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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Nomaken on September 13, 2006, 11:11:44 AM

Title: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Nomaken on September 13, 2006, 11:11:44 AM
I am looking for the problems which cause the most suffering to the most number of people.  I am looking for problems which are immediately obvious, or foreseen to occur within a short period of time(less than 10 or 20 years or something like that).
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Diesel on September 13, 2006, 11:32:49 AM
Career politicians.
Corrupt career politicians.

Basically any decision maker in the government who makes decisions for his/her personal benefit or what benefits their party, not what benefits the people or the peoples/nations future. 

I'll think of more later....

More: Board housewives with agendas.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Nomaken on September 13, 2006, 11:53:45 AM
I wouldn't really call those things problems.  There aren't any politicians in the world that don't work for their own personal benefit and arent liars and theives.  Which would suggest that that is moreso an unalterable part of the human condition.  I'm talking problems like diseases, willful ignorance, economic inconsistencies, the political culture of the country where we are compelled to simplify issues into two sides, the attitude that any problem can be solved with enough effort and competance.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Diesel on September 13, 2006, 01:31:43 PM
I see.

As you mentioned, willful ignorance is a concern of mine, ....just the general attitude of seemingly more an more of todays younger generation. I supervise in a steel forge shop. Most of my employee's didin't graduate highschool....by choice.

The attitiude of so many these days..... that they are *entitled* to wealth and such..... and then piss and moan and point fingers and blame at everyone else because they don't have a big TV, of fancy car, or whatever.

Thug life glamorization really bothers me and I think is a big threat.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: lilia on September 13, 2006, 01:38:36 PM
I think I would have to say cultural blindness and to a degree, isolationism.

There seems to be a fairly large contingent here that has absolutely no concept of life outside of the United States.  The things they see on the television news that they decry as horrors are actually things they need to realize may be perfectly acceptable in the context of the society they exist within.  Sadly, we seem to be pushing toward a goal of being "saviors" of these societies, but not educating ourselves or our children in the least about the fact that what we may find distasteful is what is revered by others.

We also will sometime in the future start seeing more problems economically, especially in terms of China and import/export trade.  China's economy is developing at a fast rate, and the country is producing a number of engineers and scientists, while we lean more toward service industries.  For now academically we will continue to hold the upper hand, simply due to the tradition of education in China, which doesn't favor research and independant though and tends more toward digesting as much known information as possible.  In the future, with China's economic growth and production of high-tech workers, we will begin to lose ground.

I guess in a nutshell, we've been a superpower long enough to let ourselves become blinded to the fact that the rest of the world continues operating and growing, while we focus too narrowly on ourselves. 

Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lucifer on September 13, 2006, 01:54:42 PM
same as everyone else - global warming and fucking up the environment.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Leto729 on September 13, 2006, 07:07:39 PM
We as a Society srewed up pretty good here and there for that is the way of Mankind in the end.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: McGiver on September 13, 2006, 09:45:09 PM
*campaign financing
*republican Party
*Democratic Party
*decline of the middle class
*seperation of the rich and poor (the widening gap)

and what diesel said, i thoroughly agree that career politicians should be eliminated.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Leto729 on September 14, 2006, 01:54:44 AM
I believe in all but one that You said McJagger about career politicians though how Will Replace them but people who want to be career Politicians in the end too.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: McGiver on September 14, 2006, 06:34:43 AM
I believe in all but one that You said McJagger about career politicians though how Will Replace them but people who want to be career Politicians in the end too.

thats the problem kevv.  the people can assure that they will not be career politicians if they begin to vote with more responsibility.  for example; don't vote if the only method you have for voting is by name recognition.


here is what i do.

i don't give a flying fuck who the politician is, i believe that they all need to be recycled.  i vote anti-incumbant.

if both of the choices are brand new, then i vote libertarian.

as far as i see it.  all politicians make campaign promises but only honor those that were made to the people who mainly funded their campaigns;the fat cats.
i also see democrats and republicans being one in the same; a pawn of big business.

so i don't really give a rats ass about either.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Merry Widow on September 14, 2006, 09:17:48 AM
this one, for me:

*seperation of the rich and poor

but globally - not just the way that wealth is distributed in the US.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Merry Widow on September 14, 2006, 09:19:47 AM
shit! i forgot that i'm meant to be pretending to be right-wing this week!

piss shit bollocks.  >:(

in that case, my answer is: islam and homosexuals.  8)
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Leto729 on September 14, 2006, 10:22:23 AM
I believe in all but one that You said McJagger about career politicians though how Will Replace them but people who want to be career Politicians in the end too.

thats the problem kevv. the people can assure that they will not be career politicians if they begin to vote with more responsibility. for example; don't vote if the only method you have for voting is by name recognition.


here is what i do.

i don't give a flying fuck who the politician is, i believe that they all need to be recycled. i vote anti-incumbant.

if both of the choices are brand new, then i vote libertarian.

as far as i see it. all politicians make campaign promises but only honor those that were made to the people who mainly funded their campaigns;the fat cats.
i also see democrats and republicans being one in the same; a pawn of big business.

so i don't really give a rats ass about either.

For Me I am neither pro or anti-incumbent. It is to bad all politicians play game with the ones that vote them in office. It is bad that they are pawns for big business and the fat cats that fund their campaign. What is needed is more transparency in Elections in America.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: McGiver on September 14, 2006, 01:56:15 PM
i think its fairly transparent as it is.

if you fund my campaign i will enact laws which make it legal for you to steal from the working class and poor.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Leto729 on September 14, 2006, 10:28:03 PM
i think its fairly transparent as it is.

if you fund my campaign i will enact laws which make it legal for you to steal from the working class and poor.
You will okay. :D
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 01:57:55 PM
one word. mexicans, they'll do jobs even blacks won't do and they waste taxpayers money. what they need to do is build an electric fence along the whole border, that will stop anyone from trying to get in this country illegally.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lucifer on September 15, 2006, 02:00:33 PM
are you related to sean?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 02:18:44 PM
no
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Beowulf on September 15, 2006, 02:35:16 PM
From what I can see, the Mexican reconquista is a big problem for the US, and Bush doesn't want to do anything to stop it.

I agree with Richard.

Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on September 15, 2006, 05:38:29 PM
Bush and Cheney, not necessarily in that order.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: richard on September 15, 2006, 06:54:27 PM
From what I can see, the Mexican reconquista is a big problem for the US, and Bush doesn't want to do anything to stop it.
of course not. republicans like cheap laborers, and someone has to clean there house. god knows no one else will do it
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Nomaken on September 19, 2006, 05:48:21 PM
I'd like to call hypocrasy a problem(I REALLY would), but like politicians being selfish bastards, i think hypocrasy is an unalterable part of the human condition.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Tom/Mutate on October 02, 2006, 02:15:07 PM
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Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Praetor on October 03, 2006, 02:56:50 PM
1) Corporate Democracy with the pre-text of the old constitution to hide behind, lack of choice in an election. Puppet on the left, puppet on the right. Right wing or more right wing. Freedom of speach and expression providing you have the monatary value to back it up. Problems which come about from unrestricted capitalist markets were monopolies form. Governments used to recognise that a monopoly was bad for democracy but now this issue seems to be ignored despite reoccuring examples of corporate fraud (Enron scandel)

2) Unresolved historical issues a) The divisions of the civil war (the south and north) b) Racial issues related to A, and social inequalities amongst non-white anglo saxon communities

3) Cultural identity. The power religion still holds in society compared to european countries of origin. Attitudes towards work, the family, morals and ethics.

4) Social stratification. The exclusion of lower classes from accessing higher education (college/university) the creation of poverty packets within areas which are left unresolved and assumed to be a consequence of a "free" market. This all contributes to the problems of 3) and 2)

5) On the world stage. Over time it will loose its economic supremacy but will still have its military power. The military commitments its has through treaties such as the defence of South Korea and Taiwan (a stake in the tiger economies) combined with the occupation of Iraq, which is basically a long term investment in a military staging area in the middle east for securing new markets in that region of the world. Rising power of China will come to make the states no longer the "hyper" power of the world economically speaking, also the long term re-emergence of Russia and the decline of its old allies in the European Union, the current anti-US reactionary politics of south and central america will continue to increasingly isolate the united states
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Scrapheap on November 07, 2010, 09:33:46 PM
bump!
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on March 14, 2018, 08:59:05 PM
Our Byzantine legal and political systems.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on March 15, 2018, 02:20:20 AM
Currently, Trump.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on March 15, 2018, 12:11:41 PM
Trump is a PR disaster. When it comes to actual policies, not so much.

He might just pull off a miracle in North Korea.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on March 15, 2018, 07:57:27 PM
*campaign financing
*republican Party
*Democratic Party
*decline of the middle class
*seperation of the rich and poor (the widening gap)

and what diesel said, i thoroughly agree that career politicians should be eliminated.

Nailed it.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on March 16, 2018, 05:33:59 AM
Currently, Trump.
Not just him (assuming he doesn't blow us all up, anyway); all the things that factor in to his being president in the first place.  And that includes failures and fuckups on the right and the left.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on March 16, 2018, 06:58:45 AM
Currently, Trump.
Not just him (assuming he doesn't blow us all up, anyway); all the things that factor in to his being president in the first place.  And that includes failures and fuckups on the right and the left.

Fair enough. Do you think it was something in the water?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on March 16, 2018, 07:30:32 AM
Currently, Trump.
Not just him (assuming he doesn't blow us all up, anyway); all the things that factor in to his being president in the first place.  And that includes failures and fuckups on the right and the left.

Fair enough. Do you think it was something in the water?
Well, in Flint, yeah.   :orly:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Icequeen on March 16, 2018, 03:25:39 PM
Currently, Trump.
Not just him (assuming he doesn't blow us all up, anyway); all the things that factor in to his being president in the first place.  And that includes failures and fuckups on the right and the left.

Fair enough. Do you think it was something in the water?

I seriously wonder myself some days.

We just had a special election here on the 13th...another "Roy Moore" wannabe for the Republicans screaming "Pa is still clinging to their guns and bibles" (google: Saccone guns & bibles, and just be thankful I couldn't link it :P) at his speeches while thumping his bible hard to get those faithful Christian voters.

He lost, but only by less than 700 votes, and I think he's still trying to contest it.

I feel like we've regressed to 1950 and I'm living in the deep south....surrounded by religious zealots. 
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on March 16, 2018, 05:29:34 PM
one word. mexicans, they'll do jobs even blacks won't do and they waste taxpayers money. what they need to do is build an electric fence along the whole border, that will stop anyone from trying to get in this country illegally.

Prophetic?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Gopher Gary on March 16, 2018, 05:56:14 PM
one word. mexicans, they'll do jobs even blacks won't do and they waste taxpayers money. what they need to do is build an electric fence along the whole border, that will stop anyone from trying to get in this country illegally.

Prophetic?

Yeah, Richard was our resident all seeing eye.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on March 16, 2018, 07:24:51 PM
one word. mexicans, they'll do jobs even blacks won't do and they waste taxpayers money. what they need to do is build an electric fence along the whole border, that will stop anyone from trying to get in this country illegally.

Prophetic?

Yeah, Richard was our resident brown eye.  :zoinks:

FYP.   8)
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on March 16, 2018, 10:13:01 PM
Doing jobs even  blacks won't do? 'even' blacks? when they won't do most jobs to begin with. If someone whispers the word 'work' near one then you can bet the only way they won't take off at a sprint, is if they are barefoot and the only footwear available is a pair of workboots, in which case it'll be more cringing in a corner like a vampire confronted with a silver crucifix sharpened at the  into a stake, and dripping holy water saturated with essential oil of garlic, hiding their eyes and hissing :autism:

As for religious zealots, it seems to me like the US has as much religious bloody zealotry going on as the middle fucking east a lot of the time, just with far less tendency towards carrying out their bombing runs with bombs that the user wears as a vest.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: benjimanbreeg on March 17, 2018, 04:57:15 PM
Israeli lobby groups.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Genesis on March 17, 2018, 05:19:28 PM
Even if you were wanting to know my opinions I better not spew them everywhere.... because last time I did, my mother gave me the stink eye  :-[
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on March 17, 2018, 09:32:24 PM
Israeli lobby groups.

The influence of Israeli lobby groups on US foreign policy is more of a world problem.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Jack on March 18, 2018, 12:32:20 AM
Israeli lobby groups.
Welcome back.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Genesis on March 21, 2018, 03:17:35 PM
Fine....  :roar:

Net Neutrality Repeal,
Hollywood being more modest than Religion when it comes to sexual abuse cases,
The fact that idiot pie, I mean ajit pai forced the repeal is a surprise to me... especially since the fellow isn't passed the majority of his term.

There's more.... I just need to think of some.

Fuck it, I'll just rant about it on my blog.

I don't care if I'm looked at as a looney because of it.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Grey Area on March 23, 2018, 02:28:03 PM
The US is in danger of losing its status as World's #1 Laughing Stock to the UK. You yanks need to up your game.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Jack on March 23, 2018, 03:55:26 PM
The US is in danger of losing its status as World's #1 Laughing Stock to the UK. You yanks need to up your game.
What's so funny?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Tequila on March 23, 2018, 04:32:06 PM
The US is in danger of losing its status as World's #1 Laughing Stock to the UK.

We are all mentally subjugated.  We will never be free.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Icequeen on March 23, 2018, 06:32:58 PM
The US is in danger of losing its status as World's #1 Laughing Stock to the UK. You yanks need to up your game.

Hold my beer...the porn star that slept with the president is supposed to be on 60 minutes Sunday.

Her lawyer posted pictures of a DVD on Twitter last night with the hashtag #pleasedenyit.

Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on March 23, 2018, 06:48:48 PM
The US is in danger of losing its status as World's #1 Laughing Stock to the UK. You yanks need to up your game.
What's so funny?

I think Grey Area might be referring to the Lauren Southern/Brittney Pettibone/Martin Sellner fiasco and also the Count Dankula fiasco.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Grey Area on March 23, 2018, 07:15:17 PM
The Brexit fiasco, the Muslim rape gangs fiasco, the whole fiasco about vaguely-worded hate speech laws that can be anti-blasphemy laws if you read them the right way, government bungling in general and the parliamentary opposition that only a fucktard would vote for come the next election. Plenty of fucktards here though, so I can't wait til Labour wins and we get Diane Abbott as Foreign Minister or some shit. If I lived in a different country I'd consider that to be comedy gold, lol.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on March 23, 2018, 07:25:03 PM
Are you pro or anti Brexit??
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Gopher Gary on March 23, 2018, 08:12:54 PM
The Brexit fiasco, the Muslim rape gangs fiasco, the whole fiasco about vaguely-worded hate speech laws that can be anti-blasphemy laws if you read them the right way, government bungling in general and the parliamentary opposition that only a fucktard would vote for come the next election. Plenty of fucktards here though, so I can't wait til Labour wins and we get Diane Abbott as Foreign Minister or some shit. If I lived in a different country I'd consider that to be comedy gold, lol.

 :hahaha:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Gopher Gary on March 23, 2018, 08:13:36 PM
The US is in danger of losing its status as World's #1 Laughing Stock to the UK. You yanks need to up your game.

Hold my beer...the porn star that slept with the president is supposed to be on 60 minutes Sunday.

Her lawyer posted pictures of a DVD on Twitter last night with the hashtag #pleasedenyit.

No one ever asks me to hold their beer.  >:(
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Genesis on March 23, 2018, 09:44:46 PM
The US is in danger of losing its status as World's #1 Laughing Stock to the UK. You yanks need to up your game.

We tried upping our game. Only it didn't work because the tea at the Boston Tea Party was decaffeinated.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on March 24, 2018, 01:50:18 AM
The US is in danger of losing its status as World's #1 Laughing Stock to the UK. You yanks need to up your game.

Hold my beer...the porn star that slept with the president is supposed to be on 60 minutes Sunday.

Her lawyer posted pictures of a DVD on Twitter last night with the hashtag #pleasedenyit.

No one ever asks me to hold their beer.  >:(

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/d2/0a/1bd20a24357f727a2a7443b08cd3c953.jpg)
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on March 24, 2018, 02:06:17 AM
The US is in danger of losing its status as World's #1 Laughing Stock to the UK. You yanks need to up your game.

Oh, I dunno, I think they are regrouping.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Tequila on March 24, 2018, 04:27:57 AM
No one ever asks me to hold their beer.  >:(

Why would people do the beer-holding thing?  Isn't there a ledge or a table they can place their pint or half on?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Calandale on March 24, 2018, 05:12:27 AM

No one ever asks me to hold their beer.  >:(


Hold my beer, rodent.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Gopher Gary on March 25, 2018, 05:00:48 PM
The US is in danger of losing its status as World's #1 Laughing Stock to the UK. You yanks need to up your game.

Hold my beer...the porn star that slept with the president is supposed to be on 60 minutes Sunday.

Her lawyer posted pictures of a DVD on Twitter last night with the hashtag #pleasedenyit.

No one ever asks me to hold their beer.  >:(

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/d2/0a/1bd20a24357f727a2a7443b08cd3c953.jpg)

 :lol1:   :plus:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Gopher Gary on March 25, 2018, 05:02:58 PM
No one ever asks me to hold their beer.  >:(

Why would people do the beer-holding thing?  Isn't there a ledge or a table they can place their pint or half on?

It's just an old saying that implies someone is going to do something drunken wild.  :dunno:



No one ever asks me to hold their beer.  >:(


Hold my beer, rodent.

Finally free beer.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Grey Area on March 28, 2018, 09:06:29 AM
Are you pro or anti Brexit??

Pro democracy, anti EU.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on April 14, 2018, 08:43:07 AM
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hold-my-beer

Notable instance from the trump election:

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/242/668/4cd.jpg)
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on April 17, 2018, 12:51:52 PM
Grey  area-don't hold your breath. Because we are certainly going to stay buggered whilst that filthy traitor to the country (I almost wrote 'to her country' but realized, I just couldn't bring myself to commit that sentence to existence. The very thought makes me want to vomit blood. Out of my anus) May continues to usurp power.

That fucking atrocity can and will never have legitimacy as a  leader of my country. She is a noxious, nanny-statist, lying, scheming gutless, fork-tongued  guttercunt, I cannot wait for the day on which she chokes to death on her own venom. Maybe we will get lucky and the serpents May has for hair will turn on her and bite her.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Genesis on April 18, 2018, 12:43:11 AM
The fact that Donald Trump has a small penis, yet still finds a way to get laid.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on April 18, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
He wouldn't if he wasn't both in a position of power, even if he is  a contemptible slug, who has managed to slime its way onto the cap of a wild mushroom delicacy, and start chewing away, instead of a legitimate incumbent to the presidency; and stinking rich (or rather, just rich and stinking).

Kinda says something about a guy when G.W.Bush says 'well at least he makes me look good in comparison' about them, does it not?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on April 19, 2018, 03:09:47 PM
Grey  area-don't hold your breath. Because we are certainly going to stay buggered whilst that filthy traitor to the country (I almost wrote 'to her country' but realized, I just couldn't bring myself to commit that sentence to existence. The very thought makes me want to vomit blood. Out of my anus) May continues to usurp power.

That fucking atrocity can and will never have legitimacy as a  leader of my country. She is a noxious, nanny-statist, lying, scheming gutless, fork-tongued  guttercunt, I cannot wait for the day on which she chokes to death on her own venom. Maybe we will get lucky and the serpents May has for hair will turn on her and bite her.


Yeah, but what do you REALLY think? :zoinks:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on April 20, 2018, 05:02:55 AM
If I tried to post that, I'd probably end up either violating the host TOS, or causing the server hard drives to spontaneously combust, leaving nothing but a few bits of scorched  circuit board track and a pile of Al2O3 slag.

You can't deny it..she really is a fucking monstrous, slobbering great abortion  that shits all over everything good about this country. Things which thanks  to her are fast going straight down the damn toilet. Although why anything good and decent would want to go down a slimy, shit-stained hole in the ground to drop by on theresa may in her natural habitat is entirely beyond me. Damnable bitch. Only reason she is here in the first place  is that the last few times she's died, perdition refused to take her. Rapists, paedophiles, child-killers, people who torture animals, violent robbers, jihadis and thugs, sure, but even Satan has his limits as to who is welcome down there, obviously. If that weren't the case, May sure as shit wouldn't be walking the earth, leaving cloven hoof-prints in her wake and a little wavy line from where her forked tail and tongue drag against the dirt in which she rightfully belongs.

I'd call her 'the bitch from hell', only I know for a fact I'd get sued by the devil for slander. And would you really want to go up against the largest collection of lawyers in the known universe? :autism:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on April 21, 2018, 02:29:48 AM
Well, I always said she is an amoeba. Spineless.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: "couldbecousin" on April 21, 2018, 03:42:31 AM
  Currently, we have a romaine lettuce problem.  A batch grown in Yuma, Arizona, somehow became
  contaminated with E. coli, and it's made its way into bagged salads and restaurants all over.  :sick:
  The CDC advises us all to throw away any romaine we have, or any mixed salads that might contain it.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on April 21, 2018, 04:12:21 AM
CBC, A Long December is one of my favourite songs. Definitely top 3.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: "couldbecousin" on April 21, 2018, 04:58:48 AM
CBC, A Long December is one of my favourite songs. Definitely top 3.

  Glad to see another fan.  It's morose, yet you can slowly dance to it too. :)
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on April 21, 2018, 10:44:49 AM
Amoeba? nah. Things  prey on amoebae, what the hell would want to eat THAT? I know people eat some pretty foul things, like durian (tried it, I suggest nobody else ever does, stuff is bad enough to evacuate a high-rise building, literally. As in emergency evacuation. Never again, and anyone who tells you it tastes better than it smells, it doesn't, it tastes like rotting leeks and garlic), or that rotting poisonous  shark thing (not sure I can spell it, but its some noxious scandinavian 'food' made by burying the flesh of the greenland sleeper shark, in its natural state, toxic, due to its being a deep-water species, and using high concentrations of urea in its tissues to compensate for the crushing pressures deep down where they live, urea also denatures proteins, and the sharks compensate for this by loading their bodies with high levels of trimethylamine-N-oxide, which is toxic, so, somewhere back in history, someone must have gotten really, really desperately hungry, and buried one, fermented the rotting flesh, to leach out the TMAO and then eaten it. Now its apparently a ''delicacy'', albeit one that you might apply the word to through a tortured-looking grimace)

But THAT? who the fuck would  eat that creature? May is vile enough that not even HIV would want to fuck her.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on April 21, 2018, 02:18:09 PM
CBC, A Long December is one of my favourite songs. Definitely top 3.

  Glad to see another fan.  It's morose, yet you can slowly dance to it too. :)

I would describe the song as "hopeful". I always thought it was about going through a tough period in your life and knowing that things were going to gradually start to be okay. (I know that's not what it's actually about).
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Gopher Gary on April 21, 2018, 05:43:01 PM
It's morose, yet you can slowly dance to it too. :)[/font][/size]

 :eyebrows:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Genesis on April 21, 2018, 05:48:52 PM
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Секретная мечта Дональда Трампа заключалась в том, чтобы стать балериной. Единственная проблема заключалась в том, что он не мог вписаться в колготки.
^
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The secret dream of Donald Trump was to become a ballerina. The only problem was that he could not fit into the tights.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Al Swearegen on April 22, 2018, 04:29:54 AM
The fact that Donald Trump has a small penis, yet still finds a way to get laid.

How do you know he has a small penis? I have no particular understanding either way, but you seem to. How is that?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on April 22, 2018, 04:43:25 AM
Trump has tiny hands, and the myth is that hand size is an indication of penis size.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on April 22, 2018, 09:13:08 AM
If nothing else, his ego would suggest a pencil-dick. He is to egotistical narcissism what kim jong un is to paranoid psychopathic fuck-dom.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Genesis on April 22, 2018, 02:58:54 PM
Trump has tiny hands, and the myth is that hand size is an indication of penis size.

^This
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Al Swearegen on April 22, 2018, 05:07:40 PM
Trump has tiny hands, and the myth is that hand size is an indication of penis size.

^This

Does he have tiny hands or did some one say that to rile him up (and it worked)? Does hand size have to do with penis size? I heard the myth about shoe size and penis size.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Gopher Gary on April 22, 2018, 05:20:32 PM
Yeah, I always thought it's feet.  :orly: I once met a man with no hands in the grocery store. If I met a guy with no feet, I might ask about his penis, but it seems like it would be cruel to ask that about a guy with no hands.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Genesis on April 23, 2018, 10:25:47 PM
Oh if only that was true about me :-/

I mean.....


FUCKING HELL!

-_-
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on April 23, 2018, 11:25:18 PM
Trump has tiny hands, and the myth is that hand size is an indication of penis size.

^This

Does he have tiny hands or did some one say that to rile him up (and it worked)? Does hand size have to do with penis size? I heard the myth about shoe size and penis size.

I'm sure his penis thanks you for defending him. :zoinks:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on April 24, 2018, 07:17:19 AM
Donald Trump doesn't have small hands. I think you'll find that's fake news. Here is a recent photo of the allegedly small hands:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8a/9f/d7/8a9fd786020b0183c471d0ac09110577.jpg)
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Genesis on April 24, 2018, 09:28:41 PM
Donald Trump doesn't have small hands. I think you'll find that's fake news. Here is a recent photo of the allegedly small hands:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8a/9f/d7/8a9fd786020b0183c471d0ac09110577.jpg)

He looks like a Mary Shelly character.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Gopher Gary on April 24, 2018, 11:03:50 PM
Oh if only that was true about me :-/

I mean.....


FUCKING HELL!

-_-

I still love you, Genesis.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Genesis on April 25, 2018, 12:47:11 AM
Oh if only that was true about me :-/

I mean.....


FUCKING HELL!

-_-

I still love you, Genesis.  :zoinks:

 :laugh:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on April 25, 2018, 11:40:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/l6zCbG9.jpg)
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on April 26, 2018, 05:51:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S65jqrHQi_c
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on April 26, 2018, 06:17:57 AM
In Odeon's picture, he looks like a chimp, although he doesn't have that naturally monkey-faced look of Bush, he REALLY looked like a chimp about to throw his own faeces at the nearest journalist, or start rubbing it all over himself (what a horrendously disturbing thought). Trump still looks like an overweight monkey though.

Elle's picture...he looks like a rejected candidate for the special olympics who's just had a firecracker inserted where the sun never shines (despite his own opinion, it does not in fact, shine out of the orifice he believes it to :spazz:)
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Grey Area on April 26, 2018, 07:19:29 AM
(https://i.redd.it/r956tu3qi8u01.png)

Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on April 26, 2018, 12:51:26 PM
The US is still a country where the election happens on a work day. Many people can't even get time off to vote. I'd say that is a big problem for a country that thinks of itself as a democracy.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Icequeen on April 26, 2018, 04:47:51 PM
A big number of young people did not vote in this election, or any of the others.

...or because they didn't like either of the two primary candidates, they voted for a third party.

A third party president hasn't happened here since George Washington...the last third party candidate to actually even win one lousy state was Wallace in 1968.

Maybe this is the wake up call people needed.



Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: DirtDawg on April 26, 2018, 07:03:26 PM
Donald Trump doesn't have small hands. I think you'll find that's fake news. Here is a recent photo of the allegedly small hands:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8a/9f/d7/8a9fd786020b0183c471d0ac09110577.jpg)

I am sorry, but if I compare his hands to mine ... uhm   ....   not only are mine a bit larger, compared to my head, my hands have some muscle that was developed over a life of using my hands to do hard work and I have heavy, deep calluses on them to prove it.

Now, I have not done really hard work in over two years, but the evidence of hard work is still there. Just from the muscles alone  ...   in fact I can challenge any man to a grip thing. I never lose these. Well, unless I foolishly challenge one of my uncles who have done hard work their whole lives and never had a break.
 :headhurts:

Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Calandale on April 26, 2018, 09:17:36 PM


A third party president hasn't happened here since George Washington...the last third party candidate to actually even win one lousy state was Wallace in 1968.



I'm not quite sure how to look at Lincoln. The Republicans were definitely NOT the Whigs. They were a fairly new
party, who would have had no hope, had both the prior established parties not imploded. Of course, the results
were not optimal.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Calandale on April 26, 2018, 09:19:02 PM


Now, I have not done really hard work in over two years, but the evidence of hard work is still there. Just from the muscles alone  ...   in fact I can challenge any man to a grip thing. I never lose these. Well, unless I foolishly challenge one of my uncles who have done hard work their whole lives and never had a break.
 :headhurts:


Your family immune to arthritis? My grip's gone to shit, due to it.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: DirtDawg on April 27, 2018, 12:16:21 AM

Not so much.
Arthritis in my knee joints is why I travel with a cane. I have already had one hip replaced with a prosthetic hip joint. Another surgery is approaching on the other hip. More Physical Therapy is due for my knees before they saw more pieces of me off to be replaced with titanium.

Not everyone in my family has this arthritis shit.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on April 27, 2018, 01:20:03 AM
I'm 53 years old and I don't have arthritis.

My hands are big. On a standard piano I can reach 10 notes easy, 11 if I stretch, with one hand.

The skin on my hands is as soft as a baby's skin. No matter what I do it won't thicken up. Even if I get calluses they just flake off after a while.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on April 27, 2018, 06:02:20 AM
The US is still a country where the election happens on a work day. Many people can't even get time off to vote. I'd say that is a big problem for a country that thinks of itself as a democracy.
Remember this?  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/01/opinion/voting-suppression-videogame.html
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Calandale on April 27, 2018, 07:01:39 AM
The US is still a country where the election happens on a work day. Many people can't even get time off to vote. I'd say that is a big problem for a country that thinks of itself as a democracy.
Remember this?  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/01/opinion/voting-suppression-videogame.html (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/01/opinion/voting-suppression-videogame.html)


Oh cool, I didn't even need to be registered!
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on April 27, 2018, 04:45:36 PM
I'm 53 years old and I don't have arthritis.

I'm your age and have psoriatic arthritis. I'm lucky in that it isn't destructive, at least not yet, but it's a pain, figuratively and literally.

Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: renaeden on April 27, 2018, 09:18:50 PM
I'm 53 years old and I don't have arthritis.
I'm your age and have psoriatic arthritis. I'm lucky in that it isn't destructive, at least not yet, but it's a pain, figuratively and literally.
In my 20s I had arthritis in my wrists (I don't know what type, I know there are many) and took Vioxx for it and it worked like magic before it was taken off the market. Now I have no constant pain but I can't put any weight on my hands or my wrists complain big time.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on April 28, 2018, 01:37:18 AM
I'm 53 years old and I don't have arthritis.
I'm your age and have psoriatic arthritis. I'm lucky in that it isn't destructive, at least not yet, but it's a pain, figuratively and literally.
In my 20s I had arthritis in my wrists (I don't know what type, I know there are many) and took Vioxx for it and it worked like magic before it was taken off the market. Now I have no constant pain but I can't put any weight on my hands or my wrists complain big time.

Damn, I'm sorry. :(

Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: renaeden on April 28, 2018, 05:34:32 AM
I'm 53 years old and I don't have arthritis.
I'm your age and have psoriatic arthritis. I'm lucky in that it isn't destructive, at least not yet, but it's a pain, figuratively and literally.
In my 20s I had arthritis in my wrists (I don't know what type, I know there are many) and took Vioxx for it and it worked like magic before it was taken off the market. Now I have no constant pain but I can't put any weight on my hands or my wrists complain big time.
Damn, I'm sorry. :(
Thank you, it's ok.

It's weird though, I wouldn't mind some scans or x-rays or something so I know what damage happened in my 20s. And what type of arthritis it was. I don't know of anyone that's had the same problem.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on April 28, 2018, 06:19:04 AM
I had problems with my wrists in my early twenties. Pain, couldn't twist or put weight on them. I learned to be careful how I lift things and they've been fine for the past 25+ years.

My mother had bad arthritis well before she was my age and I always thought I'd get it too. Considering some of the stupid things I did as a teenager it's surprising I don't have bad arthritis in my fingers.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on April 28, 2018, 01:10:25 PM
Is this the "you know you're getting older..." thread? :zoinks:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on April 28, 2018, 01:35:03 PM
There's something wrong with your website Odeon. It's putting my posts in the wrong thread.  :tinfoil:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on April 28, 2018, 04:24:46 PM
Joint issues suck. Mine really make it difficult a lot of the time, way too much of the time, even with pain meds.

The worst is at night, when I can't lie flat on my back, because both hips hurt, I can't roll over on my right side, because  my right hip hurts, and  I can't lie on my left side because  my left hip and left knee hurt like fuck, and  so does the nerve  damage along that side of my leg.

Although interestingly, I've been, although its my first day, finding that taking methadone, it helps with the neuropathic  pain, whilst morphine or oxy only do if they are taken in doses large enough to knock me out completely or else make me so sleepy most all I can do is keep falling asleep playing videogames. But methadone has  some, although not strong, NMDA antagonist effects, and this type of compound (NMDA antagonists) are excellent for neuropathic pain. I can't even feel anything awful if I run my hand up and down the side of my leg, something no dose of morphine or/and oxycodone could ever manage.








Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on April 29, 2018, 01:24:19 AM
There's something wrong with your website Odeon. It's putting my posts in the wrong thread.  :tinfoil:

It's what happens when you get older. :zoinks:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on April 29, 2018, 05:26:15 AM
Well at least you can tell if my posts are in the wrong thread.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on April 29, 2018, 11:06:35 PM
Well at least you can tell if my posts are in the wrong thread.

This is I2, though. "Wrong thread" is just a concept. :M
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Calandale on April 29, 2018, 11:23:11 PM
Like chocolate.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on April 30, 2018, 05:34:44 AM
I'm 53 years old and I don't have arthritis.
I'm your age and have psoriatic arthritis. I'm lucky in that it isn't destructive, at least not yet, but it's a pain, figuratively and literally.
In my 20s I had arthritis in my wrists (I don't know what type, I know there are many) and took Vioxx for it and it worked like magic before it was taken off the market. Now I have no constant pain but I can't put any weight on my hands or my wrists complain big time.
Damn, I'm sorry. :(
Thank you, it's ok.

It's weird though, I wouldn't mind some scans or x-rays or something so I know what damage happened in my 20s. And what type of arthritis it was. I don't know of anyone that's had the same problem.
I know young people with those *symptoms* but I think for them it's usually carpal tunnel or some other nerve or soft tissue problem.

(Often learn about people's wrist problems in pole when suggesting they try a move using bracket grip.)
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: renaeden on April 30, 2018, 08:25:47 PM
That sounds painful just thinking about it. I seriously doubt I could hold my considerable weight in pole dancing.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on April 30, 2018, 10:02:23 PM
I seriously doubt the pole could hold my weight.....
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on May 01, 2018, 02:14:02 AM
I do weekly physio in a swimming pool with a group of others with similar problems as mine. Most are my age or thereabouts, but there's also this young guy, in his early twenties. No fun to get problems so early in life. :(
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 01, 2018, 07:31:33 AM
That sounds painful just thinking about it. I seriously doubt I could hold my considerable weight in pole dancing.
Not sure what part of Australia you're in (watch me be wrong and you're not even on that continent) but I know there's a pretty good pole scene at least in some parts.

And you'd be able to do pole.  Not necessarily that grip right off the bat, but pole is for nearly every body type (possibly exceptions being people who have things like like extreme shoulder or back problems who couldn't do it safely).
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on May 01, 2018, 10:50:50 AM
You don't look fat to me ren, at all:) I think you'd look great poledancing :autism:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: renaeden on May 01, 2018, 09:09:02 PM
That sounds painful just thinking about it. I seriously doubt I could hold my considerable weight in pole dancing.
Not sure what part of Australia you're in (watch me be wrong and you're not even on that continent) but I know there's a pretty good pole scene at least in some parts.

And you'd be able to do pole.  Not necessarily that grip right off the bat, but pole is for nearly every body type (possibly exceptions being people who have things like like extreme shoulder or back problems who couldn't do it safely).
Right near my psychiatrist's office in East Perth, there's Bobbi's Pole Dance Studio, painted pink. That's the only one I've seen and it brings you to mind every time I see it.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 04, 2018, 06:10:42 AM
That sounds painful just thinking about it. I seriously doubt I could hold my considerable weight in pole dancing.
Not sure what part of Australia you're in (watch me be wrong and you're not even on that continent) but I know there's a pretty good pole scene at least in some parts.

And you'd be able to do pole.  Not necessarily that grip right off the bat, but pole is for nearly every body type (possibly exceptions being people who have things like like extreme shoulder or back problems who couldn't do it safely).
Right near my psychiatrist's office in East Perth, there's Bobbi's Pole Dance Studio, painted pink. That's the only one I've seen and it brings you to mind every time I see it.
http://perth.bobbispolestudio.com.au/classes/  They have a $15 beginners no-commitment class.  I think you should go and report back.  Don't think I've heard of it but it looks a hell of a lot better put together than either of the studios I go to. :thumbup:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: renaeden on May 04, 2018, 06:17:21 AM
I don't think I'll go. I'm fat as and I don't own any shorts or high heels. Plus there's the whole people thing. There's people there. I'll just remain curious.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 04, 2018, 06:49:18 AM
I don't think I'll go. I'm fat as and I don't own any shorts or high heels. Plus there's the whole people thing. There's people there. I'll just remain curious.
You shouldn't need heels for an intro class.  Shorts, ideally, yes.  You also don't need to be skinny.  (I still do it, with my mid-thirties desk-job chub.)

If you don't like people, schedule a private lesson :P
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 04, 2018, 06:50:01 AM
also, can we appreciate that the "What are the most important problems faced by the united states?" has devolved into me trying to get someone to take pole class in Australia?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on May 05, 2018, 07:23:58 AM
I've accepted it. I will start talking about the US problems in the headache thread. :P
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: DirtDawg on May 05, 2018, 02:34:22 PM
I do weekly physio in a swimming pool with a group of others with similar problems as mine. Most are my age or thereabouts, but there's also this young guy, in his early twenties. No fun to get problems so early in life. :(

Are you doing the warm, very warm in my book, pool therapy with flotation on your upper body and weights on your lower? Barely able to touch the pool floor or the controller inflates you flotation device. That is where I go weekly.
It helps for about an hour.
 :-\
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on May 06, 2018, 02:10:55 AM
I do weekly physio in a swimming pool with a group of others with similar problems as mine. Most are my age or thereabouts, but there's also this young guy, in his early twenties. No fun to get problems so early in life. :(

Are you doing the warm, very warm in my book, pool therapy with flotation on your upper body and weights on your lower? Barely able to touch the pool floor or the controller inflates you flotation device. That is where I go weekly.
It helps for about an hour.
 :-\

It's warm, yes, but there are no weights on my lower body. We do use various flotation devices, though.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 07, 2018, 05:24:01 AM
I've accepted it. I will start talking about the US problems in the headache thread. :P
That's an appropriate place for them.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: DirtDawg on May 07, 2018, 08:09:28 AM
I do weekly physio in a swimming pool with a group of others with similar problems as mine. Most are my age or thereabouts, but there's also this young guy, in his early twenties. No fun to get problems so early in life. :(

Are you doing the warm, very warm in my book, pool therapy with flotation on your upper body and weights on your lower? Barely able to touch the pool floor or the controller inflates you flotation device. That is where I go weekly.
It helps for about an hour.
 :-\

It's warm, yes, but there are no weights on my lower body. We do use various flotation devices, though.


... but does it help for more than an hour or so?

I am losing enthusiasm since the good effect seems to go away so quickly, tbh.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on May 07, 2018, 02:49:12 PM
Elle-of course we can, afterall, we ARE talking about I2 here, derailment is the rule,  although  exceptions may be made in the case of special and  extenuating circumstance.

And  Ren...dammit to hell! you AREN'T fat. Curvy, sure, but in a good way, the pretty kind  of curvy not the 'euphemism for fat fuck' kind.

And elle is right, you could always go for private lessons, until you become more comfortable with it. And besides, I don't see anyone complaining about seeing you swinging  from a pile.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: renaeden on May 07, 2018, 10:26:26 PM
Lestat, it really is a long way from home - a bus and two trains worth, would take me over an hour to get there. If in Mandurah, I'd give it a go.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on May 07, 2018, 11:24:45 PM
I do weekly physio in a swimming pool with a group of others with similar problems as mine. Most are my age or thereabouts, but there's also this young guy, in his early twenties. No fun to get problems so early in life. :(

Are you doing the warm, very warm in my book, pool therapy with flotation on your upper body and weights on your lower? Barely able to touch the pool floor or the controller inflates you flotation device. That is where I go weekly.
It helps for about an hour.
 :-\

It's warm, yes, but there are no weights on my lower body. We do use various flotation devices, though.


... but does it help for more than an hour or so?

I am losing enthusiasm since the good effect seems to go away so quickly, tbh.

It helps for a while. Not long enough. I suppose the real benefit is that my back stays mobile.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 08, 2018, 05:39:36 AM
Lestat, it really is a long way from home - a bus and two trains worth, would take me over an hour to get there. If in Mandurah, I'd give it a go.
http://www.aerialaddictionmandurah.com/  :P
Also this one looks close-ish:
https://www.studio27.com.au/

Neither have cost of single-session classes listed, so you'd have to ask.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: renaeden on May 09, 2018, 12:27:21 AM
Lestat, it really is a long way from home - a bus and two trains worth, would take me over an hour to get there. If in Mandurah, I'd give it a go.
http://www.aerialaddictionmandurah.com/  :P
Also this one looks close-ish:
https://www.studio27.com.au/

Neither have cost of single-session classes listed, so you'd have to ask.
Both are about a ten minute drive from where I live. You would make a great detective, El.

Since I'm already paying to go to a gym, I don't know how I'd go with this too. Well worth thinking about though, thanks. :)
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 09, 2018, 05:27:19 AM
Lestat, it really is a long way from home - a bus and two trains worth, would take me over an hour to get there. If in Mandurah, I'd give it a go.
http://www.aerialaddictionmandurah.com/  :P
Also this one looks close-ish:
https://www.studio27.com.au/

Neither have cost of single-session classes listed, so you'd have to ask.
Both are about a ten minute drive from where I live. You would make a great detective, El.

Since I'm already paying to go to a gym, I don't know how I'd go with this too. Well worth thinking about though, thanks. :)
Tell us how it goes when you come to your senses and decide to try it.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Calandale on May 09, 2018, 09:07:27 AM
You own stock in pole manufacturers or something?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 10, 2018, 05:25:52 AM
You own stock in pole manufacturers or something?
I'm basically as fixated on pole as Lestat is on drugs, except it's slightly less likely to kill me (still could if I fuck up bad enough though).
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Calandale on May 10, 2018, 09:51:02 AM
That, and your posts are usually readable.


Except when you succumb to the wall of text malady as well.
Do poll dancing and drugs cause that?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on May 10, 2018, 05:12:50 PM
Its more pharmacology and biochemistry, Elle, sometimes that  happens to include psychoactives, plenty of times, it doesn't.

As for the combination with pole-dancing, I can't say  as I've ever tried :autism:

I doubt very much that my hips or knee would be very happy about it if I did.  come to think about it they aren't very happy with my just standing up, walking about or sitting/lying down.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 10, 2018, 06:16:31 PM
That, and your posts are usually readable.


Except when you succumb to the wall of text malady as well.
Do poll dancing and drugs cause that?
There's lots of problems I'm assuming pole dancing + drugs could cause.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Calandale on May 10, 2018, 08:48:55 PM
*sigh* I meant each individually.


McJ was unaffected by this malady. Odeon is not either.


I'd guess they neither pole dance nor overdose regularly.






Les probably does at least one of these.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on May 10, 2018, 11:30:53 PM
Les probably does at least one of these.

Hand me the brain bleach, please.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 11, 2018, 05:21:02 AM
*sigh* I meant each individually.


McJ was unaffected by this malady. Odeon is not either.


I'd guess they neither pole dance nor overdose regularly.






Les probably does at least one of these.
I'm pretty sure it's the drugs that do it.

I try not to wall-o-text, but if I do, I doubt it's because of pole.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Icequeen on May 11, 2018, 09:11:46 AM
I wall-o-text better with wine. 8)
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Calandale on May 11, 2018, 09:55:44 AM
*sigh* I meant each individually.


McJ was unaffected by this malady. Odeon is not either.


I'd guess they neither pole dance nor overdose regularly.






Les probably does at least one of these.
I'm pretty sure it's the drugs that do it.

I try not to wall-o-text, but if I do, I doubt it's because of pole.


How often do you mix your own psychotropics?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on May 12, 2018, 02:34:38 AM
I can't be bothered to do walls of text.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Minister Of Silly Walks on May 12, 2018, 05:31:19 AM
Wall of text is fine, I can skim and get the gist. If it looks interesting I can go back and read more slowly. Wall of angry word salad indicates deeper problems.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on May 12, 2018, 11:05:04 AM
I like things to be short and to the point.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Calandale on May 12, 2018, 10:11:46 PM
Yep
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: "couldbecousin" on May 13, 2018, 03:54:39 PM
I like things to be short and to the point.

  Like your greeting to new members: "Welcome, etc."  :rofl:
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on May 13, 2018, 04:59:59 PM
Can't say as I've  done either recently.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 13, 2018, 06:40:32 PM
*sigh* I meant each individually.


McJ was unaffected by this malady. Odeon is not either.


I'd guess they neither pole dance nor overdose regularly.






Les probably does at least one of these.
I'm pretty sure it's the drugs that do it.

I try not to wall-o-text, but if I do, I doubt it's because of pole.


How often do you mix your own psychotropics?
Does a single advil and 0.25mg of xanax count as mixing my own psychotropics?  Because if so, last time was about 4am Friday into Saturday morning.

That was an unusually bad night.  :/
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: odeon on May 13, 2018, 11:16:57 PM
I like things to be short and to the point.

  Like your greeting to new members: "Welcome, etc."  :rofl:

It covers all the basics. :M
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Calandale on May 14, 2018, 03:20:16 AM

Does a single advil and 0.25mg of xanax count as mixing my own psychotropics?  Because if so, last time was about 4am Friday into Saturday morning.

That was an unusually bad night.  :/


They still sell Xanax? Or, is this old enough that it mutated into something else?
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: Lestat on May 14, 2018, 03:36:41 AM
I got the sense that the poster meant actually synthesizing the psychoactives personally.

And yeah alprazolam is used a lot in the US, although in the UK it can't be prescribed on the NHS as  its blacklisted, although can be by private practice.

Not common here other than bars pressed for dark net markets, although its very common for fake xanax bars to be made using etizolam, a thienodiazepine with benzo-like chemistry and effects to be present instead of alprazolam)

Never had it myself, but I'm quite happy with either my prescription nitrazepam or loprazolam instead. I seem amongst benzos to have a 'thing' for nitrobenzodiazepines as those working best for me)

Had a dose of nitrazepam the other day actually, a few, spaced over the day, when I was feeling really overloaded physically, along with some clonidine and tizanidine, which both block release of noradrenaline, helped kill off that nasty overloading and  get me some sleep.

I have to say I prefer the non-benzodiazepine drug chlormethiazole a lot, to benzos of all kinds though, its fast acting as hell, its strong, very effective hypnotic-sedative and anticonvulsant, acting much more like barbiturates rather than benzos when it comes to how it interacts with the chloride channel gating kinetics of GABAa receptors.

Unlike the barbs it didn't get shitcanned, probably due to some specific qualities that give it an advantage in treating alcoholism, despite huge recreational  potential and also a very unforgiving dose-response curve and being lethal in OD unlike  benzos.

I've got a script for both, though, the chlormethiazole for antiseizure prophylaxis, and also a nitrazepam script that the doctors mutated into a repeated automatically issued thing rather than the temporary script I asked for and docs should use  when dispensing benzo or other  GABAergic scripts.

I only use it occasionally though (the nitrazepam), so as  not to come close to tolerance  or dependency.

And  if I wanted them, I could pick up valium, either 2mg whites, 5mg yellows or 10mg blues cheap on the street, as well as mogadon (nitrazepam) and  temazepam. This script I had was meant only ever to be temporary but they seem to have gotten impatient or bored or both, and to save me making repeat appointments for refills, they just chucked it into 'print these every week folks' basket and I've had it ever since which is handy for when its just 'one of those days' that shouldn't exist.

I've never actually done a benzodiazepine synthesis myself though. I don't use them recreationally other than a couple of moggies  with a few beers now and then. Never done it, but its within the realms of my abilities if  I chose to.

For my go-to DIY sedative-hypnotic, its got to be chlormethiazole. Easy to make, although the precursor prepared from vitamin B1 requires careful cleaning and removal of water soluble byproducts, in particular, a nasty little bugger called toxopyrimidine, a potent antagonist of vitamin B6 which prevents biosynthesis of GABA, making it a potent convulsant and excitotoxin.

Otherwise its just cleavage with bisulfite then chlorination of the alcohol either with thionyl chloride (preferable to me) or phosphorus trichloride to afford chlormethiazole. A LOT simpler than a benzo synth, and the product is preferable to me too.

The pros and cons being mainly that the cleanup is far easier using SOCl2, although thionyl chloride is hard to buy and very difficult and unpleasant to make. PCl3 would  be easier to make at home, at least as long as one can obtain large amounts of red phosphorus, thankfully not a problem for me, having 2 kg of red P spare for general phosphorus-containing reagent preparations, or when red or white P needs to be used directly.

SOCl2 breaks down into HCl and SO2 and like phosphorus trichloride is hydrolyzed, potentially quite violently in either case, and either reagent needs to be handled in anhydrous conditions.  But its also fast, and the byproducts are both gaseous and so leave the reaction easily, whereas the phosphorus based byproducts of using PCl3 would need removal in an extra step of workup, while with SOCl2, in chlormethiazole synthesis they can be removed during the vacuum distillation of the freebase product.

So all in all, I'll take the  SOCl2 route, nice quick and clean. I  CBF preparing the phosphorus trichloride, freeing it from phosphorus pentachloride, using up my red phosphorus, unless I NEED  PCl3 or PCl5, POCl3 etc., it'd be a pain generally speaking to have to do in advance.
Title: Re: What are the most important problems faced by the united states?
Post by: El on May 14, 2018, 06:28:47 AM

Does a single advil and 0.25mg of xanax count as mixing my own psychotropics?  Because if so, last time was about 4am Friday into Saturday morning.

That was an unusually bad night.  :/


They still sell Xanax? Or, is this old enough that it mutated into something else?
Of course they do, but in my case, it's a legit prescription.  Almost never take it, and I'm on a tiny dose, but it's good to have when I need it.  Like when I start having a panic attack in the middle of the night.

I really am very careful about it, though.  Saw my mom go through a phase of being a benzo zombie when I was a teenager and I'm all set with that.  I hate taking pills, but view it as a necessary evil at times.