What happened to it?? >:(
I tried to log on and the site has been erased. ???
Do you know what happened to it??
Where's Schleed when you actually want him around?? :tantrum:
Do you know what happened to it??
Where's Schleed when you actually want him around?? :tantrum:
He's at college still probably
Do you know what happened to it??
Where's Schleed when you actually want him around?? :tantrum:
He's at college still probably
Isn't it almost 8:00 PM there right now??
I've upgraded to paid hosting, so the forum had to be wiped. A backup is fucking 30 euro, so fuck that.
I'll set everything back up and pester you all to join. Again.
Do you know what happened to it??
Where's Schleed when you actually want him around?? :tantrum:
He's at college still probably
Isn't it almost 8:00 PM there right now??
No 6:33 :laugh:
Do you know what happened to it??
Where's Schleed when you actually want him around?? :tantrum:
He's at college still probably
Isn't it almost 8:00 PM there right now??
No 6:33 :laugh:
Oh, OK. I was only an hour off. I thought you were 9 hours ahead, when you're 8 hours ahead.
Every time I've been to Europe, is was 9 hours ahead of US Pacific time. :dunno:
I decided to let them transfer from the old forum, a bit of money but messing with cpanel will take some getting used to. :dunno:
Being like this place, but without the misplaced moral outrage would be a good thing.
Being like this place, but without the misplaced moral outrage would be a good thing.
:agreed:
There's a bit too much of that around here.
And lots of butthurt when someone does a little something. :orly:
And lots of butthurt when someone does a little something. :orly:
And lots of butthurt when someone does a little something. :orly:
Exactly.
And just in case you werent sure, you are more than welcome to join.
I cant guarantee any of the others will be nice to you, but Id be happy to see you there.
anyone else getting this page?
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/screenshot20111128at242.png/)
So for that lesson comment I do apologise, to you and to Butterflies and possibly others who might have reacted similarly, because that comment was a heat of the moment thing and, now that I think of it, quite dishonest of me.
's OK. So maybe you should just avoid my reply to you in that other thread? :laugh:
Maybe that is why i reacted to flutterbies recent lesson. I think it sucks to label people, especially young people. Using words like 'viscous' and 'sociopath' ... i just don't see it!
anyone else getting this page?
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3950/screenshot20111128at242.png)
That is cool. The thing that really confuses me, and i am new to internet drama is how real it really is. I mean i tend to take most things online with a pinch of salt. They are not real. I have a plug and i can pull it out. This particular drama was focused (at least in the beginning) on affecting people in real life. So i have been ignoring logic (which tells me just words on a screen) and have been thinking IRL. If i were to stumble across a man talking that way to a young girl of butterflies age, using those words IRL i would be inclined to give him a gobful. (of abuse) even if they were both strangers to me.
That is why i was a bit narked. I had a visual of odeon in headmaster kit, waving his cane at the blackboard and being intimidating. :zoinks:
That is cool. The thing that really confuses me, and i am new to internet drama is how real it really is. I mean i tend to take most things online with a pinch of salt. They are not real. I have a plug and i can pull it out. This particular drama was focused (at least in the beginning) on affecting people in real life. So i have been ignoring logic (which tells me just words on a screen) and have been thinking IRL. If i were to stumble across a man talking that way to a young girl of butterflies age, using those words IRL i would be inclined to give him a gobful. (of abuse) even if they were both strangers to me.
That is why i was a bit narked. I had a visual of odeon in headmaster kit, waving his cane at the blackboard and being intimidating. :zoinks:
I don't think it's necessarily wrong for an older adult to talk like that to a young person. I used to know a guy who was told by a cop, as a young teenage boy, that he had sociopathic tendencies. There was truth to it, but he turned out to be one of those fortunate ones who don't get their genetic proclivities triggered too badly, so he grew up to be a cutthroat entrepreneur instead of a criminal mastermind. He would occasionally brag about what the cop told him, but he didn't suffer any lasting harm from it, and the older he got, the more he learned to check himself.
But in a forum context like this, I can see how my repeating it contributed to some of the blowup.
Ey, well, be careful with them.
What do you mean by like your dad? What's your dad like?
I think the older i have got the more appealing agood shagnice cup of tea is! Seriously, there are so many other things to do in life other than to spend it arguing.
IRL i am really laid back and easy going. I buy lots of tea. :thumbup:
However, get me behind a trolley in a supermarket and i am a cunt. :green:
yes road rage, can be tootling along as nice as pie, sun shining, birds tweeting, listening to some tuuuunes...then some cunt will pull out so you have to brake hard and then they proceed at 25mph all the way on a single carriageway.
why didn't they just wait till you had gone past :zoinks:
I would have pretty bad roadrage if I drove I think
Or maybe I just get frustrated a lot in the car because I'm NOT the one who's driving
I would have pretty bad roadrage if I drove I think
Or maybe I just get frustrated a lot in the car because I'm NOT the one who's driving
I get so angry when I'm on my bike and someone does something that is dangerous to me. Sometimes they just pull out without even noticing me.
Sometimes I feel like buying a tractor and crushing them.
anyone else getting this page?
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3950/screenshot20111128at242.png)
If anyone is good at this, let me know. I need some help. :laugh:
That is cool. The thing that really confuses me, and i am new to internet drama is how real it really is. I mean i tend to take most things online with a pinch of salt. They are not real. I have a plug and i can pull it out. This particular drama was focused (at least in the beginning) on affecting people in real life. So i have been ignoring logic (which tells me just words on a screen) and have been thinking IRL. If i were to stumble across a man talking that way to a young girl of butterflies age, using those words IRL i would be inclined to give him a gobful. (of abuse) even if they were both strangers to me.
That is why i was a bit narked. I had a visual of odeon in headmaster kit, waving his cane at the blackboard and being intimidating. :zoinks:
I need someone who's good with cpanel, upgrading forums etc.
I might PM Pika or Adam about it, they've experience on this.
Dammit! No, it is all in my head, that headmaster thing. Probably due to the teaching her a lesson thing. I doubt anyone else thought the same. I was just explaining where i was coming from. I think all that 'headmaster' stuff belongs in the bedroom anyway :hahaha:That is cool. The thing that really confuses me, and i am new to internet drama is how real it really is. I mean i tend to take most things online with a pinch of salt. They are not real. I have a plug and i can pull it out. This particular drama was focused (at least in the beginning) on affecting people in real life. So i have been ignoring logic (which tells me just words on a screen) and have been thinking IRL. If i were to stumble across a man talking that way to a young girl of butterflies age, using those words IRL i would be inclined to give him a gobful. (of abuse) even if they were both strangers to me.
That is why i was a bit narked. I had a visual of odeon in headmaster kit, waving his cane at the blackboard and being intimidating. :zoinks:
Yes, I realised that, eventually, and well, tried to learn from it.
Hell, I don't agree with Butterflies on a lot of stuff but I don't want to be like that, I don't want to be perceived as a headmaster trying to enforce points on authority. Either my arguments work or they don't.
I need someone who's good with cpanel, upgrading forums etc.
I might PM Pika or Adam about it, they've experience on this.
What kind of problem do you have? Are you trying to upgrade?
Bodie, Oldies can get it wrong, sure. So can younger folk and sometimes both are wrong or both are right. Sometimes difference of opinion is simply that. From my reading of what you wrote here (correct me if I am wrong by all means) you are saying that young people over the age of 18 here ought to be a protected class and given more latitude than older members because they are young, and that older members are far more likely to be close-minded and have a false sense of superiority?i don't know if you mean this site? If it is, then it's not what i mean. If i choose to be a certain way with a group of people it is my choice. I don't think i have any influence whatsoever in what others do. Don't see this as a one voice place, but a group of independent individuals.
Perhaps you even misjudge simple things, like a lesson rather than a claim being backed, or who is on a high horse and who isn’t? Or even making an example, instead of pointing out what is seen as behavior that is disagreed upon?No not all. I had no problem with your call out of Butterflies. I agreed with the principal. I am all for pointing things out too. It just went on and on, with no real purpose and no real benefit. I think its fair to call out anyone on here. Regardless of age.
I don't know anything about a secret club. If you mean Schleeds site, and you didn't get invited i wouldn't take it personally. I didn't get an invite either.
Scraphead mentioned Spasticity on Duncs forum. Derp derp derp...
.... derp derp derp.
If you mean Schleeds site, and you didn't get invited i wouldn't take it personally.
Think I've got the hang of it. Backed up current forum and decided to do a clean install, then I'll install the themes and mods from the forum and then get everyone to rejoin.
I know. I just saw the link and joined. I didn't think there had been invitations. I would have tried to join anyway, invited or not :zoinks:QuoteI don't know anything about a secret club. If you mean Schleeds site, and you didn't get invited i wouldn't take it personally. I didn't get an invite either.
You would very definately have got an invite as soon as the site was working properly.
I didn't really want to invite a lot of people to the site, only for them to see a half-finished site, and think "this is shit, I'm not coming back."
It seems to be up and working well now, so anyone wanting to join should head on over.
It's definately not a secret club though. We're trying to get as many people interested as possible. It might be a good option for anyone who thinks this site has gone downhill recently.
Anyways, the forum is finally back up and working properly. Everyone rejoin.
It's not "marketed" at anything and that was never my intention, except as a place for when people are tired of having to see constant drama on websites like i2. Anyone can join and post. If anything it's more like i2 and ZOMG mixed together.
You young folks can heave a sigh of relief. This old fuddy-duddy has enough trouble translating the new ideas and words of the over-30 crowd to even consider joining S2.0. But I wish each and every one of you good and happy posting.
You young folks can heave a sigh of relief. This old fuddy-duddy has enough trouble translating the new ideas and words of the over-30 crowd to even consider joining S2.0. But I wish each and every one of you good and happy posting.
Thanks, although you would be more than welcome, and even if you don't fancy posting much, you would always be welcome to come over for a snoop.
It's not "marketed" at anything and that was never my intention, except as a place for when people are tired of having to see constant drama on websites like i2. Anyone can join and post. If anything it's more like i2 and ZOMG mixed together.
Unless you want to moderate it, it will have drama. Just a fact.
It's not "marketed" at anything and that was never my intention, except as a place for when people are tired of having to see constant drama on websites like i2. Anyone can join and post. If anything it's more like i2 and ZOMG mixed together.
Unless you want to moderate it, it will have drama. Just a fact.
It will be moderated. :P
You can. If you're over 18. :P
Anyways, EVERYONE GET IN THERE! :zoinks:
You young folks can heave a sigh of relief. This old fuddy-duddy has enough trouble translating the new ideas and words of the over-30 crowd to even consider joining S2.0. But I wish each and every one of you good and happy posting.Staying with my Queen, as her bovine Lady in Waiting.
Yeah, but it's not going to be an anti-i2 site or anything. Although people can bitch about it if they want.I don't wanna bitch about it! I still like it here! Alternatives are good though.
Yeah, but it's not going to be an anti-i2 site or anything. Although people can bitch about it if they want.Of course not. Why would anyone think it was anti-I2 or born from such sentiment? Hardly needed saying Shleed.
I hope it doesn't become the bitchfest that I2 is right now.
Surprised there's already so much activity in only a night. People must REALLY be sick of i2.
Being like this place, but without the misplaced moral outrage would be a good thing.
Yeah I think spasticity is best as a …. version of intensity, without the bullshit
It might be a good option for anyone who thinks this site has gone downhill recently.
….. except as a place for when people are tired of having to see constant drama on websites like i2.
Very nice of you to say Butterflies, but in truth I think that the “bullshit” will be migrated by the members going over and I think this will benefit I2 certainly and I really hope Spasticity too. Will give you guys an interesting dynamic and a new environment and culture to create. You can back each other regardless of what opinion is stated and in the event that you have a difference of opinion with a member or two, you all can bring out the daggers like you all did with Bint.QuoteI don't know anything about a secret club. If you mean Schleeds site, and you didn't get invited i wouldn't take it personally. I didn't get an invite either.
You would very definately have got an invite as soon as the site was working properly.
Not at all Scrap. I wish the site well, but do not necessarily want to be a part of it.Scraphead mentioned Spasticity on Duncs forum. Derp derp derp....... derp derp derp.tl;dr
That's some major butthurt Sir Les. ::)
First Odeon and then Pyraxis?Young people probably make more mistakes. I made loads. Still do. I just choose to take into account the fact that i have twenty years worth of life experience over them. So, yeah i probably go out of my way to be a bit more understanding.
This was getting over the top. First odeon, then Pyraxis coming in with "Les told me how nasty you was and now i see for myself" This is more than pointing things out?
I do think a few older people get on their high horses and claim superiority. I also think there are some young arrogant shits around. ?I see you making a claim of the former and not in possible but assertively saying it is so. Did not see anything close to any suggestion of the later. (Are you sure it may not be a case of the younger ones on high horses and older ones arrogant and set in their ways? That reading actually makes more sense to me. (Perhaps in that it better fits my self-image) In fact I have seen nothing but support of the younger ones regardless of what they say or do.
Putting a (not) Elder Forum @ Spasticity to hide sock puppets might be a good idea as well. I remember when there was mention of de eldering here some time back. I always inferred that hiding sock puppet activity was the true reason for the push to de elder members who had not been here for a while.
I'm not listening! I'm not listening! Ner ner ner! :smarty:
Not at all Scrap. I wish the site well, but do not necessarily want to be a part of it.Scraphead mentioned Spasticity on Duncs forum. Derp derp derp....... derp derp derp.tl;dr
That's some major butthurt Sir Les. ::)
You seem really smart when you talk about rocks, you know. Really smart. Reading emotional attachment to things, or empathizing, really is not your bag. I reckon talking about rocks is where you keep it real and relevant. Rocks, cars, Chugging beer and banging girls. Like an aspie Frank the Tank. :autism:
Putting a (not) Elder Forum @ Spasticity to hide sock puppets might be a good idea as well. I remember when there was mention of de eldering here some time back. I always inferred that hiding sock puppet activity was the true reason for the push to de elder members who had not been here for a while.
First Odeon and then Pyraxis?If it were as you stated then no. However, she had already answered all the questions making it repetitive and pointless. Pyraxis stated quite openly that she didn't really have the details but she thought Butterflies to be as nasty as you had told her. So how could she disagree?
Ok so two people on the site who were older members disagreed on the behavior of another member and that was over the top?
Ok….so the collective group of Butterflies,Scrap, Adam, Squid, Bodie, and Bint (until recently)arguing against Odeon and that was Ok? Then the group of six became ganged up on and it was over the top that such strong views were aired by more than 1 member against the helpless hapless group? I see.This was the thread that you made in the call out section, after you had left, then you stated you felt apathy about it and then left again. Odeon clearly stated it was not actually a call out so i did not realise there was any protocol regarding other members posting. I do not recall it ever happening like that. If i am wrong and there is a procedure that i should have observed then i apologise. I do not believe the six in question were acting as a group. It was six individuals with their own opinion which was different to Odeon. Did Odeon feel ganged up on? If he did he gave no indication of the fact. If he had asked me to butt out i would have respected his request. He also had the option of calling out Butterflies himself. This would have kept our comments to the peanut gallery. He chose not to take this option. I am happy to say sorry to odeon if he felt ganged up on.
Rather than Odeon and Pyraxis objecting, both perhapos ought to have been more understanding? Perhaps allowed a more than a three to one in an argument, to be fairer and not give the impression of a ganging up or stymieing creativity and potential for future? Allow for difference in life experience? Protect them from calling it as you see it in case they have not had the opportunity to come across something in their own life experience to know what it is you object to? Let them make mistakes and if they are under (30?) do not highlight it least you get seen as a headmaster?Except that is not what i said at all. Those are your words. I said that i personally choose to go out my way and take into account that i have more life experience. I said that i make more of an effort to understand young people as i don't see any benefit in alienating the next generation. I also said that i have no influence over anyone else here. I never said anything about letting them off scott free. I just wouldn't persue them for weeks.
It sounds like a bit of a cop out to be honest and a rather lopsided playing field. A protected class as it were. Allow the younger members more leeway because they are young and let them be unchecked by your own objections to anything they say or do. Or if you do defend anything you say, cop it sweet but be delicate in your replies. Don’t and you will be seen as being on a high horse, a headmaster, mentally ill, having a false sense of superiority?
Kinda sounds like what you are saying and it doesn’t seem to fit the “make a claim and be prepared to back it”.
I see you making a claim of the former and not in possible but assertively saying it is so. Did not see anything close to any suggestion of the later. (Are you sure it may not be a case of the younger ones on high horses and older ones arrogant and set in their ways? That reading actually makes more sense to me. (Perhaps in that it better fits my self-image) In fact I have seen nothing but support of the younger ones regardless of what they say or do.I really don't know what it is you are reading in to this. I get the impression that the words i have written already have not been received by yourself as i intended. I have no problem with older people calling out younger people, or vice versa. Or two people calling one person, or one person calling out ten. I felt Butterflies was being pursued. It seemed to be for kicks or revenge rather than any hopeful resolution of a disagreement. Odeon had said he was 'playing with her' and 'teaching her a lesson' (although fair play to him he did say he should not have said it). So, yes, i felt it was OTT. I have never stated that young people should not be corrected. Corrected yes. persued for lulz no.
It looks a tad biased to be honest. Am I reading too much into this?
It is integral to my trying to nut out this site and the dynamics and culture that is/was here and what is/isn’t changing and why?
I think I'll focus on promoting the forum more than participate in this drama. I really can't be bothered backing up stuff when my intention of the forum is to not be a rival of i2. If anything it's a tribute to i2 due to it's name (spastic intensity).I object to your use of the word drama. Drama suggests excitement. It is repetitive, boring, and not what i come on the internet for. Yes it is making your site more appealing by the second.
However, this drama may be a good source of income when it comes to new members. :zoinks:
Putting a (not) Elder Forum @ Spasticity to hide sock puppets might be a good idea as well. I remember when there was mention of de eldering here some time back. I always inferred that hiding sock puppet activity was the true reason for the push to de elder members who had not been here for a while.
Aside from Butterflies using her cousins account, what sockpuppet activity has occured??
That was not in reference to sockpuppet accounts here. It was stated in reference to discussions of de eldering people here to protect sock puppets (that is the reason I inferred) that were being used at WP.Putting a (not) Elder Forum @ Spasticity to hide sock puppets might be a good idea as well. I remember when there was mention of de eldering here some time back. I always inferred that hiding sock puppet activity was the true reason for the push to de elder members who had not been here for a while.
Aside from Butterflies using her cousins account, what sock puppet activity has occured??
:santa:
the oldies can get it wrong sometimes, flutterbies. there is a misguided belief of superiority due to age. also horses tend to get taller as you get old, they get so tall until 'you can't get off your high horse' :hahaha:
lol, I mention the site is running smoothly and suddenly wham, inaccessible. :laugh::indeed: You have the Midas touch. :thumbup:
True. I am always gonna be behind my brothers though, and they know best because they are older! I was the youngest of four children so i grew up with that line.:santa:
the oldies can get it wrong sometimes, flutterbies. there is a misguided belief of superiority due to age. also horses tend to get taller as you get old, they get so tall until 'you can't get off your high horse' :hahaha:
Says the almost-40-year-old. Soon you'll be one of us. :hahaha:
Bodie, you gave Sir Les more attention than he deserves.Nonsense. He is a good member.
As of late, he's been little more than a shit-stirer.
Hell, come to think of it, he's done quite a bit of shit-stiring here for quite some time.
I'm beginging to think he's a bit of a poisonous personality.
I agree. Since returning to the site, I think Les has made 1 post that hasn't been about the drama, or Spasticity.You do have the option of ignoring his posts.
I agree. Since returning to the site, I think Les has made 1 post that hasn't been about the drama, or Spasticity.You do have the option of ignoring his posts.
so is Les not leaving after all now?
so is Les not leaving after all now?He is already back. He just took a sabbatical.
He's been posting all along though ???He probably missed you Soph. :thumbup:
Putting a (not) Elder Forum @ Spasticity to hide sock puppets might be a good idea as well. I remember when there was mention of de eldering here some time back. I always inferred that hiding sock puppet activity was the true reason for the push to de elder members who had not been here for a while.
Aside from Butterflies using her cousins account, what sockpuppet activity has occured??
Yours. I believe you have an old sockpuppet account.
That was not in reference to sockpuppet accounts here. It was stated in reference to discussions of de eldering people here to protect sock puppets (that is the reason I inferred) that were being used at WP.Putting a (not) Elder Forum @ Spasticity to hide sock puppets might be a good idea as well. I remember when there was mention of de eldering here some time back. I always inferred that hiding sock puppet activity was the true reason for the push to de elder members who had not been here for a while.
Aside from Butterflies using her cousins account, what sock puppet activity has occured??
WellPutting a (not) Elder Forum @ Spasticity to hide sock puppets might be a good idea as well. I remember when there was mention of de eldering here some time back. I always inferred that hiding sock puppet activity was the true reason for the push to de elder members who had not been here for a while.
Aside from Butterflies using her cousins account, what sockpuppet activity has occured??
Yours. I believe you have an old sockpuppet account.
HAHAHAHAHA!!! I damn near tried to make the sock obvious enough to anyone wha was paying attention. Its original name was DefinitelyNotS(crap)H(eap).
My only intention for that sock was for the lulz.
so is Les not leaving after all now?
No. It looks like he's decided to stay after all.
He returned several hours after Odeon made his thread asking for an end to the drama, and all but one of his posts appear to be geared towards stirring up the drama again.
Obviously it was just a coincidence though.
He's been posting all along though ???
are you calling me a spammer, Mr Fifty-five-thousand-posts? :M
so is Les not leaving after all now?
No. It looks like he's decided to stay after all.
He returned several hours after Odeon made his thread asking for an end to the drama, and all but one of his posts appear to be geared towards stirring up the drama again.
Obviously it was just a coincidence though.
Not sure he said he would leave but he didn't post anything for a few weeks.
And just because I wanted an end to the drama, he doesn't have to. It's the beauty of an unmoderated site.
Re: Where are theyIf you are referring to the above post Flutterbies, then i took it to mean he was leaving too.
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Quote from: odeon on 27 October 2011, 15:41:52
Ask him.
He's done, and so am I. At least for the time being.
Bodie, you gave Sir Les more attention than he deserves.I have been doing and saying pretty much what I have always done and said….for the last three or four years.
As of late, he's been little more than a shit-stirer.
Hell, come to think of it, he's done quite a bit of shit-stiring here for quite some time.
I'm beginging to think he's a bit of a poisonous personality.
I agree. Since returning to the site, I think Les has made 1 post that hasn't been about the drama, or Spasticity.
I can practically feel his butthurt from here.
I agree. Since returning to the site, I think Les has made 1 post that hasn't been about the drama, or Spasticity.You do have the option of ignoring his posts.
:indeed:
I've also got the option of commenting on them.
Maybe she's just shy. :PPy shy?....I really do not think so
Maybe she's just shy. :PPy shy?....I really do not think so
Maybe she's just shy. :PPy shy?....I really do not think so
Shy and intimidated. :zoinks:
Maybe she's just shy. :PPy shy?....I really do not think so
Shy and intimidated. :zoinks:
Oh dear God.
Now THIS defines shit-stirring.
I have been sleeping with my girlfriend for the last 3 months and things are cool. But now all of a sudden I have a vague suspicion that she has a penis.
Yes none of this shit is true and nor do you believe it but it is said anyhow.
You guys are politicking. Socially preening and holding a party line and one will back the other as long as you agree.
If you do not agree and argue against the party line you are exited from the party (ie Binty – damn she was one of your most vocal party supporters).
I did not understand it at first and was apathetic because it all seemed a little vague and difficult to interpret. I am a spazz. I saw what was happening but it took a while to understand it completely. Social politicking is not my strong suit.
Since the moment we all conspired to stab Bint in the back apparently. :lol:
Since the moment we all conspired to stab Bint in the back apparently. :lol:
I guess I don't see it as funny.
I think that it's sad that she interpreted Butterflies and Adam derailing her emo thread as a personal attack on her and that the situation deteriorated from there. It's sad to me to see that several people who used to see her as a friend seem to be unable to stand her anymore.
I know that I posted about this unfortunate characteristic of her falling out with people over relatively minor issues when she called me out some time ago and most people disagreed with me about it then, but it's still sad to see it played out again.
Maybe she's just shy. :PPy shy?....I really do not think so
Shy and intimidated. :zoinks:
Oh dear God.
Now THIS defines shit-stirring.
:angel:
I think that it's sad that she interpreted Butterflies and Adam derailing her emo thread as a personal attack on her and that the situation deteriorated from there. It's sad to me to see that several people who used to see her as a friend seem to be unable to stand her anymore.
lol Bint a supporter of scrap? when was this?
I have been sleeping with my girlfriend for the last 3 months and things are cool. But now all of a sudden I have a vague suspicion that she has a penis.
Is this happening to you often?
So it makes as much sense as you saying"I have been sleeping with my girlfriend for the last 3 months and things are cool. But now all of a sudden I have a vague suspicion that she has a penis"
If so, then I suggest reconsidering which drinking establishments you choose to frequent.I suggest that your suggestion is either a case of inability to comprehend, or an inability to read.
*Protip. Always check for the Adams Apple. If it's got the apple, you don't wanna grapple.
Nope. Common sense. I know such insight may astound you though Scrap.Yes none of this shit is true and nor do you believe it but it is said anyhow.ZOMG!!! Sir Les is a telepath who can read our mindzz Ooooh Noooeeess!!! :GA:
You think? Wow. I thought it was a small little clique of spazzes spouting a lot of bullshit and embarrassing themselves by backing such bullshit over and over again. Doesn’t meet my definition, but you are the one telling the story. (By story I mean talking more bullshit again).You guys are politicking. Socially preening and holding a party line and one will back the other as long as you agree.It's a conspirachaaaaaaahhh!!! :tinfoil: :GA:
She WAS a vocal “party supporter” of the party you are a flag-waving member of. Not YOU personally.If you do not agree and argue against the party line you are exited from the party (ie Binty – damn she was one of your most vocal party supporters).
Binty was never a "supporter" of mine or anyone else here that I've seen. How do you expect anyone to take this shit seriously when you accuse me of being on bed with binty?? We can barely just tolerate eachother.
Actually, social politicking has been one of your primary endeavors here. Really, with posts packed full of this much crap, how do you expect anyone to seriously consider what you say? Or are you already aware of the fact that you blew much of your credibility in your numerous defences of TCO??I am more than aware of how little store I put in what you think of my credibility or lack there of.
lol Bint a supporter of scrap? when was this?Explained above
Since the moment we all conspired to stab Bint in the back apparently. :lol:
Since the moment we all conspired to stab Bint in the back apparently. :lol:
I guess I don't see it as funny.
I think that it's sad that she interpreted Butterflies and Adam derailing her emo thread as a personal attack on her and that the situation deteriorated from there. It's sad to me to see that several people who used to see her as a friend seem to be unable to stand her anymore.
I know that I posted about this unfortunate characteristic of her falling out with people over relatively minor issues when she called me out some time ago and most people disagreed with me about it then, but it's still sad to see it played out again.
I find it funny Sir Les chose to word it like that , but meh if that's his opinion so be it.
More bullshit Scrap. Do you feel a compulsive need to spout bullshit?lol Bint a supporter of scrap? when was this?Yeah, that's what I' saying.
I supported her work in digging up threads about TCO because she was exposing the truth. I also plused her a few times for funny jokes and some of the boob spam.
In Sir Les' world that means we might as well be married. :dunno:
Well Im not too sure about how things were around here in the past but right now it looks like you've divided into two cliques and are arguing against each other and I thought that kind of thing was what you were trying to avoid when you signed up here
I was mostly refering to the butterflies/bint iargumentWell Im not too sure about how things were around here in the past but right now it looks like you've divided into two cliques and are arguing against each other and I thought that kind of thing was what you were trying to avoid when you signed up here
Two cliques? Nope just the one and me. :)
I was mostly refering to the butterflies/bint iargumentWell Im not too sure about how things were around here in the past but right now it looks like you've divided into two cliques and are arguing against each other and I thought that kind of thing was what you were trying to avoid when you signed up here
Two cliques? Nope just the one and me. :)
I was mostly refering to the butterflies/bint iargumentWell Im not too sure about how things were around here in the past but right now it looks like you've divided into two cliques and are arguing against each other and I thought that kind of thing was what you were trying to avoid when you signed up here
Two cliques? Nope just the one and me. :)
TL:DR.
I did notice you appeared to object to my use of the word "clique."
I would largely agree. I was only using the word to try and explain things to V.
V thinks there are two cliques.
He thinks these two cliques have formed over the fight between me and Bint.
I have tried to explain to him that what he is seeing, whether it be an example of clique behaviour or not, is a result of issues between us, and not as a result of anything involving Binty.
Iwould say that two cliques have formed, but it is over the arguments involving Les, and in the past, Odeon.
Did I say there was a conspiracy to stab Bint in the back Squid? Anywhere? No. Stop misrepresented what I said with what you would have like me to say then .
That’s right never mentioned a conspiracy nor backstabbing.
Is it my opinion and is it even what I said? No on both accounts so why are you bullshitting Squiddy?
Callaway I think it is a shame too.
You can back each other regardless of what opinion is stated and in the event that you have a difference of opinion with a member or two, you all can bring out the daggers like you all did with Bint.
Scrap misrepresents what I said. Adam agrees and Scrap Agrees with Adam’s agreement of something that he misrepresented. Party lines are backed.
Fucking priceless.
Scrap misrepresents what I said. Adam agrees and Scrap Agrees with Adam’s agreement of something that he misrepresented. Party lines are backed.
Fucking priceless.
THIS is fucking priceless.
Coming from the King of Straw-man arguments, quote-mining, misrepresentations and other red herrings.
:LMAO:
Did I say there was a conspiracy to stab Bint in the back Squid? Anywhere? No. Stop misrepresented what I said with what you would have like me to say then .
That’s right never mentioned a conspiracy nor backstabbing.Is it my opinion and is it even what I said? No on both accounts so why are you bullshitting Squiddy?
Callaway I think it is a shame too.
So what exactly DID you mean by this?You can back each other regardless of what opinion is stated and in the event that you have a difference of opinion with a member or two, you all can bring out the daggers like you all did with Bint.
You seem convinced we all turned on Bint due to her disagreeing with Butterflies , frankly that's bullshit.
Let me enlighten you on what happened.
Butterflies and Bint had their argument , I kept out of it , so did Adam , Adam made a jokey post in Bint's thread Bint snapped and accused him of siding against her or some nonsense like that , so I had to sit back and watch as two of my friends were being unfairly slated by Bint but I kept quiet anyway I do not involve myself in fights between friends unless someone is needed to resolve it.
I created this smiley: Pyraxis , and Bint got pissed off and turned on me as she did with Butterflies and Adam.
How Adam and Butterflies act towards others is there own decision as it is with Schleed , Bodie and Scrap, I disagreed with what Odeon said about Butterflies and so did Bodie yet you are under the impression I do this to "back a party member".
I'm not one for cliques never have been , never will , if I react on something I react on it because I wish to , what others do is up to them, but feel free to keep making horribly incorrect assumptions about me. :lol:
I happily admit to quote mining because I back my shit up. As for the rest...desperate flailing fiction.
Did I say there was a conspiracy to stab Bint in the back Squid? Anywhere? No. Stop misrepresented what I said with what you would have like me to say then .
That’s right never mentioned a conspiracy nor backstabbing.Is it my opinion and is it even what I said? No on both accounts so why are you bullshitting Squiddy?
Callaway I think it is a shame too.
So what exactly DID you mean by this?You can back each other regardless of what opinion is stated and in the event that you have a difference of opinion with a member or two, you all can bring out the daggers like you all did with Bint.
You seem convinced we all turned on Bint due to her disagreeing with Butterflies , frankly that's bullshit.
Let me enlighten you on what happened.
Butterflies and Bint had their argument , I kept out of it , so did Adam , Adam made a jokey post in Bint's thread Bint snapped and accused him of siding against her or some nonsense like that , so I had to sit back and watch as two of my friends were being unfairly slated by Bint but I kept quiet anyway I do not involve myself in fights between friends unless someone is needed to resolve it.
I created this smiley: Pyraxis , and Bint got pissed off and turned on me as she did with Butterflies and Adam.
How Adam and Butterflies act towards others is there own decision as it is with Schleed , Bodie and Scrap, I disagreed with what Odeon said about Butterflies and so did Bodie yet you are under the impression I do this to "back a party member".
I'm not one for cliques never have been , never will , if I react on something I react on it because I wish to , what others do is up to them, but feel free to keep making horribly incorrect assumptions about me. :lol:
Yes, I will and then you can show me where this announced Backstabbing conspiracy and why I chose such words.
Binty was in your clique and she went from vocal party supporter to ex-vocal party supporter rather fast. She deviateed from party lines and you all slipped out your daggers from your robes and ripped into her. I do not think it backstabbing. There ought to have been an implicit undersatnding that the exact opposite of doing what you all are doing (backing the person rather than the opinion) is refusing to back the person rather than the opinion. She did that and was exited quite decisively but not before daggers coming out and her being ripped on. They were all in front and ought to have been expected for her horrendous transgression. :lol:
I find it interesting too that when you all do it was in terms of not what she was saying buthow could she say it to a friend. It is bullshit. Back an opinion or defend an opinoon NOT a person.
So your turn now Squiddy show me very clearly the backstabbing conspiracy. You backed this up by saying I had chosen these words after having voiced them yourself, so show. No?
You do not need to enlighten me Squiddy. I see what is happenning and what you said. Bint started voicing a difference of opinion and was ripped into and cast aside decisively. Nothing more or nothing less. None of this is news to me. Regardless to what you think about cliques or not Squiddy you are in a clique now and acting as a member of the clique.
Nope. Common sense. I know such insight may astound you though Scrap.Yes none of this shit is true and nor do you believe it but it is said anyhow.ZOMG!!! Sir Les is a telepath who can read our mindzz Ooooh Noooeeess!!! :GA:
Well Im not too sure about how things were around here in the past but right now it looks like you've divided into two cliques and are arguing against each other and I thought that kind of thing was what you were trying to avoid when you signed up here
Scrap misrepresents what I said. Adam agrees and Scrap Agrees with Adam’s agreement of something that he misrepresented. Party lines are backed.
Fucking priceless.
THIS is fucking priceless.
Coming from the King of Straw-man arguments, quote-mining, misrepresentations and other red herrings.
:LMAO:
I happily admit to quote mining because I back my shit up. As for the rest...desperate flailing fiction.
Quote mining is a dishonest argumentation technique where you take a persons words out of context to make them sound like they said something they didn't.
'Thanks for admitting to the dishonesty that you engage in. :hahaha:
Yes, Bint fell out with US. not the other wy round. If you read my posts to her, I think you'll see I was actually very decent towards her when she initially started having a go at me.
She also wasn't "exited" from any clique. If there was a clique in the first place then she left it herself. We certainly didn't kick her out and actually were hoping that she was ok at first, until she started getting nasty
Yes, Bint fell out with US. not the other wy round. If you read my posts to her, I think you'll see I was actually very decent towards her when she initially started having a go at me.
She also wasn't "exited" from any clique. If there was a clique in the first place then she left it herself. We certainly didn't kick her out and actually were hoping that she was ok at first, until she started getting nasty
:-\
Read it a bit differently. I think she was genuinely upset about the way Butterflies derailed her thread, not the derailing itself. That is what she said, didn't she?
Ah ok I get what you mean now. nah I was talking about me and squiddy there, as it seemed to be us that Les was saying had took the daggers out as soon as Bint disagreed with us or something, which definitely wasn't the case (we were both actually concerned about her getting how she used to be when we first saw that she seemed emotional etc)
If you guys were nothing but concerned, how come it kept getting worse and worse?
See now I'm stuck between wanting to defend myself from that accusation, and needing to agree with you because you're in my clique :emosad:
You two post too fast. :razz:
I don't think everything depended on Squidthing or Adam either.
My point was more that well-meaning concern doesn't always help. After a certain point it just stokes the fire like everything else. But Adam already said that it backfired on him.
I hope she comes back before too long.
My point was more that well-meaning concern doesn't always help.
This drama needs a theme song.
Barry Lyndon Original Sound Track (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEnaZlp2zjY#)
Desperation is a stinky cologne Scrap.
Desperation is a stinky cologne Scrap.
stinky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGylgjSiEOQ#ws)
Scrap misrepresents what I said. Adam agrees and Scrap Agrees with Adam’s agreement of something that he misrepresented. Party lines are backed.
Fucking priceless.
THIS is fucking priceless.
Coming from the King of Straw-man arguments, quote-mining, misrepresentations and other red herrings.
:LMAO:
I notice that you don't actually argue, you attempt to discredit him using insults.
I happily admit to quote mining because I back my shit up. As for the rest...desperate flailing fiction.
Quote mining is a dishonest argumentation technique where you take a persons words out of context to make them sound like they said something they didn't.
'Thanks for admitting to the dishonesty that you engage in. :hahaha:
Quote mining here is simply answering each point, which Sir Les has done when so required.
Desperation is a stinky cologne Scrap.
stinky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGylgjSiEOQ#ws)
Wondered if anyone would get the reference :)
I have to admit, when I argue with Les, he has a habit of just picking up on minor small point, that often has nothing to do with the issue, and just shouts prove it over and over again.
I can't help feeling he would be a total grammer nazi, if he had a better grasp of proper grammer.
I have to admit, when I argue with Les, he has a habit of just picking up on minor small point, that often has nothing to do with the issue, and just shouts prove it over and over again.
I can't help feeling he would be a total grammer nazi, if he had a better grasp of proper grammer.
Ah that is what it meant. I am not an authority on this. I thought you were inferring mining previous posts and referencing them to make a reply.I happily admit to quote mining because I back my shit up. As for the rest...desperate flailing fiction.
Quote mining is a dishonest argumentation technique where you take a persons words out of context to make them sound like they said something they didn't.
'Thanks for admitting to the dishonesty that you engage in. :hahaha:
I have been sleeping with my girlfriend for the last 3 months and things are cool. But now all of a sudden I have a vague suspicion that she has a penis.
Is this happening to you often?
Is what happening to “me” oftenSo it makes as much sense as you saying"I have been sleeping with my girlfriend for the last 3 months and things are cool. But now all of a sudden I have a vague suspicion that she has a penis"If so, then I suggest reconsidering which drinking establishments you choose to frequent.I suggest that your suggestion is either a case of inability to comprehend, or an inability to read.
*Protip. Always check for the Adams Apple. If it's got the apple, you don't wanna grapple.
Surely it is not another case of you rattling off meaningless misrepresented fiction again?
But hey from your encyclopedic knowledge of all things sexual and vast experience in such matters, please keep the sexual protips coming (pun, get it?…of course you do)
You're clearly projecting what you want to be true onto this.
If you consider me to be in a clique , cool , I know I'm not and have not acted in the way you've described so I'm not particularly bothered.
and this is the last post I'm making on the subject.
Since the moment we all conspired to stab Bint in the back apparently. :lol:and why you would say this and further why you would tell Callaway
I find it funny Sir Les chose to word it like that , but meh if that's his opinion so be it.
Nope. Common sense. I know such insight may astound you though Scrap.Yes none of this shit is true and nor do you believe it but it is said anyhow.ZOMG!!! Sir Les is a telepath who can read our mindzz Ooooh Noooeeess!!! :GA:
This is Sir Les' definition of "backing his shit up". :hahaha:
I happily admit to quote mining because I back my shit up. As for the rest...desperate flailing fiction.
Quote mining is a dishonest argumentation technique where you take a persons words out of context to make them sound like they said something they didn't.
'Thanks for admitting to the dishonesty that you engage in. :hahaha:
Quote mining here is simply answering each point, which Sir Les has done when so required.
On the contrary. I've made several posts replying to Les with several paragraphs. Does he reply to all (or even most) of my points? No, he picks out one or two lines out of context, then spends a dozen paragrapgs making straw-man and red-herring arguments and generally engaging in mis-direction.
It's why I don't bother replying to his posts anymore. There's no actual content to reply to.
I have to admit, when I argue with Les, he has a habit of just picking up on minor small point, that often has nothing to do with the issue, and just shouts prove it over and over again.
“Hey there you young whipper snapper! Did I ever tell you the story of my first ramble? I remember my first ramble. It was back in the summer of sixty-four, or sunny-year-mas as we called summer at the time. Anyway, I was rambling about my hat to Neil Armstrong, who said he had been on the moon but I knew it was fake and they made simulated-y it inna lab or Hollywood somewhere. I was once in a lab/Hollywood. There was this family trip... Oh, anyway, back to the subject -have I ever told you about the many ways people pronounce '/' while talking? Oddly, those people who record them, as in quotes, see, always transcribe- err... write, them '/', even if they're bizzarely not similar, like / or / or / or... I knew another sentence I made that went like that, being "punctuation or punctuation or..." once. Funny how it happened. It was just like this, see...”
~ Rambling Old Man on Rambling
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Pointless_Rambling (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Pointless_Rambling)
I happily admit to quote mining because I back my shit up. As for the rest...desperate flailing fiction.
Quote mining is a dishonest argumentation technique where you take a persons words out of context to make them sound like they said something they didn't.
'Thanks for admitting to the dishonesty that you engage in. :hahaha:
Quote mining here is simply answering each point, which Sir Les has done when so required.
On the contrary. I've made several posts replying to Les with several paragraphs. Does he reply to all (or even most) of my points? No, he picks out one or two lines out of context, then spends a dozen paragrapgs making straw-man and red-herring arguments and generally engaging in mis-direction.
It's why I don't bother replying to his posts anymore. There's no actual content to reply to.
....Yet you keep replying.
....Yet you keep replying.
Nope. I've made my points and I don't feel like dragging this shit out. I don't want to participate in the bitchfest.
....Yet you keep replying.
Nope. I've made my points and I don't feel like dragging this shit out. I don't want to participate in the bitchfest.
You still have that strawman and red herring claims to back up, if you ask me.
Oh well.
....Yet you keep replying.
Nope. I've made my points and I don't feel like dragging this shit out. I don't want to participate in the bitchfest.
You still have that strawman and red herring claims to back up, if you ask me.
Oh well.
....Yet you keep replying.
Nope. I've made my points and I don't feel like dragging this shit out. I don't want to participate in the bitchfest.
You still have that strawman and red herring claims to back up, if you ask me.
Oh well.
No for 2 reasons. 1) that'd continue the bitchfest, and 2) Sir Les didn't back up any of his shit either.
....Yet you keep replying.
Nope. I've made my points and I don't feel like dragging this shit out. I don't want to participate in the bitchfest.
You still have that strawman and red herring claims to back up, if you ask me.
Oh well.
And you still haven't told me what I've done to Pandora that was so terrible that you needed to attempt to whip the site into complete moral outrage.
Oh well.
....Yet you keep replying.
Nope. I've made my points and I don't feel like dragging this shit out. I don't want to participate in the bitchfest.
You still have that strawman and red herring claims to back up, if you ask me.
Oh well.
And you still haven't told me what I've done to Pandora that was so terrible that you needed to attempt to whip the site into complete moral outrage.
Oh well.
Protip: If you are simply looking for an explanation without starting anything up, "whip the site into complete moral outrage" is probably not the phrase you are looking for.
Protip: If you are simply looking for an explanation without starting anything up, "whip the site into complete moral outrage" is probably not the phrase you are looking for.
OK fair enough.
I'm going to try and speak to you in good faith here.
I had respect for you, and I also liked you. You started attacking me for something that you believe I have done. Apart from using Pandora to get a reaction from TCO, who was also doing the same thing to me, I genuinely have no idea what I'm supposed to have done wrong.
I am not looking to start up an argument. I am just looking for an explaination. I don't expect us to agree on the moral issues, but I see no reason for us to disagree on the facts, which are on this board, and on FB for everyone to see.
You claim that you have already explained your POV, but you haven't done it very well.
Callaway, who I'm sure you have the utmost respect for, does not appear to have fully understood the accusations either. I gather she read the thread, and then made the comment that I hadn't went onto FB to attack Pandora, but after Pandora attacked Bod, all bets were off. Callaway appeared to believe that you were accusing me of attacking Pandora on FB. I have never attacked her on FB. I also got the impression that you were accusing me of attacking her on FB.
You appear to have suggested that you were so upset because Pandora was collateral damage.
By that logic, TCO was a willing combatant, but you then appeared to be attacking me for something I done to TCO.
In short. I do not have a clue what I really stand accused of. I have no idea if I am guilty or not.
You clearly believe I have done something really bad. Now that the drama is hopefully over, I am simply asking you to let me know what you believe I have done.
I am not looking for you to prove that I'm a bad person. I'm sure if you tried, you could pull out plenty of quotes of me doing bad things. We all know I can be bad.
I simply would like to know what I done to Pandora that justified your reaction.
@Les. No. Odeon is not currently doing anything.
That is why I felt it was a good idea to try and find out, in a civil manner what Odeon felt that I done to Pandora that merrited his response.
Im not looking to argue with him. I just want him to help me understand what I done.
Im sure you would be able to tell me why you have an issue with me, but for now at least, Im only looking for Odeon to answer the question.
Yes, several people joined the so-called posse, but they all had another think about it when all this was pointed out. Everyone but you, that is. There was a willingness to reconsider and to reflect. You, however, made it clear that you saw no reason to. "Yes, it was bad, BUT..."That is because I never done anything to her on FB. I had no reason to reflect on anything.
That same behaviour I think you displayed when Bint called you out. While others were derailing a thread, you were just a bit nastier, pushing things just a little more. To me it looked like the only reason you did it was because you could.There's slightly more to this, but I'm in no position to say what it is.
I don't believe you are bad, Butterflies, but I don't understand this aspect of your behaviour. My mum taught me that if two people fight, you can practically never just blame one of them. Both are to blame. Most people seem to acknowledge this--they are willing to reconsider and admit that sure, they were wrong, too, and say sorry--but not you.I went to reasonable lengths during my argument with Steve to make clear to everyone that I was not the innocent party, and was equally to blame as him.
This is getting very old and boring except the part about you posting from your phone while in the bath and without photos that is getting there too. Dragging this out any longer or debating it any further is just :wanker: . It's a disagreement people have them all the time move on all the posting in the world will not change anyone's opinion and believe me everyone knows where both sides stand.
This is getting very old and boring except the part about you posting from your phone while in the bath and without photos that is getting there too. Dragging this out any longer or debating it any further is just :wanker: . It's a disagreement people have them all the time move on all the posting in the world will not change anyone's opinion and believe me everyone knows where both sides stand.
If you had spent the best part of two weeks having your decency as a person constantly called into question, would you not want to find out what you stood accused of?
I'm doing it in a perfectly civil and decent way, and I'm not creating drama, so I'm not really sure why you would have any problem with me and Odeon attempting to work out any problems we have.
Up until today, I have had no chance to respond to any accusations, because I did not know what the accusations were.
1. Do you think your behaviour towards me over the 2 weeks was reasonable, especially when you could have put your views to me in a reasonable manner, and been responded to in a reasonable manner?
2. Do you want me to leave the site? I am not some feeble troll who gets a kick out of being unwelcome on a site. I know I won't be banned, so I'm giving you the option to politely say that I don't fit into your plans for this site. If so, I will be happy to request deletion, and never be seen here again.
TBH I would strongly prefer to be politely told to fuck off, than be tolerated on a site where I am not welcome.
You must think I done something terrible to Pandora. I still dont have a clue what Ive done, and Im just asking you to tell me, and to explain what was so bad that you appeared to try and hound a girl not even half your age from the site.A girl?! :o And not even half his age?! How dare odeon argue with the weaker sex. And a young one at that! ZOMG odeon! WTF is wrong with you thinking that young females should not be given special dispensation?
From that point on, I'll work against you.
This is getting very old and boring except the part about you posting from your phone while in the bath and without photos that is getting there too. Dragging this out any longer or debating it any further is just :wanker: . It's a disagreement people have them all the time move on all the posting in the world will not change anyone's opinion and believe me everyone knows where both sides stand.
If you had spent the best part of two weeks having your decency as a person constantly called into question, would you not want to find out what you stood accused of?
I'm doing it in a perfectly civil and decent way, and I'm not creating drama, so I'm not really sure why you would have any problem with me and Odeon attempting to work out any problems we have.
Up until today, I have had no chance to respond to any accusations, because I did not know what the accusations were.
I have no problems with it other than it's boring as fuck and it's sucking the fun out of posting. I can not see how it took you this long or had to have it explained in such detail to figure it out as it was fairly clear from the start. Re-engagement is a favored tactic of my kids and it drives me crazy. Right, wrong, good , bad it doesn't matter move on just because you two have disagreements does not mean you are not welcome here
It's not a callout, really, just a little learning experience for Butterflies. I doubt Sir Les is interested in continuing his thread.
And the fuss I create now is nothing in comparison, but important, nevertheless. I think it's necessary for her to find out about how things are on the receiving end for a change.
Isn't as much fun to be on the receiving end, is it?
That's the thing, really. If her behaviour was to become the norm, I think we would all lose.
However I don't want to see your behavioral issues harm people who no longer agree to the terms of I².
Yes, because I had no reason to believe that you would respond in a reasonable manner. At the point I challenged you, I was operating on limited information. It is what it is. The only way I could know how far you would take things is by seeing you do it.
@Les. No. Odeon is not currently doing anything.
That is why I felt it was a good idea to try and find out, in a civil manner what Odeon felt that I done to Pandora that merrited his response.
Im not looking to argue with him. I just want him to help me understand what I done.
Im sure you would be able to tell me why you have an issue with me, but for now at least, Im only looking for Odeon to answer the question.
However. If you cross the line again and take things too far, to the point of people deciding to leave the site,
So this is what I have to ask you, what makes her actions different from mine when to me they're similar?
So this is what I have to ask you, what makes her actions different from mine when to me they're similar?
By this point your reputation precedes you, so - correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see you get into it with people who really have no idea what you're like. You also don't have people tagging along after you, claiming you have impeccable character. I get the sense you'd rip them a new one if anybody tried it. :LOL:
What former members of intensity have I harmed?
What former members of intensity have I harmed?
TCO.
So this is what I have to ask you, what makes her actions different from mine when to me they're similar?
By this point your reputation precedes you, so - correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see you get into it with people who really have no idea what you're like. You also don't have people tagging along after you, claiming you have impeccable character. I get the sense you'd rip them a new one if anybody tried it. :LOL:
So you're saying that you had limited information, but you still decided to attack me for no reason to see how I would react.
That is beyond fucked-up. That is fucking deranged :thumbdn:
I would just be one of a large number of people he left because of. Half the site ended up fighting Steve.
TCO is responsible for the shit that he himself spread here, too.
So this is what I have to ask you, what makes her actions different from mine when to me they're similar?
By this point your reputation precedes you, so - correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see you get into it with people who really have no idea what you're like. You also don't have people tagging along after you, claiming you have impeccable character. I get the sense you'd rip them a new one if anybody tried it. :LOL:
But nobody is claiming to be impeccable. Butterflies can be a right cunt and IMO I find it hilarious, if anything her "innocent" nature is just naivety rather than actual innocence. That said, she's more of "nice to people she likes, a bastard to people she hates" kind of person. :zoinks:
However, I would find you're a different story. You're very backhanded and not very upfront about your actions. I really don't know where to stand with you and I got that vibe from Bint etc. The kind of people I cannot trust. I fucked bint over for her bullshit because I couldn't keep a secret over her bullshit reasons for TOW, for example.
However, I would find you're a different story. You're very backhanded and not very upfront about your actions. I really don't know where to stand with you and I got that vibe from Bint etc. The kind of people I cannot trust. I fucked bint over for her bullshit because I couldn't keep a secret over her bullshit reasons for TOW, for example.
So you're saying that you had limited information, but you still decided to attack me for no reason to see how I would react.
That is beyond fucked-up. That is fucking deranged :thumbdn:
Not for no reason. I had Sir Les' concerns about the site going downhill.
It would be deranged if I really did have no reason. If I were a sociopath. But I'm not, I'm an ordinary human being who understands that there are bad things in the world. I'd rather understand them up front than be caught off guard later.
However, I would find you're a different story. You're very backhanded and not very upfront about your actions. I really don't know where to stand with you and I got that vibe from Bint etc. The kind of people I cannot trust. I fucked bint over for her bullshit because I couldn't keep a secret over her bullshit reasons for TOW, for example.
On the other hand, Bint makes perfect sense to me. It's just a matter of perspective, I think. I know I can be confusing but I did also say openly what I was doing. (Not going to repeat it all here because it was in the Elders forum, but we could take it up there if you want.)
What would it take for me to be trustworthy to you?
But you aren't open. You side with people you antagonise simply to shit stir and then act like it never acted, for one.
But you aren't open. You side with people you antagonise simply to shit stir and then act like it never acted, for one.
???
I agree, and I do see a real underhanded side to Pyraxis. She admitted to deliberately goading me into a fight just because she heard bad stuff about me, and then she complains when I react, even going so far as attempting to get me kicked out of the EF.
She often tries to be nice to anyone who shows me any support, like what she did with you just now. I think she has accused me of being manipulative, despite the fact that being manipulative is one of the few bad personality traits I don't have.
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Les was more than likely using you. If not, then he was certainly speaking out of anger.
Going and attacking someone you do not know, just because someone who has just been in an argument with that person says they're bad is seriously fucked up. At best, it shows that you are a very naive and easily maipulated person.
:trainwreck:
Finally, someone making sense.
I agree, and I do see a real underhanded side to Pyraxis. She admitted to deliberately goading me into a fight just because she heard bad stuff about me, and then she complains when I react, even going so far as attempting to get me kicked out of the EF.
She often tries to be nice to anyone who shows me any support, like what she did with you just now. I think she has accused me of being manipulative, despite the fact that being manipulative is one of the few bad personality traits I don't have.
I am many bad things, but I always give people a second, or a third chance, or usually as many chances as they need.
This applies to you, and I would be more than happy to give you another chance.
It will take me a long time to trust that your motives are genuine though.Les was more than likely using you. If not, then he was certainly speaking out of anger.
Going and attacking someone you do not know, just because someone who has just been in an argument with that person says they're bad is seriously fucked up. At best, it shows that you are a very naive and easily maipulated person.
I doubt he was using me. I don't think he has that kind of guile in him. I wanted to know why he was angry.
You seem to believe any kind of attack is deranged. Am I understanding that right?
No. I believe that attacking someone you don't know, just because someone who is fighting with that person says they're bad, is deranged.
If you believe Les lacks the guile, then you don't know Les.
:trainwreck:
Finally, someone making sense.
:santa: Seriously I went and looked at the site....it's not for me. The :poop: here is making me wonder the same thing. :autism:
:trainwreck:
Finally, someone making sense.
:santa: Seriously I went and looked at the site....it's not for me. The :poop: here is making me wonder the same thing. :autism:
You seem to be unhappy on this site because of all the fighting. If you're not able to ignore it, then it's not worth letting yourself get upset about it.
Aspies for Freedom is a decent site, probably with a lot less fighting than this site.
Here's a link to it http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/ (http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/)
I'm someone who is willing to go a step or to further: That is very true. I do have a fairly serious behaviour boundary issue. The same also applies to my sense of humour. It has affected me my whole life, from punching my head teacher to getting involved in fights against groups of people.
This is something that people have to accept if they are my friend. Sadly, it is unlikely to change anytime in the forseeable future, and TBH the only way I can control this issue is by going into a shell and not showing any personality.
I am sorry I'm like this, but there is nothing I can do about it.
1. Do you think your behaviour towards me over the 2 weeks was reasonable, especially when you could have put your views to me in a reasonable manner, and been responded to in a reasonable manner?
2. Do you want me to leave the site? I am not some feeble troll who gets a kick out of being unwelcome on a site. I know I won't be banned, so I'm giving you the option to politely say that I don't fit into your plans for this site. If so, I will be happy to request deletion, and never be seen here again.
TBH I would strongly prefer to be politely told to fuck off, than be tolerated on a site where I am not welcome.
If you had spent the best part of two weeks having your decency as a person constantly called into question, would you not want to find out what you stood accused of?
This isn't the words of someone having a simple disagreement. This is somebody who is making no secret of the fact that they are deliberately trying punish me to "teach me a lesson."
That goes well beyond a disagreement. If it's still Odeons goal to "teach me what it's like to be on the recieving end," then it would be much better all round if he just asked me to leave the site.
I'm unlikely to change as a person in the near future, and I have absolutely no intention of attempting to change myself to better fit in on an internet forum. This is who I am.
To begin with, I loved this site because I felt like my issues with taking things too far had found a place where they fitted in, and for a while they did. This part of my personality will not change. I will do it again and again, whether I want to or not.
If this is going to result in punishment by the owner of the site, then the decent thing to do would be to tell me politely that my behaviour does not fit in here. I would have no problem with that.
Les never left the site, and I can't believe anybody actually believed his little walkout :facepalm2:
Nobody in their right mind claims that I'm an impeccable character. They do rightly claim that I'm usually nice, and make no secret of my nasty side.
Les was more than likely using you. If not, then he was certainly speaking out of anger.
If you believe Les lacks the guile, then you don't know Les.
It will take me a long time to trust that your motives are genuine though.
No. I believe that attacking someone you don't know, just because someone who is fighting with that person says they're bad, is deranged.
If you believe Les lacks the guile, then you don't know Les.
@Pyraxis. One less enemy is a good thing, so if youre genuine, I will be more than happy to start again with you, with a clean slate.
@Les. Im sure thats an interesting read, but I'll pass.
You appear to br a strange little man, whos online life revolves around long dismal arguments on internet fora. It appears to make you very happy.
I can tell that you desperately want to engage me in a debate, and I have no desire to make you happy, so I'll just ignore it.
I suppose youre free to continue writing lengthy essays at me, but Im unlikely to respond.
You seem like the type Id avoid IRL, and I see no reason to engage you in meaningfull discusion here either.
Of course you can reply Les. Just dont expect me to pay any more attention to you, than I would to a drunk in the street, shouting at a lamppost.
If you could get straight to the point Les, perhaps your posts could be taken more seriously. If I want an essay, I'd walk into college.
If you could get straight to the point Les, perhaps your posts could be taken more seriously. If I want an essay, I'd walk into college.
I totally agree. The internet is awash with interesting articles, written by talented writers.
With all those interesting things to read, I'm hardly likely to waste my time reading the inane ramblings of a dyslexic dwarf.
:trainwreck:
Finally, someone making sense.
:santa: Seriously I went and looked at the site....it's not for me. The :poop: here is making me wonder the same thing. :autism:
You seem to be unhappy on this site because of all the fighting. If you're not able to ignore it, then it's not worth letting yourself get upset about it.
Aspies for Freedom is a decent site, probably with a lot less fighting than this site.
Here's a link to it http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/ (http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/)
:trainwreck:
Finally, someone making sense.
:santa: Seriously I went and looked at the site....it's not for me. The :poop: here is making me wonder the same thing. :autism:
You seem to be unhappy on this site because of all the fighting. If you're not able to ignore it, then it's not worth letting yourself get upset about it.
Aspies for Freedom is a decent site, probably with a lot less fighting than this site.
Here's a link to it http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/ (http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/)
You are right in some ways. AFF is not for me either, tbh, I am not satisfied with any other site that I have seen. But, this place does have a certain give and take and chances for redemption that is just not available elsewhere. So I'll stick around here despite the drunken good ol' boys and bitches. Why? Because I can make a comment as I see fit, I can man up to my mistakes and I have made some friends here. And if people don't like me, they can either talk to me or go fuck off. I have an open mind, but, it only goes so far. This is the internuts and I take certain parts seriously and the rest........ :yawn:
I knew it was a bad idea to reply to you, Butterflies. No way you could simply accept that what I told you was and still is my opinion and my perceptions, and accept that I only replied because you asked me to.
Re Pandora: I meant apologising to her BEFORE she had said a single word. That's when it was still simply Les trying to explain and you refusing to see. Don't try to shift it to an apology wanted after the drama took place. Although that, too, would have impressed me.
The fact of the matter was that several people, you included, started reposting TCO's past posts while he was still banned at his own request. Check if you want. I can't be arsed.
You said you didn't need me quoting stuff (and I'm paraphrasing from the impression I got from your posts asking me to explain) but then brought the quotes yourself, only to highlight the posts I actually apologised for later on, namely those having to do with teaching you a lesson which I still think was unwarranted but made in the heat of the moment. Look at the dates and times. Nice going.
You are moving the goalposts again, Butterflies. Whether or not you do it consciously I don't know or really care about any more, but you are doing it.
As for you staying or going, your choice. Until you posted in good faith or whatever it was, I noticed that you hadn't really participated here so I assumed that you had left, presumably for this thread's namesake site for the cool young ones.
But don't make that choice about me or how you might not fit into my plans for the site because that's bullshit and just a variant of your previous strawmen re me. Or, for that matter, about how you can't change. You know bloody well how this place works and I don't have any plans other than the automated payments to hostgator. You are accountable for your actions, you need to back them up or face the wrath of the community, etc. That's all.
You stay or you go. Not going to decide it for you, it's something you have to do. But if you stay, also know that the site is unlikely to change.
Oh, and to whomever it concerns: Yes, I'm aware of Butterflies being a lot younger than I am. I assumed she wanted to be treated as an adult because a) this site is for adults only and b) the young adults tend to be pissed off when their elders treat them as lesser beings because of their age. Would you prefer me to give her a pat on the head and hope she'll grow up some day?
Re Pandora: I meant apologising to her BEFORE she had said a single word. That's when it was still simply Les trying to explain and you refusing to see. Don't try to shift it to an apology wanted after the drama took place. Although that, too, would have impressed me.I explained that I see apologizing as asking for forgiveness. I wouldn't want Pandoras forgiveness, so I have no need to apologize.
The fact of the matter was that several people, you included, started reposting TCO's past posts while he was still banned at his own request. Check if you want. I can't be arsed.Yes. He was banned. He was on FB trying to get the whole site banned from WP at the time. The thread you speak of was created to link the people from FB to.
You said you didn't need me quoting stuff (and I'm paraphrasing from the impression I got from your posts asking me to explain) but then brought the quotes yourself, only to highlight the posts I actually apologised for later on, namely those having to do with teaching you a lesson which I still think was unwarranted but made in the heat of the moment. Look at the dates and times. Nice going.OK. that's fair enough. I was trying to show Parts that this wasn't some silly disagreement. Perhaps I went about it the wrong way.
BTW, Psychophant, I agree with you. This thread is a fucking train wreck. You should blame me because I was fool enough to reply.
:trainwreck:
Finally, someone making sense.
:santa: Seriously I went and looked at the site....it's not for me. The :poop: here is making me wonder the same thing. :autism:
You seem to be unhappy on this site because of all the fighting. If you're not able to ignore it, then it's not worth letting yourself get upset about it.
Aspies for Freedom is a decent site, probably with a lot less fighting than this site.
Here's a link to it http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/ (http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/)
You are right in some ways. AFF is not for me either, tbh, I am not satisfied with any other site that I have seen. But, this place does have a certain give and take and chances for redemption that is just not available elsewhere. So I'll stick around here despite the drunken good ol' boys and bitches. Why? Because I can make a comment as I see fit, I can man up to my mistakes and I have made some friends here. And if people don't like me, they can either talk to me or go fuck off. I have an open mind, but, it only goes so far. This is the internuts and I take certain parts seriously and the rest........ :yawn:
Fair enough. Just, whatever you do, don't let any of the drama from here drag you down.
I gather this site has a tendency to self-combust occasionally, and it looks like we're going through a bad period ATM. I assume the drama will end eventually.
My guess is that it will run until Christmas, at least in some form. A lot of us will probably not be on here much over Christmas and New Year, so that might give things a chance to die.
I don't remember recieving an apology from you though.
I don't remember recieving an apology from you though.
You didn't read the thread you are posting in?
Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
Maybe there weren't enough people considered sufficiently cool to post there?
Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
It happened because postwhores like us have given up! To the rescue, I say! :viking:
Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
Maybe there weren't enough people considered sufficiently cool to post there?
I am cool enough to post anywhere I want! 8)
Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
Maybe there weren't enough people considered sufficiently cool to post there?
Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
It happened because postwhores like us have given up! To the rescue, I say! :viking:
I've managed to out postwhore you! I'm almost to 400 posts. 8)
Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
It happened because postwhores like us have given up! To the rescue, I say! :viking:
I've managed to out postwhore you! I'm almost to 400 posts. 8)
Yeah, but how many of those are pr0n or airplane pics? :P
Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
It happened because postwhores like us have given up! To the rescue, I say! :viking:
I've managed to out postwhore you! I'm almost to 400 posts. 8)
Yeah, but how many of those are pr0n or airplane pics? :P
Not all of them. some of them are cafe racer pics. :headbang2:
Holy shit. I think that might just save the site, if only through not being dead as a result of lots of food posts. Will you join me in a food thread?Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
It happened because postwhores like us have given up! To the rescue, I say! :viking:
I've managed to out postwhore you! I'm almost to 400 posts. 8)
Yeah, but how many of those are pr0n or airplane pics? :P
Not all of them. some of them are cafe racer pics. :headbang2:
I could match your count by spamming with pics of food, but I won't. :M
Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
It happened because postwhores like us have given up! To the rescue, I say! :viking:
I've managed to out postwhore you! I'm almost to 400 posts. 8)
Yeah, but how many of those are pr0n or airplane pics? :P
Not all of them. some of them are cafe racer pics. :headbang2:
I could match your count by spamming with pics of food, but I won't. :M
Holy shit. I think that might just save the site, if only through not being dead as a result of lots of food posts. Will you join me in a food thread?Spasticity has already become a ghost town. How did that happen??
It happened because postwhores like us have given up! To the rescue, I say! :viking:
I've managed to out postwhore you! I'm almost to 400 posts. 8)
Yeah, but how many of those are pr0n or airplane pics? :P
Not all of them. some of them are cafe racer pics. :headbang2:
I could match your count by spamming with pics of food, but I won't. :M
I'll give it another month. If it still lacks activity, I'll back it up and close it down. The host will remain however, I use it to store my own files too.
Most sites resulting from drama elsewhere tend not to last. Remember OTS?
Most sites resulting from drama elsewhere tend not to last. Remember OTS?
Yeah I think spasticity is best as a younger-orientated (young in mind I mean, I'm not gonna exclude the cool older people from that :zoinks: ) version of intensity, without the bullshit
the problem isn't that there arent enough cool people to post there (there are), but that maybe it actually NEEDS one or two of the more boring ones who are also more likely to have disagreementsSo you got Scrap (40 IIRC) who is combative, not exactly young and willing to throw old fuckers under the bus (as in "I'm older but cool anyway") to join via sucking up to the younger = cooler mindset and shit looks like it may not last @ Spasticity anyway? How could you fuck it up with a winning formula like that? :dunno: :LMAO:
Yeah I think spasticity is best as a younger-orientated (young in mind I mean, I'm not gonna exclude the cool older people from that :zoinks: ) version of intensity, without the bullshitthe problem isn't that there arent enough cool people to post there (there are), but that maybe it actually NEEDS one or two of the more boring ones who are also more likely to have disagreementsSo you got Scrap (40 IIRC) who is combative, not exactly young and willing to throw old fuckers under the bus (as in "I'm older but cool anyway") to join via sucking up to the younger = cooler mindset and shit looks like it may not last @ Spasticity anyway? How could you fuck it up with a winning formula like that? :dunno: :LMAO:
No one panders to anyone on there, there's just none of that haughty i2 callout wank that you see here. How is that young-orientated?
S2 to me is aimed for everyone, but even though it's an aspie-orientated forum it's not about whinging about their problems. There's no AS-related forums to be seen, everything's aimed towards general discussion and having a few laughs. Drama can happen but it's not centred around it. It's more like ZOMG with elements of i2, it doesn't try to blatantly copy any place except in order to make various members be familiar with it. Frankly I'm surprised it lasted this long. :tard:
No one panders to anyone on there, there's just none of that haughty i2 callout wank that you see here. How is that young-orientated?
S2 to me is aimed for everyone, but even though it's an aspie-orientated forum it's not about whinging about their problems. There's no AS-related forums to be seen, everything's aimed towards general discussion and having a few laughs. Drama can happen but it's not centred around it. It's more like ZOMG with elements of i2, it doesn't try to blatantly copy any place except in order to make various members be familiar with it. Frankly I'm surprised it lasted this long. :tard:
Superboyian has a forum? Don't see him much around here, seems like a cool guy.
So quit your passive-aggressive whining about it and show the cool people how it's supposed to be done. :yawn:
So quit your passive-aggressive whining about it and show the cool people how it's supposed to be done. :yawn:
Funny, for a 22 page thread about this I barely responded about the forum.
EDIT: How about you give me advice on how it's supposed to be done? :orly:
I'm not sure why people keep bringing up s2 being a site for the "cool aspies." If anybody did say that it was, they were unlikely to be serious.
One of the first things I done was invite Penty, and not long afterwards, Richard.
Yeah I think spasticity is best as a younger-orientated (young in mind I mean, I'm not gonna exclude the cool older people from that :zoinks: ) version of intensity, without the bullshit
the problem isn't that there arent enough cool people to post there (there are), but that maybe it actually NEEDS one or two of the more boring ones who are also more likely to have disagreements
I'm not sure why people keep bringing up s2 being a site for the "cool aspies." If anybody did say that it was, they were unlikely to be serious.
One of the first things I done was invite Penty, and not long afterwards, Richard.Yeah I think spasticity is best as a younger-orientated (young in mind I mean, I'm not gonna exclude the cool older people from that :zoinks: ) version of intensity, without the bullshitthe problem isn't that there arent enough cool people to post there (there are), but that maybe it actually NEEDS one or two of the more boring ones who are also more likely to have disagreements
Holy Forum Soap Opera Batman!!!!!!!!!!
Did odeon and Sir Les just commit an Ascan and accuse Spasticity as being a "New Aspie Elite"??:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Yeah, but it's not going to be an anti-i2 site or anything. Although people can bitch about it if they want.Of course not. Why would anyone think it was anti-I2 or born from such sentiment? Hardly needed saying Shleed.I hope it doesn't become the bitchfest that I2 is right now.Surprised there's already so much activity in only a night. People must REALLY be sick of i2.Being like this place, but without the misplaced moral outrage would be a good thing.Yeah I think spasticity is best as a …. version of intensity, without the bullshitIt might be a good option for anyone who thinks this site has gone downhill recently.….. except as a place for when people are tired of having to see constant drama on websites like i2.
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Soph can choose to address that or not. Likewise for Scrap. I find the apparent disgust about "drama", "moral outrage" etc by some here, including you, to smell like bullshit given that you, Scrap and Soph and others* have done your share of shit stirring here and elsewhere. You just don't like the direction some of the discussion has taken lately. Not liking some discussions is understandable, pretending that argumentative shit is something new on this site is disingenuous.**I'm not sure why people keep bringing up s2 being a site for the "cool aspies." If anybody did say that it was, they were unlikely to be serious.
One of the first things I done was invite Penty, and not long afterwards, Richard.Yeah I think spasticity is best as a younger-orientated (young in mind I mean, I'm not gonna exclude the cool older people from that :zoinks: ) version of intensity, without the bullshitthe problem isn't that there arent enough cool people to post there (there are), but that maybe it actually NEEDS one or two of the more boring ones who are also more likely to have disagreements
One person on the site has made a couple of comments about wanting cool members.
Adam has also made similar comments about wanting more cool members here, but nobody would say that this is a site for the "cool aspies," just because of a comment by Adam.
YOu both know that this cool place for young aspies and a better alternative to I2 is precisely wht YOU and Adam and Shleed and Butterflies were saying. Odeon and PPK and I are repeating what YOU have been saying, so why try to bullshit about this and say it starts from us?
YOu both know that this cool place for young aspies and a better alternative to I2 is precisely wht YOU and Adam and Shleed and Butterflies were saying. Odeon and PPK and I are repeating what YOU have been saying, so why try to bullshit about this and say it starts from us?
Bullshit! I never said that S2 was supposed to be a "cooler" place. Soph said that. You're putting words in my mouth.
Talk about rewriting history. ::)
The only thing I ever said was that I hope it didn't become a bitch fest. :facepalm2:
:fp:
I'm sure you might even believe that, but me, I think the quotes summarise what happened quite nicely. For those who want more, reading the whole thread should do the job.
^I am getting the impression that you think Pentagram and richard are "uncool" and you invited them despite this. It bothers me. It is like pity or something. I am getting that because you have explicitly stated that you invited them instead of simply saying nothing about it.
^I am getting the impression that you think Pentagram and richard are "uncool" and you invited them despite this. It bothers me. It is like pity or something. I am getting that because you have explicitly stated that you invited them instead of simply saying nothing about it.
I like Penty, but he is not seen as cool by a lot of people. Im sure he would be the first to acknowledge this.
I am mentioning it to counter Odeon and Les' attempts to rewrite history.
This is bullshit. Les has simply printed a list of criticisms of Intensity. He has not shown any evidence that there has ever been an effort made to make the site exclusive.
Odeon is talking shit again. He claims that I am involved in trying to "mask the sentiment." I was never of the sentiment that s2 was for cool people. I invited Penty.
Yeah, but it's not going to be an anti-i2 site or anything. Although people can bitch about it if they want.So let’s see if we would have any reason for thinking that Spastcity was set up (at a time of a lot of drama at I2) might have been set up as ant-I2 OR set up for cooler or younger Aspies. Perhaps if the below comments don’t give that impression then you are right Butterflies and so is Shleed and Scrap and Adam.
I hope it doesn't become the bitchfest that I2 is right now.This is critical of I2 certainly, but not all together promoting Spasticity as a better alternative.
Surprised there's already so much activity in only a night. People must REALLY be sick of i2.One busy opening night and so the site is a success and it is because people are sick of i2 or because it is new. I think we have the answer to that already. This is more of a put-down of I2 to boost efforts at Spasticity (Like a “Hey guys we are having fun over there. Come on over. This place sucks’).
Being like this place, but without the misplaced moral outrage would be a good thing.Yes the mysterious misplaced moral outrage that is so easy to type and so hard to actually back up. This is definitely spruicking and very much trying to say Spasticity is better than I2.
Yeah I think spasticity is best as a …. version of intensity, without the bullshitDitto
It might be a good option for anyone who thinks this site has gone downhill recently.Ditto
….. except as a place for when people are tired of having to see constant drama on websites like i2.Ditto
For those of you who might be interested, it looks like Shleed is trying to get Spasticity going again.Scrap on here
From the looks of it, it's going to be like Intensity, except marketed towards younger members.
I hope it doesn't become the bitchfest that I2 is right now.
So not aimed for everyone but is it just aimed at younger members. Just younger members?I decided to let them transfer from the old forum, a bit of money but messing with cpanel will take some getting used to. :dunno:
So what are your plans for Spasticity 2.0??
So far it just seems like here, except marketed towards younger members.
Will there be a significant difference between the two sites??
Yeah I think spasticity is best as a younger-orientated (young in mind I mean, I'm not gonna exclude the cool older people from that :zoinks: ) version of intensity, without the bullshit
You have, on several occasions, refered to the site as being for "the cool aspies."
@Odeon. Yes. Its a quote from a member. Adam has said similar stuff about attracting cool people here.
@Les. Yes. Those quotes do show some anti-i2 sentiment. They dont suggest at any desire for s2 to have an exclusive membership though.
@Odeon. Yes. Its a quote from a member. Adam has said similar stuff about attracting cool people here.
@Les. Yes. Those quotes do show some anti-i2 sentiment. They dont suggest at any desire for s2 to have an exclusive membership though.
Meaning that we didn't rewrite anything. I suppose that is as close as we'll get to an admission?
The anti-I2 sentiment implies excluding those accused of "moral outrage", just to pick but one example. Or the uncool older aspies.
You don't have to state something like that directly, Butterflies. Don't insult our intelligence by saying that you've missed the implications.
Re the aspie elite comment: Scrap, please point out whatever similarities you see, because frankly, I see none.
IntensitySquared: Odeon, you son of a Finnish whore! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZFrezItQik#ws)
SOP for shleed.IntensitySquared: Odeon, you son of a Finnish whore! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZFrezItQik#ws)
you a little drunk there schleed?
IntensitySquared: Odeon, you son of a Finnish whore! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZFrezItQik#ws)
you a little drunk there schleed?
This is bullshit. Someone from S2 has done something that some of you disagree with.
Plenty of us here have done shitty stuff to others, myself included. Not sure why a couple of people seem so interested in S2.
It's not "marketed" at anything and that was never my intention, except as a place for when people are tired of having to see constant drama on websites like i2....
Just playing the messenger. He requested it to be posted.
@Callaway. I do think personal attacks are OK here. I cant see Pees vids ATM though. Posting from phone.
This site has always been full of personal attacks. I have made some myself. Some I regret, and some I dont.
On a free speech site, people have to have the right to say what they want. You might not like what they say, but they have the right to say it.
I think we have to consider how we would treat someone who is not popular on the site. Personal attacks are tolerated, if not encouraged, on some of the bigger dicks on the site.
Odeon does not deserve special treatment, and his behaviour has been terrible recently, so Im not surprised hes attracted attention.
@Callaway. I do think personal attacks are OK here. I cant see Pees vids ATM though. Posting from phone.
This site has always been full of personal attacks. I have made some myself. Some I regret, and some I dont.
On a free speech site, people have to have the right to say what they want. You might not like what they say, but they have the right to say it.
I think we have to consider how we would treat someone who is not popular on the site. Personal attacks are tolerated, if not encouraged, on some of the bigger dicks on the site.
Odeon does not deserve special treatment, and his behaviour has been terrible recently, so Im not surprised hes attracted attention.
Just playing the messenger. He requested it to be posted.
@Callaway. I do think personal attacks are OK here. I cant see Pees vids ATM though. Posting from phone.
This site has always been full of personal attacks. I have made some myself. Some I regret, and some I dont.
On a free speech site, people have to have the right to say what they want. You might not like what they say, but they have the right to say it.
I think we have to consider how we would treat someone who is not popular on the site. Personal attacks are tolerated, if not encouraged, on some of the bigger dicks on the site.
Odeon does not deserve special treatment, and his behaviour has been terrible recently, so Im not surprised hes attracted attention.
Personal attacks like this, including personal information and violating personal privacy, are not OK, Butterflies, and they will never be OK here. They violate the TOS and I'm not going to tolerate them on a site I pay for. It's not going to happen, not in the name of free speech, not in the name of anything.
What is this terrible behaviour I've been guilty of recently? Did I post your personal information, or Schleed's, or someone else's? Did I spread untrue personal information? What, exactly, did I do?
If you think me and Sir Les quoting posts and interpreting those posts differently than you or Schleed or, for that matter, Peaguy, is on par with this bullshit, you have a serious problem, but one that you will need to handle elsewhere.
IntensitySquared: Odeon, you son of a Finnish whore! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZFrezItQik#ws)
you a little drunk there schleed?
That isn't Scheed, that's Peaguy.
Just playing the messenger. He requested it to be posted.
Post something like that again and you are out.
Just playing the messenger. He requested it to be posted.
Post something like that again and you are out.
Always twisting the TOS to your agenda, I see. Hostgator does not mention revealing personal info as a violation of TOS, especially when it's not done by the person posting.
It seems to me that it's a S2 team effort since Pea made the YouTube as a nasty personal attack and Schleed (who is the owner and admin of S2) reposted it here. Do you think personal attacks like this are acceptable?
It seems to me that it's a S2 team effort since Pea made the YouTube as a nasty personal attack and Schleed (who is the owner and admin of S2) reposted it here. Do you think personal attacks like this are acceptable?
I could be misreading you here.
Are you implying all members of spasticity are in on this? , or are you referring to a ""S2 team effort" between Pea and Schleed?
If it's the latter , I think thats pretty unfair considering , I , Bodie , CBC and other S2 members have stayed out of this.
It seems to me that it's a S2 team effort since Pea made the YouTube as a nasty personal attack and Schleed (who is the owner and admin of S2) reposted it here. Do you think personal attacks like this are acceptable?
I could be misreading you here.
Are you implying all members of spasticity are in on this? , or are you referring to a ""S2 team effort" between Pea and Schleed?
If it's the latter , I think thats pretty unfair considering , I , Bodie , CBC and other S2 members have stayed out of this.
It seems to me that it's a S2 team effort since Pea made the YouTube as a nasty personal attack and Schleed (who is the owner and admin of S2) reposted it here. Do you think personal attacks like this are acceptable?
I could be misreading you here.
Are you implying all members of spasticity are in on this? , or are you referring to a ""S2 team effort" between Pea and Schleed?
If it's the latter , I think thats pretty unfair considering , I , Bodie , CBC and other S2 members have stayed out of this.
why call it a spasticity team efffort tho? would it an I2 team effort if you and [random i2 member] did something and no one else on here was involved/knew about it?
... so he posted it on Spasticity and requested that it be reposted here. The admin and owner of Spasticity decided to oblige him after seeing the video, I think to stir up some of the drama he claims he wants to avoid. I believe that makes it a Spasticity team effort.
Just because I think it's a team effort does not imply that I believe every single member of Spasticity cooperated in this. You are correct that you, Bodie, CBC, Zippo, etc. did not do that.
It seems to me that it's a S2 team effort since Pea made the YouTube as a nasty personal attack and Schleed (who is the owner and admin of S2) reposted it here. Do you think personal attacks like this are acceptable?
I could be misreading you here.
Are you implying all members of spasticity are in on this? , or are you referring to a ""S2 team effort" between Pea and Schleed?
If it's the latter , I think thats pretty unfair considering , I , Bodie , CBC and other S2 members have stayed out of this.
Pea could not have posted a video claiming malicious things that violated Odeon's privacy here, so he posted it on Spasticity and requested that it be reposted here. The admin and owner of Spasticity decided to oblige him after seeing the video, I think to stir up some of the drama he claims he wants to avoid. I believe that makes it a Spasticity team effort. Just because I think it's a team effort does not imply that I believe every single member of Spasticity cooperated in this. You are correct that you, Bodie, CBC, Zippo, etc. did not do that.
Please not another semantic argument.
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Seriously though, has anybody looked at the official Intensity TOS lately? It includes gems such as this:QuoteYou agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material. Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also forbidden on this forum.Wait, we're not allowed to post any sexually oriented material? Or material that's inaccurate, profane, or hateful? Somebody better spread the word before the agents in dark glasses come knocking....
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Odeon did do some form of special pleading there. And there are better reasons to state other than that he pays for the forum. This "I didn't pay for the privilege of having my privacy violated" is weak and not a good excuse to use at all as an admin/moderator.
What would you consider a better reason? IMO it's more honest for Odeon to state he gets special privileges than to phrase it as some pretense of equality.
What would you consider a better reason? IMO it's more honest for Odeon to state he gets special privileges than to phrase it as some pretense of equality.
What was actually in the video?
What was actually in the video?
^I am getting the impression that you think Pentagram and richard are "uncool" and you invited them despite this. It bothers me. It is like pity or something. I am getting that because you have explicitly stated that you invited them instead of simply saying nothing about it.
^I am getting the impression that you think Pentagram and richard are "uncool" and you invited them despite this. It bothers me. It is like pity or something. I am getting that because you have explicitly stated that you invited them instead of simply saying nothing about it.
You word what was boggling in my mind.
What was actually in the video?
pea HAS used odeons full name and an address im assuming is odeons too. does he not know this yet?
... so he posted it on Spasticity and requested that it be reposted here. The admin and owner of Spasticity decided to oblige him after seeing the video, I think to stir up some of the drama he claims he wants to avoid. I believe that makes it a Spasticity team effort.
^^^ this, contradicts this vvvQuoteJust because I think it's a team effort does not imply that I believe every single member of Spasticity cooperated in this. You are correct that you, Bodie, CBC, Zippo, etc. did not do that.
2 people cooperating doesn't make something a Spasticity effort any more than Squid and Butterflies' trolling of WP was an I2 effort. :facepalm2:
Oh FFS. There aren't enough facepalms for this.
You know what makes me sick? Pea went around at one point asking for people's names and addresses so he could send them Christmas cards. I can only assume that's where he got Odeon's from. This is a hell of a way to repay the offer of benevolence that a Christmas card exchange implies.
Pea needs to get a life.
Two years later and he's still beating the same drum. :yawn:
Get over it, who the fuck cares?
You can't be anything other than cool, Bodie. Sorry.
You can't be anything other than cool, Bodie. Sorry.
It's true, Bodie, unfortunately you must shoulder the burden of coolness! 8)