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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Scrapheap on January 19, 2011, 02:15:06 PM

Title: How much US law is unconstitutional??
Post by: Scrapheap on January 19, 2011, 02:15:06 PM: If you look at the law making process, politicians don't give a crap if the bills they pass are contitutional or not.

When a bill is passed into law, is it assumed to be constitutional untill it is successfuly overturned in Federal Court. Obviously, it takes a ton of money to overturn a law, once it has been passed.

Therefore, there has to be a large amout of unconstitutional law in the US.

How much do you think there is??
Title: Re: How much US law is unconstitutional??
Post by: eris on January 19, 2011, 02:37:21 PM: you mean like The Patriot Act ?

I can't put an acurate estimate on it, of course, Im not a lawyer. BUt I would say over half.
Title: Re: How much US law is unconstitutional??
Post by: Scrapheap on January 19, 2011, 04:10:44 PM: Quote from: eris on January 19, 2011, 02:37:21 PM
you mean like The Patriot Act ?

Yes

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I can't put an acurate estimate on it, of course, Im not a lawyer. BUt I would say over half.

That's all I'm asking for is a guestimate.
Title: Re: How much US law is unconstitutional??
Post by: eris on January 19, 2011, 04:15:03 PM: On a side note, how do you feel about ATM fees ?

I always thought it was wrong that we have to PAY to access our own money. Seems unconstitutional to me.
Title: Re: How much US law is unconstitutional??
Post by: Scrapheap on January 19, 2011, 04:22:01 PM: Quote from: eris on January 19, 2011, 04:15:03 PM
On a side note, how do you feel about ATM fees ?

I always thought it was wrong that we have to PAY to access our own money. Seems unconstitutional to me.

I belive in some of the banking principles of Anarcho-Capitalism. I don't think they'd permit such a thing.
Title: Re: How much US law is unconstitutional??
Post by: Scrapheap on January 20, 2011, 10:06:41 PM: You should've posted this here. ;) :police:

Quote from: PPK on January 20, 2011, 08:18:45 PM
Victory for gun owners in California! Shit law over ruled prior to enactment. :viking: I'm happy to be an NRA Patron member. The dreaded gun lobby strikes again! http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=385930 (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=385930)
Title: Re: How much US law is unconstitutional??
Post by: P7PSP on January 20, 2011, 10:12:03 PM: Okay Scrap.

Victory for gun owners in California! Shit law over ruled prior to enactment. :viking: I'm happy to be an NRA Patron member. The dreaded gun lobby strikes again! http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=385930 (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=385930)
Title: Re: How much US law is unconstitutional??
Post by: Scrapheap on January 20, 2011, 10:30:05 PM: :woohoo:

:party:
Title: Re: How much US law is unconstitutional??
Post by: P7PSP on January 20, 2011, 10:33:39 PM: Quote from: Sladeheap on January 20, 2011, 10:30:05 PM
:woohoo:

:party:
:agreed: :plus: Fuck the Brady fucks.
Title: Re: How much US law is unconstitutional??
Post by: TheoK on January 22, 2011, 06:28:47 AM: You got the state laws above the federal laws in the US, which is one of the reasons that the states, counties and cities can break the Constitution. In Germany, for example, it is the other way around. The State of Hesse still has the capital punishment but is not allowed to use it, since the German federal constitution forbids it.

Though I think no constitutions or laws whatsoever are legitimate, even if the US constitution theoretically is the best there ever was. A majority of free people never ever directly gave their consent to found a state, a constitution or a law, not even in America.