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Title: Only in America..
Post by: jman on December 03, 2009, 07:24:38 PM
 :LMAO:  :tooledup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRRxZ9bVZ4c
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Parts on December 03, 2009, 07:35:34 PM
I have no functional guns but there is a big knife or axe within reaching distance from almost anywhere i n my house :zoinks: Including under my pillows and at least 2 on me at all times
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: 'andersom' on December 03, 2009, 07:42:25 PM
I have no functional guns but there is a big knife or axe within reaching distance from almost anywhere i n my house :zoinks: Including under my pillows and at least 2 on me at all times

Doesn't that make taking a shower or having naked activities for two at least a bit tricky?
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Blasted on December 03, 2009, 07:44:19 PM
Guns suck.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Parts on December 03, 2009, 07:49:07 PM
No they Shoot
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Scrapheap on December 03, 2009, 08:31:23 PM
I suck.
::)
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Blasted on December 03, 2009, 08:34:51 PM
No u do.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 06, 2009, 03:14:40 AM
I'm not sure why this was posted to failblog, I mean yeah it's a stupid product and overpriced, but I'm not seeing the "fail" part. 
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 06, 2009, 05:35:02 AM
It'll probably take the same time to get the gun out of the drawer/under the bed.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Peter on December 06, 2009, 08:58:08 AM
I want to know what the ratio is between shootings of criminals and shootings of kids/pets/spouses/neighbours for users of this item.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: normal_impaired on December 06, 2009, 09:31:41 AM
I'm not sure why this was posted to failblog, I mean yeah it's a stupid product and overpriced, but I'm not seeing the "fail" part. 

I know, it's perfect, it's even just the right height that your infant can easily get at it too.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: ASpHole on December 06, 2009, 10:30:12 AM
Guns suck.

Guns don't suck, they're really nothing more than toy or a tool that can be used recreationally or as a tool to provide food and protection. Confrontational assholes who have to hide behind a gun to prove themselves suck tremendously.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Blasted on December 06, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
Guns suck.

Guns don't suck, they're really nothing more than toy or a tool that can be used recreationally or as a tool to provide food and protection. Confrontational assholes who have to hide behind a gun to prove themselves suck tremendously.

They do.  They are built to kill.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2009, 11:32:51 AM
Guns suck.

Guns don't suck, they're really nothing more than toy or a tool that can be used recreationally or as a tool to provide food and protection. Confrontational assholes who have to hide behind a gun to prove themselves suck tremendously.

They do.  They are built to kill.

Yes, they are. And cars are made to transport people. And here in Sweden about 500 people are killed by cars every year and 10-20 people are killed in gun crimes, most of them by illegal guns. So...are the guns bad or the people who are using them? The cars or the people who are using them?
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Blasted on December 06, 2009, 11:36:24 AM
Guns suck.

Guns don't suck, they're really nothing more than toy or a tool that can be used recreationally or as a tool to provide food and protection. Confrontational assholes who have to hide behind a gun to prove themselves suck tremendously.

They do.  They are built to kill.

Yes, they are. And cars are made to transport people. And here in Sweden about 500 people are killed by cars every year and 10-20 people are killed in gun crimes, most of them by illegal guns. So...are the guns bad or the people who are using them? The cars or the peole who are using them?

That's a stupid counter-argument because guns don't have any other uses except for killing live beings.  Oh yeah, you can take it out and shoot it at targets and what not but the fact remains that it's primary use is to kill things.  That's what they are manufactured for.  Obviously you can kill using a number of different objects that weren't necessarily made for that purpose  ::)
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2009, 11:53:01 AM
But cars were never made for killing people, yet they kill 500 Swedes a year.

And not to be cynical but: do you really feel sorry for animals getting killed for being meat or criminals being killed by law-abiding citizens? I don't.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Blasted on December 06, 2009, 11:59:17 AM
Who cares?  That's the fault of people not guns themselves as they use a car in an incorrect way.  The same can't be said for guns because killing is what they're meant to do.

Also, it's not people's place to judge who the "criminal" or who the "law-biding citizen" is as it's usually more complicated than that in life Lit.  I do feel sorry for animals getting killed for meat hence why I'm a vegeterian but I'm not imposing my views on you with this, so I don't see why you should bring it up in the first place as it's pretty irrelevant.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Scrapheap on December 06, 2009, 12:25:02 PM
That's a stupid counter-argument because guns don't have any other uses except for killing live beings.  Oh yeah, you can take it out and shoot it at targets and what not but the fact remains that it's primary use is to kill things.  That's what they are manufactured for.  Obviously you can kill using a number of different objects that weren't necessarily made for that purpose  ::)

Guns are also used for self defense almost a million times a year in America. The vast amjority of these times, not a single shot was fired. The would-be criminal sees the gun and makes a hasty retreat. So much for your "theory".  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: normal_impaired on December 06, 2009, 01:03:08 PM
What about BB guns, they're not designed to kill anything, nor really can they kill anything bigger than a squrrel when used as designed, but point blank in the eye and into the brain could still kill a human, so does that make them bad?

What would you rather, be shot, or be pickaxed?
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 06, 2009, 01:08:32 PM
People can intentionally kill others without weapons. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Blasted on December 06, 2009, 01:22:34 PM
What about BB guns, they're not designed to kill anything, nor really can they kill anything bigger than a squrrel when used as designed, but point blank in the eye and into the brain could still kill a human, so does that make them bad?

What would you rather, be shot, or be pickaxed?

Me, I'd rather not get killed at all thank you very much  :zoinks:  Just to humour you though, using a pickaxe or a knife introduces a personal element that a lot of people wouldn't be willing to deal with, not to mention such attacks are also probably less likely to be fatal.  It's easier to be detached and make a hasty decision with a gun while knives and such are messy.  Not to mention axes and knives do have other intended uses.  Guns don't.  Which brings me back to my main point.

You can't escape the fact that guns are made for killing things.  Whatever you may argue, that is their primary function. 
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 06, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
He already knows guns kill, but is trying to point out that they can be an necessary evil. Read his fucking posts. ::)
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Blasted on December 06, 2009, 01:28:07 PM
He already knows guns kill, but is trying to point out that they can be an necessary evil. Read his fucking posts. ::)

I am reading, fatty  ::)

You seem to be following the wrong argument here.  What we're talking about is that guns are not evil but people are.  Dunno what you're on about personally  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 06, 2009, 01:45:29 PM
Guns are not evil on their own. The intention behind using it can be "evil". :zoinks:

But if you live in a rough area, you'd need guns to protect yourself... otherwise you'll be fucked over sideways.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Al Swearegen on December 06, 2009, 03:04:23 PM
Guns are not evil on their own. The intention behind using it can be "evil". :zoinks:

But if you live in a rough area, you'd need guns to protect yourself... otherwise you'll be fucked over sideways.

Very true. I think it is sad that Lit POV seems more rational than Bint's.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Adam on December 06, 2009, 03:24:25 PM
are you obsessed with her or something?

why do you keep following her around on here? ???
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: normal_impaired on December 06, 2009, 04:19:13 PM
What about BB guns, they're not designed to kill anything, nor really can they kill anything bigger than a squrrel when used as designed, but point blank in the eye and into the brain could still kill a human, so does that make them bad?

What would you rather, be shot, or be pickaxed?

...not to mention such attacks are also probably less likely to be fatal...

I don't quite understand your logic, you're saying that a 1 foot long 3 inch wide pointed metal shaft being driven into your chest cavity would be less likely to be fatal than a 1/4" chunk of lead?
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: 'andersom' on December 06, 2009, 05:22:50 PM
Guns suck.

Guns don't suck, they're really nothing more than toy or a tool that can be used recreationally or as a tool to provide food and protection. Confrontational assholes who have to hide behind a gun to prove themselves suck tremendously.

They do.  They are built to kill.

Yes, they are. And cars are made to transport people. And here in Sweden about 500 people are killed by cars every year and 10-20 people are killed in gun crimes, most of them by illegal guns. So...are the guns bad or the people who are using them? The cars or the people who are using them?
I would like to see the ratio of hours that guns are used, and the hours that cars are used in total. And then compare the mortality range.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 06, 2009, 05:32:43 PM
People can intentionally kill others without weapons. :zoinks:
Exactly - martial arts are legal. I am learning to get around the lack of guns that way.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Alex179 on December 06, 2009, 08:06:25 PM
Killing people is awesome, so guns are awesome.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: matthe on December 07, 2009, 12:57:06 AM
"i keep a shotty in the shower in case you want to shoot me while im shitin'" -biggy smalls
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Blasted on December 07, 2009, 03:19:15 AM
Why don't ya all just shoot each other and be done with it  ::)
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Adam on December 07, 2009, 03:21:29 AM
If I had a loaded gun in my house I would probably have used it on someone by now

It would take me a while to get hold of a gun around here though, and in that time I usually calm down :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Alex179 on December 07, 2009, 09:09:40 PM
Why don't ya all just shoot each other and be done with it  ::)
Too many people, not enough time.   That and those damn consequences.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Scrapheap on December 07, 2009, 09:14:55 PM
Why don't ya all just shoot each other and be done with it  ::)
Too many people, not enough time.   That and those damn consequences.

Better yet, Binty and Soph could have a pistol duel at 5 feet.  ::) :laugh: :LOL:
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Alex179 on December 07, 2009, 09:15:36 PM
Why don't ya all just shoot each other and be done with it  ::)
Too many people, not enough time.   That and those damn consequences.

Better yet, Binty and Soph could have a pistol duel at 5 feet.  ::) :laugh: :LOL:
Shotgun duel at 3 feet.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Scrapheap on December 07, 2009, 09:17:19 PM
Why don't ya all just shoot each other and be done with it  ::)
Too many people, not enough time.   That and those damn consequences.

Better yet, Binty and Soph could have a pistol duel at 5 feet.  ::) :laugh: :LOL:
Shotgun duel at 3 feet.

 :lol:

Blunderbuss's at 6 inches!!! :rofl:
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: normal_impaired on December 07, 2009, 09:33:54 PM
"i keep a shotty in the shower in case you want to shoot me while im shitin'" -biggy smalls

Thanks Biggy, now I know that if you're taking a shit, and I'm closer to your shower, you ain't got a chance.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 10, 2009, 04:05:02 PM
Funny, I thought guns were designed to throw a chunk of lead down a long tube in as straight a line as possible, but what could I know, I only have a degree in the subject...
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 10, 2009, 05:03:57 PM
I don't really get why some people are blindly against them. Sure in the wrong hands they can do harm, but in today's world especially in the dangerous areas, it's essential that you have one for self-protection. If bint lived in such a dangerous area without a gun, she will more likely be burgled at gunpoint, raped and either beaten or shot dead. She would be completely defenseless and basically handing them everything on a silver plate.

If where I am was more dangerous and guns were legalised, I'd get one without a 2nd thought. Thankfuly gun crime in Ireland is uncommon and where I am is fairly quiet, so I have no need of them at this very moment.

Ban conventional weapons and humans will just find more inventive and possibly more destructive ways to kill one another. No guns? Use knives! No knives? Use planks of wook with nails! No planks of wood with nails? Grind their faces down with a handheld sander! You can't take that violent streak from us. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: 'andersom' on December 10, 2009, 05:35:40 PM
Me, I'd rather not get killed at all thank you very much  :zoinks:  Just to humour you though, using a pickaxe or a knife introduces a personal element that a lot of people wouldn't be willing to deal with, not to mention such attacks are also probably less likely to be fatal.  It's easier to be detached and make a hasty decision with a gun while knives and such are messy.  Not to mention axes and knives do have other intended uses.  Guns don't.  Which brings me back to my main point.

You've got something there Bint.

The farther the distance from the one aimed for, the less it looks like killing, and the more it looks like a computer game. Playing 'god' with real lives. that don't look real.
I don't know how effective a gun, pistol or revolver will be in a fight in a busy environment, or when threatened in a crowd. You can't do the distant thing in a crowd, and aiming for the right person is hard then.

On the other hand, when really going beserk, I don't think there is a personal element in stabbing someone with a knife either. It's just blind furious rage then. And a bystander can be hurt easily too then.

I'm not favouring guns. I do find gun statistics intriguing though. What does it say, when percentage of gun owning in Canada is not that much lower than in the US, but the percentage of gun casualties is a lot lower?

BTW. Heard today that the UK is the most violent nation in the world. Even beating South Africa. I was amazed.
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: SleepyDragon on December 12, 2009, 12:40:51 AM
"i keep a shotty in the shower in case you want to shoot me while im shittin'" -biggy smells

Fixed


... And yes, I am puerile sometimes. :P
Title: Re: Only in America..
Post by: TheoK on January 09, 2010, 06:35:25 AM
Why don't ya all just shoot each other and be done with it  ::)
Too many people, not enough time.   That and those damn consequences.

Yup, those cowardly laws. In the Viking days killing people was perfectly legal. Instead of courts we had blood feud. And every free man kept a sword, of course! :arrr: