Would the "nazis" have killed us Aspies?

[IlluSionS667]

After WW2, most Germans who weren't killed either took distance from national-socialism because of the war or because of the "denazification" enforced on them by the occupying allies. Ever since then, even convinced national-socialists rarely speak out as national-socialists because their risk social suicide. Hence, we can't judge whether a person truely was a national-socialist or not based on statements made after the war in an atmosphere where national-socialists are censored and marginalised by all means. Even Albert Speer (hardly a bystander) explicitly took distance from Hitler to get the lightest possible sentence.

The way I see it, Asperger just wanted to make sure these people were trained to lead a "normal" life : a happy life as working men and women with a family.... rather than wasting their time in institutions or ending up in criminal environments... and the arguments he used for this were precisely the arguments a convinced national-socialist would use.

I believe his daughter disagrees with your interpretation.

[Alex179]

They would be a liability and something to be cleaned out of the gene pool probably in the eyes of the Nazis.   If a person isn't useful (serving the ultimate purpose), there is no reason to not put them out of their misery.   I would think they were seen as a leech upon the rest of society, worthless.   Basically a dead and worthless branch that needed to be pruned.   That is how I think the Nazis viewed the disabled, or most likely how they did.   

Nazi Germany is gone, so what's changed?

Not much.   Disabled people can get money from the government, instead of being killed off.   I guess that is it.

[odeon]

After WW2, most Germans who weren't killed either took distance from national-socialism because of the war or because of the "denazification" enforced on them by the occupying allies. Ever since then, even convinced national-socialists rarely speak out as national-socialists because their risk social suicide. Hence, we can't judge whether a person truely was a national-socialist or not based on statements made after the war in an atmosphere where national-socialists are censored and marginalised by all means. Even Albert Speer (hardly a bystander) explicitly took distance from Hitler to get the lightest possible sentence.

In other words, they are all lying unless they agree with your views.

[IlluSionS667]

In other words, the only way to find out whether someone was a national-socialist during the war is to analyse their activities, statements or publications from during the war... and even that doesn't prove anything, since some may have posed as national-socialists.

Again, you distort my words.

After WW2, most Germans who weren't killed either took distance from national-socialism because of the war or because of the "denazification" enforced on them by the occupying allies. Ever since then, even convinced national-socialists rarely speak out as national-socialists because their risk social suicide. Hence, we can't judge whether a person truely was a national-socialist or not based on statements made after the war in an atmosphere where national-socialists are censored and marginalised by all means. Even Albert Speer (hardly a bystander) explicitly took distance from Hitler to get the lightest possible sentence.

In other words, they are all lying unless they agree with your views.

[thepeaguy]

They would be a liability and something to be cleaned out of the gene pool probably in the eyes of the Nazis.   If a person isn't useful (serving the ultimate purpose), there is no reason to not put them out of their misery.   I would think they were seen as a leech upon the rest of society, worthless.   Basically a dead and worthless branch that needed to be pruned.   That is how I think the Nazis viewed the disabled, or most likely how they did.   

Nazi Germany is gone, so what's changed?

Not much.   Disabled people can get money from the government, instead of being killed off.   I guess that is it.

I can!

[odeon]

In other words, the only way to find out whether someone was a national-socialist during the war is to analyse their activities, statements or publications from during the war... and even that doesn't prove anything, since some may have posed as national-socialists.

Again, you distort my words.

Dodging the issues much? 

[Parts]

In other words, the only way to find out whether someone was a national-socialist during the war is to analyse their activities, statements or publications from during the war... and even that doesn't prove anything, since some may have posed as national-socialists.

Again, you distort my words.

Dodging the issues much? 

How about Kurt Josef Waldheim or the pope who was in the Nazi youth they were truly dedicated huh

[The_Chosen_One]

Delusionist still wants to rabbit on with this bullshit, even though Callway and others have laughed off his arguments as fabricated hyperbole and propaganida. Point of fact, Delusionist - if it walks like a nazi, and quacks like a nazi, then it is obviously a nazi. And as for nazi quacks, take note of my avvie, becuase this little black don't take kindly to that shit.

So Delusionist, cut the 'porkies' and quit 'foghorning' your shit at everyone.

The-the-the-the-that's all, folks.

[Lucifer]

i think we need some foghorn leghorn input here, don't you?

 

[The_Chosen_One]

Ah say, boy, I thank she's raaght!

Mah corn hurts, I thank it's about to rain......

[Lucifer]

Ah say, boy, I thank she's raaght!

Mah corn hurts, I thank it's about to rain......

yay!  although i was thinking more along the lines of:

"if that boy don't stop talkin' soon enough, he'll get his tongue sunburned."

[vodz]

Ah say, boy, I thank she's raaght!

Mah corn hurts, I thank it's about to rain......

yay!  although i was thinking more along the lines of:

"if that boy don't stop talkin' soon enough, he'll get his tongue sunburned."

Don't encourage him.

[Lucifer]

Ah say, boy, I thank she's raaght!

Mah corn hurts, I thank it's about to rain......

yay!  although i was thinking more along the lines of:

"if that boy don't stop talkin' soon enough, he'll get his tongue sunburned."

Don't encourage him.

huh?  i suggested foghorn leghorn, dur.

[The_Chosen_One]

Ah say, boy, I thank she's raaght!

Mah corn hurts, I thank it's about to rain......

yay!  although i was thinking more along the lines of:

"if that boy don't stop talkin' soon enough, he'll get his tongue sunburned."

Don't encourage him.

huh?  i suggested foghorn leghorn, dur.

Maybe Vodzy is a fan of the chicken hawk.

[punkdrew]

Ah say, boy, I thank she's raaght!

Mah corn hurts, I thank it's about to rain......

yay!  although i was thinking more along the lines of:

"if that boy don't stop talkin' soon enough, he'll get his tongue sunburned."

Don't encourage him.

huh?  i suggested foghorn leghorn, dur.

Maybe Vodzy is a fan of the chicken hawk.

Son, AH SAY SON, come ovah heah!

Nice boy, but he don't know his ass from a hole in the ground.