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Title: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Scrapheap on January 04, 2011, 12:30:29 PM
Did anyone else here learn to read by the I.T.A. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_Teaching_Alphabet) method??

I.T.A. stands for Inital Teaching Alphabet. They were using this in California school districts in the early 70's and I was one of their guinea pigs.

My spelling skills have been fucked up ever since.  :grrr:  :grrr:  :grrr:  :grrr:  :grrr:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Semicolon on January 04, 2011, 12:31:37 PM
Did anyone else here learn to read by the I.T.A. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_Teaching_Alphabet) method??

I.T.A. stands for Inital Teaching Alphabet. They were using this in California school districts in the early 70's and I was one of their guinea pigs.

My spelling skills have been fucked up ever since.  :grrr:  :grrr:  :grrr:  :grrr:  :grrr:

Case in point. :)
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Scrapheap on January 04, 2011, 12:38:37 PM
Did anyone else here learn to read by the I.T.A. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_Teaching_Alphabet) method??

I.T.A. stands for Inital Teaching Alphabet. They were using this in California school districts in the early 70's and I was one of their guinea pigs.

My spelling skills have been fucked up ever since.  :grrr:  :grrr:  :grrr:  :grrr:  :grrr:

Case in point. :)

Initial. :emb:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: P7PSP on January 04, 2011, 01:09:39 PM
That's fucking retarded. I learned using the phonics method, and my grandmother and two aunts were teachers. Phonics plus having young kids read cool stuff like Dr Seuss works very well. Only Suzanne Ramirez could beat me in spelling bees with any regularity.
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Adam on January 04, 2011, 01:11:57 PM
OK I didn't read through that whole thing, but it looks very confusing  :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Queen Victoria on January 04, 2011, 01:16:24 PM
 :zombiefuck:.  See Dick run.  See Jane run.  May have been boring as hell, but I think I'd  have been a basketcase after ITA.
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 04, 2011, 01:30:40 PM
That's fucking retarded. I learned using the phonics method, and my grandmother and two aunts were teachers. Phonics plus having young kids read cool stuff like Dr Seuss works very well. Only Suzanne Ramirez could beat me in spelling bees with any regularity.

I was already reading a bit when I started kindergarten. I don't really remember how I learned,
except that my father used to read to us kids a lot.   :orly:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Scrapheap on January 04, 2011, 01:41:44 PM
OK I didn't read through that whole thing, but it looks very confusing  :zombiefuck:

Yes, basicaly, you learn to read and spell the English language wrong, then you have to re-learn to do it right.

Throughout my childhood however, I was always spelling things the ITA way instead of the right way.

I STILL probably use ITA spellings without even being aware of it.
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: RageBeoulve on January 04, 2011, 01:47:26 PM
Guy must have been sky high, 24/7.
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 04, 2011, 01:49:55 PM
I just Googled I.T.A. Bloody hell! I couldn't even read the Wikipedia entry because it made my head spin.
WTF compels some people to make things so much harder than they have to be?  :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Callaway on January 04, 2011, 02:13:32 PM
I feel so sorry for you being the guinea pig for such a horrible approach to learning to read.

I learned phonics and also some sight reading words and I remember we used Dick and Jane books in first grade.

Huked on Fonix Wurkd Fur Mi.
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Icequeen on January 04, 2011, 02:25:01 PM
That's seriously fucked up.

Wonder how many other people have trouble as a result of this? I know I probably would have. :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 04, 2011, 02:29:17 PM
That's seriously fucked up.

Wonder how many other people have trouble as a result of this? I know I probably would have. :zombiefuck:

All three of us siblings in my family are naturally good spellers, but if we'd been taught the I.T.A. method, we might not have been.
I wonder if there's been any research into the long-term effects of I.T.A. upon spelling ability!   :nerd!:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: P7PSP on January 04, 2011, 02:46:06 PM
That's seriously fucked up.

Wonder how many other people have trouble as a result of this? I know I probably would have. :zombiefuck:

All three of us siblings in my family are naturally good spellers, but if we'd been taught the I.T.A. method, we might not have been.
I wonder if there's been any research into the long-term effects of I.T.A. upon spelling ability!   :nerd!:
Yeah, look how scrap turned out.  :lol:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Queen Victoria on January 04, 2011, 02:51:32 PM
I know, he cant' even spell his first name right.  It's Craps, not Scrap.  Poor fellow.   ::)
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 04, 2011, 02:51:53 PM
That's seriously fucked up.

Wonder how many other people have trouble as a result of this? I know I probably would have. :zombiefuck:

All three of us siblings in my family are naturally good spellers, but if we'd been taught the I.T.A. method, we might not have been.
I wonder if there's been any research into the long-term effects of I.T.A. upon spelling ability!   :nerd!:
Yeah, look how scrap turned out.  :lol:

Awww poor Scrap! The thing is, many people are poor spellers no matter how they learned to read; I just wonder if I.T.A. students
have more trouble than phonics-method students, or if there is a different pattern to their mistakes.   :chin:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: P7PSP on January 04, 2011, 02:56:35 PM
I wonder if Pittman was a fucking Marxist?  :scratchhead:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Parts on January 04, 2011, 02:58:00 PM
My spelling was fucked up enough already that would have really done a number on me.  
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 04, 2011, 03:09:52 PM
I wonder if Pittman was a fucking Marxist?  :scratchhead:

He was definitely a sadist.  :thumbdn:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Osensitive1 on January 04, 2011, 04:49:45 PM
Never heard of it. Not a great speller though.
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Scrapheap on January 04, 2011, 05:15:40 PM
I take it that I'm the only one here who went through this.
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: "couldbecousin" on January 04, 2011, 05:16:54 PM
I take it that I'm the only one here who went through this.

Maybe more survivors will surface later. I'd never even heard of this barbaric system!  :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: P7PSP on January 04, 2011, 05:18:59 PM
I take it that I'm the only one here who went through this.
Hopefully it got shit canned before it was used too much. It's like training to not actually hit during free style.  :thumbdn:
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: Parts on January 04, 2011, 05:44:34 PM
Your lucky you didn't move far away after learning it to finish elementary school like I did.  While i didn't learn that my elementary school was big on all the "new" methods of teaching and I was in special classes for dyslexia and fine motor skill problems  when I moved to Florida the schools were set up like the 1950's it was a big shock.  Dyslexia was looked at as being stupid
Title: Re: Were your language skills fucked up by I.T.A. ??
Post by: renaeden on January 04, 2011, 10:59:03 PM
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Any advantage of the I.T.A. in making it easier for children to learn to read English was often offset by some children not being able to effectively transfer their I.T.A.-reading skills to reading standard English orthography, and/or being generally confused by having to deal with two alphabets in their early years of reading
- from Wikipedia.

I had enough trouble with the alphabet as it was, with this method, you would have to learn it twice!

I went to school in the early 80s so we didn't use this method. We had Sam and Pam and Nat the cat and Digger the dog. :D