatred boils over into rash actions) and/or Obama may lose the election over mishandling this foreign relations nightmare (as Romney is more committed to Israel's interest against Iran than Obama is).
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Two warships have been sent to the Libya coast http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/us-sending-warships-libya-101618125.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/us-sending-warships-libya-101618125.html)
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What was strange was that at first the New York Times (of all places to expect this written) mentioned that Sam Bacile himself proclaimed he was a Israeli-American Jew. Now they're trying to say his name is unknown and he's likely Christian, omitting this supposed confession. Sounds like a dangerous game of propaganda is emerging from this.
What is suss is the timing, right on 9/11, a perfect time to rekindle hatred on both sides in order to excite potential war. Israel and Romney both gain a lot from this. Israel may get it's war with Iran soon with US commitment (as the hatred boils over into rash actions) and/or Obama may lose the election over mishandling this foreign relations nightmare (as Romney is more committed to Israel's interest against Iran than Obama is).
All that. :(
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What concerns me more than anything else is that, this is only the beginning and I feel we've seen nothing yet. It's too early right now for any major response (other than the Libyan event) to happen yet, but if I were an American in the Middle East right now, I'd high tail it outta there and FAST.
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Exactly.
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The US embassy in Berlin has just been evacuated :-\
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Has anyone watched any of it? It's awful high school kids could do better I can not understand how anyone could take it seriously. But then again we are talking about religious nutters which are the worst type. As to who did it and conspiracies this could be just about anyone all sides could use this to their benefit. Obama could look presidential meeting out justice to the offenders, Romney could go on about how he would do more and attack this group or that. Israel could try to use it to get an attack on Iran. Fundie Muslims could use it to gain more power. Even China and Russia could have done it to through the US off balance. Of course oil will rise in price so the Saudis will be raking in the money. So good news for everyone except of course the people who will die which will not be anyone with money or that will gain with the exception of the death of the ambassador well that was necessary to peak the outrage I am sure it was nothing personal
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I watched 5 minutes on Youtube and had several thoughts.
1) Ye gods and little fishes, it is juvenile, crude, and awful cinematography.
2) I'm Jewish and I'm offended by the content.
3) I can understand how some Muslims would react violently to it. Understand, not condone.
4) I don't understand why it was made? Is it a joke, an insult, a political statement, a political trick?
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the actors said a lot of their lines were dubbed over
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the actors said a lot of their lines were dubbed over
I read that also. It makes me almost want to have actors have final say over their lines and scenes. Yes, I know they aren't professional actors. They do seem horrified about the whole thing.
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the actors said a lot of their lines were dubbed over
Can that term be used that loosely and still have any meaning :zoinks:
As to why it was made, it was made to stir shit and it is doing a very good job of it
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the actors said a lot of their lines were dubbed over
Which adds to the theory that this film was deliberately produced to provoke a hostile reaction. No actor in their right mind even desperate for a role would dare associate to such a thing. This entire production was made out of pure malice and deception.
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the actors said a lot of their lines were dubbed over
Which adds to the theory that this film was deliberately produced to provoke a hostile reaction. No actor in their right mind even desperate for a role would dare associate to such a thing. This entire production was made out of pure malice and deception.
since they are associating all americans with this movie
I cant see where they can complain much if we lump all of them together, when one of their nuts goes over the line with stupidity.
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They evacuated the Canadian embassy in Egypt today too.
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Let's face it. There are some people in all camps that would love nothing better tan to see it boil over and escalate. Some Christians and Some Muslims.
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Now British and German embassies in Sudan have been attacked. Also Lebanese protestors burned down a KFC store so not even western corporate entities are safe:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19602177 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19602177)
This is only going to get a lot worse I'm afraid.
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Now the US Embassy is being targeted by mobs of protestors in Sudan as well as in Tunisia.
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India too now, although they only damaged a few windows and the police booth by the US embassy.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/US-consulate-targeted-in-Chennai-over-anti-Prophet-Muhammad-film/articleshow/16397437.cms (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/US-consulate-targeted-in-Chennai-over-anti-Prophet-Muhammad-film/articleshow/16397437.cms)
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And on american soil someone open fired on a mosque in Atlanta, firing into a crowd during prayer. A 7 year old child was severely injured. My Mum saw it on the news down there.
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And on american soil someone open fired on a mosque in Atlanta, firing into a crowd during prayer. A 7 year old child was severely injured. My Mum saw it on the news down there.
Strange, google isn't showing up any online articles about a Mosque shooting in America yet. :-\
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And on american soil someone open fired on a mosque in Atlanta, firing into a crowd during prayer. A 7 year old child was severely injured. My Mum saw it on the news down there.
Strange, google isn't showing up any online articles about a Mosque shooting in America yet. :-\
Yeah I know I googled it to post a link and can't find anything yet. Maybe she got the city wrong. That would very much be like my mother :P
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The dude who made it is Egyptian, so let's kill all the Americans!!!
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Also, interesting that these things happened oh so very close to the US presidential elections.
THIS.
9/11 is close to a presidential election every 4 years or so.
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the actors said a lot of their lines were dubbed over
Which adds to the theory that this film was deliberately produced to provoke a hostile reaction. No actor in their right mind even desperate for a role would dare associate to such a thing. This entire production was made out of pure malice and deception.
since they are associating all americans with this movie
I cant see where they can complain much if we lump all of them together, when one of their nuts goes over the line with stupidity.
It is coming to light now that the film may have ties to Egypts Coptic community
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the actors said a lot of their lines were dubbed over
Which adds to the theory that this film was deliberately produced to provoke a hostile reaction. No actor in their right mind even desperate for a role would dare associate to such a thing. This entire production was made out of pure malice and deception.
since they are associating all americans with this movie
I cant see where they can complain much if we lump all of them together, when one of their nuts goes over the line with stupidity.
It is coming to light now that the film may have ties to Egypts Coptic community
What I saw, they are denying that too.
Could be someone trying to troll all religions and political systems.
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What I saw, they are denying that too.
Could be someone trying to troll all religions and political systems.
Or someone trying to excite Armageddon...
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I've no sound on my pc atm otherwise I should watch it. From what I hear though, this portrays mohammed as a barbarian warlord, and an unfaithful, misogynistic, murderous paedophile.
Sounds about right to me.
The ragheads aren't doing much to dispel the image of being violent, fundie arseholes though. I do so hope they start slaughtering each other. The world can always use another dead muslim.
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:agreed: :indeed:
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I've no sound on my pc atm otherwise I should watch it. From what I hear though, this portrays mohammed as a barbarian warlord, and an unfaithful, misogynistic, murderous paedophile.
Sounds about right to me.
The ragheads aren't doing much to dispel the image of being violent, fundie arseholes though. I do so hope they start slaughtering each other. The world can always use another dead muslim.
Actually this risks unifying the Muslims (regardless of cultural differences in their own society) to side aside their internal issues and fight against the west as one. It also gives the Taliban perfect propaganda to bolster it's recruitment efforts for jihad; which may translate to countries like Libya, Iraq, Tunisia, hell maybe even Egypt turning into a haven for them eventually.
All this translate to a massive surge of terrorism on western targets all over the world. Worse case it could escalate into an all-out war in the Middle East that soon after spreads globally, especially if Israel decides to bomb Iran in the coming months after this.
This is the worse possible scenario that could ever happen. I am genuinely worried about this. :(
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All because of some retarded video that was trolling the Muslims and a few opportunist Islamist fucktards blowing up an U.S embassy in Libya and killed the U.S ambassador over it. ::)
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They've attacked the US embassy in Tunisia as well as the American School there too.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/protesters-attack-u-embassy-cradle-arab-spring-165247459.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/protesters-attack-u-embassy-cradle-arab-spring-165247459.html)
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Personally I favour giving them all the jihad those ragheaded camelfucking paedophile-adoring moonworshipper fuckups can choke to fucking death on,, boot every last one of them out of the country then use our superior air power to cleanse the world of the fell reek of islam.
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What I saw, they are denying that too.
Could be someone trying to troll all religions and political systems.
Or someone trying to excite Armageddon...
Or trying to do both.
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Looks like Hezbollah is trying to shit-stir things.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19619646 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19619646)
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And as usual, ED has made an article:
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Innocence_of_Muslims
btw: 5000 posts
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Was disturbed to see on the news that there were riots here in Australia over this.
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Was disturbed to see on the news that there were riots here in Australia over this.
is that what the Sydney riots were about? what the fuck did Australia or Australians have to do with it and why attack us? makes no fucking sense
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America basher’s backfire: Killed by flag smoke
Old Glory strikes back.
In an apparent case of red, white and blue revenge, a Pakistani protester died yesterday after inhaling smoke from a burning American flag during an anti-US rally.
Abdullah Ismail succumbed at Mayo Hospital in Lahore a day after attending the fierce protest at the city’s Mall Road, where an estimated 10,000 people rallied.
Witnesses said Ismail had complained of feeling ill after breathing fumes from burning flags, Pakistan’s Express Tribune reported.
Link (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/america_basher_backfire_dKswUjW6LBShGc2uKrGyIM)
:hahaha:
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Pretty like the moron who tried to blow innocent people up in Stockholm around Christmas 2010 but just blew up himself. He couldn't even build a decent bomb, that dumbfuck:
Developments in the Stockholm Suicide Bomber Case (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha7vcJslyCM#ws)
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Was disturbed to see on the news that there were riots here in Australia over this.
is that what the Sydney riots were about? what the fuck did Australia or Australians have to do with it and why attack us? makes no fucking sense
Yes, that is what the riots were about. There are lots of Muslim people around the Sydney area and they held a protest (which turned violent) over the trollish video that got made. There were about 9 arrests made I think.
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They were doing the samething in Chicago, enforcing restrictions on some aspects of Free Speech when involving Religion in the United States.
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''America basher’s backfire: Killed by flag smoke
Old Glory strikes back.
In an apparent case of red, white and blue revenge, a Pakistani protester died yesterday after inhaling smoke from a burning American flag during an anti-US rally.
Abdullah Ismail succumbed at Mayo Hospital in Lahore a day after attending the fierce protest at the city’s Mall Road, where an estimated 10,000 people rallied.
Witnesses said Ismail had complained of feeling ill after breathing fumes from burning flags, Pakistan’s Express Tribune reported.''
Haha! fucking wounded :D
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Also, interesting that these things happened oh so very close to the US presidential elections.
THIS.
^Double this. Extremely relevant.
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the actors said a lot of their lines were dubbed over
Which adds to the theory that this film was deliberately produced to provoke a hostile reaction. No actor in their right mind even desperate for a role would dare associate to such a thing. This entire production was made out of pure malice and deception.
since they are associating all americans with this movie
I cant see where they can complain much if we lump all of them together, when one of their nuts goes over the line with stupidity.
Some of them lump us all together, which is stupid. Therefore we should lump them all together?
Yes. This makes sense.
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the actors said a lot of their lines were dubbed over
Which adds to the theory that this film was deliberately produced to provoke a hostile reaction. No actor in their right mind even desperate for a role would dare associate to such a thing. This entire production was made out of pure malice and deception.
since they are associating all americans with this movie
I cant see where they can complain much if we lump all of them together, when one of their nuts goes over the line with stupidity.
There is a reason that the populations of certain Muslim countries are lumping the American government, and therefore the American people, together with this Egyptian film maker, and it is entirely cultural. They live in societies without free speech, and they therefore do not understand it. It's completely foreign. They can't fathom the idea of media being distributed that wasn't pre-approved by the government as this is something that simply does not exist in their everyday lives. So they see a production coming out of America and logically assume that it was done with the government's backing.
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Islamites in general, are a bunch of cave-dwelling primitive savages. Filthy, disgusting barbaric excuse for a religion. Hell, they worship a paedophile warlord as well as their nasty little moon god. (I mean mohammid and allah respectively)
They want to wage jihad? I don't see why we western societies don't give them all the holy war they could choke on. Expel every single muslim from our countries, send them back home, and then wipe the lot of them out with chemical/biological weapons and our superior firepower.
They would soon wish they jihadn't :P
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:agreed: :plus:
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IMO, the only good camelfucker, is a dead one
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:agreed:
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I saw the Prophet Mo video on YouTube. I think whoever made that movie should be killed only because it bored the hell out of me. He could've made it funny, but it ended up being way too dull.