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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: Adam on June 08, 2011, 11:37:02 AM
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this is the latest one:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/facebook-enables-facial-recognition-setting-without-warning-use.html
Some of the comments on there are really stupid:
Face book is for sad lonely people who want the world to know what they had for breakfast
Get a real life -not an on-line on
These sites should be outlawed, they do whatever they feel fit and are invading privacy, destroying peoples lives and getting people fired for no more than not liking the boss which most people do not anyway
::)
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It's the same reason that people complain about CCTV: people have a right to privacy.
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It's the same reason that people complain about CCTV: people have a right to privacy.
There is a difference.
You sign up to facebook out of choice , CCTV is not a choice.
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Define a;lways pleez k, thanx.
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Exactly. it's a fucking website. no one makes you join it. and you can easily delette your account.
also I don't really see how this violates privacy any more - people were already able to tag their friends anyway ???
and CCTV is in public, not private. therefore, umm, not private
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Exactly. it's a fucking website. no one makes you join it. and you can easily delette your account.
also I don't really see how this violates privacy any more - people were already able to tag their friends anyway ???
and CCTV is in public, not private. therefore, umm, not private
Other people can post pictures of you without your permission, even if you don't have a Facebook account.
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Exactly. it's a fucking website. no one makes you join it. and you can easily delette your account.
also I don't really see how this violates privacy any more - people were already able to tag their friends anyway ???
and CCTV is in public, not private. therefore, umm, not private
Other people can post pictures of you without your permission, even if you don't have a Facebook account.
yeah? what's new there? that could be done previously
and people can post pictures anywhere on the internet
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Exactly. it's a fucking website. no one makes you join it. and you can easily delette your account.
also I don't really see how this violates privacy any more - people were already able to tag their friends anyway ???
and CCTV is in public, not private. therefore, umm, not private
Deleting it doesn't help as that only deactivates the account. Besides even if it is deleted, once the information is stored on the servers, it's likely being copied and sold to marketing firms or shared with 'interested parties' anyway. The saying goes, "The internet never forgets".
I also doubt Facebook became a powerhouse social networking site over conventional revenue ads or it's gimmicks, and that's kinds of what makes Facebook a bit... unsettling to me.
It's practically one of the greatest personal information database and spy tool of the 21st century. What's makes it so beautiful is that people willingly provide the information for this database, that it was franchised as a trend that people don't object to or understand the consequences of, it is amazing.
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Maybe most people just aren't paranoid
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Exactly. it's a fucking website. no one makes you join it. and you can easily delette your account.
also I don't really see how this violates privacy any more - people were already able to tag their friends anyway ???
and CCTV is in public, not private. therefore, umm, not private
Other people can post pictures of you without your permission, even if you don't have a Facebook account.
People could do that anywhere and may ways. Facebook is something you willing enter into and should know the risks
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Exactly. it's a fucking website. no one makes you join it. and you can easily delette your account.
also I don't really see how this violates privacy any more - people were already able to tag their friends anyway ???
and CCTV is in public, not private. therefore, umm, not private
Other people can post pictures of you without your permission, even if you don't have a Facebook account.
People could do that anywhere and may ways. Facebook is something you willing enter into and should know the risks
:agreed:
it's no different to any other site in that regard. just much more popular
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How many people really read the disclaimers and terms of use? It's all in there
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What did they mean by no privacy? You can make your profile private, now you can hide your family too and friends. You can decided what your friends can see on your page.
But if you want to share certain things to your friends on facebook, make a separate account and have them on there. There are things I don't post on Facebook such as about AS because I don't want my family to see it or my high school mates.
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I think it is just a sign of the times and nothing to be paranoid about too much. There is
lots of new technology being developed to collect data.
If you don't want people to know stuff about you, just don't post it to begin with.
:dunno: That is the simple way i see it.
I try not to take facebook too seriously anyway :zoinks:
(http://randomfunnypicture.com/wp2/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/facebook-you-vs-real-you-gif.gif)
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I think it is just a sign of the times and nothing to be paranoid about too much. There is
lots of new technology being developed to collect data.
If you don't want people to know stuff about you, just don't post it to begin with.
:dunno: That is the simple way i see it.
I try not to take facebook too seriously anyway :zoinks:
(http://randomfunnypicture.com/wp2/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/facebook-you-vs-real-you-gif.gif)
HAHA. That douche picture looks familiar :LOL:
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Define a;lways pleez k, thanx.
It means "at a;ll times".
Obviously.
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Maybe most people just aren't paranoid
Or maybe they are just wilfully ignorant, wanting to be blind from seeing what society is heading towards as a result of this. They turned the concept of giving up privacy willingly as a trendy thing to do and managed to centralise it into one massive database, it's rather genius.
I see the immense potential in how such information can be used to predict and neutralise political dissent before it even emerges, or worse manipulate people into favouring trends that further erode their rights.
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Your posts are four threes, professor.
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Your posts are four threes, professor.
Not anymore. :P
But eh, I'm not too concerned as I don't have a Facebook or mobile phone. But I have a feeling it's going to get to a point where life will become difficult if you don't have either. That's kind of how things are forced onto you eventually as more systems integrate Facebook and/or the requirement of a mobile phone number, so eventually, you won't have a choice to avoid it if you want a comfortable life.
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Don't have facebook or phone either. The forced notion seems a stretch on first thought, but having lived through the evolution of plastic tender, have to say it's a very interesting perception and who knows what power virtual social networking will hold three or four decades from now.
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Your posts are four threes, professor.
Not anymore. :P
But eh, I'm not too concerned as I don't have a Facebook or mobile phone. But I have a feeling it's going to get to a point where life will become difficult if you don't have either. That's kind of how things are forced onto you eventually as more systems integrate Facebook and/or the requirement of a mobile phone number, so eventually, you won't have a choice to avoid it if you want a comfortable life.
They said the same thing about driver's licenses. Personally, I just don't think I am interesting enough or important enough for big brother to give a shit about what I am up to.
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Your posts are four threes, professor.
Not anymore. :P
But eh, I'm not too concerned as I don't have a Facebook or mobile phone. But I have a feeling it's going to get to a point where life will become difficult if you don't have either. That's kind of how things are forced onto you eventually as more systems integrate Facebook and/or the requirement of a mobile phone number, so eventually, you won't have a choice to avoid it if you want a comfortable life.
They said the same thing about driver's licenses. Personally, I just don't think I am interesting enough or important enough for big brother to give a shit about what I am up to.
No they wouldn't, but they can sure as hell make sure it never goes beyond that.
The way I see it, knowledge is power.
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It may seem paranoid, but if there's one advantage of being paranoid it's this, I am hyper-vigilant and see the enormous potential on how to manipulate, entice and blackmail people with information I could obtain from someone's Facebook by hopes they or one of their friends "friend" me on there. It could range from destroying their friendships/relationships/job prospects to getting them arrested for a confessed crime, or a rare worse case, get them beaten up/killed even (if someone is already out for their blood and you just happen to let them know where they live). You could argue that before online social networking this happens and why should it be any different now? Well time is the difference, before it was a bit too time consuming and costly to even bother, but now that's no longer a problem.
So if I can think of cunning ways to abuse information to play people to my interests, surely I'm not the only one thinking that.
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Sure, but what are the chances of someone actually doing that? (ie someone on your facebook using information you've posted to find out where you live and beat you up. that's pretty extreme)
People seem to be forgetting that you're not FORCED to post where you live or your phone number or wife etc etc etc
And you have control over who sees what
I find it very hard to talk to people in person, so facebook has helped me LOADS with my relationships with family members (as sad as that may sound). I'm not gonna give that up over some paranoid fear that an old schoolfriend is suddenly gonna decide to track me down and kill me
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Don't have facebook or phone either. The forced notion seems a stretch on first thought, but having lived through the evolution of plastic tender, have to say it's a very interesting perception and who knows what power virtual social networking will hold three or four decades from now.
Good for you :plus: for being :viking: and not following the pack
Opps your the one that doesn't want the :plus: will :minusevil: later to even you out but you get the idea
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Sure, but what are the chances of someone actually doing that? (ie someone on your facebook using information you've posted to find out where you live and beat you up. that's pretty extreme)
People seem to be forgetting that you're not FORCED to post where you live or your phone number or wife etc etc etc
And you have control over who sees what
I find it very hard to talk to people in person, so facebook has helped me LOADS with my relationships with family members (as sad as that may sound). I'm not gonna give that up over some paranoid fear that an old schoolfriend is suddenly gonna decide to track me down and kill me
Very low for the extreme example but higher for anything less. But more subtle methods can be done without any physical harm, but with lots of emotional distress.
Yes you can choose what to hide or omit, but it doesn't stop other family members, friends, co-workers, community groups, exs, former friends, etc from sharing information that can trace to you or reveal your daily habits and secrets though, and they happen to have a public profile. But I suppose then it's pointless to argue about it as no matter what, you cannot hide everything you hold private or secret if there's a risk it'll be announced on the internet; and the only way to do so is to never mention it to anyone.
And that is why Facebook and social networking is so powerful as a source of information and potential control. I'm actually in awe and admire how brilliant it is.
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Very low for the extreme example but higher for anything less. But more subtle methods can be done without any physical harm, but with lots of emotional distress.
Yes you can choose what to hide or omit, but it doesn't stop other family members, friends, co-workers, community groups, exs, former friends, etc from sharing information that can trace to you or reveal your daily habits and secrets though, and they happen to have a public profile. But I suppose then it's pointless to argue about it as no matter what, you cannot hide everything you hold private or secret if there's a risk it'll be announced on the internet; and the only way to do so is to never mention it to anyone.
And that is why Facebook and social networking is so powerful as a source of information and potential control. I'm actually in awe and admire how brilliant it is.
You make good points. I have one but I barely use it, don't store much information there, and keep it separate from the rest of my online life.
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Sure, but what are the chances of someone actually doing that? (ie someone on your facebook using information you've posted to find out where you live and beat you up. that's pretty extreme)
People seem to be forgetting that you're not FORCED to post where you live or your phone number or wife etc etc etc
And you have control over who sees what
I find it very hard to talk to people in person, so facebook has helped me LOADS with my relationships with family members (as sad as that may sound). I'm not gonna give that up over some paranoid fear that an old schoolfriend is suddenly gonna decide to track me down and kill me
Very low for the extreme example but higher for anything less. But more subtle methods can be done without any physical harm, but with lots of emotional distress.
Yes you can choose what to hide or omit, but it doesn't stop other family members, friends, co-workers, community groups, exs, former friends, etc from sharing information that can trace to you or reveal your daily habits and secrets though, and they happen to have a public profile. But I suppose then it's pointless to argue about it as no matter what, you cannot hide everything you hold private or secret if there's a risk it'll be announced on the internet; and the only way to do so is to never mention it to anyone.
And that is why Facebook and social networking is so powerful as a source of information and potential control. I'm actually in awe and admire how brilliant it is.
:agreed:
I don't have a Facebook account or a cellphone either.
I know someone who lost her job over something she posted about her co-worker on Facebook and her profile was set to "friends only."
Apparently, someone she considered a "Facebook friend" showed her boss what she had written about the co-worker and she doesn't even know which "friend" it was. She protested about the invasion of privacy, but it didn't do her any good. What she said about the co-worker wasn't even that bad; I think it was something like, "You thought that you were screwing me, but you were really screwing yourself."
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Sure, but what are the chances of someone actually doing that? (ie someone on your facebook using information you've posted to find out where you live and beat you up. that's pretty extreme)
People seem to be forgetting that you're not FORCED to post where you live or your phone number or wife etc etc etc
And you have control over who sees what
I find it very hard to talk to people in person, so facebook has helped me LOADS with my relationships with family members (as sad as that may sound). I'm not gonna give that up over some paranoid fear that an old schoolfriend is suddenly gonna decide to track me down and kill me
Very low for the extreme example but higher for anything less. But more subtle methods can be done without any physical harm, but with lots of emotional distress.
Yes you can choose what to hide or omit, but it doesn't stop other family members, friends, co-workers, community groups, exs, former friends, etc from sharing information that can trace to you or reveal your daily habits and secrets though, and they happen to have a public profile. But I suppose then it's pointless to argue about it as no matter what, you cannot hide everything you hold private or secret if there's a risk it'll be announced on the internet; and the only way to do so is to never mention it to anyone.
And that is why Facebook and social networking is so powerful as a source of information and potential control. I'm actually in awe and admire how brilliant it is.
:agreed:
I don't have a Facebook account or a cellphone either.
I know someone who lost her job over something she posted about her co-worker on Facebook and her profile was set to "friends only."
Apparently, someone she considered a "Facebook friend" showed her boss what she had written about the co-worker and she doesn't even know which "friend" it was. She protested about the invasion of privacy, but it didn't do her any good. What she said about the co-worker wasn't even that bad; I think it was something like, "You thought that you were screwing me, but you were really screwing yourself."
Which is exactly what I'm talking about, but imagine if corporations or government did this kind of 'exposing' by stealth in order to neutralise potential dissent, criticism or worse exposure before it can happen. People hold a lot of personal secrets or secrets of others, some which can destroy relationships and job prospects and that is more than enough to cripple someone from being a threat, all without revealing yourself. That's where the power of possessing such vast quantities of information from multiple sources comes from (so even if you don't reveal anything, your friend might purposely or accidentally). It has the capacity to literally change someone's life to whatever direction you want it to go, either secretly help them get in the right place or destroy everything they hold dear with a few words with the right people. Worse part about it is that, people will shrug off such a thing as a conspiracy theory because no-one would be willing to think they would be that cunning or resourceful enough.
But HBGary e-mails has already revealed plans by the U.S government to deploy persona management software which allows a few operators to control an entire army of realistic behaving sockpuppets (and avoid personality clashes) with ease. Now imagine applying an search algorithm that seeks out information on social networking sites for keywords and certain type of opinions you don't like, and use it to bombard undesirable targets within a realistic time frame. The goal would then be to discredit the targets by character assassination via acquired information or sway opinions against that thought and appear as if a lot of people disagree with you. Alternatively, it can be used for the opposite effect to promote a desirable person or opinion to further influence public opinion by deception.
It's fearsome propaganda technology when combined.
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I have both facebook and a mobile phone
I could live without a mobile though really, and don't use it except if I need to call home when I'm at uni or something
Facebook is great for me though. I have both IRL people and online peple on there, including family
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My mobile phone faked the moon landing, and I am pretty sure my Facebook shot Kennedy :laugh:
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Don't have facebook or phone either. The forced notion seems a stretch on first thought, but having lived through the evolution of plastic tender, have to say it's a very interesting perception and who knows what power virtual social networking will hold three or four decades from now.
Good for you :plus: for being :viking: and not following the pack
Opps your the one that doesn't want the :plus: will :minusevil: later to even you out but you get the idea
I got a facebook because I decided to make one , not sure how that makes me "following the pack" , unless you mean those who feel pressured into making one?
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All I know is that my ex pressured me to get one. Got rid of it as soon as we broke up as I didn't want it in the first place.
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All I know is that my ex pressured me to get one. Got rid of it as soon as we broke up as I didn't want it in the first place.
i admire your balls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzT7BqleVSc
i made an account for the same reason, but by now i have a little selection of people listed...
i DID cut down half my contacts tho, tons of old classmates etc who added me :D
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I have 61
a few online friends, some family and a load of people from school/uni/college
occasionally I delete people
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I have a few friends on FB. I'm not there a lot.
It annoys me that recently FB keeps asking for my mobile number, to enhance security. Why would I be more secure if they know my phone-number?
Don't know if FB is doing this too, but a online community like Hyves now offers the option to send postcards to someone. So, someone that has found you on Hyves, can send you real mail, without knowing your address, that information will stay at Hyves.
I don't know if I would be happy with mail like that. Think I wouldn't. Would come across as somewhat stalkerish.
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I have a few friends on FB. I'm not there a lot.
It annoys me that recently FB keeps asking for my mobile number, to enhance security. Why would I be more secure if they know my phone-number?
Don't know if FB is doing this too, but a online community like Hyves now offers the option to send postcards to someone. So, someone that has found you on Hyves, can send you real mail, without knowing your address, that information will stay at Hyves.
I don't know if I would be happy with mail like that. Think I wouldn't. Would come across as somewhat stalkerish.
I think they want your mobile number so if you try and reset your password they text a confirmation code to it that must be re-entered into FB. That way someone trying to hack your FB account would also need possession of your mobile phone to pull it off.
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I only go there to farm, and play bejeweled blitz
i rarely talk to anyone
just an ignorant so and so at times
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Yes your info is available for everyone on Facebook, but you still choose on what info they see. If you don't want people to know, then don't fucking post it you wanker!
It's the same with the internet in general, despite what a website may say about keeping info private there is ALWAYS a risk of it being accessed. Use some common sense, for fuck sake.
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I have a few friends on FB. I'm not there a lot.
It annoys me that recently FB keeps asking for my mobile number, to enhance security. Why would I be more secure if they know my phone-number?
Don't know if FB is doing this too, but a online community like Hyves now offers the option to send postcards to someone. So, someone that has found you on Hyves, can send you real mail, without knowing your address, that information will stay at Hyves.
I don't know if I would be happy with mail like that. Think I wouldn't. Would come across as somewhat stalkerish.
I think they want your mobile number so if you try and reset your password they text a confirmation code to it that must be re-entered into FB. That way someone trying to hack your FB account would also need possession of your mobile phone to pull it off.
Yeah, I figured that out. But, giving that info also opens up all kinds of other hacking.
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I haven't had a Facebook in a while. I don't like mixing my worlds. I mean, I don't want my aunt to see all the crosdressers I talk to online. And I really don't give 2 shits if someone has a dr appointment or has a mood update. My friends know how to get in touch with me.
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Only one person from school knows me on Facebook and I would like it to stay that way, school was a nightmare. I have about 20-something friends on Facebook, most of them are family.
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Now I have 50 friends on Facebook. Some are distant cousins. Some are people from here.
I don't actually post much, more I like posts or make comments.