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Start here => Free For ALL => Topic started by: Natalia Evans on May 12, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
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If you are sick of these posts about other forums, especially about WP, don't read it. Why did you even click on it? To bitch about it?
I go to the forum just now and I see I am banned. The third time it has happened as LG and last time I was told by DW a mom was either a temp ban or a glitch. I swear I didn't do anything wrong this time but I looked at my posts and see my last post I made was "Contact Us doesn't work" so I was perhaps banned for that?
Oh well I don't really care and I thought it was funny and maybe it's a glitch again or a temp ban like it was last time. I got tired of the place anyway because it got boring so I wasn't going there much and I wasn't making much posts as I was before.
Yes I can still log in my account. If the ban stays, oh well I have another account anyway I have never posted under and I have other options.
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That doesn't sound like a reason to ban you even in screwed up WP mod logic, so maybe it could have been the duplicate account excuse again, or else it's another glitch. Maybe you should telephone Alex, if that's what you did before when Sinsboldly banned you.
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I have a feeling that capricious bannings are a deliberte part of WP's trategy to keep controll over its members. It's the same sort of psychological trick that gangs use to employ to keep local populations under controll. Random violence creates fear of the gang, random bannings create fear of the mods. This fear is then used to squelch criticism, and maintain the mods facade of legitimacy. The mods then grow arrogant and feel that they are better than the members. Quatermass is a perfect example of this.
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I miss gettig banned from wp. maybe I should go back :zoinks:
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I'm going to be a REAL badass, and NOT JOIN! :rofl:
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Well I am getting told by DW a mom it must be a glitch because she looked at the mod logs and sees no record of who banned me and why. Oh well. I can wait till Alex comes online or call him or just wait. I think I'll wait since I'm too preoccupied what is going on right now in my life and haven't been using WP that much anyway.
I miss gettig banned from wp. maybe I should go back :zoinks:
Yeah since you miss getting banned so much.
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Such drama. :zoinks:
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Looks like it O-man. :lol:
Also, oh look. THIS shit again. ::)
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I'm unbanned. :zoinks:
LMAO. DW a mom said it was an error and they don't know what happened. My guess is this is going to happen every month since it happened last month and then I saw I was unbanned when I woke up.
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WP has PMS?
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???
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WP has PMS?
:lol:
Since it seems to be happening once a month, it sure looks that way.
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WP has PMS?
:lol:
Since it seems to be happening once a month, it sure looks that way.
I have PMS right now! I got frustrated at my evening job and :bigcry: !
Yay for emotional immaturity! :asthing:
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WP has PMS?
:lol:
Since it seems to be happening once a month, it sure looks that way.
I think I get it now. So everyone gets banned for a short bit once a month eh? I bet lot of them don't even notice it because by the time they log back on, they can see the forum again. I wonder if it's happened to shadesofme because I have heard of her getting banned.
Hey it may have happened in March too and I didn't see it because I happened to not be on the forum at the time and by the time I checked it again, I was unbanned. I wouldn't have even noticed last month if I never decided to try getting on the forum one night after work.
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This thread is shit
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Unforunately, its common on WP.
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Shutup. This isn't fucking WP.
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Shutup. This isn't fucking WP.
Yes sir. :viking:
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^Tell him to fuck off instead :zoinks:
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Shutup. This isn't fucking WP.
Yes sir. :viking:
Thanks. Just sick of it, man. Sorry.
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Shutup. This isn't fucking WP.
Yes sir. :viking:
Thanks. Just sick of it, man. Sorry.
No hard feelings. ;D
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Cool. ;D
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Unforunately, its common on WP.
Has it happened to you too?
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Shutup. This isn't fucking WP.
Yes sir. :viking:
Thanks. Just sick of it, man. Sorry.
I don't understand why people click on things they are tired of and complain or act like a dick. ::)
I could go on Yahoo Answers and click on Am I Pregnant questions and give those teens or lazy adults rude answers or trollish ones because I am sick of that shit.
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Shutup. This isn't fucking WP.
Yes sir. :viking:
Thanks. Just sick of it, man. Sorry.
I don't understand why people click on things they are tired of and complain or act like a dick. ::)
I could go on Yahoo Answers and click on Am I Pregnant questions and give those teens or lazy adults rude answers or trollish ones because I am sick of that shit.
Why don't you? :orly:
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I'm not trollin. Even if I don't click these I still see the million WP related threads. FUCK that stupid site! I log in here wanting to post on intensity, NOT WP.
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On a site where probably more than half the people have been commuted from another one, You're expecting hell to freeze over for at least a few of them not to talk about it.
I'm over posting stuff about it personally, the people have little personal interest to me now days, and I'll probably post there a lot less. If you don't like it, its a waste of time even looking at these threads, you can't force people what not to post.
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Shutup. This isn't fucking WP.
Yes sir. :viking:
Thanks. Just sick of it, man. Sorry.
I don't understand why people click on things they are tired of and complain or act like a dick. ::)
I could go on Yahoo Answers and click on Am I Pregnant questions and give those teens or lazy adults rude answers or trollish ones because I am sick of that shit.
Why don't you? :orly:
I'd be contradicting myself if I did. I am always telling other people "don't read it" when they bitch about it or complain and yet they still keep on reading it. So for me to turn around and do the same thing would make me a hypocrite
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Shutup. This isn't fucking WP.
Yes sir. :viking:
Thanks. Just sick of it, man. Sorry.
I don't understand why people click on things they are tired of and complain or act like a dick. ::)
I could go on Yahoo Answers and click on Am I Pregnant questions and give those teens or lazy adults rude answers or trollish ones because I am sick of that shit.
Why don't you? :orly:
I'd be contradicting myself if I did. I am always telling other people "don't read it" when they bitch about it or complain and yet they still keep on reading it. So for me to turn around and do the same thing would make me a hypocrite
:plus:
You are one of the most consistent posters around. Not that I always agree, but I admire your integrity.
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I'm not trollin. Even if I don't click these I still see the million WP related threads. FUCK that stupid site! I log in here wanting to post on intensity, NOT WP.
Trust me, no matter what aspie related site you go to, you will always bump into a WP thread.
I just find it hilarious people are STILL reading it and replying to them when it gets on their nerves, just doesn't make any sense. :LOL:
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I'm not trollin. Even if I don't click these I still see the million WP related threads. FUCK that stupid site! I log in here wanting to post on intensity, NOT WP.
Trust me, no matter what aspie related site you go to, you will always bump into a WP thread.
I just find it hilarious people are STILL reading it and replying to them when it gets on their nerves, just doesn't make any sense. :LOL:
I think it's a form of trolling. They could be doing it for the sake of their post count. Who knows.
Hey you never answered if you get banned once a month too.
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I'm not trollin. Even if I don't click these I still see the million WP related threads. FUCK that stupid site! I log in here wanting to post on intensity, NOT WP.
Trust me, no matter what aspie related site you go to, you will always bump into a WP thread.
I just find it hilarious people are STILL reading it and replying to them when it gets on their nerves, just doesn't make any sense. :LOL:
I think it's a form of trolling. They could be doing it for the sake of their post count. Who knows.
Hey you never answered if you get banned once a month too.
Yes, but I don't know if it was one of those glitches or an IP ban? Because all what happened was I just went on to the site and it was telling me I was banned.
Oh well, I never really cared anyways. (some of the members are pretty good I must admit but there are some you just want to punch in the face).
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Ah interesting. I wonder how many other members get the same error?
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How come it's more difficult for me to ejaculate than it used to be? Jacking off isn't as much fun when you have to work yourself to death just to get off. :(
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How come it's more difficult for me to ejaculate than it used to be? Jacking off isn't as much fun when you have to work yourself to death just to get off. :(
You're :wanker: too much. Give it a few days rest. :facepalm2:
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well kit i tell you what, thats fuckin' karma for yah. you poor thing~
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Ban number 4 brewing? I never learn. :lol:
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Ban number 4 brewing? I never learn. :lol:
Wooooooo same here (well actually my 3rd). :viking:
All of my bans have been for pointless reasons.
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i lost track of how many times i been banned from there. havent posted there for ages tho
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I've been banned there only once.
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I've been banned there only once.
What did you do? :o
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I've been banned there only once.
What did you do? :o
:laugh:
Being banned only once gets questioned.
Tells a lot doesn't it?
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Ban number 4 brewing? I never learn. :lol:
What happened?
Did you get a final warning or what or a threat to be banned?
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I've been banned there only once.
Oooooh, you now got me curious? (was that why you created I2)?
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I've been banned there only once.
Oooooh, you now got me curious? (was that why you created I2)?
First of all, I didn't create I2. A fellow named McJagger did, together with Omega Female, Duncvis, and some other people. Duncvis was the original webmonkey here. I2 was one of the boards that happened partly because of the drama at WP, though.
I was banned at WP because I compared the then-WP (2006) to a bad daytime soap and wondered when the obligatory brain tumour would be introduced. That pissed off Alex sufficiently to ban me.
As I recall, it had just been revealed that Alex Plank was reading other people's PMs.
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I'm not trollin. Even if I don't click these I still see the million WP related threads. FUCK that stupid site! I log in here wanting to post on intensity, NOT WP.
Trust me, no matter what aspie related site you go to, you will always bump into a WP thread.
I just find it hilarious people are STILL reading it and replying to them when it gets on their nerves, just doesn't make any sense. :LOL:
Its impossible to avoid it when there are so many. :facepalm2:
bump into a WP thread
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Which is acceptable. But not so many, like here.
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Back when I first joined here, this place was a ranting playground about WP and Alex and other mods and gossip and even impersonations were cool then. Even members be discussed here from other forums. Now people seem to be tired of that stuff now, including impersonations and hearing about issues from other forums and WP.
This place has sure changed. My stuff would have fit in here in 2007 and 2008.
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Sounds like it's grown up then. Can't see wanting to hang out here much if all everyone did was complain about another site.
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I think most of those people left.
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That would do it.
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Back when I first joined here, this place was a ranting playground about WP and Alex and other mods and gossip and even impersonations were cool then. Even members be discussed here from other forums. Now people seem to be tired of that stuff now, including impersonations and hearing about issues from other forums and WP.
This place has sure changed. My stuff would have fit in here in 2007 and 2008.
Nope, this place was never a ranting ground about WP.
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Sounds like it's grown up then. Can't see wanting to hang out here much if all everyone did was complain about another site.
Some people do it everywhere.
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I thinks there's always gonna be talk about wp on a site where practically all the members are from there. but that doesn't mean it's what the site is predominantly about. I remember whe I used to moa about wp all the time a couple years ago. It wasn't that this site was just an anti-wp site then; it was the same as it is ow, only with different people moaning.
There will probably always be people complaining about wp here, but at the same time I don't think it has ever been simply a place to moan about wp
This time next year there will probably still be a few people constantly going on about wp and a few people constantly complaining about those people. best thig is tojust accept that wp is always gonna be an issue on AS sites and ignore it if youdon't like it. sure it is annoyig sometimes but practically all of us have been through a stage where we moaned about wp a lot at some point
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Back when I first joined here, this place was a ranting playground about WP and Alex and other mods and gossip and even impersonations were cool then. Even members be discussed here from other forums. Now people seem to be tired of that stuff now, including impersonations and hearing about issues from other forums and WP.
This place has sure changed. My stuff would have fit in here in 2007 and 2008.
Nope, this place was never a ranting ground about WP.
Dude, there was lot of threads on WP all over the place back then and hate posts about alex. One of my aspie friends left this forum because he didn't like the drama and I can remember him telling me "They sure hate wrongplanet."
I can remember scapeheap bumping them all again just to drive Rage crazy because he was trolling the threads on WP about being so sick of it when he had the option to not click on the threads.
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I thinks there's always gonna be talk about wp on a site where practically all the members are from there. but that doesn't mean it's what the site is predominantly about. I remember whe I used to moa about wp all the time a couple years ago. It wasn't that this site was just an anti-wp site then; it was the same as it is ow, only with different people moaning.
There will probably always be people complaining about wp here, but at the same time I don't think it has ever been simply a place to moan about wp
This time next year there will probably still be a few people constantly going on about wp and a few people constantly complaining about those people. best thig is tojust accept that wp is always gonna be an issue on AS sites and ignore it if youdon't like it. sure it is annoyig sometimes but practically all of us have been through a stage where we moaned about wp a lot at some point
QFT
About every aspie forum you will go to, there will always be a thread about WP and on the Psych Forums, Chucky always locks them because he doesn't want any WP discussions on his forum. He says he doesn't want the drama and stuff and have anything to do with them. Some mods or admins don't want forums bashing on their forum because it can create a mess.
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Back when I first joined here, this place was a ranting playground about WP and Alex and other mods and gossip and even impersonations were cool then. Even members be discussed here from other forums. Now people seem to be tired of that stuff now, including impersonations and hearing about issues from other forums and WP.
This place has sure changed. My stuff would have fit in here in 2007 and 2008.
Nope, this place was never a ranting ground about WP.
Dude, there was lot of threads on WP all over the place back then and hate posts about alex. One of my aspie friends left this forum because he didn't like the drama and I can remember him telling me "They sure hate wrongplanet."
I can remember sacpeheap bumping them all again just to drive Rage crazy because he was trolling the threads on WP about being so sick of it when he had the option to not click on the threads.
Dude, there were lots of threads about it, but they were started by very few people. Don't believe me? They are all there. go have a look.
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So we are on the same page but you didn't see it as a ranting playground on WP and I did. I think that be the first impression any newbie would have gotten if they checked this place out in summer of 2007.
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Thing is, you still see it as a ranting ground on WP and there's little I can do to change that. See how that works? A lot of us joined here to get away from WP, not to bring the bitching here. It's kind of sad if you've still not understood that it was never about WP rants.
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Taking aim:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/nuttytentacle/Graphics/ExplodingPlanet.jpg)
OOPS! Wrongplanet
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Thing is, you still see it as a ranting ground on WP and there's little I can do to change that. See how that works? A lot of us joined here to get away from WP, not to bring the bitching here. It's kind of sad if you've still not understood that it was never about WP rants.
(http://www.thecountrygourmet.com/IMAGES/cookware/emeril/Emeril_Bam.jpg)
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Banned for dare suggesting that women and relationships aren't like you see in the Disney movies. Feminazi's and blissfully ignorant guys on the site were all over the moderator's case about me. Well let them live in their world of buying girls flowers and chocolate.
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Banned for dare suggesting that women and relationships aren't like you see in the Disney movies. Feminazi's and blissfully ignorant guys on the site were all over the moderator's case about me. Well let them live in their world of buying girls flowers and chocolate.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf136785-0-60.html
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Quaterfag is an idiot, and hasn't one working braincell in the billions in his gormless head.
Don't sweat it, westernskyline.
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Banned for dare suggesting that women and relationships aren't like you see in the Disney movies. Feminazi's and blissfully ignorant guys on the site were all over the moderator's case about me. Well let them live in their world of buying girls flowers and chocolate.
Way to go. There's hope for you yet. :P
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The problem with those anally retentive fuckwits in that brigade westernskyline was talking about is that they have all these bullshit ideas and perceptions on what people should or shouldn't do blah de blah. What they don't get is that people don't HAVE to subscribe to their ideas to be happy, and there ARE no hard and fast rules on dating, nighclubs etc. This twerp that made the complaint to Quaterfag is typical of the whole nursery over there, and while they coddle to that particular whining attitude, those asshats will never see any true reality. That's why the comment about a truss being needed if they want support was made, but they were so butthurt in having to face that reality that they all ran around like Chicken Little thinking their world had come to an end. Wrong planet, fucking wrong universe, more like it.
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Surprisingly, my account remains unbanned to this day. But I suppose I left willingly and don't plan to ever return actively. Some battles cannot be won, could be winnable if I gave enough shit to be really malicious about it. But that's all the past, screw them.
Anyway, I still get satisfaction flagging any WP news e-mails as spam though when they come. :zoinks:
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I've reported Alex to his ISP because of those news emails. :zoinks:
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Ahhh, so YOUR foreveryoung westernskyline? Quatermass was the same guy who banned my best friend on there because he just didn't like her.
Sorry to hear that you got banned from the forums. You'd be happier here tbh.
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Ahhh, so YOUR foreveryoung westernskyline? Quatermass was the same guy who banned my best friend on there because he just didn't like her.
Sorry to hear that you got banned from the forums. You'd be happier here tbh.
Is Quartermass still on there? I'm sure that dude tells lies.
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Ahhh, so YOUR foreveryoung westernskyline? Quatermass was the same guy who banned my best friend on there because he just didn't like her.
Sorry to hear that you got banned from the forums. You'd be happier here tbh.
Is Quartermass still on there? I'm sure that dude tells lies.
Yea, he still is and still a mod... He's practically the longest mod that has been around on there.
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Ahhh, so YOUR foreveryoung westernskyline? Quatermass was the same guy who banned my best friend on there because he just didn't like her.
Sorry to hear that you got banned from the forums. You'd be happier here tbh.
No he said he banned her for personal attacks.
But she only did them only because members were picking on her and singling her out and calling her a troll. Why? Because she is different, her poor spelling and grammar and her special interests in child abuse and crime.
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Maybe someone should start up a poll on Facefuck titeled 'Is Quatermass Gay?'
We know he is, but everyone else should be the judge.
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Banned for dare suggesting that women and relationships aren't like you see in the Disney movies. Feminazi's and blissfully ignorant guys on the site were all over the moderator's case about me. Well let them live in their world of buying girls flowers and chocolate.
Bugger WP anyway.
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Banned for dare suggesting that women and relationships aren't like you see in the Disney movies. Feminazi's and blissfully ignorant guys on the site were all over the moderator's case about me. Well let them live in their world of buying girls flowers and chocolate.
Bugger WP anyway.
It already has been..... Several times.
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Banned for dare suggesting that women and relationships aren't like you see in the Disney movies. Feminazi's and blissfully ignorant guys on the site were all over the moderator's case about me. Well let them live in their world of buying girls flowers and chocolate.
Bugger WP anyway.
It already has been..... Several times.
I am a master of the obvious at times. :lol:
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Ahhh, so YOUR foreveryoung westernskyline? Quatermass was the same guy who banned my best friend on there because he just didn't like her.
Sorry to hear that you got banned from the forums. You'd be happier here tbh.
No he said he banned her for personal attacks.
But she only did them only because members were picking on her and singling her out and calling her a troll. Why? Because she is different, her poor spelling and grammar and her special interests in child abuse and crime.
Oh, that's strange, I remember Monique saying that she got a PM or an email from him saying that about her.
That's what I said to a member too about that particular member picking on her, but then we both ended up disagreeing with each other and getting into an argument about it.
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What I don't get is, I know it's a support forum and all, but coddling the people isn't going to help. If they're THAT depressed, then seek professional help. Otherwise, I just assumed it was fair game. They can't be coddled and expect to improve.
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See, the weird thing is when I got banned originally, all I did was call Ragtime a pervert as in 'and we all know what a pervert Raggy is'. Quatermass threw a shit-fit along with MrMark and I got the heave ho. If they had bothered to look in the adult forum, they would have found out I was right.
Ancient history, now.
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What I don't get is, I know it's a support forum and all, but coddling the people isn't going to help. If they're THAT depressed, then seek professional help. Otherwise, I just assumed it was fair game. They can't be coddled and expect to improve.
Correct, they need to realize that the world can be tough and learn to act accordingly.
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What I don't get is, I know it's a support forum and all, but coddling the people isn't going to help. If they're THAT depressed, then seek professional help. Otherwise, I just assumed it was fair game. They can't be coddled and expect to improve.
Correct, they need to realize that the world can be tough and learn to act accordingly.
I tried telling them that. I would have greater success with a brick wall though. Asspie stubbornness makes a mule blush.
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What I don't get is, I know it's a support forum and all, but coddling the people isn't going to help. If they're THAT depressed, then seek professional help. Otherwise, I just assumed it was fair game. They can't be coddled and expect to improve.
Correct, they need to realize that the world can be tough and learn to act accordingly.
I tried telling them that. I would have greater success with a brick wall though. Asspie stubbornness makes a mule blush.
:agreed: I was there when you left.
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Yeah I remember. :)
Though I feel it was a waste of time anyway. If they want to be suckers for punishment and fraud sense of security, let them.
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This really is terribly exciting. :P
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I think I need a list of who everyone is/was on WP ???.
Of course I know Kit and Superboyian, and others like GA and Renaeden from the old days there, but not many others.
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Count me out. Oh, and CBC too. We never made it to WP.
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Count me out. Oh, and CBC too. We never made it to WP.
:indeed: Never even gave it much thought, it seemed intimidatingly overpopulated, and then there are all the bannings... :laugh:
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I was Sopho on there in 07
I've been numerous other trolls and "flammers" as well :zoinks:
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I was Sopho on there in 07
I've been numerous other trolls and "flammers" as well :zoinks:
Oh yes, I know you're Sopho :)
PPK = Velodog?
Gluey = BeatlesGirl?
Bint = Postures and Snazzlestick?
Fatty McBlob = Hale Bopp, I know that one.
Maybe most of you would rather stay incognito so I'll stop there.
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I was Sopho on there in 07
I've been numerous other trolls and "flammers" as well :zoinks:
Oh yes, I know you're Sopho :)
PPK = Velodog?
Gluey = BeatlesGirl?
Bint = Postures and Snazzlestick?
Fatty McBlob = Hale Bopp, I know that one.
Maybe most of you would rather stay incognito so I'll stop there.
I was The_Chosen_One (or TCO), googa01, Voltaire, Ogouferay, Rasputin and probably one other. The TCO one was my only fair dinkum one, all the others were troll accounts (although I didn't really admit to that at the time).
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I think I need a list of who everyone is/was on WP ???.
Of course I know Kit and Superboyian, and others like GA and Renaeden from the old days there, but not many others.
Meadow is there now. SBI and her got into an arguement again there. Richard also goes there occasionally but he said he got a new computer so he be there everyday now.
Eclair used to be there and Calandale, scrapheap, parts, sir les, steve O, professor, odeon, mcjagger, dirtdawg, anyone else I am forgetting?
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I think I need a list of who everyone is/was on WP ???.
Of course I know Kit and Superboyian, and others like GA and Renaeden from the old days there, but not many others.
Meadow is there now. SBI and her got into an arguement again there. Richard also goes there occasionally but he said he got a new computer so he be there everyday now.
Eclair used to be there and Calandale, scrapheap, parts, sir les, steve O, professor, odeon, mcjagger, dirtdawg, anyone else I am forgetting?
I think the Shleedster used to troll there.
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Am Sophist on there since April '05. Still post once in a blue moon.
Was also Pi for a short time while I was banned due to Alex's happy trigger finger. Didn't use the account too much.
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Trigger finger? What is that supposed to mean?
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I was Sopho on there in 07
I've been numerous other trolls and "flammers" as well :zoinks:
Oh yes, I know you're Sopho :)
PPK = Velodog?
Gluey = BeatlesGirl?
Bint = Postures and Snazzlestick?
Fatty McBlob = Hale Bopp, I know that one.
Maybe most of you would rather stay incognito so I'll stop there.
I still have the velodog account.
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Trigger finger? What is that supposed to mean?
He basically banned anyone in sight without regard for who it was and/or whatever trivial reason. I don't see why he'd ban you though Sophist, did you hurt his precious ego? :zoinks:
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I was Sopho on there in 07
I've been numerous other trolls and "flammers" as well :zoinks:
Oh yes, I know you're Sopho :)
PPK = Velodog?
Gluey = BeatlesGirl?
Bint = Postures and Snazzlestick?
Fatty McBlob = Hale Bopp, I know that one.
Maybe most of you would rather stay incognito so I'll stop there.
I still have the velodog account.
Oh I didn't know you were him. I haven't seen you around there? What happened?
I didn't know postures and snazzlesticks was Bint. Why two accounts?
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I was Sopho on there in 07
I've been numerous other trolls and "flammers" as well :zoinks:
Oh yes, I know you're Sopho :)
PPK = Velodog?
Gluey = BeatlesGirl?
Bint = Postures and Snazzlestick?
Fatty McBlob = Hale Bopp, I know that one.
Maybe most of you would rather stay incognito so I'll stop there.
I still have the velodog account.
Oh I didn't know you were him. I haven't seen you around there? What happened?
I didn't know postures and snazzlesticks was Bint. Why two accounts?
I got bored with the place.
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I should also say Peeguy has returned to the forum. I didn't know it was him until I clicked his profile and recognized his email.
Old members have been returning to the forum since lau and Maku had been demodded and since then there has been more drama and things have been more laid back. Maybe he finally got that memo and rejoined. But unfortunately sometimes trolls come back as if they think it be acceptable now to troll.
According to Pikajedi, lot of people were able to get back on after they were banned unfairly by sins. I don't know how he knew that. I noticed the others couldn't get back in like Emor, benjiminbreeg, ana54, Praeter and whoever else was involved in that rally when all the mods were demodded for the weekend.
But Praeter came back under different accounts.
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Excuse me folks. I was just loling at the name of this thread. :green:
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Excuse me folks. I was just loling at the name of this thread. :green:
I know I occasionally mis-read it as "Band from WP" and I don't know what kind of music they'd play, but it's probably off-key.
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Excuse me folks. I was just loling at the name of this thread. :green:
I know I occasionally mis-read it as "Band from WP" and I don't know what kind of music they'd play, but it's probably off-key.
Naw i've been sticking needles in these kinds of things since I came here. I just think its dumb to whine about Alex and his personal army of fags. We all know he's a jerk. Moving on.
Right? :laugh:
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Excuse me folks. I was just loling at the name of this thread. :green:
I know I occasionally mis-read it as "Band from WP" and I don't know what kind of music they'd play, but it's probably off-key.
Sensitive emo rock. :zoinks:
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Excuse me folks. I was just loling at the name of this thread. :green:
I know I occasionally mis-read it as "Band from WP" and I don't know what kind of music they'd play, but it's probably off-key.
Sensitive emo rock. :zoinks:
HAHA YEP :plus:
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Trigger finger? What is that supposed to mean?
He basically banned anyone in sight without regard for who it was and/or whatever trivial reason. I don't see why he'd ban you though Sophist, did you hurt his precious ego? :zoinks:
Well, I left not long before the mass moderator banning, because I'd gotten sick of it. I was mod and there was a full week I was basically modding the board on my own, because a number of the admins/mods had gone on strike. Alex was of course being himself, head in sand, passive-aggressive. By that time Gestalt had just gotten up and running and I'd had enough, so I quit just before the banning. I came back awhile later, utterly displeased about what had happened and in a modest way began making my opinions known to Alex. So he banned me.
I wasn't cussing him out, I wasn't even calling him out. I was just trying to be rational and speak sense to him. Hence the ban.
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I heard about the mod strike. When did that happen and what was it about?
How did you get unbanned as Sophist?
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kit i barely figured out right now that you where spokane girl and even though im not that very fond of you i found out you are a expecting mother. i would just like to say congratulations, i think babies are cute and im shure you will be a thoural mother
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Excuse me folks. I was just loling at the name of this thread. :green:
I know I occasionally mis-read it as "Band from WP" and I don't know what kind of music they'd play, but it's probably off-key.
Sensitive emo rock. :zoinks:
HAHA YEP :plus:
Agree there, Rage. I'd just like to read a bit of the drama and stir it up a bit, out of curiosity, even tho' I can't log on, but I'm not that worried. More fun flaming them here.
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I heard about the mod strike. When did that happen and what was it about?
How did you get unbanned as Sophist?
Was that the one that Calandale was involved in? He mentioned something about a takeover once, but that was awhile ago.
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I remember the banning party and the demodding party in 2007.
WP has gone through it's moments. I never knew anything about the mod strike until Ana54 told me.
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I remember the banning party and the demodding party in 2007.
WP has gone through it's moments. I never knew anything about the mod strike until Ana54 told me.
Well, if there's scuttlebutt around, she's in the thick of it.
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I should also say Peeguy has returned to the forum. I didn't know it was him until I clicked his profile and recognized his email.
Old members have been returning to the forum since lau and Maku had been demodded and since then there has been more drama and things have been more laid back. Maybe he finally got that memo and rejoined. But unfortunately sometimes trolls come back as if they think it be acceptable now to troll.
According to Pikajedi, lot of people were able to get back on after they were banned unfairly by sins. I don't know how he knew that. I noticed the others couldn't get back in like Emor, benjiminbreeg, ana54, Praeter and whoever else was involved in that rally when all the mods were demodded for the weekend.
But Praeter came back under different accounts.
I came back, and have still been back ever since sins silently banned by Praetor account. I was going to talk to Alex, never did, and then the whole shit between me and Friskeygirl started. But thankfully that's now all over and put behind both her and me. I am back on WP under a new screen name, but haven't been active there for weeks.
What's up with Quatermass's complete power tripping. He talks down to everyone and acts like a complete asshole. What the fuck is the guys problem?
Hey westernskyline is it true what you said about Hope_Grows offering you sexual services?
Quatermass' problem is himself. No people skills, and no management ideas. Had he had that position IRL, he would have been fucked and burned long ago.
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"Hey westernskyline is it true what you said about Hope_Grows offering you sexual services?"
We were close friends for a while and what she said was that if we lived closer, she'd be tempted to take care of my virgin problem herself. I probably should have been more specific, but it's still the same thing. And I hated to play "he said, she said" but anyone on the board could see that she wanted a fight. I said flatout to her that we should just ignore each other, and she responded with that "You don't tell me what to do, got it?" talk and then decided it was her place to talk about private information I gave her about my ex and my situation.
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I remember the banning party and the demodding party in 2007.
WP has gone through it's moments. I never knew anything about the mod strike until Ana54 told me.
What on earth happened on WP in early 2006? Some big drama happened just before I joined in April that year.
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I remember the banning party and the demodding party in 2007.
WP has gone through it's moments. I never knew anything about the mod strike until Ana54 told me.
What on earth happened on WP in early 2006? Some big drama happened just before I joined in April that year.
Yes, a four + years ago drama is so intriguing.
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I don't know all the details of what was going on at WP. Some of what had gone on preceded me. Alex didn't originally own WP alone. He was one of the creators of the forum, but Dan Grover, as I understand it, was the main owner of the forum. Scuttlebutt is even one time Alex himself got banned for a brief period (though that may just be rumor). Dan eventually handed it over to Alex because he was having personal problems and couldn't handle it anymore; Alex is the one who worked to make it as large and well known as it is though.
In general Alex is a very talented businessman but also a consummate liar; he's very convincing and in person even seems extremely nice. But I know that he's been caught in blatant lie after lie and is very good at using people that it isn't wise to trust him no matter how convincing he might seem.
Anyways, Alex used to give so little power to his mods and admins that when they would try to do their jobs it was like Alex was deliberately making it more difficult. I know that Dunc and Vivi were in the thick of the whole thing and there was a lot of turmoil. It was in reaction to a handful of WP members who were trying to stir as much shit as possible (such as eamonn, ascan, etc.) I tried to deal with them but they were set on making trouble. But Alex wouldn't give mods and admins the authority to deal with them. Then suddenly most of the mods went on strike. It was a whole series of power plays. I was still modding at the time. After about a week or so the mods came back. I left. Alex tried hard to get me to return but I just didn't want to deal with the shit.
Some more stuff happened that I didn't witness, just more bickering and power plays I'm sure. Finally, Alex fired and banned the staff. Members like eamonn and ascan were banned afterwards I believe. It was ironic that the members who made our moding responsibilities a daily hell then began stirring shit because of our banning. ::) It was at that point, and for some time prior, that old members began their own forums, spinoffs from the WP fallout. This forum, in fact, is one of them. It originally was a forum that was begun, like Gestalt, from The Neurolands, a website that was a small group of forums. The Neurolands was the brainchild of Neuroman, who was tired of how WP was being run and wanted to start a community that didn't make the same mistakes Alex was making.
Eventually McJagger took Intensity off Neurolands and I got Gestalt onto another server. Btw, Intensity was originally just that, no "squared". But Squared was the rebirth of the site. But the website was in direct response to the free speech that was usually quashed on WP, although I2 used to be a lot more no-holds-barred. But then I think that was during a time when the members just wanted to blow off steam on each other and also really didn't give a crap about each other. Now you're a community. It still has its no-holds-barred approach, but you all know each other more and just don't throw as many low punches. It also probably helps that eamonn and ascan aren't still around too. Those two guys had sticks so far up their asses they were usually choking on them. :LOL:
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I should also say Peeguy has returned to the forum. I didn't know it was him until I clicked his profile and recognized his email.
Old members have been returning to the forum since lau and Maku had been demodded and since then there has been more drama and things have been more laid back. Maybe he finally got that memo and rejoined. But unfortunately sometimes trolls come back as if they think it be acceptable now to troll.
According to Pikajedi, lot of people were able to get back on after they were banned unfairly by sins. I don't know how he knew that. I noticed the others couldn't get back in like Emor, benjiminbreeg, ana54, Praeter and whoever else was involved in that rally when all the mods were demodded for the weekend.
But Praeter came back under different accounts.
I came back, and have still been back ever since sins silently banned by Praetor account. I was going to talk to Alex, never did, and then the whole shit between me and Friskeygirl started. But thankfully that's now all over and put behind both her and me. I am back on WP under a new screen name, but haven't been active there for weeks.
What's up with Quatermass's complete power tripping. He talks down to everyone and acts like a complete asshole. What the fuck is the guys problem?
Hey westernskyline is it true what you said about Hope_Grows offering you sexual services?
Quatermass? Quatermass? What is that little bitch up to now? I have had a lot of fun pulling his pigtails in the past and calling him on his bullshit. He fucking hates me.
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Well make him hate you even more. :zoinks:
But yeah, too bad there's still one twat remaining. To think he's lives on our continent. *shudders*
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Well make him hate you even more. :zoinks:
But yeah, too bad there's still one twat remaining. To think he's lives on our continent. *shudders*
I really dunno. I just might.
You are right about him living here. I think if I met him IRL life i might just bump him from behind the urinal so he falls in or something.
Then trip him as he tries to get his balance
I dunno how I would mange to insult him worse than I have in the past and get away eith it to be honest. I will go on and have a look to see what I can find. Tell me what you think
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http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp2612495.html&highlight=#2612495
Beating shit out of Quatermass. Good fun read back a few pages. Classic
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp2639813.html&highlight=#2639813
Quatermass is a cry baby
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp2614424.html&highlight=#2614424
All friends now LOL
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Ah yes, I remember the first link. Basically talking down the membership like they're worthless people. If he's bawwing about the job so much, why not quit? Oh that's right, he's got nothing else in life except that. :zoinks:
Can't bag him out too much, I once did moderator work on a forum and royally fucked that up with my own power trip. But at least I resigned when I realised how bad I was being. It cured my power trip problem though.
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http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3039810.html#3039810
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3039797.html&highlight=#3039797
OK you will like these two then. They are my latest entries. I actually asked QM to nominate me for being a fellow mod. Can't see me persuading him somehow
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Ha, I lol'd. Have fun. :laugh:
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Kiss ass, gain mod's banhammer, ban everything in sight as fast as you can.
Use reasons like-
*Nigga too gangsta!
*I did it for the lulz.
*Just trying it out lol
*WHAT IS LOVE?
Please post screenshots, and godspeed soldier!
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That my friend would be sheer class and I would do it unabashedly
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That my friend would be sheer class and I would do it unabashedly
My prayers are with you, good sir knight.
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Yes, please post screenshots. It won't let me in to view them as my account is banned.
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Me too, and i'm tired of making new accounts.
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Me too, and i'm tired of making new accounts.
Ban-evader. :P
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I remember the banning party and the demodding party in 2007.
WP has gone through it's moments. I never knew anything about the mod strike until Ana54 told me.
What on earth happened on WP in early 2006? Some big drama happened just before I joined in April that year.
I wasn't on WP in early 2006.
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I should also say Peeguy has returned to the forum. I didn't know it was him until I clicked his profile and recognized his email.
Old members have been returning to the forum since lau and Maku had been demodded and since then there has been more drama and things have been more laid back. Maybe he finally got that memo and rejoined. But unfortunately sometimes trolls come back as if they think it be acceptable now to troll.
According to Pikajedi, lot of people were able to get back on after they were banned unfairly by sins. I don't know how he knew that. I noticed the others couldn't get back in like Emor, benjiminbreeg, ana54, Praeter and whoever else was involved in that rally when all the mods were demodded for the weekend.
But Praeter came back under different accounts.
I came back, and have still been back ever since sins silently banned by Praetor account. I was going to talk to Alex, never did, and then the whole shit between me and Friskeygirl started. But thankfully that's now all over and put behind both her and me. I am back on WP under a new screen name, but haven't been active there for weeks.
What's up with Quatermass's complete power tripping. He talks down to everyone and acts like a complete asshole. What the fuck is the guys problem?
Hey westernskyline is it true what you said about Hope_Grows offering you sexual services?
Quatermass? Quatermass? What is that little bitch up to now? I have had a lot of fun pulling his pigtails in the past and calling him on his bullshit. He fucking hates me.
He sure hasn't banned you yet has he?
I am wonder if he hates me but I don't really care tbh. He hasn't been nasty to me ever.
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You two must have been IP banned. Use a proxy.
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You two must have been IP banned. Use a proxy.
:LOL:
I know how to dodge, i'm just bored with trolling there. I moved on.
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I did not realize you had multiple accounts there. I wonder what you had?
I used to think you were RageBeoulve there until I found out it was a troll who was impersonating you. Buttcoffee.
I even wonder if your mitchellhenderson account was banned?
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I did not realize you had multiple accounts there. I wonder what you had?
I used to think you were RageBeoulve there until I found out it was a troll who was impersonating you. Buttcoffee.
I even wonder if your mitchellhenderson account was banned?
Yeah that one's banned.
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Wow, I wonder how you got banned? Maybe the mods thought you were Rage so they banned your original one too?
Flake once opened the Spokane account and the mods thought it was me, even alex but I was very lucky they didn't ban my likedcalico account for it. I know it's in the global mods saying I had two other accounts which were never mine because I have been told by two mods from WP I failed to mention the other two I have had. One former and I think DW a Mom said it too.
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I remember the banning party and the demodding party in 2007.
WP has gone through it's moments. I never knew anything about the mod strike until Ana54 told me.
What on earth happened on WP in early 2006? Some big drama happened just before I joined in April that year.
Yes, a four + years ago drama is so intriguing.
Or just as exciting as the current gossip. :zoinks:
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Eventually McJagger took Intensity off Neurolands and I got Gestalt onto another server. Btw, Intensity was originally just that, no "squared". But Squared was the rebirth of the site. But the website was in direct response to the free speech that was usually quashed on WP, although I2 used to be a lot more no-holds-barred. But then I think that was during a time when the members just wanted to blow off steam on each other and also really didn't give a crap about each other. Now you're a community. It still has its no-holds-barred approach, but you all know each other more and just don't throw as many low punches. It also probably helps that eamonn and ascan aren't still around too. Those two guys had sticks so far up their asses they were usually choking on them. :LOL:
Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
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I got banned several times for spamming the report function/Mod pm mercilessly with horrible things. :LOL:
I did something else too, but I don't remember it.
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Eventually McJagger took Intensity off Neurolands and I got Gestalt onto another server. Btw, Intensity was originally just that, no "squared". But Squared was the rebirth of the site. But the website was in direct response to the free speech that was usually quashed on WP, although I2 used to be a lot more no-holds-barred. But then I think that was during a time when the members just wanted to blow off steam on each other and also really didn't give a crap about each other. Now you're a community. It still has its no-holds-barred approach, but you all know each other more and just don't throw as many low punches. It also probably helps that eamonn and ascan aren't still around too. Those two guys had sticks so far up their asses they were usually choking on them. :LOL:
Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
God, I hope not. Although strangely I found it slightly easier to get some sensical language out of him as compared to eamonn. eamonn, there was no rationalizing with; ascan would give the appearance of listening but then run you into circles nitpicking everything he could. But both of them you'd think had been born Republicans for as much as they could evade definitive answers. :LOL:
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Eventually McJagger took Intensity off Neurolands and I got Gestalt onto another server. Btw, Intensity was originally just that, no "squared". But Squared was the rebirth of the site. But the website was in direct response to the free speech that was usually quashed on WP, although I2 used to be a lot more no-holds-barred. But then I think that was during a time when the members just wanted to blow off steam on each other and also really didn't give a crap about each other. Now you're a community. It still has its no-holds-barred approach, but you all know each other more and just don't throw as many low punches. It also probably helps that eamonn and ascan aren't still around too. Those two guys had sticks so far up their asses they were usually choking on them. :LOL:
Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
God, I hope not. Although strangely I found it slightly easier to get some sensical language out of him as compared to eamonn. eamonn, there was no rationalizing with; ascan would give the appearance of listening but then run you into circles nitpicking everything he could. But both of them you'd think had been born Republicans for as much as they could evade definitive answers. :LOL:
I think Eamonn did pretty well as an admin here. Maybe the experience changed him.
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I got banned several times for spamming the report function/Mod pm mercilessly with horrible things. :LOL:
I did something else too, but I don't remember it.
:thumbup: , no fuck it :2thumbsup: for that.
Actually, if I log out I can still view pages as a guest. Also means that if there are juicy tidbits in the adult forum I still can't get to them.
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Eventually McJagger took Intensity off Neurolands and I got Gestalt onto another server. Btw, Intensity was originally just that, no "squared". But Squared was the rebirth of the site. But the website was in direct response to the free speech that was usually quashed on WP, although I2 used to be a lot more no-holds-barred. But then I think that was during a time when the members just wanted to blow off steam on each other and also really didn't give a crap about each other. Now you're a community. It still has its no-holds-barred approach, but you all know each other more and just don't throw as many low punches. It also probably helps that eamonn and ascan aren't still around too. Those two guys had sticks so far up their asses they were usually choking on them. :LOL:
Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
God, I hope not. Although strangely I found it slightly easier to get some sensical language out of him as compared to eamonn. eamonn, there was no rationalizing with; ascan would give the appearance of listening but then run you into circles nitpicking everything he could. But both of them you'd think had been born Republicans for as much as they could evade definitive answers. :LOL:
I think Eamonn did pretty well as an admin here. Maybe the experience changed him.
I hope so. He certainly made my wp modding life a living hell, him and ascan. And RobertN for that matter.
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RobertN was used by everyone in sight, though. Omega Female in particular.
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in my absence alot of fucked up shit has happend on wp. i really hate the way this site is runned now, and what was done to Lau.
go ahead you can tell me i told you so :P
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in my absence alot of fucked up shit has happend on wp. i really hate the way this site is runned now, and what was done to Lau.
go ahead you can tell me i told you so :P
Wat? What happened to Lau?
He and Sinsboldy were a snuggly couple anyway, he should have been fired as mod when she was, conflict of interest.
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in my absence alot of fucked up shit has happend on wp. i really hate the way this site is runned now, and what was done to Lau.
go ahead you can tell me i told you so :P
Wat? What happened to Lau?
He and Sinsboldy were a snuggly couple anyway, he should have been fired as mod when she was, conflict of interest.
He was probably the one her put her up, after putting it up.
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in my absence alot of fucked up shit has happend on wp. i really hate the way this site is runned now, and what was done to Lau.
go ahead you can tell me i told you so :P
Wat? What happened to Lau?
He and Sinsboldy were a snuggly couple anyway, he should have been fired as mod when she was, conflict of interest.
Alex fired him at the end of May. I dunno why. I think I forget the reason why. I didn't know he wasn't a mod anymore until SBI told me. It happened while I was away from the forum. I was getting too stressed out because of the banning that kept happening and I was told it's a glitch in the banning system. But then it ended right before I left for Montana but I still didn't come to the forum that much because of my anxiety.
Then I was told in June by SBI that alex told him lau, sins, and maku were behind the glitches and put a mod up to banning me, SBI, and MONIQUEIJ and he only banned Maku. Maybe that's why he fired Lau too?
But I stayed away from the forum still anyway because anything there can be seen as a personal attack and I was tired of walking on eggshells. I swear the mods were on a secret witch hunt about me and never kept sending me PMs if they thought I kept breaking the rules. For some reason I was targeted by them and I think it was because of my diaper fetish or they saw me as too innocent or too naive and they couldn't stand it so they targeted me secretly.
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yea, i was wondering why maku hadnt been on for so long. it was probably like that whole janica thing where she said she was gonna impode wp from the inside out :LOL:
i was fond of those moderators. i thought they did a decent job
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in my absence alot of fucked up shit has happend on wp. i really hate the way this site is runned now, and what was done to Lau.
go ahead you can tell me i told you so :P
Wat? What happened to Lau?
He and Sinsboldy were a snuggly couple anyway, he should have been fired as mod when she was, conflict of interest.
Alex fired him at the end of May. I dunno why. I think I forget the reason why. I didn't know he wasn't a mod anymore until SBI told me. It happened while I was away from the forum. I was getting too stressed out because of the banning that kept happening and I was told it's a glitch in the banning system. But then it ended right before I left for Montana but I still didn't come to the forum that much because of my anxiety.
Then I was told in June by SBI that alex told him lau, sins, and maku were behind the glitches and put a mod up to banning me, SBI, and MONIQUEIJ and he only banned Maku. Maybe that's why he fired Lau too?
But I stayed away from the forum still anyway because anything there can be seen as a personal attack and I was tired of walking on eggshells. I swear the mods were on a secret witch hunt about me and never kept sending me PMs if they thought I kept breaking the rules. For some reason I was targeted by them and I think it was because of my diaper fetish or they saw me as too innocent or too naive and they couldn't stand it so they targeted me secretly.
Personally I think they had a liking for jaggedy-arse mohair instead of calico.
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spokane i was wondering why you were league_girl and not spokane. you think lau deleted your entire profile? or did all the moderators have those kindof tools? i thought they were banned for some stupid reason butif they did do that then i can understand why they were demmoded or even banned
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spokane i was wondering why you were league_girl and not spokane. you think lau deleted your entire profile? or did all the moderators have those kindof tools? i thought they were banned for some stupid reason butif they did do that then i can understand why they were demmoded or even banned
Neah it was your dear old friend sinsboldy that did it because I pissed her off when I told her I didn't know a user was banned whomever she was talking about. Then she handed me a final warning for that.
Long story short, she changed my login information and then Alex reset my pasword when I felt ready to come back to the forum and I complained about her and the unfair warning she sent me and the next day the same glitch occured again and the next day my account was gone and my old one and my husband's.
She admitted it to alex and she told superboyian that and Maku told me she deleted it.
But she says she only did it because I had "multiple accounts" and "broke too many rules." I guess breaking a few rules was a lot and she would mind as well delete yours, punkykat's, redmage's and herself since you all have multiple accounts. So I think she targeted me because I am not the only one with multiple accounts and who has broken a few rules and they still have their accounts.
Alex was pissed about it because it messed up the database he claimed and he demodded everyone for the weekend and gave them back their tools except sins. I heard he didn't give lau back his admin tools and some other mods their tools back because "he couldn't remember who he had as mod."
I sort of suspected Lau did it and sins put him up to it because he was the admin but I guess she had that tool too because she admitted it.
But lau and Maku being fired in May had nothing to do with this issue. Maku was fired for a dumb reason and I thought it was uncalled for by alex. Then he only bans him and not lau and sins when he said they were all behind the bannings of me and SBI and MONIQUE.
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It's their bullshit policy of not discussing bannings or banned members. Shit, Stalin would've been envious of those cunts.
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Wow, this thread is relevant to guest interests. Ahem, attention guests, you need to register first before you can post. :zoinks:
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SG, i will defend your honor on wp. what was done to you was abhorrent
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I found out back in February or March why the mods acted so dumb. They take the rules so literal. That's why they acted like they want us to read their minds and be psychic such as knowing who is banned. So they hand you a warning or a rule reminder acting like you knew that user was banned when you mention their name or talk about them. Also that was why it felt like we were talking to brick walls when we tell them our side of the story.
Funny story: Justmax got banned from there in May for saying he loves to troll but he meant he trolls at other places, not on WP. So he was banned by lau and he came back registering a new account and posting in that same thread making himself more clear what he meant. But Lau bans him again and claims he broke two rules, making a new account and discussing a banned member, himself. ::)
I laughed but I thought that was so stupid. Come on, creating a new account to explain their side of the story, I would have let that one slide and it's not uncommon for people to create a multiple account to ask why they are banned or their password isn't working or making themselves more clear with their post they got banned for.
I'm surprised I never got banned from there for talking about trolling other places too. Maybe it was because I was more clear in my post.
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SG, i will defend your honor on wp. what was done to you was abhorrent
Richard, we both have a few things in common and one of them is we both like things to be fair. Rather we like someone or not.
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http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3047049.html#3047049
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It was a fluke thing and it wasn't supposed to happen. Alex knew nothing about it until I told him and I am sure the other mods didn't know either until I said something about it there and parts.
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it was a fluke thing? i dont think so. ive had my screename banned before, lets see if i get a responce, plus if autism speaks funds him i want to be deleted
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it was a fluke thing? i dont think so. ive had my screename banned before, lets see if i get a responce, plus if autism speaks funds him i want to be deleted
Oh. I meant was I wasn't supposed to be deleted but she did it anyway.
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spokane dont worry about what i say on there. alex has recived a total of more than $500 from me so i doubt he will ban me or lecture me
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Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
Yep, he's still around last I checked. He seems to have calmed down quite a bit, he only really comes out if someone is talking about civil rights in the UK or about Muslims in the UK, that sort of thing. I don't truck with his more race related stuff, but he's mostly pretty OK, I must have missed his heyday.
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According to a "confidential source", QM is only still a mod because Alex is too desperate for people to can him. I've seen QM obliquely or even directly trash Alex in threads over the last few months, I'm not sure if this is him trying to get fired or if he's just so power tripped out that he wants to see if he can get away with it. Alex is actually soliciting for mod candidates, so depending upon how that turns out his days may be numbered, or at least I hope so. I'd post my own greatest hits stomping all over him, but I'm far too lazy to dig them up.
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Tinky is still one, wardenwolf, and TOGGI3.
There are now only four mods and still waiting to see who the new ones are.
DW a Mom retired but she still has her tools.
I hope the new mods who are chosen and taken the offer to moderate will be wonderful mods. I just hope I won't be hearing bad things about them because that is what gets me paranoid and I tend to stay away from people whom I have heard bad things about.
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Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
Yep, he's still around last I checked. He seems to have calmed down quite a bit, he only really comes out if someone is talking about civil rights in the UK or about Muslims in the UK, that sort of thing. I don't truck with his more race related stuff, but he's mostly pretty OK, I must have missed his heyday.
He is a cunt and him calming down doesn't change that fact.
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Sorry Dox47 if I quote your post from WP:
That depends on who you ask.
There's the "unhinged moderator pursuing a vendetta against a member" theory, then there's the "site glitch causing deletion and ensuing witch hunt throwing said moderator under the bus" version. There are many other rumors floating about, but those are the two main ones. Personally I don't think either of the main theories adequately explain how a user account with a 5 figure post count was permanently deleted along with every one of those posts, I'd think that sort of thing would take administrator access, which I don't believe the regular mods have.
Hey, what do you reckon about the possibility of Alex accidentally deleting Spokane Girl's account and posts and being too proud to own up to it?
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Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
Yep, he's still around last I checked. He seems to have calmed down quite a bit, he only really comes out if someone is talking about civil rights in the UK or about Muslims in the UK, that sort of thing. I don't truck with his more race related stuff, but he's mostly pretty OK, I must have missed his heyday.
He is a cunt and him calming down doesn't change that fact.
Ditto. And I don't call many people that.
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Sorry Dox47 if I quote your post from WP:
That depends on who you ask.
There's the "unhinged moderator pursuing a vendetta against a member" theory, then there's the "site glitch causing deletion and ensuing witch hunt throwing said moderator under the bus" version. There are many other rumors floating about, but those are the two main ones. Personally I don't think either of the main theories adequately explain how a user account with a 5 figure post count was permanently deleted along with every one of those posts, I'd think that sort of thing would take administrator access, which I don't believe the regular mods have.
Hey, what do you reckon about the possibility of Alex accidentally deleting Spokane Girl's account and posts and being too proud to own up to it?
The possibility of that happening is very unlikely and imo, I would of thought that Lau and Sinsboldly probably planned it, after all, they were or probably still are together as couples?
They both had the ban power.
(1111th post and I head off to town).
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Sorry Dox47 if I quote your post from WP:
That depends on who you ask.
There's the "unhinged moderator pursuing a vendetta against a member" theory, then there's the "site glitch causing deletion and ensuing witch hunt throwing said moderator under the bus" version. There are many other rumors floating about, but those are the two main ones. Personally I don't think either of the main theories adequately explain how a user account with a 5 figure post count was permanently deleted along with every one of those posts, I'd think that sort of thing would take administrator access, which I don't believe the regular mods have.
Hey, what do you reckon about the possibility of Alex accidentally deleting Spokane Girl's account and posts and being too proud to own up to it?
The possibility of that happening is very unlikely and imo, I would of thought that Lau and Sinsboldly probably planned it, after all, they were or probably still are together as couples?
They both had the ban power.
(1111th post and I head off to town).
Congratulations on reaching such a lovely number of posts! Why are you always heading off to town, anyway? :toporly:
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Sorry Dox47 if I quote your post from WP:
That depends on who you ask.
There's the "unhinged moderator pursuing a vendetta against a member" theory, then there's the "site glitch causing deletion and ensuing witch hunt throwing said moderator under the bus" version. There are many other rumors floating about, but those are the two main ones. Personally I don't think either of the main theories adequately explain how a user account with a 5 figure post count was permanently deleted along with every one of those posts, I'd think that sort of thing would take administrator access, which I don't believe the regular mods have.
Hey, what do you reckon about the possibility of Alex accidentally deleting Spokane Girl's account and posts and being too proud to own up to it?
The possibility of that happening is very unlikely and imo, I would of thought that Lau and Sinsboldly probably planned it, after all, they were or probably still are together as couples?
They both had the ban power.
(1111th post and I head off to town).
Congratulations on reaching such a lovely number of posts! Why are you always heading off to town, anyway? :toporly:
Oh... the town bit is more of a personal matter and second, I'm quite outgoing when I want to be (most the times im quite lazy). :zoinks:
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Sorry Dox47 if I quote your post from WP:
That depends on who you ask.
There's the "unhinged moderator pursuing a vendetta against a member" theory, then there's the "site glitch causing deletion and ensuing witch hunt throwing said moderator under the bus" version. There are many other rumors floating about, but those are the two main ones. Personally I don't think either of the main theories adequately explain how a user account with a 5 figure post count was permanently deleted along with every one of those posts, I'd think that sort of thing would take administrator access, which I don't believe the regular mods have.
Hey, what do you reckon about the possibility of Alex accidentally deleting Spokane Girl's account and posts and being too proud to own up to it?
The possibility of that happening is very unlikely and imo, I would of thought that Lau and Sinsboldly probably planned it, after all, they were or probably still are together as couples?
They both had the ban power.
(1111th post and I head off to town).
Congratulations on reaching such a lovely number of posts! Why are you always heading off to town, anyway? :toporly:
Oh... the town bit is more of a personal matter and second, I'm quite outgoing when I want to be (most the times im quite lazy). :zoinks:
Well, have fun in town. :viking:
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Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
Yep, he's still around last I checked. He seems to have calmed down quite a bit, he only really comes out if someone is talking about civil rights in the UK or about Muslims in the UK, that sort of thing. I don't truck with his more race related stuff, but he's mostly pretty OK, I must have missed his heyday.
He is a cunt and him calming down doesn't change that fact.
Ditto. And I don't call many people that.
Not many people truly deserve the label.
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Sorry Dox47 if I quote your post from WP:
That depends on who you ask.
There's the "unhinged moderator pursuing a vendetta against a member" theory, then there's the "site glitch causing deletion and ensuing witch hunt throwing said moderator under the bus" version. There are many other rumors floating about, but those are the two main ones. Personally I don't think either of the main theories adequately explain how a user account with a 5 figure post count was permanently deleted along with every one of those posts, I'd think that sort of thing would take administrator access, which I don't believe the regular mods have.
Hey, what do you reckon about the possibility of Alex accidentally deleting Spokane Girl's account and posts and being too proud to own up to it?
It's not possible to make that same mistake three times. My likedcalico account was also deleted and my husband's because she thought that was mine too. I am surprised she didn't delete my ex's because I had posted under it about three times on accident when we were still together. Plus our IPs be the same too at one point.
Also I did a search on spokane and I notice that account was gone too because I couldn't find the profile and the posts so I assume sins must have deleted it too thinking it was mine. I didn't care because it wasn't my account. It was flake's. He said about a year later on Zomg he did spokane. I am sure that account account is gone too I never found out about because no one could remember the name of it but they remembered it had the same B&J avatar as mine.
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Sorry Dox47 if I quote your post from WP:
That depends on who you ask.
There's the "unhinged moderator pursuing a vendetta against a member" theory, then there's the "site glitch causing deletion and ensuing witch hunt throwing said moderator under the bus" version. There are many other rumors floating about, but those are the two main ones. Personally I don't think either of the main theories adequately explain how a user account with a 5 figure post count was permanently deleted along with every one of those posts, I'd think that sort of thing would take administrator access, which I don't believe the regular mods have.
Hey, what do you reckon about the possibility of Alex accidentally deleting Spokane Girl's account and posts and being too proud to own up to it?
It's not possible to make that same mistake three times. My likedcalico account was also deleted and my husband's because she thought that was mine too. I am surprised she didn't delete my ex's because I had posted under it about three times on accident when we were still together. Plus our IPs be the same too at one point.
Also I did a search on spokane and I notice that account was gone too because I couldn't find the profile and the posts so I assume sins must have deleted it too thinking it was mine. I didn't care because it wasn't my account. It was flake's. He said about a year later on Zomg he did spokane. I am sure that account account is gone too I never found out about because no one could remember the name of it but they remembered it had the same B&J avatar as mine.
Wow! They really wanted you gone, eh Kit? :zoinks:
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Sorry Dox47 if I quote your post from WP:
That depends on who you ask.
There's the "unhinged moderator pursuing a vendetta against a member" theory, then there's the "site glitch causing deletion and ensuing witch hunt throwing said moderator under the bus" version. There are many other rumors floating about, but those are the two main ones. Personally I don't think either of the main theories adequately explain how a user account with a 5 figure post count was permanently deleted along with every one of those posts, I'd think that sort of thing would take administrator access, which I don't believe the regular mods have.
Hey, what do you reckon about the possibility of Alex accidentally deleting Spokane Girl's account and posts and being too proud to own up to it?
It's not possible to make that same mistake three times. My likedcalico account was also deleted and my husband's because she thought that was mine too. I am surprised she didn't delete my ex's because I had posted under it about three times on accident when we were still together. Plus our IPs be the same too at one point.
Also I did a search on spokane and I notice that account was gone too because I couldn't find the profile and the posts so I assume sins must have deleted it too thinking it was mine. I didn't care because it wasn't my account. It was flake's. He said about a year later on Zomg he did spokane. I am sure that account account is gone too I never found out about because no one could remember the name of it but they remembered it had the same B&J avatar as mine.
Wow! They really wanted you gone, eh Kit? :zoinks:
It was only one person that did it.
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oh well, looks like its done now. ive tried giving alex more than a couple of chances as im shure hes given me
such drama :zoinks:
i wonder if 0_equals_true is banned? you only know if someones banned if it seems like they havent been around awile
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Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
Yep, he's still around last I checked. He seems to have calmed down quite a bit, he only really comes out if someone is talking about civil rights in the UK or about Muslims in the UK, that sort of thing. I don't truck with his more race related stuff, but he's mostly pretty OK, I must have missed his heyday.
He is a cunt and him calming down doesn't change that fact.
Ditto. And I don't call many people that.
Not many people truly deserve the label.
Thankfully.
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Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
Yep, he's still around last I checked. He seems to have calmed down quite a bit, he only really comes out if someone is talking about civil rights in the UK or about Muslims in the UK, that sort of thing. I don't truck with his more race related stuff, but he's mostly pretty OK, I must have missed his heyday.
He is a cunt and him calming down doesn't change that fact.
Ditto. And I don't call many people that.
Not many people truly deserve the label.
Thankfully.
I get called a cunt on here a lot! :zoinks:
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It takes more than trolling to get me to call you a cunt. Trolling's just a sad passage of wasted time, especially if it takes up more time in one's life than other passtimes like work, friends, or family time. You'd have to be some kind of evil fucking dickhead for me to call you a cunt.
Sorry.
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It takes more than trolling to get me to call you a cunt. Trolling's just a sad passage of wasted time, especially if it takes up more time in one's life than other passtimes like work, friends, or family time. You'd have to be some kind of evil fucking dickhead for me to call you a cunt.
Sorry.
So basically, nothing that I could do over the Internet could provoke you into calling me a cunt? :orly:
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How can people call you a cunt? You're not even a woman. If they call you a cunt, they're idiots or maybe they mistook you as a female.
Prick. That's the correct word.
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How can people call you a cunt? You're not even a woman. If they call you a cunt, they're idiots or maybe they mistook you as a female.
Prick. That's the correct word.
Boys :wanker: on the internet call each other cunts all of the time.
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How can people call you a cunt? You're not even a woman. If they call you a cunt, they're idiots or maybe they mistook you as a female.
Prick. That's the correct word.
I'm not sure about that. I think a man can be called a cunt, fanny, pussy or twat. Although I've never heard a woman being called a dick, prick or a cunt.
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Lot of dumb people in the world. Misusing words :wanker:
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Lot of dumb people in the world. Misusing words :wanker:
Cunt (pronounced /ˈkʌnt/) is a vulgarism, generally referring to the female genitalia,[1] specifically the vulva, and including the cleft of Venus. The earliest citation of this usage in the 1972 Oxford English Dictionary, c 1230, refers to the London street known as Gropecunt Lane. Scholar Germaine Greer has said that "it is one of the few remaining words in the English language with a genuine power to shock."[2]
"Cunt" can also be used informally as a derogatory epithet in referring to a person of either sex, but this usage is relatively recent, dating back only as far as the late nineteenth century.[3] Reflecting different national usages, the Compact Oxford English Dictionary defines "cunt" as "an unpleasant or stupid person", whereas Merriam-Webster defines the term as "a disparaging term for a woman" and "a woman regarded as a sexual object"; the Macquarie Dictionary of Australian English defines it as "a despicable man". When used as a slang term with a positive qualifier (good, funny, clever, etc.) in countries such as Great Britain, New Zealand and Australia, it conveys a positive sense of the object or person to which it refers.[4]
The word appears to have been in common usage from the Middle Ages until the eighteenth century. After a period of disuse, usage became more frequent in the twentieth century, in parallel with the rise of popular literature and pervasive media. The term also has various other derived uses and, like "fuck" and its derivatives, has been used mutatis mutandis as noun, pronoun, adjective, participle and other parts of speech.
:-* :moon:
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Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
Yep, he's still around last I checked. He seems to have calmed down quite a bit, he only really comes out if someone is talking about civil rights in the UK or about Muslims in the UK, that sort of thing. I don't truck with his more race related stuff, but he's mostly pretty OK, I must have missed his heyday.
He is a cunt and him calming down doesn't change that fact.
Ditto. And I don't call many people that.
Not many people truly deserve the label.
Thankfully.
I get called a cunt on here a lot! :zoinks:
You are basically harmless so don't flatter yourself.
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Great, that means I can be called a prick now and a bastard. :zoinks:
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Great, that means I can be called a prick now and a bastard. :zoinks:
Actually, bastard has always applied to both sexes, because the definition says "illegitimate child". :zoinks:
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Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
Yep, he's still around last I checked. He seems to have calmed down quite a bit, he only really comes out if someone is talking about civil rights in the UK or about Muslims in the UK, that sort of thing. I don't truck with his more race related stuff, but he's mostly pretty OK, I must have missed his heyday.
He is a cunt and him calming down doesn't change that fact.
Ditto. And I don't call many people that.
Not many people truly deserve the label.
Thankfully.
I get called a cunt on here a lot! :zoinks:
Surprising, considering they are useful.
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I don't get banned I'm :harp:
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I don't get banned I'm :harp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNGUtFpVycE
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:plus:
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Ah, Asscunt. Those were the days. Is he still around anywhere or did he give up the aspie elite conspiracies?
Yep, he's still around last I checked. He seems to have calmed down quite a bit, he only really comes out if someone is talking about civil rights in the UK or about Muslims in the UK, that sort of thing. I don't truck with his more race related stuff, but he's mostly pretty OK, I must have missed his heyday.
He is a cunt and him calming down doesn't change that fact.
Ditto. And I don't call many people that.
Not many people truly deserve the label.
Thankfully.
I get called a cunt on here a lot! :zoinks:
Really? Show me all the times you have? If not, I call bullshit.
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It takes more than trolling to get me to call you a cunt. Trolling's just a sad passage of wasted time, especially if it takes up more time in one's life than other passtimes like work, friends, or family time. You'd have to be some kind of evil fucking dickhead for me to call you a cunt.
Sorry.
So basically, nothing that I could do over the Internet could provoke you into calling me a cunt? :orly:
Not "nothing". But essentially with trolling you're just playing around. I haven't seen you be deliberately cruel.
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It takes more than trolling to get me to call you a cunt. Trolling's just a sad passage of wasted time, especially if it takes up more time in one's life than other passtimes like work, friends, or family time. You'd have to be some kind of evil fucking dickhead for me to call you a cunt.
Sorry.
So basically, nothing that I could do over the Internet could provoke you into calling me a cunt? :orly:
Not "nothing". But essentially with trolling you're just playing around. I haven't seen you be deliberately cruel.
Well, he has to get experience somewhere, and playing with himself would be a first step.
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Speaking of the issue, it's being a while since a new WPfag has joined up. I guess the mod issue has settled down and not many banhammers are swinging.
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Maybe the Auti$m $peaks thing will change that soon.
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Maybe the Auti$m $peaks thing will change that soon.
Providing such information is circulated far and wide enough though.
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Maybe the Auti$m $peaks thing will change that soon.
Providing such information is circulated far and wide enough though.
Yes, I know, but the attention it is getting now may lead to a small exodus on WP. Then a few lost souls may end up here.
And we'll be sweet, kind and caring. :grouphug:
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Maybe the Auti$m $peaks thing will change that soon.
Providing such information is circulated far and wide enough though.
Yes, I know, but the attention it is getting now may lead to a small exodus on WP. Then a few lost souls may end up here.
And we'll be sweet, kind and caring. :grouphug:
:lol:
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I'm outta the loop. Has Alex been making lovey eyes at Autism Speaks??
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I'm outta the loop. Has Alex been making lovey eyes at Autism Speaks??
Joint-sponsorship deal with Autism Speaks for his Autism Talk TV project. But knowing how business works, this is a 'foot-in-the-door' moment.
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I'm outta the loop. Has Alex been making lovey eyes at Autism Speaks??
Joint-sponsorship deal with Autism Speaks for his Autism Talk TV project. But knowing how business works, this is a 'foot-in-the-door' moment.
Surely you mean 'foot in the mouth' project.
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I'm outta the loop. Has Alex been making lovey eyes at Autism Speaks??
Joint-sponsorship deal with Autism Speaks for his Autism Talk TV project. But knowing how business works, this is a 'foot-in-the-door' moment.
Surely you mean 'foot in the mouth' project.
I guess that depends on perspective. :laugh:
But seriously, the fact Alex is accepting money from Autism Speaks for a single project, opens the path for a eventual buy-out of WP. Autism Speaks have probably being eyeing such an opportunity for a while. Imagine combining WP's popularity with Aspies with Autism Speaks' current popularity and ideology. Alex will sell out WP if Autism Speaks makes a good offer to further his own interests, it's inevitable.
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Oh dear someone just bumped a heap of old Autism Speaks threads on WP. Whoever this cretin is, I bet they feel really bad around about now.
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Oh dear someone just bumped a heap of old Autism Speaks threads on WP. Whoever this cretin is, I bet they feel really bad around about now.
He/she is likely doing it for the duty of lulz, but with a touch of serious business to rub in flavouring.
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Wait a minute... I recognise that user. :zoinks:
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Apparently Amy mentioned the 'sell-out' on AFF. Pandora spotted it while looking for more Duke stupidity.
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Wait a minute... I recognise that user. :zoinks:
He feels bad
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Autism Speaks is never going to let you be a mod if you keep that up.
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Apparently Amy mentioned the 'sell-out' on AFF. Pandora spotted it while looking for more Duke stupidity.
Oh you fucking faggot, mentioning my name and "stupid" in the same sentence for NO REASON. Grow the Hell up!!! :grrr:
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Apparently Amy mentioned the 'sell-out' on AFF. Pandora spotted it while looking for more Duke stupidity.
Oh you fucking faggot, mentioning my name and "stupid" in the same sentence for NO REASON. Grow the Hell up!!! :grrr:
Afraid that it's true? If i'm not mistaken, stupidity seems to follow wherever you go, Bowserchump.
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I'm outta the loop. Has Alex been making lovey eyes at Autism Speaks??
Joint-sponsorship deal with Autism Speaks for his Autism Talk TV project. But knowing how business works, this is a 'foot-in-the-door' moment.
Surely you mean 'foot in the mouth' project.
Cock in the mouth is more like it, but hey, Autism Speaks is probably buying Alex' chapstick. :thumbdn:
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I'm outta the loop. Has Alex been making lovey eyes at Autism Speaks??
Joint-sponsorship deal with Autism Speaks for his Autism Talk TV project. But knowing how business works, this is a 'foot-in-the-door' moment.
Surely you mean 'foot in the mouth' project.
Cock in the mouth is more like it, but hey, Autism Speaks is probably buying Alex' chapstick. :thumbdn:
:plus:
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Autism Speaks is never going to let you be a mod if you keep that up.
And to think, WP might in the future start restricting or out-right banning all anti-Autism Speaks talk. Alex can ill-afford soured relations if he is getting money from them. :eyelash:
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Alex looks like a homo.
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If Autism Speaks buys out wrongplanet I'm removing wp links off my site.
Would be a sad day indeed. I thought he didn't like Autism speaks?
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Why is anyone surprised? Alex is a cunt, always was.
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http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt138127.html
The thread topic : Who would you like to have on Autism Talk TV
I don't know if Alex has asked people this before, but I have thought of a couple people that I would want to see. Maybe someone like Thomas Armstrong (who recently published the book "Neurodiversity"; really good book by the way) or some leading researchers. Heck, maybe even a big name out there like Clay Marzo or Temple Grandin. Any thoughts
I would say anyone that was not indirectly funded in its production by Autism Speaks. That would be awesome.
Ooopppssss
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http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt138127.html
The thread topic : Who would you like to have on Autism Talk TV
I don't know if Alex has asked people this before, but I have thought of a couple people that I would want to see. Maybe someone like Thomas Armstrong (who recently published the book "Neurodiversity"; really good book by the way) or some leading researchers. Heck, maybe even a big name out there like Clay Marzo or Temple Grandin. Any thoughts
I would say anyone that was not indirectly funded in its production by Autism Speaks. That would be awesome.
Ooopppssss
:indeed: but, what're you gonna do?
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Autism Speaks is never going to let you be a mod if you keep that up.
And to think, WP might in the future start restricting or out-right banning all anti-Autism Speaks talk. Alex can ill-afford soured relations if he is getting money from them. :eyelash:
If Autism Speaks is smart, they will let the anti Autism Speak language be on WP. Not chasing people away, making it look that it isn't that bad. That in fact they are really nice people. And then slowly flood the place with more and more pro Autism Speaks posts.
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http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt138127.html
The thread topic : Who would you like to have on Autism Talk TV
I don't know if Alex has asked people this before, but I have thought of a couple people that I would want to see. Maybe someone like Thomas Armstrong (who recently published the book "Neurodiversity"; really good book by the way) or some leading researchers. Heck, maybe even a big name out there like Clay Marzo or Temple Grandin. Any thoughts
I would say anyone that was not indirectly funded in its production by Autism Speaks. That would be awesome.
Ooopppssss
I put in my 2 cents, for all the good it will do. Alex is an annoying attention whore.
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Autism Speaks is never going to let you be a mod if you keep that up.
And to think, WP might in the future start restricting or out-right banning all anti-Autism Speaks talk. Alex can ill-afford soured relations if he is getting money from them. :eyelash:
If Autism Speaks is smart, they will let the anti Autism Speak language be on WP. Not chasing people away, making it look that it isn't that bad. That in fact they are really nice people. And then slowly flood the place with more and more pro Autism Speaks posts.
If they silence the anti-AS stuff, they then become an oxymoron, because WP is there for autistic people to be able to speak in a community, however fucked it is, and to silence said autistics, then they are taking away their voice. They can't have it both ways, but money has done stranger things.
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Autism Speaks is never going to let you be a mod if you keep that up.
And to think, WP might in the future start restricting or out-right banning all anti-Autism Speaks talk. Alex can ill-afford soured relations if he is getting money from them. :eyelash:
If Autism Speaks is smart, they will let the anti Autism Speak language be on WP. Not chasing people away, making it look that it isn't that bad. That in fact they are really nice people. And then slowly flood the place with more and more pro Autism Speaks posts.
If they silence the anti-AS stuff, they then become an oxymoron, because WP is there for autistic people to be able to speak in a community, however fucked it is, and to silence said autistics, then they are taking away their voice. They can't have it both ways, but money has done stranger things.
Consistency and decency are not prereq's for them to be taken serious by the mainstream media.
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Autism Speaks is never going to let you be a mod if you keep that up.
And to think, WP might in the future start restricting or out-right banning all anti-Autism Speaks talk. Alex can ill-afford soured relations if he is getting money from them. :eyelash:
If Autism Speaks is smart, they will let the anti Autism Speak language be on WP. Not chasing people away, making it look that it isn't that bad. That in fact they are really nice people. And then slowly flood the place with more and more pro Autism Speaks posts.
If they silence the anti-AS stuff, they then become an oxymoron, because WP is there for autistic people to be able to speak in a community, however fucked it is, and to silence said autistics, then they are taking away their voice. They can't have it both ways, but money has done stranger things.
Silence by cuddling.
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Autism Speaks is never going to let you be a mod if you keep that up.
And to think, WP might in the future start restricting or out-right banning all anti-Autism Speaks talk. Alex can ill-afford soured relations if he is getting money from them. :eyelash:
If Autism Speaks is smart, they will let the anti Autism Speak language be on WP. Not chasing people away, making it look that it isn't that bad. That in fact they are really nice people. And then slowly flood the place with more and more pro Autism Speaks posts.
If they silence the anti-AS stuff, they then become an oxymoron, because WP is there for autistic people to be able to speak in a community, however fucked it is, and to silence said autistics, then they are taking away their voice. They can't have it both ways, but money has done stranger things.
Consistency and decency are not prereq's for them to be taken serious by the mainstream media.
Ahh... politics. Bullshit of the smelliest callibre (hey, I used it before but fuck it).
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Autism Speaks is never going to let you be a mod if you keep that up.
And to think, WP might in the future start restricting or out-right banning all anti-Autism Speaks talk. Alex can ill-afford soured relations if he is getting money from them. :eyelash:
If Autism Speaks is smart, they will let the anti Autism Speak language be on WP. Not chasing people away, making it look that it isn't that bad. That in fact they are really nice people. And then slowly flood the place with more and more pro Autism Speaks posts.
Ah yes true, but the question is, are they that patient enough? Although they could 'plant' users from their organisation into WP, and slowly social engineer (PsyOps) the entire forum. That is plausible. The benefit of course is no need for censorship. By turning the sentiment enough, the userbase itself will alienate those not towing the line into submission or fleeing. I'm surprised they haven't actually tried that yet, it's within their dirty style.
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Autism Speaks is never going to let you be a mod if you keep that up.
And to think, WP might in the future start restricting or out-right banning all anti-Autism Speaks talk. Alex can ill-afford soured relations if he is getting money from them. :eyelash:
If Autism Speaks is smart, they will let the anti Autism Speak language be on WP. Not chasing people away, making it look that it isn't that bad. That in fact they are really nice people. And then slowly flood the place with more and more pro Autism Speaks posts.
Ah yes true, but the question is, are they that patient enough? Although they could 'plant' users from their organisation into WP, and slowly social engineer (PsyOps) the entire forum. That is plausible. The benefit of course is no need for censorship. By turning the sentiment enough, the userbase itself will alienate those not towing the line into submission or fleeing. I'm surprised they haven't actually tried that yet, it's within their dirty style.
If they go too fast with bringing Autism Speaks in, they will alienate a lot of members. If they go really slow, a lot of members will stay.
Play the weak point of most posters, they don't like changes. So, they won't like leaving. Make the changes that slow, that the members stretch their boundaries of what they find acceptable time and time again. And that will change how the members view things too over time.
If they are smart at Autism Speaks, they would think troll like.
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And who knows, maybe we're inadvertently giving 'them' ideas. :zoinks:
I wonder if they do have people prowling forums for viable 'targets' for their propaganda.
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Autism Speaks is never going to let you be a mod if you keep that up.
And to think, WP might in the future start restricting or out-right banning all anti-Autism Speaks talk. Alex can ill-afford soured relations if he is getting money from them. :eyelash:
If Autism Speaks is smart, they will let the anti Autism Speak language be on WP. Not chasing people away, making it look that it isn't that bad. That in fact they are really nice people. And then slowly flood the place with more and more pro Autism Speaks posts.
But they aren't smart.
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Autism Speaks is never going to let you be a mod if you keep that up.
And to think, WP might in the future start restricting or out-right banning all anti-Autism Speaks talk. Alex can ill-afford soured relations if he is getting money from them. :eyelash:
If Autism Speaks is smart, they will let the anti Autism Speak language be on WP. Not chasing people away, making it look that it isn't that bad. That in fact they are really nice people. And then slowly flood the place with more and more pro Autism Speaks posts.
If they silence the anti-AS stuff, they then become an oxymoron, because WP is there for autistic people to be able to speak in a community, however fucked it is, and to silence said autistics, then they are taking away their voice. They can't have it both ways, but money has done stranger things.
WP hasn't been about giving the autistic people a voice in a long time. All you need to do is to mock or disagree with the glorious leader and you are history. A bonus is that you still receive their spam in your email inbox.
I2 is more about giving the spazzes a voice than WP is, although I (along with the people who founded the place) would say that we are more about enabling them.
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today alex plank is hanging out with his friend from autism speaks in a red bentely. i wonder if they are disscusing how to smoothly get the camel inside the tent without anyone knowing?
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Here comes the Godwin's Law... :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Alex Plank is NOT autistic, he is a sociopath!
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I'm pretty sure he is autistic, actually. Doesn't mean I have to like him.
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Here comes the Godwin's Law... :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Alex Plank is NOT autistic, he is a sociopath!
You mean Dunvic law.
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Thread is over, someones diagnosis has been questioned.
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Alex who?
Thread still continues.
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Thread is over, someones diagnosis has been questioned.
:LMAO: :plus:
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Thread is over, someones diagnosis has been questioned.
:LMAO: :plus:
dunc's law only applies to real aspies anyway. So Alex fails on both accounts.
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But they aren't smart.
Only proves paradoxically that, they need High-Functioning Autistics and/or Aspergers people to run their business to gain the smarts. :zoinks:
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Thread is over, someones diagnosis has been questioned.
:LMAO: :plus:
dunc's law only applies to real aspies anyway. So Alex fails on both accounts.
Are you questioning if Alex is real now?
Otherwise, Dunc's law squared I guess.
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Maybe Alex is just a character created by Autism Speaks. No wonder his actions are so hard to understand.
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Some articles are now missing from the front page. Did anyone notice when they left? And the slogan Autism=Good has disappeared from the site link in Google results in the last couple of days.
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I'm still banned there so I wouldn't know.
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Some articles are now missing from the front page. Did anyone notice when they left? And the slogan Autism=Good has disappeared from the site link in Google results in the last couple of days.
lol, covering his tracks and pandering to his new lords and masters I see?
But he fails to understand one thing... the internet never forgets. :eyelash:
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Some articles are now missing from the front page. Did anyone notice when they left? And the slogan Autism=Good has disappeared from the site link in Google results in the last couple of days.
lol, covering his tracks and pandering to his new lords and masters I see?
But he fails to understand one thing... the internet never forgets. :eyelash:
Logs, logs, and more fucking logs.....
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Someone needs to embark on a big anti-WankPlanet campaign. Discourage users from posting on there!
Of course, FriskeyGirl and TimTex wouldn't listen. ::)
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Alex definitely appears aspie in person.
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Alex definitely appears aspie in person.
That could be an act that he's putting on, you know. ::)
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Oh god, questioning people's DX's ::)
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Some articles are now missing from the front page. Did anyone notice when they left? And the slogan Autism=Good has disappeared from the site link in Google results in the last couple of days.
lol, covering his tracks and pandering to his new lords and masters I see?
But he fails to understand one thing... the internet never forgets. :eyelash:
you are forgetting one very important factor. his lip gloss! once applied it will erase any tracks hes made
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Alex definitely appears aspie in person.
That could be an act that he's putting on, you know. ::)
No, I've not met anyone who's been capable of maintaining such an affect.
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Alex definitely appears aspie in person.
That could be an act that he's putting on, you know. ::)
No, I've not met anyone who's been capable of maintaining such an affect.
Neither have I.
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frankly i dont care about his diagnosis. seeing is how the ads pay for his site and someone brought up the fact that you dont need thousands of dollars to make a video. so what did he need autism speaks for? i think if anything this partnership is more of AS trying to get a strangle hold on the word autism. those evil bastards! maybe alex cant find a real job? in any reguards i dont know how he can be this fuckiing stupid to not know what the dreaded AS is up too
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The guy's an aspie, I have no doubts.
I don't see where the whole, "omg hes not an aspie" is pulled from.
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Aspie or not, Alex Plank is still a prick and might be a sociopath. :wanker:
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The guy's an aspie, I have no doubts.
I don't see where the whole, "omg hes not an aspie" is pulled from.
Rule of thumb:
If there is anyone you don't like, they don't have AS. :2thumbsup:
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The guy's an aspie, I have no doubts.
I don't see where the whole, "omg hes not an aspie" is pulled from.
Rule of thumb:
If there is anyone you don't like, they don't have AS. :2thumbsup:
Well, if there's anyone that I do NOT like, then chances are, they do NOT have (an) AS(S).
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The guy's an aspie, I have no doubts.
I don't see where the whole, "omg hes not an aspie" is pulled from.
I don't either, because it's true that Aspies can be manipulative bastards too.
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AFF is good for something, read this. this blog reply is comentary but is pulled from this topic from john robison of autism spreaks.
i tend to agree with this blog, http://www.wellsphere.com/autism-autism-spectrum-article/autism-talk-tv-the-saga-gets-uglier/1201792
john robisons comments used in this blog can be found in the wp topic: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt134097.html
i was a donating member and i personally am very offended at how john robison says, "well if your membership donated he wouldnt ask"
thats not my problem first of all, its his. he made the website not me. second i did the best i could! as im shure most others who donated did.
alex is indeed a sell out
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It seems to me some people clump "aspies" together as sweet people who feel for other aspies and want everything to do with them. It's not the case.
Examples:
Lit: Aspies should date each other/stick together and not manipulate each other/lick my butthole
Other people:
You should feel sorry for me because I have aspergers too
You should want to be my friend because I have aspergers too
It upsets me that aspies can't have empathy for the fact aspie males like me can't get laid - they should
Aspies should stick together
You're not very nice about my posts its very un aspie like.
What the fuck is aspie like?
Jesus. If someone's a fucking twat, they're a fucking twat no matter how their brain works.
Apparently people at WP think i'm not aspergers because I critisise their posts when I don't agree with them, don't want to date other aspies (mainly ones like the ones there) and don't feel sorry for aspie males who can't get laid.
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It seems to me some people clump "aspies" together as sweet people who feel for other aspies and want everything to do with them. It's not the case.
Examples:
Lit: Aspies should date each other/stick together and not manipulate each other/lick my butthole
Other people:
You should feel sorry for me because I have aspergers too
You should want to be my friend because I have aspergers too
It upsets me that aspies can't have empathy for the fact aspie males like me can't get laid - they should
Aspies should stick together
You're not very nice about my posts its very un aspie like.
What the fuck is aspie like?
Jesus. If someone's a fucking twat, they're a fucking twat no matter how their brain works.
Apparently people at WP think i'm not aspergers because I critisise their posts when I don't agree with them, don't want to date other aspies (mainly ones like the ones there) and don't feel sorry for aspie males who can't get laid.
:plus:
Speaking of Robison and Alex. Alex prostituted himself by selling out to those assholes, and Robison was the John willing to pay for the blowjob Alex gave him. Now I ask you, isn't prostitution still illegal?
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Personally, I don't see why you still bother with WP Fiona.
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Personally, I don't see why you still bother with WP Fiona.
Its human nature.
People are drawn to what cause controversy (sp?). And tbh I would feel like I need a restraint to not critisise some of the posts there. Like one just then:
Jules22, let me ask you this: how would you feel if your boyfriend never gave you flowers, never took out out to a romantic dinner, never told you how beautiful you look, never bought you chocolates "just because", never gave you emotional support after a stressful day, never wrote you a love letter, and never agreed to help you around the house. That's right, you'd dump him faster than you can say "it's not you, it's me..
Do guys actually do that? I've never met any who do. Thats a stupid stereotype its pretty much never the case.
And saying that women expect that is even worse.
God help me if anyone like that ever registers at my forum. They haven't yet, but I won't be giving them a pity party.
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True I suppose, but I refuse to actively post there anymore. It's a lost cause.
Anyway if some fucktard comes to your forum who's like that, see it as an opportunity to be a total bitch. :zoinks:
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Ok, new word is that Superboyian has now been banned, but I'm dubious about the identity of that sockpuppet account "zhang_fei" that is claiming to be him.
I shall wait for Ian himself to see this and verify.
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Sumone's be'ina trollin'
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I like Robinson and think he's generally a good and well-meaning guy. When dealing with funding and doling out money from an organization, I just know it can be more complex than one would think. Certain funds tend to be allocated for certain categories of fund-options. So Alex receiving AS money doesn't irk me.
I do consider Alex a sell-out. But then I suppose come this May I will be selling out also and applying to Autism Speaks for a predoctoral fellowship. So I can't go pointing fingers as I will be guilty of the same.
Money is money. You wanna do what you wanna do, sometimes there are moral compromises. That's life.
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I like Robinson and think he's generally a good and well-meaning guy. When dealing with funding and doling out money from an organization, I just know it can be more complex than one would think. Certain funds tend to be allocated for certain categories of fund-options. So Alex receiving AS money doesn't irk me.
I do consider Alex a sell-out. But then I suppose come this May I will be selling out also and applying to Autism Speaks for a predoctoral fellowship. So I can't go pointing fingers as I will be guilty of the same.
Money is money. You wanna do what you wanna do, sometimes there are moral compromises. That's life.
Very disappointing.
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So I guess that's how it ends... Every influential person will eventually get bought out by them one way or another.
Excuse the melodrama I know but still, it's concerning.
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So I guess that's how it ends... Every influential person will eventually get bought out by them one way or another.
Yup. That is how I see it.
But let's face it they played a good game.
They lied to parents about the Mercury thing long enough to get the fear mongering generating a huge member support and relied on people desire, fear and want to help. They dried up fund of other organisations. They Sued anyone who stood in their way. They amalgamated any organisation with similar views. They used righteous ire to gain a foothold in Un and US goberment policy. They carefully selected big name scientists and populated their board with top names in Early Childhood and pre-natal and Birth disorder and defect Clinics. They dropped the Vaccine thing like a hot potato when that got showed to be a farce. But by that time they had big public companies and celebrities and legislators on board and were more than self sustaining. PR was in overdrive.
Then these visionaries started making their move on the Autistic communities themselves.
Once enscounced they will censor and control all Autism debate and the naysayers will look like conspiracy theorists.
As you say the smart ones will sell their souls as it will be the clever option.
I am dumb and I admit it. I won't, and that is ultimately my loss.
I will look in the mirror and not feel disgust at the worn middle-aged face looking back at me. I can live with that.
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So I guess that's how it ends... Every influential person will eventually get bought out by them one way or another.
Yup. That is how I see it.
But let's face it they played a good game.
They lied to parents about the Mercury thing long enough to get the fear mongering generating a huge member support and relied on people desire, fear and want to help. They dried up fund of other organisations. They Sued anyone who stood in their way. They amalgamated any organisation with similar views. They used righteous ire to gain a foothold in Un and US goberment policy. They carefully selected big name scientists and populated their board with top names in Early Childhood and pre-natal and Birth disorder and defect Clinics. They dropped the Vaccine thing like a hot potato when that got showed to be a farce. But by that time they had big public companies and celebrities and legislators on board and were more than self sustaining. PR was in overdrive.
Then these visionaries started making their move on the Autistic communities themselves.
Once enscounced they will censor and control all Autism debate and the naysayers will look like conspiracy theorists.
As you say the smart ones will sell their souls as it will be the clever option.
I am dumb and I admit it. I won't, and that is ultimately my loss.
I will look in the mirror and not feel disgust at the worn middle-aged face looking back at me. I can live with that.
you may be putty in the hands of the Aspie Elite, Sir Les, but as far as Autism Speaks are concerned you are the rock of Gibraltar.
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Sorry to break it to ya, folks, but that's not how grant money works. You make a proposal as to how the money will be allocated, the organization either awards you a grant or doesn't. If you get the grant, you spend it as you'd originally proposed. That's as far as the selling of souls go.
If you want to do some good in this world, generally you need money in order to do so. I can't do my research without funding, and sadly there aren't enough rich philanthropists in the world knocking at my door. You've gotta go to SOME organization to apply for money. I'll also be applying to the NIH. But since my CV is mostly made up of autism-based research, Autism Speaks is the more likely of the predoc fellowships I could attain.
I'm the one who decides what goes into my application, what my dissertation will be, etc., not Autism Speaks. They either accept it or reject it. If they accept it, I get their money to support the work.
I'm not talking about Alex here, but for myself I know that research has shown me that the philosophical debates that the autism fora are rife with are really far too black and white to be anything but a "moral highground" from which to fall off of.
Life is more real than these fora, I'm sorry. Although I'm not trying to debase the communities that have been built online and which are substantially important; they've been my bedrock through a number of hard times. But when it comes to research and business, there are a lot of compromises. I didn't make the game, but that's how it's played if you wish to achieve your goals. My goals are to come to a better understanding of what makes up autism(s) and how, genetically and environmentally, it develops. It's not to eradicate, it's to explain.
What I have a problem with is the ND and parental communities who are CONSTANTLY at war with each other and are too damned blind to see that, in essence, they're really fighting for the SAME DAMNED THING. They just don't happen to agree on how to go about achieving it. So rather than try to cooperate and listen, they're at each others' throats making worse problems than either had before.
So Alex got some money. He's got it from Autism Speaks. He's gonna make some little films about the Spectrum that I'm sure Wrongplanet will watch and probably enjoy. Autism Speaks no doubt had a certain portion of funding that was allocated to go to the community or some such. Alex and Cubby applied for money, John helped them get it. Nepotism, yeah. But that's about it.
Choose your battles. Energy is better spent doing things than bickering. Nobody will change their minds anyways.
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Sorry to break it to ya, folks, but that's not how grant money works. You make a proposal as to how the money will be allocated, the organization either awards you a grant or doesn't. If you get the grant, you spend it as you'd originally proposed. That's as far as the selling of souls go.
If you want to do some good in this world, generally you need money in order to do so. I can't do my research without funding, and sadly there aren't enough rich philanthropists in the world knocking at my door. You've gotta go to SOME organization to apply for money. I'll also be applying to the NIH. But since my CV is mostly made up of autism-based research, Autism Speaks is the more likely of the predoc fellowships I could attain.
I'm the one who decides what goes into my application, what my dissertation will be, etc., not Autism Speaks. They either accept it or reject it. If they accept it, I get their money to support the work.
I'm not talking about Alex here, but for myself I know that research has shown me that the philosophical debates that the autism fora are rife with are really far too black and white to be anything but a "moral highground" from which to fall off of.
Life is more real than these fora, I'm sorry. Although I'm not trying to debase the communities that have been built online and which are substantially important; they've been my bedrock through a number of hard times. But when it comes to research and business, there are a lot of compromises. I didn't make the game, but that's how it's played if you wish to achieve your goals. My goals are to come to a better understanding of what makes up autism(s) and how, genetically and environmentally, it develops. It's not to eradicate, it's to explain.
What I have a problem with is the ND and parental communities who are CONSTANTLY at war with each other and are too damned blind to see that, in essence, they're really fighting for the SAME DAMNED THING. They just don't happen to agree on how to go about achieving it. So rather than try to cooperate and listen, they're at each others' throats making worse problems than either had before.
So Alex got some money. He's got it from Autism Speaks. He's gonna make some little films about the Spectrum that I'm sure Wrongplanet will watch and probably enjoy. Autism Speaks no doubt had a certain portion of funding that was allocated to go to the community or some such. Alex and Cubby applied for money, John helped them get it. Nepotism, yeah. But that's about it.
Choose your battles. Energy is better spent doing things than bickering. Nobody will change their minds anyways.
Sophist: make damn sure that when you get the grant that you spend it exactly how you want it. If your application is based on what YOUR words are, then it should be up to YOU to do with the money what you see fit, even if they are the ones granting it. If they put strings on how it is meant to be spent, then they are not worth approaching. Given the moral arguments and so forth, they should not have the right to be able to tell you what to do once the grant is given. NIH would be a better alternative, but if it has to be Autism Speaks, then make sure the deal is going to benefit you much more than it will them.
Besides, Alex (as far as we know) would have gotten his announcement spread over a far wider audience had he used a good quality camera and put it on youtube. Even professionally he could have gotten it done far cheaper. But what is really funny about the whole situation is this: why didn't he hit his rich dad up for the dough? The Planks must have a fair bit behind them, why did he need to go to a third party, especially one with a reputation like Autism Speaks?
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Sure Sophist. OK mate. If that is what gets you through life. Moral ambivalence and justification.
Hell you are nice enough and smart and will no doubt do well in life. Perhaps more so without such intruding ethical or moral stumbling blocks to negotiate.
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Alex speaks to my penis. With his butt.
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Alex speaks to my penis. With his butt.
:lol:
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I'm scared now. Autism may ultimately become "exterminated" in the next century, if not before. Also, if aspies cannot stick together, then what the Hell are we going to do about our needs to be social or to have some friends?
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Autism Speaks has provided both financing for a video, and supplied high-level personel for interviews conducted by known neurodiversity supporters, how is this a bad thing? This should be seen as an olive branch (peace offering) from Autism Speaks to the neurodiversity community.
Also, let's note that Autism Speaks has far more in the way of resources than WrongPlanet, Autism Speaks has the resources to produce their own videos, and several of those videos have been discussed on this site in the past. This time, they have instead supported the Neurodiversity movement with their resources.
Agreed. I believe this shows that they are changing where their money is going. As I said before, why just sit around and complain about something when you can do something to change it for the better? Some people here seem to have an unrealistic view of how one improves society.
lau, nothing you said makes any sense to me. You seem to be getting your information from the wrong sources because most of you said is flat out wrong.
Wow it almost sounds that joining with Autism Speaks is a righteous and powerful tool and for the benefit of all Autistics.
Were this true you would be my hero Alex.
But let's scratch beneath the veneer a little and see what is exposed.
They lied to parents about the Mercury thing long enough to get the fear mongering generating a huge member support and relied on people desire, fear and want to help. They dried up funding of other organisations. They Sued anyone who stood in their way. They amalgamated any organisation with similar views. They used righteous ire to gain a foothold in Un and US government policy. They carefully selected big name scientists and populated their board with top names in Early Childhood and pre-natal and Birth disorder and defect Clinics. They dropped the Vaccine thing like a hot potato when that got showed to be a farce. But by that time they had big public companies and celebrities and legislators on board and were more than self sustaining. PR was in overdrive.
Then these visionaries started making their move on the Autistic communities themselves.
Once ensconced they will censor and control all Autism debate and the naysayers will look like conspiracy theorists.
You won't be a naysayer though Alex. I think by that time you will be that far in their pocket you will have even deserted the pretext of "not just complaining but doing something constructive for the good of Neurodiversity". You will have found a way to line your pockets and you will not be remotely concerned about what their impact is on Autistics and the stifled Autistic community. Even if you were you will not be a position to stand up and say they were no good. You would I think be smart enough to close your eyes to it and count the cash.
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Autism Speaks has provided both financing for a video, and supplied high-level personel for interviews conducted by known neurodiversity supporters, how is this a bad thing? This should be seen as an olive branch (peace offering) from Autism Speaks to the neurodiversity community.
Also, let's note that Autism Speaks has far more in the way of resources than WrongPlanet, Autism Speaks has the resources to produce their own videos, and several of those videos have been discussed on this site in the past. This time, they have instead supported the Neurodiversity movement with their resources.
Agreed. I believe this shows that they are changing where their money is going. As I said before, why just sit around and complain about something when you can do something to change it for the better? Some people here seem to have an unrealistic view of how one improves society.
lau, nothing you said makes any sense to me. You seem to be getting your information from the wrong sources because most of you said is flat out wrong.
Wow it almost sounds that joining with Autism Speaks is a righteous and powerful tool and for the benefit of all Autistics.
Were this true you would be my hero Alex.
But let's scratch beneath the veneer a little and see what is exposed.
They lied to parents about the Mercury thing long enough to get the fear mongering generating a huge member support and relied on people desire, fear and want to help. They dried up funding of other organisations. They Sued anyone who stood in their way. They amalgamated any organisation with similar views. They used righteous ire to gain a foothold in Un and US government policy. They carefully selected big name scientists and populated their board with top names in Early Childhood and pre-natal and Birth disorder and defect Clinics. They dropped the Vaccine thing like a hot potato when that got showed to be a farce. But by that time they had big public companies and celebrities and legislators on board and were more than self sustaining. PR was in overdrive.
Then these visionaries started making their move on the Autistic communities themselves.
Once ensconced they will censor and control all Autism debate and the naysayers will look like conspiracy theorists.
You won't be a naysayer though Alex. I think by that time you will be that far in their pocket you will have even deserted the pretext of "not just complaining but doing something constructive for the good of Neurodiversity". You will have found a way to line your pockets and you will not be remotely concerned about what their impact is on Autistics and the stifled Autistic community. Even if you were you will not be a position to stand up and say they were no good. You would I think be smart enough to close your eyes to it and count the cash.
Shit, did I read right? Alex even had a go at Lau. Fuck, wonder will never cease. The man still is a cunt, BTW.
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I'm scared now. Autism may ultimately become "exterminated" in the next century, if not before. Also, if aspies cannot stick together, then what the Hell are we going to do about our needs to be social or to have some friends?
What are you afraid of?
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I'm scared now. Autism may ultimately become "exterminated" in the next century, if not before. Also, if aspies cannot stick together, then what the Hell are we going to do about our needs to be social or to have some friends?
What are you afraid of?
He might be the first to go.
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I'm scared now. Autism may ultimately become "exterminated" in the next century, if not before. Also, if aspies cannot stick together, then what the Hell are we going to do about our needs to be social or to have some friends?
What are you afraid of?
He might be the first to go.
I'm afraid that I would die without finding my soulmate. Fucking BULLSHIT that would be!!! :thumbdn:
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Theres nothing to be afraid of really. In the end, the human race will be all melded together as one type of person. There will be no autistics, or blacks or whites, or anything.
This is pretty far in the future though, as for us to relax on our own differences, we will have to encounter another species, and that will require interstellar travel.
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I'm scared now. Autism may ultimately become "exterminated" in the next century, if not before. Also, if aspies cannot stick together, then what the Hell are we going to do about our needs to be social or to have some friends?
What are you afraid of?
He might be the first to go.
I'm afraid that I would die without finding my soulmate. Fucking BULLSHIT that would be!!! :thumbdn:
Here she is
(http://www.golivewire.com/forums/img.cgi?i=69481)
Not to forget your sisters:
(http://www.jewcy.com/files/imagecache/img-carousel/files/fat%20women.jpg)
And last but not least, Judy:
(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/fauxhawk444/FatWomen.png)
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Sorry to break it to ya, folks, but that's not how grant money works. You make a proposal as to how the money will be allocated, the organization either awards you a grant or doesn't. If you get the grant, you spend it as you'd originally proposed. That's as far as the selling of souls go.
If you want to do some good in this world, generally you need money in order to do so. I can't do my research without funding, and sadly there aren't enough rich philanthropists in the world knocking at my door. You've gotta go to SOME organization to apply for money. I'll also be applying to the NIH. But since my CV is mostly made up of autism-based research, Autism Speaks is the more likely of the predoc fellowships I could attain.
I'm the one who decides what goes into my application, what my dissertation will be, etc., not Autism Speaks. They either accept it or reject it. If they accept it, I get their money to support the work.
I'm not talking about Alex here, but for myself I know that research has shown me that the philosophical debates that the autism fora are rife with are really far too black and white to be anything but a "moral highground" from which to fall off of.
Life is more real than these fora, I'm sorry. Although I'm not trying to debase the communities that have been built online and which are substantially important; they've been my bedrock through a number of hard times. But when it comes to research and business, there are a lot of compromises. I didn't make the game, but that's how it's played if you wish to achieve your goals. My goals are to come to a better understanding of what makes up autism(s) and how, genetically and environmentally, it develops. It's not to eradicate, it's to explain.
What I have a problem with is the ND and parental communities who are CONSTANTLY at war with each other and are too damned blind to see that, in essence, they're really fighting for the SAME DAMNED THING. They just don't happen to agree on how to go about achieving it. So rather than try to cooperate and listen, they're at each others' throats making worse problems than either had before.
So Alex got some money. He's got it from Autism Speaks. He's gonna make some little films about the Spectrum that I'm sure Wrongplanet will watch and probably enjoy. Autism Speaks no doubt had a certain portion of funding that was allocated to go to the community or some such. Alex and Cubby applied for money, John helped them get it. Nepotism, yeah. But that's about it.
Choose your battles. Energy is better spent doing things than bickering. Nobody will change their minds anyways.
Sophist: make damn sure that when you get the grant that you spend it exactly how you want it. If your application is based on what YOUR words are, then it should be up to YOU to do with the money what you see fit, even if they are the ones granting it. If they put strings on how it is meant to be spent, then they are not worth approaching. Given the moral arguments and so forth, they should not have the right to be able to tell you what to do once the grant is given. NIH would be a better alternative, but if it has to be Autism Speaks, then make sure the deal is going to benefit you much more than it will them.
Besides, Alex (as far as we know) would have gotten his announcement spread over a far wider audience had he used a good quality camera and put it on youtube. Even professionally he could have gotten it done far cheaper. But what is really funny about the whole situation is this: why didn't he hit his rich dad up for the dough? The Planks must have a fair bit behind them, why did he need to go to a third party, especially one with a reputation like Autism Speaks?
Once they've handed over the money, it's yours. But they do ask for verification from time to time to guarantee the money is being spent as you said it would. Grants do not normally offer too much wiggle room.
Sure Sophist. OK mate. If that is what gets you through life. Moral ambivalence and justification.
Hell you are nice enough and smart and will no doubt do well in life. Perhaps more so without such intruding ethical or moral stumbling blocks to negotiate.
For the years I've been a part of the online autie community, research hasn't changed me; it hasn't made me compromise. What has changed me? Seeing my ex's 2 year-old grandson who is completely debilitated by his condition, by seizures which are part and parcel of his autism to the point he can't even crawl yet. He's a gorgeous boy, but I would do everything in my power to help him to walk and talk. Christ, to even be AWARE half the time of his environment because he's so lost in his epilepsy.
It's not about eradicating autism and, frankly, that'll never happen. Even prenatal tests would be a load of bollocks because autism is so heterogenetic and likely also involves various environmental factors that you wouldn't be able to tell an autistic from a nonautistic that I don't believe many parents would be taking that risk. And thus far, there is no definitive biomarker to test for it in utero.
I don't want to eradicate anything. I want to celebrate many of the incredible things that can come from an autistic perspective. And believe me, that is a bedrock of my outlook. But I also want to figure out what makes autism tick, and hopefully in doing so I can help people improve their lives.
For instance, let's play Devil's Advocate. It doesn't need to be true, but pretend it is. Let's say that autism is highly genetic, but in order for more severe forms of the conditions to occur, the fetus needs to be exposed to certain environmental agents. Forget the vaccines, let's just say for shits and giggles that exposure to phytoestrogens such as those which come in many canned foods are necessary to turn what would have been an odd yet functional aspie into a severely disabled autistic. The ND movement says that autism is beautiful as it is and we can't play God. But you're a scientist and you find out that if the mother is consistently exposed to these phytoestrogens through her food, that her baby has a 30 times likely chance of developing a moderate to severe form of autism. What do you do? Do you say to yourself, "Well, I shouldn't do anything because autism is beautiful and it's meant to be how it is"? My point is, so MUCH of what the ND movement bases their ideas of "beauty" on are under the misguided notion that autism is completely genetic and therefore "predestined", which any scientist in the field will tell you is fiction.
Autism is not 100% genetic. You don't "inherit" it. You inherit a tendency towards developing it. The severity varies within a given family, from eccentric Broader Phenotype to maybe even a downright severe case or two. Environment plays an important role in this.
For the same reason that Temple Grandin loves cows and works hard to design the more humane cattle shutes that lead them to their deaths, I work to understand the Spectrum. Not because I'm helping lead us to our dooms but because research is GOING to be done, and it's better that it's in the hands of people who understand and value the contributions autistic people make rather than those who just wish to see the "disorder" wiped off the face of the earth.
And if any of you take issue with that and have the misguided nerve to call me immoral and soul-less for trying to do good work, help people, and listen to all sides, then you are the embodiment of what is wrong with the ND movement in the first place.
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:2thumbsup:
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For the years I've been a part of the online autie community, research hasn't changed me; it hasn't made me compromise. What has changed me? Seeing my ex's 2 year-old grandson who is completely debilitated by his condition, by seizures which are part and parcel of his autism to the point he can't even crawl yet. He's a gorgeous boy, but I would do everything in my power to help him to walk and talk. Christ, to even be AWARE half the time of his environment because he's so lost in his epilepsy.
I can see why you'd do anything to get what you needed, then. Terrible situation, that, and I hope you can get what you need.
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Yep. I believe i've said it before, but sometimes good people have to do bad things. Don't worry Sophist. I'm pullin for ya.
Alex is still a fgt though.
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Sorry to break it to ya, folks, but that's not how grant money works. You make a proposal as to how the money will be allocated, the organization either awards you a grant or doesn't. If you get the grant, you spend it as you'd originally proposed. That's as far as the selling of souls go.
If you want to do some good in this world, generally you need money in order to do so. I can't do my research without funding, and sadly there aren't enough rich philanthropists in the world knocking at my door. You've gotta go to SOME organization to apply for money. I'll also be applying to the NIH. But since my CV is mostly made up of autism-based research, Autism Speaks is the more likely of the predoc fellowships I could attain.
I'm the one who decides what goes into my application, what my dissertation will be, etc., not Autism Speaks. They either accept it or reject it. If they accept it, I get their money to support the work.
I'm not talking about Alex here, but for myself I know that research has shown me that the philosophical debates that the autism fora are rife with are really far too black and white to be anything but a "moral highground" from which to fall off of.
Life is more real than these fora, I'm sorry. Although I'm not trying to debase the communities that have been built online and which are substantially important; they've been my bedrock through a number of hard times. But when it comes to research and business, there are a lot of compromises. I didn't make the game, but that's how it's played if you wish to achieve your goals. My goals are to come to a better understanding of what makes up autism(s) and how, genetically and environmentally, it develops. It's not to eradicate, it's to explain.
What I have a problem with is the ND and parental communities who are CONSTANTLY at war with each other and are too damned blind to see that, in essence, they're really fighting for the SAME DAMNED THING. They just don't happen to agree on how to go about achieving it. So rather than try to cooperate and listen, they're at each others' throats making worse problems than either had before.
So Alex got some money. He's got it from Autism Speaks. He's gonna make some little films about the Spectrum that I'm sure Wrongplanet will watch and probably enjoy. Autism Speaks no doubt had a certain portion of funding that was allocated to go to the community or some such. Alex and Cubby applied for money, John helped them get it. Nepotism, yeah. But that's about it.
Choose your battles. Energy is better spent doing things than bickering. Nobody will change their minds anyways.
Sophist: make damn sure that when you get the grant that you spend it exactly how you want it. If your application is based on what YOUR words are, then it should be up to YOU to do with the money what you see fit, even if they are the ones granting it. If they put strings on how it is meant to be spent, then they are not worth approaching. Given the moral arguments and so forth, they should not have the right to be able to tell you what to do once the grant is given. NIH would be a better alternative, but if it has to be Autism Speaks, then make sure the deal is going to benefit you much more than it will them.
Besides, Alex (as far as we know) would have gotten his announcement spread over a far wider audience had he used a good quality camera and put it on youtube. Even professionally he could have gotten it done far cheaper. But what is really funny about the whole situation is this: why didn't he hit his rich dad up for the dough? The Planks must have a fair bit behind them, why did he need to go to a third party, especially one with a reputation like Autism Speaks?
Once they've handed over the money, it's yours. But they do ask for verification from time to time to guarantee the money is being spent as you said it would. Grants do not normally offer too much wiggle room.
Sure Sophist. OK mate. If that is what gets you through life. Moral ambivalence and justification.
Hell you are nice enough and smart and will no doubt do well in life. Perhaps more so without such intruding ethical or moral stumbling blocks to negotiate.
For the years I've been a part of the online autie community, research hasn't changed me; it hasn't made me compromise. What has changed me? Seeing my ex's 2 year-old grandson who is completely debilitated by his condition, by seizures which are part and parcel of his autism to the point he can't even crawl yet. He's a gorgeous boy, but I would do everything in my power to help him to walk and talk. Christ, to even be AWARE half the time of his environment because he's so lost in his epilepsy.
It's not about eradicating autism and, frankly, that'll never happen. Even prenatal tests would be a load of bollocks because autism is so heterogenetic and likely also involves various environmental factors that you wouldn't be able to tell an autistic from a nonautistic that I don't believe many parents would be taking that risk. And thus far, there is no definitive biomarker to test for it in utero.
I don't want to eradicate anything. I want to celebrate many of the incredible things that can come from an autistic perspective. And believe me, that is a bedrock of my outlook. But I also want to figure out what makes autism tick, and hopefully in doing so I can help people improve their lives.
For instance, let's play Devil's Advocate. It doesn't need to be true, but pretend it is. Let's say that autism is highly genetic, but in order for more severe forms of the conditions to occur, the fetus needs to be exposed to certain environmental agents. Forget the vaccines, let's just say for shits and giggles that exposure to phytoestrogens such as those which come in many canned foods are necessary to turn what would have been an odd yet functional aspie into a severely disabled autistic. The ND movement says that autism is beautiful as it is and we can't play God. But you're a scientist and you find out that if the mother is consistently exposed to these phytoestrogens through her food, that her baby has a 30 times likely chance of developing a moderate to severe form of autism. What do you do? Do you say to yourself, "Well, I shouldn't do anything because autism is beautiful and it's meant to be how it is"? My point is, so MUCH of what the ND movement bases their ideas of "beauty" on are under the misguided notion that autism is completely genetic and therefore "predestined", which any scientist in the field will tell you is fiction.
Autism is not 100% genetic. You don't "inherit" it. You inherit a tendency towards developing it. The severity varies within a given family, from eccentric Broader Phenotype to maybe even a downright severe case or two. Environment plays an important role in this.
For the same reason that Temple Grandin loves cows and works hard to design the more humane cattle shutes that lead them to their deaths, I work to understand the Spectrum. Not because I'm helping lead us to our dooms but because research is GOING to be done, and it's better that it's in the hands of people who understand and value the contributions autistic people make rather than those who just wish to see the "disorder" wiped off the face of the earth.
And if any of you take issue with that and have the misguided nerve to call me immoral and soul-less for trying to do good work, help people, and listen to all sides, then you are the embodiment of what is wrong with the ND movement in the first place.
It's a hell of a speech there Sophist. You have said an awful of a lot. You have spouted your opinions and I have said mine.
I think that your actions and your ability shown here to justify a stance that is inherently wrong (in my opinion), is trying to dress it up (or righteous justify your actions), still smell off to me and always will. Your have done a great job of trying to convince us and maybe you have had some success here with some of the members. Not me.
Hell I don't hate you. I don't wish you ill. I have lost a lot of respect and trust for you but no biggie.
All the best with your endeavours.
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It's prabably the lack of honesty that irks most, if not all that are concerned with this deal. See, Alex had things all aver WP decrying Autism Speaks, and even let that prat (the dickhead trying to sue them over the t-shirt thing) post his story on the WP front page. Now, at least two years hence, we see Autism Speaks and Alex as bumbuddies, and the majority of the members are either willing to let it ride, or are powerless to stop them. As I said, he even criticised his mate Lau for being way off the mark, and I thought those two were as thick as Quatermass' butt-fluff. Why the turn around, and why didn't Alex go to his old man? Surely he could have gotten a little extra pocket money, or did his dad just tell him to 'go fish?' I know money can be helpful when people are in dire need of it, but what is Alex's reasoning, if he has plenty of dough in his family? Or is it all just another smokescreen. maybe he wants Autism Speaks to fund his Yellow Sneakers enterprises instead of publicizing WP but still not have to declare the tax on it. That might make more sense.
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I would punch him in the face, given half the chance.
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I would punch him in the face, given half the chance.
And I'd be the first person to bet on you.
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Apparently people at WP think i'm not aspergers because I critisise their posts when I don't agree with them, don't want to date other aspies (mainly ones like the ones there) and don't feel sorry for aspie males who can't get laid.
Has anyone there actually said that to you or is that an assumption?
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I would punch him in the face, given half the chance.
And I'd be the first person to bet on you.
Lmao. What gives you the idea that an ex-solider with telepathic abilities could kick alex plank's goofy ass? :LOL:
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I would punch him in the face, given half the chance.
And I'd be the first person to bet on you.
Lmao. What gives you the idea that an ex-solider with telepathic abilities could kick alex plank's goofy ass? :LOL:
I reckon my daughter could kick his arse, I am sure as hell you could.
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I would punch him in the face, given half the chance.
And I'd be the first person to bet on you.
Lmao. What gives you the idea that an ex-solider with telepathic abilities could kick alex plank's goofy ass? :LOL:
Well, the ex-soldier bit would close the deal. :LOL:
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;)
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I would punch him in the face, given half the chance.
And I'd be the first person to bet on you.
Lmao. What gives you the idea that an ex-solider with telepathic abilities could kick alex plank's goofy ass? :LOL:
I could kick his arse and I'm a stick insect , you'd destroy him :evillaugh:
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Sorry to break it to ya, folks, but that's not how grant money works. You make a proposal as to how the money will be allocated, the organization either awards you a grant or doesn't. If you get the grant, you spend it as you'd originally proposed. That's as far as the selling of souls go.
If you want to do some good in this world, generally you need money in order to do so. I can't do my research without funding, and sadly there aren't enough rich philanthropists in the world knocking at my door. You've gotta go to SOME organization to apply for money. I'll also be applying to the NIH. But since my CV is mostly made up of autism-based research, Autism Speaks is the more likely of the predoc fellowships I could attain.
I'm the one who decides what goes into my application, what my dissertation will be, etc., not Autism Speaks. They either accept it or reject it. If they accept it, I get their money to support the work.
I'm not talking about Alex here, but for myself I know that research has shown me that the philosophical debates that the autism fora are rife with are really far too black and white to be anything but a "moral highground" from which to fall off of.
Life is more real than these fora, I'm sorry. Although I'm not trying to debase the communities that have been built online and which are substantially important; they've been my bedrock through a number of hard times. But when it comes to research and business, there are a lot of compromises. I didn't make the game, but that's how it's played if you wish to achieve your goals. My goals are to come to a better understanding of what makes up autism(s) and how, genetically and environmentally, it develops. It's not to eradicate, it's to explain.
What I have a problem with is the ND and parental communities who are CONSTANTLY at war with each other and are too damned blind to see that, in essence, they're really fighting for the SAME DAMNED THING. They just don't happen to agree on how to go about achieving it. So rather than try to cooperate and listen, they're at each others' throats making worse problems than either had before.
So Alex got some money. He's got it from Autism Speaks. He's gonna make some little films about the Spectrum that I'm sure Wrongplanet will watch and probably enjoy. Autism Speaks no doubt had a certain portion of funding that was allocated to go to the community or some such. Alex and Cubby applied for money, John helped them get it. Nepotism, yeah. But that's about it.
Choose your battles. Energy is better spent doing things than bickering. Nobody will change their minds anyways.
Sophist: make damn sure that when you get the grant that you spend it exactly how you want it. If your application is based on what YOUR words are, then it should be up to YOU to do with the money what you see fit, even if they are the ones granting it. If they put strings on how it is meant to be spent, then they are not worth approaching. Given the moral arguments and so forth, they should not have the right to be able to tell you what to do once the grant is given. NIH would be a better alternative, but if it has to be Autism Speaks, then make sure the deal is going to benefit you much more than it will them.
Besides, Alex (as far as we know) would have gotten his announcement spread over a far wider audience had he used a good quality camera and put it on youtube. Even professionally he could have gotten it done far cheaper. But what is really funny about the whole situation is this: why didn't he hit his rich dad up for the dough? The Planks must have a fair bit behind them, why did he need to go to a third party, especially one with a reputation like Autism Speaks?
Once they've handed over the money, it's yours. But they do ask for verification from time to time to guarantee the money is being spent as you said it would. Grants do not normally offer too much wiggle room.
Sure Sophist. OK mate. If that is what gets you through life. Moral ambivalence and justification.
Hell you are nice enough and smart and will no doubt do well in life. Perhaps more so without such intruding ethical or moral stumbling blocks to negotiate.
For the years I've been a part of the online autie community, research hasn't changed me; it hasn't made me compromise. What has changed me? Seeing my ex's 2 year-old grandson who is completely debilitated by his condition, by seizures which are part and parcel of his autism to the point he can't even crawl yet. He's a gorgeous boy, but I would do everything in my power to help him to walk and talk. Christ, to even be AWARE half the time of his environment because he's so lost in his epilepsy.
It's not about eradicating autism and, frankly, that'll never happen. Even prenatal tests would be a load of bollocks because autism is so heterogenetic and likely also involves various environmental factors that you wouldn't be able to tell an autistic from a nonautistic that I don't believe many parents would be taking that risk. And thus far, there is no definitive biomarker to test for it in utero.
I don't want to eradicate anything. I want to celebrate many of the incredible things that can come from an autistic perspective. And believe me, that is a bedrock of my outlook. But I also want to figure out what makes autism tick, and hopefully in doing so I can help people improve their lives.
For instance, let's play Devil's Advocate. It doesn't need to be true, but pretend it is. Let's say that autism is highly genetic, but in order for more severe forms of the conditions to occur, the fetus needs to be exposed to certain environmental agents. Forget the vaccines, let's just say for shits and giggles that exposure to phytoestrogens such as those which come in many canned foods are necessary to turn what would have been an odd yet functional aspie into a severely disabled autistic. The ND movement says that autism is beautiful as it is and we can't play God. But you're a scientist and you find out that if the mother is consistently exposed to these phytoestrogens through her food, that her baby has a 30 times likely chance of developing a moderate to severe form of autism. What do you do? Do you say to yourself, "Well, I shouldn't do anything because autism is beautiful and it's meant to be how it is"? My point is, so MUCH of what the ND movement bases their ideas of "beauty" on are under the misguided notion that autism is completely genetic and therefore "predestined", which any scientist in the field will tell you is fiction.
Autism is not 100% genetic. You don't "inherit" it. You inherit a tendency towards developing it. The severity varies within a given family, from eccentric Broader Phenotype to maybe even a downright severe case or two. Environment plays an important role in this.
For the same reason that Temple Grandin loves cows and works hard to design the more humane cattle shutes that lead them to their deaths, I work to understand the Spectrum. Not because I'm helping lead us to our dooms but because research is GOING to be done, and it's better that it's in the hands of people who understand and value the contributions autistic people make rather than those who just wish to see the "disorder" wiped off the face of the earth.
And if any of you take issue with that and have the misguided nerve to call me immoral and soul-less for trying to do good work, help people, and listen to all sides, then you are the embodiment of what is wrong with the ND movement in the first place.
Seems pretty reasonable, actually. But still, Autism Speaks's goal, seems like, is to eradicate ALL of the Autism Spectrum, not just to see how Autism even ticks or attempt to alleviate the severe symptoms. I thought neurodiversity was about accepting others for who they are, not to just let them suffer. Still a better movement than the anti-neurodiversity movement, because the autistic adults and the parents of autistic children need actual support and positivity, not fallacies and negative propaganda.
I mean, who would you rather listen to? Someone who is offering genuine help and advice for you and/or your children? Or someone who only wants your money (or for you to waste it on expensive so-called treatments which can range somewhere from annoying to inhumane) and always speak of autism in a negative way?
What really kills me is why are some people so damned against even the rather benign traits of others. So much unjustified hatred does nothing for this world.
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Sorry to break it to ya, folks, but that's not how grant money works. You make a proposal as to how the money will be allocated, the organization either awards you a grant or doesn't. If you get the grant, you spend it as you'd originally proposed. That's as far as the selling of souls go.
If you want to do some good in this world, generally you need money in order to do so. I can't do my research without funding, and sadly there aren't enough rich philanthropists in the world knocking at my door. You've gotta go to SOME organization to apply for money. I'll also be applying to the NIH. But since my CV is mostly made up of autism-based research, Autism Speaks is the more likely of the predoc fellowships I could attain.
I'm the one who decides what goes into my application, what my dissertation will be, etc., not Autism Speaks. They either accept it or reject it. If they accept it, I get their money to support the work.
I'm not talking about Alex here, but for myself I know that research has shown me that the philosophical debates that the autism fora are rife with are really far too black and white to be anything but a "moral highground" from which to fall off of.
Life is more real than these fora, I'm sorry. Although I'm not trying to debase the communities that have been built online and which are substantially important; they've been my bedrock through a number of hard times. But when it comes to research and business, there are a lot of compromises. I didn't make the game, but that's how it's played if you wish to achieve your goals. My goals are to come to a better understanding of what makes up autism(s) and how, genetically and environmentally, it develops. It's not to eradicate, it's to explain.
What I have a problem with is the ND and parental communities who are CONSTANTLY at war with each other and are too damned blind to see that, in essence, they're really fighting for the SAME DAMNED THING. They just don't happen to agree on how to go about achieving it. So rather than try to cooperate and listen, they're at each others' throats making worse problems than either had before.
So Alex got some money. He's got it from Autism Speaks. He's gonna make some little films about the Spectrum that I'm sure Wrongplanet will watch and probably enjoy. Autism Speaks no doubt had a certain portion of funding that was allocated to go to the community or some such. Alex and Cubby applied for money, John helped them get it. Nepotism, yeah. But that's about it.
Choose your battles. Energy is better spent doing things than bickering. Nobody will change their minds anyways.
Sophist: make damn sure that when you get the grant that you spend it exactly how you want it. If your application is based on what YOUR words are, then it should be up to YOU to do with the money what you see fit, even if they are the ones granting it. If they put strings on how it is meant to be spent, then they are not worth approaching. Given the moral arguments and so forth, they should not have the right to be able to tell you what to do once the grant is given. NIH would be a better alternative, but if it has to be Autism Speaks, then make sure the deal is going to benefit you much more than it will them.
Besides, Alex (as far as we know) would have gotten his announcement spread over a far wider audience had he used a good quality camera and put it on youtube. Even professionally he could have gotten it done far cheaper. But what is really funny about the whole situation is this: why didn't he hit his rich dad up for the dough? The Planks must have a fair bit behind them, why did he need to go to a third party, especially one with a reputation like Autism Speaks?
Once they've handed over the money, it's yours. But they do ask for verification from time to time to guarantee the money is being spent as you said it would. Grants do not normally offer too much wiggle room.
Sure Sophist. OK mate. If that is what gets you through life. Moral ambivalence and justification.
Hell you are nice enough and smart and will no doubt do well in life. Perhaps more so without such intruding ethical or moral stumbling blocks to negotiate.
For the years I've been a part of the online autie community, research hasn't changed me; it hasn't made me compromise. What has changed me? Seeing my ex's 2 year-old grandson who is completely debilitated by his condition, by seizures which are part and parcel of his autism to the point he can't even crawl yet. He's a gorgeous boy, but I would do everything in my power to help him to walk and talk. Christ, to even be AWARE half the time of his environment because he's so lost in his epilepsy.
It's not about eradicating autism and, frankly, that'll never happen. Even prenatal tests would be a load of bollocks because autism is so heterogenetic and likely also involves various environmental factors that you wouldn't be able to tell an autistic from a nonautistic that I don't believe many parents would be taking that risk. And thus far, there is no definitive biomarker to test for it in utero.
I don't want to eradicate anything. I want to celebrate many of the incredible things that can come from an autistic perspective. And believe me, that is a bedrock of my outlook. But I also want to figure out what makes autism tick, and hopefully in doing so I can help people improve their lives.
For instance, let's play Devil's Advocate. It doesn't need to be true, but pretend it is. Let's say that autism is highly genetic, but in order for more severe forms of the conditions to occur, the fetus needs to be exposed to certain environmental agents. Forget the vaccines, let's just say for shits and giggles that exposure to phytoestrogens such as those which come in many canned foods are necessary to turn what would have been an odd yet functional aspie into a severely disabled autistic. The ND movement says that autism is beautiful as it is and we can't play God. But you're a scientist and you find out that if the mother is consistently exposed to these phytoestrogens through her food, that her baby has a 30 times likely chance of developing a moderate to severe form of autism. What do you do? Do you say to yourself, "Well, I shouldn't do anything because autism is beautiful and it's meant to be how it is"? My point is, so MUCH of what the ND movement bases their ideas of "beauty" on are under the misguided notion that autism is completely genetic and therefore "predestined", which any scientist in the field will tell you is fiction.
Autism is not 100% genetic. You don't "inherit" it. You inherit a tendency towards developing it. The severity varies within a given family, from eccentric Broader Phenotype to maybe even a downright severe case or two. Environment plays an important role in this.
For the same reason that Temple Grandin loves cows and works hard to design the more humane cattle shutes that lead them to their deaths, I work to understand the Spectrum. Not because I'm helping lead us to our dooms but because research is GOING to be done, and it's better that it's in the hands of people who understand and value the contributions autistic people make rather than those who just wish to see the "disorder" wiped off the face of the earth.
And if any of you take issue with that and have the misguided nerve to call me immoral and soul-less for trying to do good work, help people, and listen to all sides, then you are the embodiment of what is wrong with the ND movement in the first place.
I hope they give you millions of dollars for your research, not only because I think you will put it to good use to help people but also because every dollar they give you is a dollar that isn't going to make their commercials that make it look like having a child with autism is a fate worse than death.
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Personally, I don't see why you still bother with WP Fiona.
Its human nature.
People are drawn to what cause controversy (sp?). And tbh I would feel like I need a restraint to not critisise some of the posts there. Like one just then:
Jules22, let me ask you this: how would you feel if your boyfriend never gave you flowers, never took out out to a romantic dinner, never told you how beautiful you look, never bought you chocolates "just because", never gave you emotional support after a stressful day, never wrote you a love letter, and never agreed to help you around the house. That's right, you'd dump him faster than you can say "it's not you, it's me..
Do guys actually do that? I've never met any who do. Thats a stupid stereotype its pretty much never the case.
And saying that women expect that is even worse.
God help me if anyone like that ever registers at my forum. They haven't yet, but I won't be giving them a pity party.
It might be a stereotype, but my husband has done all those things for me and more.
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Its a natural thing for people to try to eliminate people that deviate from their idea of normalcy. Think about it. Why would a concept like normalcy exist?
Humans want the gene pool they belong to, to dominate.
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sophist thats terrible that you have to ask but i guess it is a sad fact of reality. this is why im out of business, im too stubborn!
alex can do whatever he wants now, as im no longer intrested in his bs love affair with AS
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sophist thats terrible that you have to ask but i guess it is a sad fact of reality. this is why im out of business, im too stubborn!
alex can do whatever he wants now, as im no longer intrested in his bs love affair with AS
That's the attitude that let him get away with it in the first place.
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at this point in the game im too old to get so emursed into someone elses life online anymore, and i guess trying to get after alex about his behaviour is gonna suddenly change how he is? if you really want to prove your point then i think boycotting is the only sane responce. besides in the end the truth always comes out and im shure in do time people will finally figure out just who he really is
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It's a hell of a speech there Sophist. You have said an awful of a lot. You have spouted your opinions and I have said mine.
I think that your actions and your ability shown here to justify a stance that is inherently wrong (in my opinion), is trying to dress it up (or righteous justify your actions), still smell off to me and always will. Your have done a great job of trying to convince us and maybe you have had some success here with some of the members. Not me.
Hell I don't hate you. I don't wish you ill. I have lost a lot of respect and trust for you but no biggie.
All the best with your endeavours.
Something tells me you don't exactly lie awake at night tossing and turning worrying about how Autism Speaks is ruining the world. --I don't spite you for disagreeing, Les. I am pissed though you seem to set yourself on some sort of high horse, acting all noble and whatnot. You're a good guy, down to earth, but not someone I would peg as overly moral to the extent you're sincerely capable of looking your nose down at someone like you're doing me right now. I'm pretty turned off by your gall in fact, not by your disagreement. Frankly, my dear, I think you're being an ass.
Seems pretty reasonable, actually. But still, Autism Speaks's goal, seems like, is to eradicate ALL of the Autism Spectrum, not just to see how Autism even ticks or attempt to alleviate the severe symptoms. I thought neurodiversity was about accepting others for who they are, not to just let them suffer. Still a better movement than the anti-neurodiversity movement, because the autistic adults and the parents of autistic children need actual support and positivity, not fallacies and negative propaganda.
Autism Speaks used to be more about eradicating autism. To be honest, nowadays they're just a business and are all about the money. They're not getting much done which would thrill either the pro-cure or anti-cure groups.
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On a side note: For anyone who has an issue with researchers getting funded via Autism Speaks, then become a philanthropist and help make it a non-issue.
I'm a researcher, I need money to do my work. There's not a huge number of organizations from which to choose to apply for said grants.
Give me money.
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The thing about the pro-cure/anti-cure thing is a total missive anyway. Anyone with 2 braincells to rub together would realise that autism CANNOT be cured, unless there is a way of doing genetic therapy (DNA splicing) to look for any particular gene. Personally, I don't think one exists - to me autism is the result of some misfiring of the neural pathways (sort of like epilepsy) but more severe in the fact that it affects more of the central nervous system and has a more damaging effect. Trying to 'rid' society of autistics goes down the path of Mengele and eugenics, and would lead to experimentations which would totally fuck things up altogaether. The only hope is that both sides could learn to accept autistics and people with AS as what they are, and help them cope to a better extent, without trying to kill them off.
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Ouch. Sophist and me are pals too.
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I hope they give you millions of dollars for your research, not only because I think you will put it to good use to help people but also because every dollar they give you is a dollar that isn't going to make their commercials that make it look like having a child with autism is a fate worse than death.
Hopefully they're that generous, but I'm concerned they'll play dirty tricks with awarding grants, considering their reputation.
For instance, they could at first grant you a small amount of money with almost no conditions except what you propose. However when you need another grant, they might say, "We're sorry, but we cannot accept your proposal and award your grant; unless you change a few things in it, then we'll award it". Eventually they'll force more control over your research to a point where they practically manipulate it to their interests. If you refuse, it's simple, your research stops due to insufficient funds. This is why having them fund your research with isn't good news long term. They'll hold power over you when it comes to continued funding. If this is a one-time grant, that won't be a problem, but if it's ongoing research and requires constant funding, this problem may arise eventually.
This of course, would be an non-issue if their were a larger market of people/organisations readily awarding grants. Because if one tries to play dirty, you simply find someone else to fund you.
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here's Alex's Facefuck page:
http://www.facebook.com/alexplank1
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here's Alex's Facefuck page:
http://www.facebook.com/alexplank1
Which one of you is Rod Craven? :zoinks:
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It's a hell of a speech there Sophist. You have said an awful of a lot. You have spouted your opinions and I have said mine.
I think that your actions and your ability shown here to justify a stance that is inherently wrong (in my opinion), is trying to dress it up (or righteous justify your actions), still smell off to me and always will. Your have done a great job of trying to convince us and maybe you have had some success here with some of the members. Not me.
Hell I don't hate you. I don't wish you ill. I have lost a lot of respect and trust for you but no biggie.
All the best with your endeavours.
Something tells me you don't exactly lie awake at night tossing and turning worrying about how Autism Speaks is ruining the world. --I don't spite you for disagreeing, Les. I am pissed though you seem to set yourself on some sort of high horse, acting all noble and whatnot. You're a good guy, down to earth, but not someone I would peg as overly moral to the extent you're sincerely capable of looking your nose down at someone like you're doing me right now. I'm pretty turned off by your gall in fact, not by your disagreement. Frankly, my dear, I think you're being an ass.
I am not "acting noble" I am displaying my disappointment and frustration at you. The two go hand in hand with me.
I am not qualifying what I feel. I would really like to draw a line between the behaviour and you and justify your ability to do what you are to do.
Would make it easier for me to say "Autism Speaks made her" or "She has no choice" or "They tricked her"
Fuck, anything really. Fact is I can not convince myself that you are stupid or naive or not thinking this through. I don't think these things of you and that makes it worse. You will do it knowingly and after carefully weighing things up.
You may be surprised at what keeps me up at night and what fears I hold in my heart. About how seriously I do take things.
As to morality. Well morality is an abstract concept. I am not by any means saintly. I flame and I troll and not overly gentle. I do have very set ideas on where I draw the line and what I condone. I could troll a troll forum or a flame forum all day and mercilessly and it would all be good fun with no pang of conscience. I similarly would not troll or flame a Cancer support forum. You see the difference? Morality
So I am not looking down my nose at you I am saying that you stepped into an area that is in my mind is out of bounds and seeking to justify it.
You can question my morality all you like but it won't change what you say nor my response nor my thoughts on it.
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Sorry to break it to ya, folks, but that's not how grant money works. You make a proposal as to how the money will be allocated, the organization either awards you a grant or doesn't. If you get the grant, you spend it as you'd originally proposed. That's as far as the selling of souls go.
If you want to do some good in this world, generally you need money in order to do so. I can't do my research without funding, and sadly there aren't enough rich philanthropists in the world knocking at my door. You've gotta go to SOME organization to apply for money. I'll also be applying to the NIH. But since my CV is mostly made up of autism-based research, Autism Speaks is the more likely of the predoc fellowships I could attain.
I'm the one who decides what goes into my application, what my dissertation will be, etc., not Autism Speaks. They either accept it or reject it. If they accept it, I get their money to support the work.
I'm not talking about Alex here, but for myself I know that research has shown me that the philosophical debates that the autism fora are rife with are really far too black and white to be anything but a "moral highground" from which to fall off of.
Life is more real than these fora, I'm sorry. Although I'm not trying to debase the communities that have been built online and which are substantially important; they've been my bedrock through a number of hard times. But when it comes to research and business, there are a lot of compromises. I didn't make the game, but that's how it's played if you wish to achieve your goals. My goals are to come to a better understanding of what makes up autism(s) and how, genetically and environmentally, it develops. It's not to eradicate, it's to explain.
What I have a problem with is the ND and parental communities who are CONSTANTLY at war with each other and are too damned blind to see that, in essence, they're really fighting for the SAME DAMNED THING. They just don't happen to agree on how to go about achieving it. So rather than try to cooperate and listen, they're at each others' throats making worse problems than either had before.
So Alex got some money. He's got it from Autism Speaks. He's gonna make some little films about the Spectrum that I'm sure Wrongplanet will watch and probably enjoy. Autism Speaks no doubt had a certain portion of funding that was allocated to go to the community or some such. Alex and Cubby applied for money, John helped them get it. Nepotism, yeah. But that's about it.
Choose your battles. Energy is better spent doing things than bickering. Nobody will change their minds anyways.
I am pleased to find the first post of yours that I have ever seen that sparks of intelligence instead of spank.
My worry is about where some of the funding goes.
I fear that they will eventually be reducing the "numbers of autistics" in the same way that has happened for the Down's Syndrome community; Identify the "syndrome" before birth and abort the child.
This fixes everything, eh?
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here's Alex's Facefuck page:
http://www.facebook.com/alexplank1
Which one of you is Rod Craven? :zoinks:
Why? ;)
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Hopefully they're that generous, but I'm concerned they'll play dirty tricks with awarding grants, considering their reputation.
For instance, they could at first grant you a small amount of money with almost no conditions except what you propose. However when you need another grant, they might say, "We're sorry, but we cannot accept your proposal and award your grant; unless you change a few things in it, then we'll award it". Eventually they'll force more control over your research to a point where they practically manipulate it to their interests. If you refuse, it's simple, your research stops due to insufficient funds. This is why having them fund your research with isn't good news long term. They'll hold power over you when it comes to continued funding. If this is a one-time grant, that won't be a problem, but if it's ongoing research and requires constant funding, this problem may arise eventually.
This of course, would be an non-issue if their were a larger market of people/organisations readily awarding grants. Because if one tries to play dirty, you simply find someone else to fund you.
Grants don't work like that thankfully. There is an application process, you write up your proposal, send it in, a committee reviews it, denies it or accepts it, and if it's accepted you get funded and have to allocate the money as you said you would within the grant proposal. Your grant history often plays a role in what grants you are eligible to receive in future. For instance, if a committee reviews your grant but feels you have too many grants at the current time (i.e., "too much money") they will be more inclined to reject it. If you are a well-known researcher and have applied for grants before through a given organization-- or, hell, sometimes just if you're a well-known researcher!-- usually there is a better chance of receiving further grants.
But the committee either accepts or rejects a grant as is. It isn't the same thing as a publication where a reviewer or editor can come back to you and say "I will give my approval if you alter this, this, and this."
It's pretty straightforward and there's not much wiggle room for dishonesty or manipulation on either party's part.
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My wife took a whole coarse when getting her Master's on grant writing it isn't easy
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My wife took a whole coarse when getting her Master's on grant writing it isn't easy
I had no idea one could get a Masters Degree in grant writing, sounds like a cool job. :2thumbsup:
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Read it as: took a whole course on a grant. Writing isn't easy.
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I like my interpretation better. :zoinks:
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Hopefully they're that generous, but I'm concerned they'll play dirty tricks with awarding grants, considering their reputation.
For instance, they could at first grant you a small amount of money with almost no conditions except what you propose. However when you need another grant, they might say, "We're sorry, but we cannot accept your proposal and award your grant; unless you change a few things in it, then we'll award it". Eventually they'll force more control over your research to a point where they practically manipulate it to their interests. If you refuse, it's simple, your research stops due to insufficient funds. This is why having them fund your research with isn't good news long term. They'll hold power over you when it comes to continued funding. If this is a one-time grant, that won't be a problem, but if it's ongoing research and requires constant funding, this problem may arise eventually.
This of course, would be an non-issue if their were a larger market of people/organisations readily awarding grants. Because if one tries to play dirty, you simply find someone else to fund you.
Grants don't work like that thankfully. There is an application process, you write up your proposal, send it in, a committee reviews it, denies it or accepts it, and if it's accepted you get funded and have to allocate the money as you said you would within the grant proposal. Your grant history often plays a role in what grants you are eligible to receive in future. For instance, if a committee reviews your grant but feels you have too many grants at the current time (i.e., "too much money") they will be more inclined to reject it. If you are a well-known researcher and have applied for grants before through a given organization-- or, hell, sometimes just if you're a well-known researcher!-- usually there is a better chance of receiving further grants.
But the committee either accepts or rejects a grant as is. It isn't the same thing as a publication where a reviewer or editor can come back to you and say "I will give my approval if you alter this, this, and this."
It's pretty straightforward and there's not much wiggle room for dishonesty or manipulation on either party's part.
In that case, I feel more confident you won't be screwed over and manipulated by them. That was my only concern.
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Yeah, they either accept or decline the grant as is.
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Who says I sucked Alex Plank's schlong? :duh:
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Who says I sucked Alex Plank's schlong? :duh:
Alex did on Facebook.
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Well judging by the fact that I could saw wood with your nasty teeth, alex would no longer have a shlong.
The game.
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Well judging by the fact that I could saw wood with your nasty teeth, alex would no longer have a shlong.
The game.
:plus: :rofl:
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PROTIP: Problem with teeth? Punch all those fuckers out and then enjoy your blowjob.
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Now cmere duke... *makes fist*
:sick:
Ouch.
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Now cmere duke... *makes fist*
*sick*
Ouch.
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You are already dead, you just don't know it yet. :evillaugh:
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One sec applying Oldspice... Pa Pa Pa Pa- Pa POWAH!
Now cmere duke... *makes fist*
*sick*
Ouch.
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You are already dead, you just don't know it yet. :evillaugh:
20-1 on for Rage. :hahaha:
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Something tells me this guy't top is too heavy for his bottom and he's going to fall over.
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You are already dead, you just don't know it yet. :evillaugh:
That's all very well, but nothing stops a Falcon Punch, nothing.