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Title: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Adam on January 16, 2011, 11:11:35 AM
if someone told you they had killed someone who tortured cats

for example what if I told you IRL that I had done that (no this isn't a confession - I havan't killed anyone ever lol)

would you grass me up?
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: El on January 16, 2011, 11:18:18 AM
Frankly I'd be disinclined to believe them.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Adam on January 16, 2011, 11:19:38 AM
ok but if you were pretty sure they were telling the truth?

What about if you witnessed it?
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Squidusa on January 16, 2011, 11:36:54 AM
ok but if you were pretty sure they were telling the truth?

What about if you witnessed it?

I'd give them a pat on the back , tell them well done and never speak of it again.

Animal torturers deserve to die.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: El on January 16, 2011, 11:50:50 AM
Why are you posting a hypothetical about standing there and watching one human being kill another human being, exactly?
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Adam on January 16, 2011, 11:54:58 AM
I dunno, just came into my head. I think I've made about 50 threads today  :autism:

And I agree with you squiddy - they do deserve to die. Always makes me so angry when I hear about fuckers like that in the news. Then I end up ranting about it in facebook statuses and annoying everyone :P
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Scrapheap on January 16, 2011, 12:18:27 PM
if someone told you they had killed someone who tortured cats

for example what if I told you IRL that I had done that (no this isn't a confession - I havan't killed anyone ever lol)

would you grass me up?

Yes, killing them goes WAY over the line.

Giving them a couple of black eyes, and knocking out their teeth is fine. Killing them, no.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: 'Butterflies' on January 16, 2011, 02:46:32 PM
Animal cruelty is wrong, but it should not be a capital punishment offence. I used to have a cat when I was a kid, and I would build it a maze in my garden and put the cat in the middle and see how long it would take to escape. We had a cat box as well, and I would bring the cat a couple of streets away and see how long it would take to make its way home.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: ZEGH8578 on January 17, 2011, 05:02:43 PM
if i was president, there would be so much firing squads...

televised firing squads

holyday firing squads

firing squad pay per view special

firing squad dvd collection

viewers favorite firing squad awards
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Adam on January 17, 2011, 05:04:04 PM
Animal cruelty is wrong, but it should not be a capital punishment offence.

I don't think it should either, but I do think they deserve to die and I'd think it was great whenever anyone killed or hurt a piece of shit who tortured animals
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: DukeNukem on January 17, 2011, 05:09:22 PM
What would you do if someone told you they thought you were full of shit, Heinrich? :orly:
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Squidusa on January 17, 2011, 08:15:44 PM
What would you do if someone told you they thought you were full of shit, Heinrich? :orly:

What would YOU do if someone told you they though you were full of shit pentagram?  :orly:

Oh yeah...
Whine and bitch like a little child , talk about how hard your life is (possibly threaten to leave the site) then come online say you're sorry and never do it again.

Honestly my patience has run out with you , you pig raping redneck.  :finger:
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Adam on January 17, 2011, 10:03:57 PM
:laugh: I'd forgotten about him saying he was gonna leave the site lol
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: P7PSP on January 17, 2011, 11:15:06 PM
I would not necessarily be inclined to take the word of a known murderer regarding motivation. People who commit murder frequently don't mind telling lies either.

Honestly my patience has run out with you , you pig raping redneck.  :finger:
:lol: Sometimes simple humor is the best.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Squidusa on January 18, 2011, 05:17:18 AM
Honestly my patience has run out with you , you pig raping redneck.  :finger:
:lol: Sometimes simple humor is the best.

Honestly I wasn't trying to be funny then , he genuinely annoyed me last night  :laugh:.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: PuppetSockPenguin on January 19, 2011, 03:12:37 AM
ok but if you were pretty sure they were telling the truth?

What about if you witnessed it?

I'd give them a pat on the back , tell them well done and never speak of it again.

Animal torturers deserve to die.

^ This.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Enos on January 20, 2011, 10:21:19 AM
If I didn't know the person well that they killed, I wouldn't tell but I would asked why they killed them. If they did kill the person because of what he did to the cats, I'd be like wut. It's a horrible thing to do torturing cats, but they shouldn't be killed for it.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Osensitive1 on January 20, 2011, 08:02:02 PM
ok but if you were pretty sure they were telling the truth?

What about if you witnessed it?

I'd give them a pat on the back , tell them well done and never speak of it again.

Animal torturers deserve to die.

^ This.

Yes. Pat on the back. Good choice of action if seeing someone kill someone else, so maybe  they wouldn't kill me too.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Pyraxis on January 20, 2011, 08:14:58 PM
Yeah I'd seriously suspect their motives. Was it their cat that got tortured, did they just witness it immediately before? You know, all the questions you'd want answered about someone who just, say, discovered their spouse in bed with a lover. That would be some serious impulse control issues.

If it was premeditated, and they sought out and killed this person after having decided it was a capital offense to torture a cat, I'd want some damn good answers. Even if they gave a spiel about animal torturers growing up to be sociopaths or something, there could still be extenuating circumstances, and I'd probably end up reporting them to the cops after safely removing myself from the situation.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: 'andersom' on January 21, 2011, 04:25:23 AM
 :agreed:
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Adam on January 21, 2011, 04:58:11 AM
Wow you bastards would drop me in it. Fuckers
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: 'andersom' on January 21, 2011, 05:13:21 AM
I'm not going to rate animals over people. And I don't approve of taking justice in one's own hand after a human being has been tortured/killed either.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Squidusa on January 21, 2011, 05:26:15 AM
I'm not going to rate animals over people. And I don't approve of taking justice in one's own hand after a human being has been tortured/killed either.


Im just going to clarify now , I dont advocate it but if it happens , im not going to lose sleep over it.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Al Swearegen on January 21, 2011, 05:29:20 AM
I would probably jump in there to help out the fella being killed and tell the police about the crazy Psycho, I had to drop, screaming "He killed a cat, he fucking killed a cat, the arsehole!"
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Adam on January 21, 2011, 05:31:08 AM
People are animals though. And a person like that is easily lower than a cat
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: 'andersom' on January 21, 2011, 05:36:49 AM
People are animals though. And a person like that is easily lower than a cat

Maybe the cat just ate his pet hamster, in pure agony, he kills the cat. What then? That cat deserves to die? The revenging human deserves to die? and the dog of that human deserves to cut the throat of the human who did that human kill?
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: 'andersom' on January 21, 2011, 06:12:32 AM
Soph, what about the poor, cute and beloved Hamster.

How far does revenge go?
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Adam on January 21, 2011, 06:30:05 AM
It's not really about revenge like that though

The cat kills the hamster because of its instincts

A human who ties a cat up and cuts it or rapes it or puts it in a bag and bashes it with a baseball bat deserves to die, and I'd kill them myself if I witnessed that
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Callaway on January 21, 2011, 06:37:05 AM
It's not really about revenge like that though

The cat kills the hamster because of its instincts

A human who ties a cat up and cuts it or rapes it or puts it in a bag and bashes it with a baseball bat deserves to die, and I'd kill them myself if I witnessed that

Then what if someone who loves the cat killer witnesses you killing their beloved little son?

Should they kill you with their bare hands too?
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Adam on January 21, 2011, 06:38:49 AM
SHOULD they? Obviously I don't think they should

Would they? Maybe

I don't understand why anyone would love someone who tortured cats though

Also I'm not a danger to anyone innocent - they are
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Callaway on January 21, 2011, 06:44:02 AM
SHOULD they? Obviously I don't think they should

Would they? Maybe

I don't understand why anyone would love someone who tortured cats though

Also I'm not a danger to anyone innocent - they are

What if the cat killer was someone who didn't really understand the consequences of their actions?

The person who witnessed you murder their child might think that a vigilante like you was a danger to society.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Adam on January 21, 2011, 06:46:41 AM
Anyone who tortures cats is scum, whether they're retarded or not. I wouldn';t kill a CHILD who did it though.

What about someone who's kids were murdered and wife was raped by someone? If they killed the murderer/rapist, should the murderer/rapists's parents kill them back?
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Pyraxis on January 21, 2011, 08:08:26 AM
Wow you bastards would drop me in it. Fuckers

What, you'd be willing to kill based on your own judgment, but not willing to defend that judgment in court?
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Al Swearegen on January 21, 2011, 08:33:15 AM
I think that cats should all replace the clays that they use in clay shooting.

"Fire!!!!"

"Rawwwlll"

*Bang*

(Disclaimer: I am not much of an animal person)
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Adam on January 21, 2011, 08:40:47 AM
Wow you bastards would drop me in it. Fuckers

What, you'd be willing to kill based on your own judgment, but not willing to defend that judgment in court?

Yep. My judgment obviously would not save me in court, would it?
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: P7PSP on January 21, 2011, 09:28:22 AM
People are animals though. And a person like that is easily lower than a cat

Maybe the cat just ate his pet hamster, in pure agony, he kills the cat. What then? That cat deserves to die? The revenging human deserves to die? and the dog of that human deserves to cut the throat of the human who did that human kill?
It would start a blood feud between differing tribes of humans, dogs and cats.  :headbang2: :viking:
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: 'andersom' on January 21, 2011, 06:52:58 PM
Yeah I'd seriously suspect their motives. Was it their cat that got tortured, did they just witness it immediately before? You know, all the questions you'd want answered about someone who just, say, discovered their spouse in bed with a lover. That would be some serious impulse control issues.

If it was premeditated, and they sought out and killed this person after having decided it was a capital offense to torture a cat, I'd want some damn good answers. Even if they gave a spiel about animal torturers growing up to be sociopaths or something, there could still be extenuating circumstances, and I'd probably end up reporting them to the cops after safely removing myself from the situation.


Premeditated. When that happens, it's wrong on almost all levels. I may like to watch Dexter, doesn't mean I approve of taking rights in one's own hand. Not when it is because a pet or a loved one has been killed and tortured either.

What people do on impulse, when seeing the torture happen, that is something different. But, wouldn't it be better if they went for saving the assaulted one? If, in that action you kill the perpetrator, I still think it needs to be investigated. Leniency would be appropriate in the verdict, but still, it needs to happen.

Hypothetical, if I killed someone having a torturing go at my kids, protecting them thus, or failing in protecting them. I would want to be questioned and on trial. I would owe it to my kids. They deserve more than a Mum in prison for what has been done to them. The justice would be in making clear what the perpetrator had done.



And what if you have it wrong when you think you kill animal abuser?

Scenario;
You see someone torturing a cat, noose around it's neck, doing nasty things with it's legs. The one doing that runs away, because of you approaching. And you try to release the cat. With an intense look on your face, you try to undo the noose around it's neck. The cat resists as much as it can. It is an awful sight. Then, someone "brave" comes to the fore, with a big pole. He smacks you on the head, and, because you being unconscious isn't good enough for him, he smacks you till your skull is broken and your brain is into a pulp. Animal torturers deserve nothing better than that..... And, he did caught you in the act didn't he? Hands at a noose, and a cat in all states. He was right in killing you, wasn't he?



Side note; in a society where people want their meat as cheap as can be. There is torture and violation of animal rights happening in the meat industry.
If you seriously mean that people who torture animals deserve to die, you should track the meat you want to eat from birth to death, from the egg till the slaughterhouse. If you don't, you may very well be paying someone, who is torturing animals. The meat industry as it is nowadays needs mass culling now and then, and they are far from animal friendly. You have seen the images, some beasts just don't get killed right, and go to destruction half alive. There is transport from pigs all through Europe packed in trucks in summer, overheated standing in traffic jams, to make it possible that all Parma ham is coming from Parma indeed. That are the mild forms of animal pestering. It can be worse. Track your meat, if you are serious about this Soph. Make sure it dies at ease before getting slaughtered.

I will not turn a blind eye to someone killing someone else. I do turn a blind eye to some mishaps in animal industry, I buy my milk cheap. I buy free range eggs, but everyone knows that that is a farce. I do hate torture of animals, and I even feel kind of guilty when I hang sticky ribbons in summer, if there is an infestation of houseflies. And when I drown wasps in a lemonade trap.




And hamsters and instinct. An owner can have the instinct to try to protect loved pets. I have seen people react vehemently towards cats, because their birds were attacked. Those humans acted on instinct too. Instinct doesn't make everything right. There are plenty of people trying to get away with things, telling they can't help doing it, it is their instinct.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 22, 2011, 04:42:03 AM
People are animals though. And a person like that is easily lower than a cat

Maybe the cat just ate his pet hamster, in pure agony, he kills the cat. What then? That cat deserves to die? The revenging human deserves to die? and the dog of that human deserves to cut the throat of the human who did that human kill?
It would start a blood feud between differing tribes of humans, dogs and cats.  :headbang2: :viking:

Just don't piss off any guinea pigs in the process. They look  sweet, but they'll shriek at you till your ears bleed!  :ner:
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: TheoK on January 22, 2011, 04:55:34 AM
ok but if you were pretty sure they were telling the truth?

What about if you witnessed it?

I don't like people torturing defenseless animals so I wouldn't do a thing.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: TheoK on February 14, 2011, 09:59:45 AM
if someone told you they had killed someone who tortured cats

for example what if I told you IRL that I had done that (no this isn't a confession - I havan't killed anyone ever lol)

would you grass me up?

I'd think it was cool of them, if it was truthworthy.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Eclair on February 14, 2011, 10:01:58 AM
People are animals though. And a person like that is easily lower than a cat

Maybe the cat just ate his pet hamster, in pure agony, he kills the cat. What then? That cat deserves to die? The revenging human deserves to die? and the dog of that human deserves to cut the throat of the human who did that human kill?
It would start a blood feud between differing tribes of humans, dogs and cats.  :headbang2: :viking:

Just don't piss off any guinea pigs in the process. They look  sweet, but they'll shriek at you till your ears bleed!  :ner:

Yeah, ours used to go crazy in the morning for food. They can be incredibly demanding with that annoying shriek!
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: "couldbecousin" on February 14, 2011, 08:34:30 PM
People are animals though. And a person like that is easily lower than a cat

Maybe the cat just ate his pet hamster, in pure agony, he kills the cat. What then? That cat deserves to die? The revenging human deserves to die? and the dog of that human deserves to cut the throat of the human who did that human kill?
It would start a blood feud between differing tribes of humans, dogs and cats.  :headbang2: :viking:

Just don't piss off any guinea pigs in the process. They look  sweet, but they'll shriek at you till your ears bleed!  :ner:

Yeah, ours used to go crazy in the morning for food. They can be incredibly demanding with that annoying shriek!

I used to lie very still in bed in the morning if I was still too tired to get up,
because as soon as my two guinea pigs heard the covers rustle, they'd start shrieking!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Eclair on February 14, 2011, 08:44:17 PM
People are animals though. And a person like that is easily lower than a cat

Maybe the cat just ate his pet hamster, in pure agony, he kills the cat. What then? That cat deserves to die? The revenging human deserves to die? and the dog of that human deserves to cut the throat of the human who did that human kill?
It would start a blood feud between differing tribes of humans, dogs and cats.  :headbang2: :viking:

Just don't piss off any guinea pigs in the process. They look  sweet, but they'll shriek at you till your ears bleed!  :ner:

Yeah, ours used to go crazy in the morning for food. They can be incredibly demanding with that annoying shriek!

I used to lie very still in bed in the morning if I was still too tired to get up,
because as soon as my two guinea pigs heard the covers rustle, they'd start shrieking!  :laugh:

I know!!! We used to practice being as quiet as we could, like literally sneaking in the kitchen....even having a laundry between us and a good few metres couldn't stop their supersonic hearing. They used to amaze us...we'd be gobsmacked that they knew we were floating around.
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: "couldbecousin" on February 14, 2011, 08:51:42 PM
People are animals though. And a person like that is easily lower than a cat

Maybe the cat just ate his pet hamster, in pure agony, he kills the cat. What then? That cat deserves to die? The revenging human deserves to die? and the dog of that human deserves to cut the throat of the human who did that human kill?
It would start a blood feud between differing tribes of humans, dogs and cats.  :headbang2: :viking:

Just don't piss off any guinea pigs in the process. They look  sweet, but they'll shriek at you till your ears bleed!  :ner:

Yeah, ours used to go crazy in the morning for food. They can be incredibly demanding with that annoying shriek!

I used to lie very still in bed in the morning if I was still too tired to get up,
because as soon as my two guinea pigs heard the covers rustle, they'd start shrieking!  :laugh:

I know!!! We used to practice being as quiet as we could, like literally sneaking in the kitchen....even having a laundry between us and a good few metres couldn't stop their supersonic hearing. They used to amaze us...we'd be gobsmacked that they knew we were floating around.

For simple little animals, they are incredibly determined! My older one had surgery to remove a cyst,
and to keep his stitches covered during the healing process, I made him a little bodysuit out of an old sock.
Well, it seemed like a good idea, but that little rascal, with his tiny legs, wiggled out of it in seconds every time I put it on him!  :heart:
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Scrapheap on February 14, 2011, 08:55:25 PM
I gave beer to my pet snake, it was slithering this way and that. It was all fucked up!!
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: Semicolon on February 14, 2011, 10:31:16 PM
I gave beer to my pet snake, it was slithering this way and that. It was all fucked up!!

Interesting metaphor.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: What would you do if someone told you they
Post by: 'andersom' on February 15, 2011, 02:28:47 AM
I gave beer to my pet snake, it was slithering this way and that. It was all fucked up!!

Interesting metaphor.  :zoinks:
Especially when posted by a pink taco.